Picanta
Quote: _Milana_

Assembling a cake with a heart inside

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This is an interesting idea for creating an original cut in a wedding cake or gift for Valentine's Day.
Girls, has anyone tried to do this? I want to take
Vitalinka
Quote: Picanta

Girls, has anyone tried to do this? I want to take
Natasha did, look
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=164930.0
Mama RoMashek
I did too
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It's a little clumsy, but it's a matter of practice, I did it for the first time, without rehearsal, still practice on cats homemade cakes before taking out.

Vitalinka, Natasha is a little different.
Picanta
Thank you, Nina, Vitalinka!
Yes, it is probably difficult to achieve clarity. And something very red did not work out? probably didn't want to pour a lot of paint?
Mama RoMashek
Picanta, I am Natasha
There was no dye at all, it was a raspberry soufflé, the cake was a wedding cake, it was the upper tier of the newlyweds, the bride was in position, and I was for natural!
Picanta
Natasha, I looked and realized that there were only berries. But that's exactly what I want. Red. Here I sit, I think, what would be there. berries on any such will not be. maybe jelly? or still a red biscuit. Red velvet is baked. or a rainbow. I don't understand this dance at all.
Mama RoMashek
Lilya, you can try jelly, but if you really want to be completely red, you still can't do without dye, I think.
Husky
The post with a question about flowers was moved to ambulance
Victoria
Tell me how to assemble such a cake? Initially, bake a rectangular cake, and then cut it off? What are the best cakes to use, which cream? Vanilla boiled water with yoghurt cream will do? Photo taken from u- Assembling cakes
Alevtina
Girls, tell me how to collect a cake in the form of a fungus? Like a bunk.

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Here's a cake.
Irina Dolars
Alevtina, you can see it here. It is assembled according to the same principle: with an intermediate substrate and on skewers (or tubes)

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=223&topic=299100.0

Girls, don't forget to check the first page of the topic. There is a large list of frequently asked questions and links to answers.
Alevtina
Thanks for the link, I have already read it before ... in the mushroom the diameter of the bottom of the cap is greater than the diameter of the mushroom stem ... so I thought about assembling it like a two-tier one, with skewers and a substrate between the leg and the cap, will that be enough? .. .or something special you need to come up with?
chiran-n
You don't need to invent anything. A reliable substrate so that it does not bend and that's it.
Matanya
Girls, advice is urgently needed !!!! I am still with the same nuts in butter cream ..... my upper tier is dripping, I wrapped it up, I did not put it on the lower one, I took it out now ... but it flows !!! I turned it upside down, smeared it with potatoes, so I think if I add some thread to the blotch on top, will it stand it? Or will it creep to a hair dryer?

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Quote: Husky

Tanya, the fact that she smeared the bottom with potatoes is good, it will absorb moisture. Only it would be nice to make it cooler. So that it contains more crumbs than cream. And it would be nice to walk from below on top of the potatoes. Or ganache or butter + chocolate.
ABOUT! I did so! Here he is
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=283258.0
True, the bottom slightly crawled, and it turned out not a cylinder, but a trapezoid, but the situation was saved
VictoriaCam
I probably don't understand something about the brake. The cake is going on a substrate (for example, homemade), the diameter of which is less than the diameter of the cake (I met it somewhere so that it was convenient to work). So here then, with the same substrate, it is placed on a beautiful, larger diameter? Or is it removed from the little one? So if you rearrange, then a soft cake (like my honey cake) will spread nafig. Freeze or something?
But what if the composition is going to be? Well, for example, several cakes, a carriage and a barbie, a ball and a football field separately. Is a large substrate of the right size made and cakes are placed directly on it, without additional details?
Something I have * small porridge * in my head on this issue.

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Quote: Matanya

No, Vika, you are not a brake
I always collect immediately on the main substrate, I just put parchment on the open areas, and then carefully remove. And when I work with laminated substrates, then nothing nothing do not close, then wipe them with a paper napkin and that's it
For the second tier, I make the substrate slightly smaller than the cake itself, so that later it does not look out. In general, I saw Mk somewhere how the cake was shifted, but it must have been frozen. And, by the way, yesterday I turned my second tier myself, I wrote above, but it was out of the refrigerator and covered with mastic, under which potatoes and ganache, so I endured it, did not fall apart, although it dripped due to a large amount of impregnation ...

Quote: Ilona

For me, this question also remained not fully resolved. I figured it out with the lower tier - I also do it right away on a fine, large substrate. But with the upper headache ... Just today, the appearance of the cake suffered and I had to cover everything with beads. I collected the 2nd and 3rd tiers on substrates, then sat on the edge with the cake, tormented, cut off with a knife. But! But during the transfer, the edges lifted up a little and seemed to wrinkle, although it had been tightened long before. And here's how to be? What if ribbons and beads are out of my topic? How to make sure that nothing is hurt? It was impossible to take the cake by the sides, there were icing threads, but the cake could have been completely creamy, how to pick it up then for carrying?

Quote: oksa851

need help from the side and a pair of blades, preferably narrow and long. And then take it with your shoulder blades from both sides and hold it with your hand. Well, something like this

Quote: Parallel

Ilona, ​​can you apply icing after assembling a multi-tiered cake? Well, that is, first to assemble a structure from covered tiers, and only then to decorate it? then you can take it by the side. and I collect the second tiers on a large substrate laminated on both sides (there are no small ones yet), and then when I align it under the mastic, I hold the cake on the substrate on my left hand, and cut off the excess edges of the substrate with scissors, then wrap it with mastic and put it on top. maybe it’s wrong, but so far I’ve gotten used to it) if you teach me how to do it right, I will be grateful)

Quote: Ilona

No, it was impossible, I had reverse arcs, I applied them to each inverted tier in advance, and only then, when I collected the whole cake, I began to hang the rest of the threads. Turning the whole cake over is not realistic, so hang back arcs only one tier at a time))). But the question is not about arcs, but about the transfer of tiers without creases in the lower edges. For example, I have no one to help, I have to do it myself. Can Luda tell us? I, too, as a Lady with @, collect on a small-diameter submarine, which I put not on the rough one, but right on the board for rigidity, so that nothing would bend or deform. But here's the problem for me to move (((((. Especially a large tier, which could not be frozen for rigidity (due to the same icing).

Quote: Matanya

And I thought so .... We designed the lower tier, put the second one, we did it on the first

And if you cut the backing immediately?

Quote: Lady with @

I immediately put the second or third tiers on a double-sided substrate, which I cut to the size of the baked biscuit, put it on a larger draft substrate and start assembling the tier.
When the tier is coated on the sides with cream, potatoes, it becomes a little larger in diameter than the substrate under it, but it can be safely rearranged behind the rough substrate.
Before tightening the tier with a long, sharp, narrow knife, I walk along the bottom of the tier (I cut the frozen cream to the draft).
After tightening the tier, I put the same narrow knife under the tier, under the substrate on which it stands, but only so as to slightly raise and bring the blade under it, or even two, with which I will rearrange this tier to the lower one.
I insert the tubes into the lower tier, apply cream on them and put the tier.
My draft and put away until next time.
All the decoration of the cake, including the borders, I do on the assembled cake.
I don't know if I wrote it clearly, but if you have any questions, I will answer.

I would, on the contrary, take a wide spatula (again, if the cake is dense, you can also have a narrow one), as soon as part of the cake was picked up and he * sat * on the spatula, I took the second part in my hand. BUT! This is if I am sure of the density of the cake. I was taking a dairy girl to visit today. So I had to cut into cakes, I was very saturated, I did not know how to shift ...
About a substrate of a smaller diameter, it means that it was said about multi-tiered cakes, for sure, I forgot
So, but still, if I put 2 cakes on one large substrate, then remove those on which I collected? Or glue it to a decorated stand with chocolate?

Quote: Matanya

I would stick

Quote: Lady with @

Two cakes on one substrate side by side or one tier on top of the other?
If I have a single-tier cake, then I collect it on a rough substrate, the cake is soaked, cooled, then I cut it from below and with the help of 1 or 2 scoops I rearrange it on a finishing substrate, the middle of which is a little smeared with cream (any ... internal or external, which is under mastic, if only the chilled cake does not slide on the substrate).
It once happened that I covered the tubes inserted into the lower tier with chocolate, the chocolate began to set quickly from the chilled cake, as a result, the adhesion between the tiers was not very good ... or rather, it was not at all, the laminated substrate of the upper tier slipped over frozen chocolate. Since then, I have only used cream for these purposes.

I put 2 cakes next to me. Today, it is a doll and a carriage. Maybe in the end there will be one cake, but so far, so I'm thinking over the composition in my head.
I'm no longer clever for mine. Judging by the selection, then the cake C rough is rearranged to a clean one. Only now I was embarrassed by the phrase * then cut from below *. What exactly, cake, backing? If the substrate, then why, you remove it from it?
So, now a question about the substrate itself. I went to a special topic.

Quote: Lady with @

I wrote a little higher ... Well, I cannot smear the sides of the cake so as not to smear the substrate ...
And I had a sad experience when I slipped a narrow spatula under the cake, began to lift the cake, but unevenly, and the cream that grabbed the substrate pulled the cream from the side, breaking off such a good piece ... I had to level the side again ...
Since then, I have always walked around the entire diameter with a sharp knife, so that the bottom of the cake before coating with mastic was even and I did not have to camouflage the dents ...
It doesn't matter if this is the bottom tier and there is NO double-sided substrate under it, or it is the upper tier and there is a double-sided substrate under it. In both cases, I do everything the same way - I always cut the bottom of the cake evenly from the rough substrate.

geisika
I want to ask about this cake
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There are some numbers, proportions. I have a cake with a diameter of 20 cm. Height 9 cm. Can I make such a shape with such dimensions?

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Quote: Irina Dolars

Why not? The main thing is to observe the proportions. So that this "slice" is not too large.
It can be seen that it is less than half. I would cut it out of paper and attach it.

As I understand it, this "droplet" red should be symmetrical?

Quote: Irina Dolars

Olya, of course, is symmetrical.
Like this:

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Only the edges are sharp in the resulting oval. Well, there should not be an oval, but a sector.
Vei
Girls, please tell me where we have information about how to pack soufflé under mastic and in general, if the cake contains souffle or custard cream, how do we end up making a cake with mastic?

ANSWER

Quote: Husky

Vei, Lisa we prepare the cake as usual. We plaster, apply cream or ganache. Mastic is laid on top. Instead of plaster, you can use a thin layer of biscuit on the side of the cake.

Husky,
Lyudochka, I have a chocolate sponge cake with thick enough layers of souffle cream. Do I need to additionally bake a chocolate sponge cake for plastering (I have frozen IC) and for biscuit strips along the board? How to cut and lay these flat?

Quote: VictoriaKam

Vei, defrost the biscuit, cut the strips of the desired length, the height of the strip is equal to the height of the cake, "glue" on the cream, which is, butter + condensed milk, butter + chocolate. Grab a little in the refrigerator and level it further. And you think the soufflé is too soft, do you think "potatoes" won't hold?
Yes, and the biscuit is not necessarily a chocolate baked, add cocoa to the crumb and that's it, since you need a chocolate taste.

Quote: Vilapo

Vei, look, this is how I pack the milk girl with a biscuit under the cream. Assembling cakes
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Quote: Per4ik

I make soufflé all the time. The height of the soufflé layer is about 2-2.5 cm, or even 3 cm. And I do not use crumbs and even more so a biscuit. I make cream butter + chocolate. It's too soft at first. I coat the cake with a thin layer. In the refrigerator. After a couple of hours, the cream under the mastic becomes the desired consistency. And then I apply it to the cake in a normal layer so that it can be aligned well.

Per4ik,
In the sense of a ganache dubbing without plaster?
What are the proportions of butter and chocolate?

Quote: Per4ik

Yes. Beat butter, melt chocolate and cool. Then I whisk together. At first, the cream is still ooooooooooo soft. I apply a thin layer to them. And in the refrigerator. Then I apply the main layer. butter: chocolate - 1: 1 or 1: 1.5.
thrill
Girls, ah Are cakes big when they are taken for 100 km they are put on their knees and held with their hands? Or is it somehow installed in the car?

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Quote: Ilona

It is better to install in a more reliable way so that the box does not walk around the cabin. and did not lurch.
Ilona, ​​thanks
oksa851
help with advice. How to assemble a biscuit cake + a souffle layer of the "open book" type if I do not have a rectangular split shape? I will bake a biscuit in a box, and then what? Cut the bottom of the box and wrap it in plastic? Who had the experience?

ANSWER

Quote: Irina Dolars

In the topic "Cake assembly" the girls described how to make a box with a film and lay a biscuit with a filling.

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=52123.0
Or on this MK:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=309476.0

Or you can build a "box" from the biscuit itself:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=302514.0

everything is clear about styling. How to get it? You can't turn a book over! Cut what? And if there is no bottom in the box, the cream will leak out?
Liza 16
Girls hello everyone! I searched the Internet and found a very interesting cake. This is a cake from a series of courses by Nadezhda Karmantseva on vertical cakes, but it is not entirely vertical, but lies on its side. I broke my whole head, I can’t sleep, maybe you can tell me how to assemble such a miracle, otherwise I really wanted to do one for my sister’s first wedding anniversary, while there’s time to practice.

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Quote: Irina Dolars

Liza, can try to do this? MK already exists
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=302417.0
Or collect in the form of a ball and insert a bunch of mastic stems from the side.
VictoriaCam
Girls, ah when assembling multi-tiered cakes, is it enough for the lower tiers to just soak well and shrink, or is it basically necessary to be kept in the cold? Now in another topic I read "and the tiers are not" strong enough "in the cold, so the lower one sat down" - I was embarrassed, thinking ...

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Quote: Irina Dolars

The lower tier needs to be defended the longest. I start to coat the cakes with him
And the night in the fridge. Even in the morning I measured his "growth". Perceptible shrinkage.

Irina,
And at room temperature, on average, how long do you let the cake stand?
Quote: Irina Dolars

Victoria, the cake in the fridge is worth the night. And at room only at the time of decoration.
Anna 80
Girls, tell me, please.
Who made a four-tiered cake weighing about 10 kg. ?
What diameter of the lower tier should be if the fourth tier is 12 cm without mastic alignment? Well, the diameter of the second tier and the third. The first tier is vanilla sponge cake on boiling water, mousse cream and fruits, the second is black forest, respectively, the third is again vanilla, the fourth is black forest.

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Quote: Irina Dolars

Here you can see the ratios of the tiers:

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Thanks tremendous, tremendous.
oksanapolisuk
And what kind of substrates do you mean: golden cardboard, or are there others?
Is there a link where you can buy? It is for the layer in the cakes.
Quote: Lady with @

oksanapolisuk, here in Kazan there is an online store selling substrates 🔗
Only they don't write, double-sided or single-sided. A double-sided substrate is placed between the tiers.
Quote: chiran-n

I put a laminated one-sided substrate between the tiers, I just wrap it with food-grade film
Victoria
Girls, tell me! I have bunk cake covered with mastic. Question: When assembling, stick the sticks into the finished one covered with mastic or first sticks, and then cover them with mastic?

ANSWER

Quote: N @ T @

Into the finished covered cake.

Thank you.
Hee hee
Girls-craftswomen, hello everyone! Your advice is very necessary. I need to make a 3D cake in the form of a chair ... I can imagine how to make the lower part, but I can't put my back into it ... I found MK on the Internet

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but there the cake itself is cut out of, so to speak, a cupcake, that is, there are no layers, cream ... So I have doubts that if the back is made of cakes with cream, then it's not clear how it will behave ...Maybe put a waffle cake for the base?
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Quote: Irina Dolars

And what is the thickness of the back? Can you strengthen with skewers?
Or waffles in chocolate and skewers, or make a support for the back from a cereal with marshmallows and chocolate? And cover with a biscuit.
Strong construction should turn out

Irina, thanks for the advice! Eh, wafer cakes disappeared from store shelves according to the law of meanness ... I only strengthened them with skewers - I hope the structure will withstand ...
Ma-ri
Girls, help me, PLIZ. I'm a newbie.
The first time you ordered a wedding cake for 8 kg, is it necessary 3 tiers or is it possible 2? (the customer asked for 2)
I thought to make it 32 and 20 cm in diameter, and 12 centimeters in height, I don't know if I will reach 8 kg, how to calculate it correctly?
And yet, if I take it in a collapsible form and collect it in a cafe, do I still need to strengthen it with chopsticks? And which composition is best for the lower tiers. I was thinking about making a bottom-chocolate sponge cake with whipped cream and cherries, or a honey cake with thick butter and butter. cream, and the top type of Prague is something. The customers said the filling of your choice, it will be a surprise for them. And the main thing for me is that an emergency does not happen, in the form of a failed cake ...
Quote: Irina Dolars
Marina, this is a very large weight for two tiers. I would recommend dividing by three
But in any case, strengthen with skewers and pierce through the center, driving deeper into the substrate.

There is also a topic for calculating products. Can it be useful to you?
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=171092.0

Quote: MaDaMa

Ma-ri, recently did, exactly 8 kg: 25-20-15, height 10 cm.
Thanks for answers!
And tell me which composition is better for the lower tier, and most importantly the cream?
I wanted a honey cake, with butter-boiled condensed milk cream, but according to my recipe it turns out to be very soft, porous and airy, I would even call it a honey biscuit ... Just how many other people's honey cake tasted, there are dry thin cakes ...
Lench1k
Quote: Master

It seems that we do not have a topic about forms for baking cakes, so I am exhibiting here my "invention", which, for sure, many have reached themselves. But again, if there are still those who are next to me in the tank, this is for you.

More than once I came across the fact that I do not have a rectangular-square shape, the right size. I got out of this situation in two ways. Either I counted a larger portion by eye, so that later I could cut out the necessary shape, or I folded a shape out of paper, but its edges were falling apart all the time and therefore, again, I had to make a larger portion. And just recently the thought occurred to me that for this paper form of mine, I need to make a frame. solid cardboard form. My joy knew no bounds. now I will have shapes of the sizes I need. And maybe someone else will come in handy
The question is, I will need to assemble a rectangular cake, I want to make a humidor for cigars, I want to make a cake like bird's milk (I already made it with mastic), but I don't have the required shape ...I saw a hint, but I have been suffering for two days and I cannot open pictures from any device, but there is no description.
I realized what can be done from cardboard, but which cardboard should I take?
As I understand it, ordinary, brown, without inscriptions, like from under boxes for sweets in the Metro (I read that Huska makes substrates from them), can it also work?
And then what do you need to wrap this cardboard with foil or baking paper?
Very upset that the photos do not open thanks, huge, in advance for the answer !!!!
Quote: Mom Tanya

Lench1k, I did this:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=52123.0

If you use a furniture stapler (or sew with threads, just do not glue it, otherwise the glue in the oven will not stand ...))))) then bake right in them !!!

And before the page too:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=52123.280
Mom Tanya, thank you very much, now everything is super !!!!! I'll fix it with a stapler, I'll probably wrap it in foil after all (otherwise it's not known in which warehouses the boxes were) and I will use it))))))) tomorrow I'm going to the Metro for boxes))))))) Thanks again !! !
Husky
Assembling a large diameter cake.

We bake your favorite cakes according to your favorite recipe. Only you need to bake not one cake as usual, but as many as 4!
Then we cut our cakes into 3-4 layers (as we usually do). "Collect" the layers of each cake in a pile, returning the previous appearance of our biscuits (as it was before cutting into layers). Here we have again 4 cakes.
Now we do the following:
1 cake - put aside;
2 and 3 cakes are cut into "quarters";
4 cut the cake into "eights", rounding off in the wider part.

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Well, now we "collect" our cake in layers from our 4 layers (and there will be as many layers as you cut each cake). We start with the first layer. We collect on a large dish according to the scheme

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Liza 16
Pretty little girls poke your nose)))) I need to know everything about assembling and decorating mini-cakes
Quote: Husky

Liza, what interests you about mini cakes? How are they different from ordinary ones? In my opinion, they are collected in the same way as regular cakes. Just fiddle with them more, since there are many of them and they are small.

Je do not remember such that on our forum they said something specifically about mini cakes. And for someone to write on the peculiarities of assembling mini cakes.
MaDaMa
Husky, Lud, yes, I did it myself. I did it once and decided that it was enough, I won’t be more, it’s not worth it (((

Py. Sy. Liza and I have the same avatars, at first I did not move in, I think I didn’t seem to ask anything, but the question was on my behalf)))))))))))))))))
Husky
Quote: MaDaMa
Py. Sy. Liza and I have the same avatars, at first I did not move in, I think I didn’t seem to ask anything, but the question was on my behalf)))))))))))))))))


Oh, got caught !! And I didn’t notice that I answer to different people !!
miss_ka
Dear ladies, help with wise advice! The first three-tiered cake is coming. I read the whole topic on assembling cakes - I noted skewers with submarines for myself (although somewhere in the bins of memory this method is stored). Actually, the question is this: more than once in the topic I saw the statement that if you use the "skewer-substrate" system, then it does not matter which tiers (in the sense of soft or denser)? The customer wants a sponge cake with cream in all tiers and the upper tier with a diameter of 26 !! I'm afraid that under the weight of the upper tiers, the bottom will end ((
Parallel
wow, the upper one with a diameter of 26 ... what is the lower one - 46? such a refrigerator will probably not fit, and baking it is probably very problematic ... and any composition can be made with tube substrates. I can make bird's milk with such a system downwards, and any heavy cake on top. The weight of the upper tier with such a system does not put pressure on the lower one, but is evenly distributed on the skewers / tubes
allysya
Good afternoon girls! First time wedding order for 8-10kg (weight not yet determined). They do not want to use a stand, make it hollow inside, but they do not want a stand there (mk Luda Husk) either.3-storey cake, mastic. What to do ?, advise. I'm afraid the cocktail tubes won't stand... I saw it. videos that insert more massive specials inside.mounts that are attached to the stands for small plates and pierce specials from above to the bottom. core, but where to get this ??? Climbed Ukrainian online stores nowhere else. Girls, can you tell me what, or who and where bought these adaptations, or who did it himself (mk) Thank you !!!

ANSWER

Quote: Irina Dolars

allysya, take a plate for the experiment and press on one or three cocktail tubes put together (stick them in a loaf of bread strictly vertically. Do not forget to apologize to the bread for breaking its integrity)
The tubing can carry a lot of weight and you have nothing to worry about. So many millions of cakes have already been made

Here I gave an assembly diagram with tubes:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=52123.0

Quote: Ksenyushka

allysya, hello. do not be afraid and do not panic!
I do not know how according to the rules of the forum, but hammer in a search engine in Google something like "how to assemble a wedding multi-tiered cake", right on the first page of the search there is a very clear and intelligible description with pictures. after such mk nothing is scary at all. there on the example of a 17-kg cake in general.
and on our forum there is such information.
and there is a video on the internet.
I have the biggest one, I was terribly afraid, but with the help of our girls, as well as dug up information myself, now I calmed down.

As for me, you don't have to soar your brain about the "hollowness" of the cake. I also plan to find tubes that are denser than cocktail ones, if I find them, I'll beckon you.

Quote: Irina Dolars

If you are afraid to use tubes, then you can buy wooden skewers. They come in different lengths and thicknesses.

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Quote: Husky

I strengthen the cocktail tubes:
- chopsticks for sushi

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-tubules of different diameters, inserting them one into the other
- I use cotton candy rolls. (left) They are very durable.
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Quote: Ksenyushka

Lyudmila, are cotton candy rolls sold in the same places, and cocktail tubes?

Quote: Husky

No. In Moscow, I know only one place where they are sold. This is a supermarket for a pastry chef on Sheremetyevskaya 85. VTK.
Although there may be more where they are sold.
I would suggest using the option with sushi chopsticks and cocktail tubes. Both that and another for certain are on sale with you.

Thank you very much for your advice!!! Morally not alone - very happy. So I'm looking for tubules for cotton wool, for shish kebab or sushi, which are the thickest. Now the hot season is the dacha, so now there in the evening. I'll chew on the info. Thanks again. Of course there will still be questions, so I promise to get bored.
Svetanova
artisan, Hello, tell me how you make a baking dish out of cardboard, otherwise not a single photo will open, ooooooo necessary !!!
ychilka
Quote: Svetanova

artisan, Hello, tell me how you make a baking dish out of cardboard, otherwise not a single photo will open, ooooooo necessary !!!
I'm not Oksana, but I'll tell you. We take an ordinary cardboard box (from under the cookies, for example), if initially its size does not suit us, we disassemble it at the seams, they are usually glued, and estimate what size we need it, resell the folds again, I do it with a blunt knife, and fasten it with a stapler or stitching with threads. The bead leaves 8-10 cm in height. Before baking, cover it with pargament so that it lies perfectly in the corners, crumple it and wet it with water, then melt and crush the droplets. The form is ready. The only thing is that at the first couple of baking times there will be a smell of burnt cardboard, then it will go away. Also, if the box is glued with tape, along the bottom, for example, I do not take it off, sometimes it does not even melt, it sometimes shrinks, but it doesn’t matter. I have several of these shapes, square and rectangular, the cardboard is not thick. Ali to make a round shape, the principle is the same. The bottom is cut out and the board is rectangular, the edge is cut out with teeth at the bottom, we put these teeth under the bottom of the mold and glue or stitch. Hope it helped.
Svetanova
ychilkaThank you !!!!!!!!! I will experiment))
Lench1k
Quote: Svetanova

artisan, Hello, tell me how you make a baking dish out of cardboard, otherwise not a single photo will open, ooooooo necessary !!!
Svetanova, look at the previous page in this thread, I just there also asked a question about forms and MamaTanya gave me links, it helped me a lot! As a result, I took the boxes, made a cut and inserted the sides there and fastened everything with an ordinary stapler (despite the fact that I have it tiny, pocket, not even a desktop one), then I wrapped everything in foil and several times calmly baked cakes in this form))))
mamontenok
girls, please share what you make a big pin for tiered cakes. There is a wedding cake in 3 tiers, they will be taken 25 km away along a terrible road. I'm afraid not to fall apart
Irina Dolars
Sveta, look just above the post with the answers. Hope this helps you
In any case, they must drive very carefully, without haste.
mamontenok
Irina, thank you
lianochka2011
: bye: Good day! I am new to this business and of course for the first time I am very worried that suddenly something does not work out. There are many questions, but I will be asking gradually so as not to get confused. I hope for your support. I was ordered a wedding cake for 8 kg, but I don't know how best to make 3 or 4 tiers? And what diameters of forms are best for them. I will be very glad for any information. And yet such an important point, transportation, carrying into the car, how best to do it. I will not go to the restaurant, the cake should be taken from me and therefore I am worried that they will carry it to the restaurant from the car safe and sound, because it is heavy! And how to pack it or not?
ZeZe
Quote: mamontenok
girls, please share what you make a big pin for tiered cakes. There is a wedding cake in 3 tiers, they will be taken 25 km away along a terrible road. I'm afraid not to fall apart
Sveta, hello ... I just recently did a wedding in 3 tiers 11kg ... for reliability, they made a pin in the middle of a bamboo stick (they bought it in a garden store, it is long m1.5 in length, but it costs a penny), wrapped it tightly with cling film ... we carried the cake ourselves in the trunk, somewhere about 20 km from us .. drove slowly and especially carefully around the bends ... drove perfectly !!! although our roads are not so terrible ... but there is also ... the cake shook terribly all the way, I was really worried ... so it's better to go slower ..
Irina Dolars
Alyona, you can do both three and four tiers. It depends on the design and weight of the tiers themselves. They will be small and tall or large in diameter and low in height.
In any case, read the table of contents and follow the links.
In large cakes, it is always advised to use tubes (or sticks) for strength of the substrate, and always a strong rod in the center, which is partially driven into the strong substrate.
You need to carry such a cake at low speed, always on a flat HORIZONTAL surface. And where it shakes least.
You can do the calculation yourself using the tips in the topic: Confectionery secrets: counting together
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=171092.0
lianochka2011
Irina thank you very much for your answer. Cake want a sponge cake with cream and fruit. I did two tiers, it turns out 4 kg, shapes 25cm and 18.5cm, height 10 cm. I'm just at a loss as to how best 3 or 4 tiers will be and what sizes of shapes are ideal for them. I am familiar with the dupils, but I have not tried the central rod yet, I think this is not such a big problem. Most of all, it worries me to keep within the given weight of 8 kg. Another question: for such a large weight, are laminated substrates suitable or can they be glued together in two or something else is needed? Probably, as for me, I think it will be more beautiful in 3 tiers, each tier is high! Class! How much height should you make?
Irina Dolars
Any height

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lianochka2011
Or it will be easier to make 4 tiers, not so high. I'm afraid that the bride will not work anywhere on the mastic when fitting. Could you tell me what sizes of forms are better to use for three and four tiers. And what thickness of polystyrene is better to take under the cake? I have so many questions
Irina Dolars
Substrate 3 cm thick at least (from expanded polystyrene)
Alyona, I suggest reading the topic:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=41080.0

And this one too:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=171092.0
lianochka2011
Thank you very much for the links! You helped me a lot for the coasters.
Thank you very much for your help!
But I think you can get confused with the calculations
Muska
Girls help calculate the diameters of the tiers for a 5-tier cake covered with mastic. The weight should be 10kg. What diameter should the bottom biscuit be?

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