Assembling cakes

and there are no forms of 40 cm in diameter

So we will correspond for a long time

Come on think
Maximum bottom cake diameter. How many cakes will be in the tier. What size is 2kg. such a cake. What volume will it have.
Use the volume of the cylinder. Use the online calculator to calculate it.

Thank you very much, I will think, I already thought such mathematics would not be useful to me. thanks again now everything is clear!

[how to stuff cocktail tubes into tiers, I usually did with kebab skewers, but here I'm afraid I can't stand it]

Girls who are on the site urgently need advice, the wedding cake came out 15 kg. costs separately in tiers, I will collect in a restaurant, how to stuff cocktail tubes into tiers, I usually did with kebab skewers, but here I'm afraid I can't stand it on tiers 5.5 4 2.8 1.8, each height 9.5 cm.

ANSWER

Tanya, put in a tube, mark the top, then pull it out a little and cut it off, I cut it half a millimeter below the mark

Tanya, you stick the tubes into the tiers, in them there are skewers in the height of the tiers, only measure the central one well where to stick it clearly in the center, I have the central skewer almost the entire height of the cake, inserted it into the lower tier and onto it before assembling '' dress '' put on the second and third tiers

The tubes are not crammed

I won't shove the central one, I haven't cut a hole in the backing! And without her in any way?

tania T, I generally do not use cocktail tubes, but tubes that are intended for binding balls, they are denser. I put skewers in them for a kebab, As a rule, there are two of them. I putty the ends with white chocolate or white glaze, very nice white sticks are obtained.

But if you change the substrate right now, to a substrate with a hole?

Does your husband have a screwdriver? Once we also forgot to make holes and then I held the cake and my husband drilled a hole, since there was a new drill of the right size.
It seems to me that you can do without it, because there you will collect the cake on the spot, it will not turn over there, I think

How many tubes do you need in the lower tier to hold 9 kg of weight?

Weight 5.5 kg of a soft soaked cake on the first level to shift and not turn it over, it is already assembled on a 5 cm polystyrene circle, now I will throw a photo.

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Here is my photo, from 2 longliners, then I insert skewers into the tubes

Tubes - target a row of tubules for each tier. Central rod - poke a hole through with a long knitting needle, if not, then poke holes with a knife (with a sharp tip) in the substrates.
DO NOT PANIC the calmer you are, the faster solutions come and the easier the problem.

Girls, thank you all so much for your help!
I was exhausted with this cake, I don't sleep at night, my first one is so big!

Well, here it is, so far disassembled.

pierce with skewers, and then shove the tubes. Don't panic! It seems to me that you do not need the central rod, you will collect on the spot

Tan, what is the diameter of the lower tier and the diameter of the second tier, above which?

Lower 33, followed by 27, 22, 15

For some reason, when lingering, the chocolate cakes decreased in diameter by 1 cm.

tania T, Tanya, well, on the lower tier, retreat 5 centimeters from the edge and stick in the tubes, for such a diameter, of course, you need not 5-6 pieces, but much more. Here on Olya's photo you can clearly see what is approximately enough distance between the tubes. And do not worry so, since you will be collecting on the spot, you do not need to take anywhere and they will eat pretty quickly after assembly, most likely they will not have time to sink anything

Girls, I bring everyone a huge thank you for your help !!!
I collected everything, gave it away and even calmed down.
Here's the result:

Photo from the restaurant, so I had to remove the background a little.

Thick cocktail tubes inserted 7 pcs. in the tier. I inserted skewers into them, everything is stable.
The customers brought the figurine, although I offered to dazzle it.
The total weight was planned to be 11 kg, but then I baked a test tier and agreed on 13 kg. A couple of extra pounds. I gave them, let them have a sweet life!

tania T, Tanya, smart girl! Such a smooth, neat, laconic cake, nothing more!

tania T, Tanya, the cake is excellent, from the category of "simple, but tasteful", so even

Good girl, did a great job :-)

Tatyana, Congratulations! Great! Exactly everything! WELL DONE!
Tan, and the ribbons are inedible?

[honey cake heart? Which is more convenient: cut from each cake at once or assemble the cake and then cut according to the template?]

Girls. who did honey cake heart? Which is more convenient: cut from each cake at once or assemble the cake and then cut according to the template?

ANSWER

Collect round in shape and then cut, IMHO

it is more convenient for me to make cakes in the shape of a heart - I cut off the bottom of a split-shaped heart. and then collect in the same detachable form.

valentine52, here it is also easier for me, especially from a honey cake, to immediately bake cakes in the shape of a heart. And what would be convex, voluminous, then the top two cakes are slightly smaller than the others. And all the cakes., It's easier for me to do than to cut out later. And so when the finished form is baked, it is better to touch up a little with a knife. Well, that's how it works for me. and heart, and button accordion, and dinosaur, he did everything according to this principle.

Bake Valentine in the shape of a heart, so it is more economical and convenient. I did this and that, and through experience I realized that it is better to bake right away and collect in the shape of a heart.

Girls... thanks for answers. But the point is. that I have no shape in the form of a heart. I think. what is better to do according to the Olya method. that is, collect round and cut according to the template.

valentine52, you can cut a template from parchment, a couple, and bake on it. What is superfluous, cut and trim. There will be a lot of scraps from the circle, although many will be happy with them))). Another argument in favor of the heart: during the assembly stage, you will know the weight and adjust it.

valentine52, you take white cardboard, draw a heart, cut it out, the template is ready. You cut and bake cakes on it. Collecting the cake. Why do you need a heart-shaped shape. I made a heart out of Napoleon's cakes, I think from any others, even more so:

[how to assemble a 3D cake in the form of a four]

prompt how to assemble a 3D cake in the form of a four

Girls, I don't know where to ask. If out of place, tell me where to go
Has anyone used such a thing? The impression interests.
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Olya, we had a discussion on this ring. Look HERE... Read the following messages, there is a discussion.

Girls, please, tell me about the assembly of the bunk bed. There will be a cream decoration, I chose a wet meringue, because I need a decorative plaster effect. True, my experience with this cream is only snow on the winter cake)))) but I think I can handle it. Here's what does not fit in my head: when I made two tiers with mastic, then I put the second tier on tubes on a substrate, and a spoonful of plaster under the substrate so that the floors would hold on to each other (although there was a homemade cake, everything was according to technology)))).
What about a wet meringue? Will it glue the tiers?
I have to carry the cake to the other end of the city
I've already broken my whole head ...

[Natalia]

Natalia, the protein has such a property - to glue.
Therefore, you can apply a protein cream under the second tier substrate.
In any case, the cake will need to be transported carefully over a long distance: without shaking, sharp braking, turns and strictly upright position.

a protein has such a property - to glue

Exactly! Here I felt that somewhere this should be the answer. But when the order shines, paranoia begins
Thank you!

Scrape the tiers with a central skewer - as if it will not go anywhere during transportation

Can you please tell me how to fix a two-tier mousse cake without packing either in mastic or in a biscuit? With mirror glaze. Is it real at all?

Tell me, please, when they write the diameter of the cake in the sizes - does this mean the size of the cakes or the final size - already covered with mastic?

[Olga_Z]

Olga_Z, and I have the same diameter of the cake layers and the diameter of the covered cake. When baking, the cakes shrink a little, and then I clamp it with a ring, they become a little smaller, but the alignment and mastic just add this volume

[Olga_Z]

Olga_Z, I usually indicate the size of the form in which the biscuit was baked. As

When baking, the cakes shrink a little, and then I clamp it with a ring, they become a little smaller, but the alignment and mastic just add this volume

I subscribe to all the words said.

[Natalia]

Natalia, Ludmila, Thank you!
And somehow it turns out that if the biscuit is baked in the form of 24, then when I level it with cream and cover it with mastic on a substrate with a diameter of 25, then the substrate is not visible. So she asked.
And what does "I clamp with a ring" mean?

And what does "I clamp with a ring" mean?

This is a split ring without a bottom for baking and assembling cakes. Collect the cake and clamp it with this ring. I put the cake in the refrigerator overnight.
In the morning I take off the ring, the cake is even.

Olya, Lyuba wrote everything correctly about the ring, I am wearing this

[Love]

Love, Natalia, thanks, understood

Sorry for the mistakes, I didn’t reread the message - but the auto-correction, it "corrected" me in the previous message.

[, where we had a video of how to cut a serpentine road from a cake]

Girls, where we had a video of how to cut a serpentine road from a cake... I climbed up everything, and did not find it, but I know exactly what happened. Help me find or in words can someone tell you how to do it.

ANSWER

Laris, here it is.

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In words, you cut the hill obliquely in a circle, and with a dexterous movement of your hand you lay it down as a continuation of the road. It seems that it does not work clearly in words. True, the photos in that MK are also such that you can't read it right away ... I hope it helps.

gattta, Natasha, I saw this MK, but it's really incomprehensible. On our HP, in some topic there was a link to another MK. I was sure that Lyuda (Husk) had Temko, but either I was blind or I was wrong with the topic.
Natasha, and you understand, according to this MK, how to cut. You cut off the edge in a spiral, and then where? put around the top tier? And if I have different compositions in tiers, what to do. Girls help me, I need to bake the cakes, but I don't understand what diameters to make.

Larissa, bump into Ilone she made a similar cake in a spiral Cake "The Way to Majority"

Larchik79Gulya Parallel did this, only cream, maybe she can tell you something

Larchik79

Girls, thank you very much !!!

Larissa, I also found it

Girls, I would be glad to suggest, but I don’t know how (((luckily for me, at the time of cutting this serpentine, my husband was at home. He has a spatial imagination, but I don't have any at all I looked at this three-tiered cake and master classes, and he just came up and cut me out in a couple of movements ... HOW did he do it? what I cut and applied where - I don’t know ... one thing is good that so far no one else has made such orders for serpentine)) the only thing I know for sure is that I didn’t bake all the tiers of the same diameter, but as usual I did three-tier with different diameters.

Something I am completely confused with this serpentine. I bake biscuits of the same diameter. Tomorrow I will try to cut a blank out of something, and then I will decide how to assemble it.

Gulya, when I did it, my husband directed my actions. I myself did not fully understand how to do it and why cut it this way and not another way.
I baked biscuits of different diameters, but I needed one.
Larissa, but I don't have a topic on how I made a cake? Or in the topic where I exhibited the cake. But where did I put it?
Here found a lot of letters in my post, where I exhibited this cake. True, there is little sense from that post. Nothing clever is written there.

Girls, please share where you bought a sliding ring for assembling a cake (otherwise it was not a successful purchase of the ring, the metal is very thin, it did not hold its shape)

otherwise it was not a successful purchase of the ring, the metal is very thin, it did not keep its shape)

I bought one at my Epicenter and it was made of thin metal, but it keeps its shape. The second was discharged from Nikolaev.
So the second is straight heavy, the metal is thicker.

The girls are craftsmen, and I'm wondering about the ring, how to bake in one? Well, so that the dough does not flow from the bottom? Indeed, in a split form there is a bottom, which is tightly clamped by the sides, and then I just put it on a baking sheet and that's it .. if I understand correctly how it's done ...

[I also bake in these rings, I make a bottom of foil, I just cut off a piece of foil, put a ring on it and squeeze this foil with my fingers from the outside, press it against the ring, such a side is formed outside the ring, and inside I already put a circle of baking paper, and nothing flows]

I bought such a ring here 🔗, the quality suits me quite well, on large diameters, of course, the circle turns a little into an oval, but this is for all such rings, as far as I know.
I also bake in these rings, I make a bottom of foil, I just cut off a piece of foil, put a ring on it and squeeze this foil with my fingers from the outside, press it against the ring, such a side is formed outside the ring, and inside I already put a circle of baking paper, and nothing flows

[Nansy]

Nansy, thank you very much, now I really want such a ring)))))

now I really want such a ring)))))

Better yet, have two in stock)) It is very convenient when you make two cakes at the same time. For example a bunk bed.
And then I thought: girl-th: how do girls collect cakes in four tiers. I would need 4 such rings)))

and how girls collect cakes in four tiers

you can collect in turn

but how girls collect cakes in four tiers. I would need 4 such rings)))

I saw on pages like this Temka that girls make such rings out of cardboard, you can collect with it, but I would be afraid to bake in this in my old gas lady)))

you can collect in turn

well, yes, I understand that. While you collect the next tier, the previous one stays. Only it seems to me to stand in the ring
time is short.

girls make such rings out of cardboard

I once tried out of cardboard. My upper tier was less than 16 cm. The ring would not have jammed.
It turned out with cardboard, but I had to spin around the cake. Grumbled, booted)))

I am into small tiers, which are less than 16 cm, a biscuit in a ring is 16 cm, then I cut the biscuit itself to the desired diameter, and collect it in a ring from a plastic folder. I cut the folder, glued it into a long strip with tape, wrap the bottom layer of the biscuit with it, fasten it with paper clips, and then put the cream and the rest of the layers inside. It turns out, of course, not as smoothly as in an iron ring, but if you freeze it, then you can neatly trim the entire tier with a knife

I cut the folder, glued it into a long strip with adhesive tape,

oh, Natasha, thanks: rose: Listen, and if you collect the cake and wrap it with this strip from the folder, pull it off and fix it with tape.
What do you think? Will it work? I need to pinch the cake, otherwise it will be crooked.

[thrill]

thrill, Lyuba, I think it will work out!

and I've read a lot of you, who makes rings from what and remembered that I have a hard plastic napkin that is placed on the table. Her dimensions are solid. Its surface is smooth, and I cut a strip out of it. True, I haven't collected cake in it yet.
The width of the napkin is 90 cm. So it is enough for all diameters. True, such tapes are suitable only for assembly, but not for baking.

Oh, and I have one. Exactly, you need to cut it, and collect it, it should keep its shape better. Lyuda, you are the head!

So I have this lying idle. Fuh, you can relax. And as the tier is small, so is the problem.
Lyudmila, thank you !!!

Girls, thank you all very much for the answers and tips!

Girls, please tell me. I bought a special ring for assembly, it is very convenient. But there was a problem - after the cake had stood under the load for the allotted time, I began to remove the ring, but the side part stuck and, accordingly, fell out. Although neatly walked with a knife edge. The question is - are you wrapping the ring with cling film, or am I the crooked one?

[Cixlida]

Cixlida, Natasha, plastic binders, flexible boards for kitchen needs, teflon napkins - cut into strips and insert into rings. Then tighten the cake with them, in the cold.))) It's simple!

[Mom Tanya]

Mom Tanya, Thank you! I hoped that there would be no need to bother with the folder anymore, I would have to get it :)

[Cixlida]

Cixlida, I freeze in the ring and then walk with a knife, the better the cake is frozen around the edges, the better it is pulled out later

[Cixlida]

Cixlida, I collected the cake, covered it with cling film and clamped it with a ring. I do this all the time.
The ring is clean and no cake sticks to it.

: rose: Thanks for the advice girls

[Cixlida]

Cixlida, Natasha, I cut a strip of flower film and put it inside the ring. Then I take off the ring, and the film is always removed neatly and without loss.

[Vei]

Vei, thanks for the advice, I will definitely try
I collected the cake, wrapped it around with a strip from a dense folder, and on top of the ring, everything went away without problems, but in those places where the pak was glued with tape, dents turned out. I'll try with a film.

[Natasha]

Natasha, I tried a lot and settled on the film, it's the most convenient and cheap for me. Every time I cut the size as needed, clean, nothing needs to be washed, everything turns out neatly, suitable for any cakes (cream, mousse, etc.).

Hello girls! Please tell me how to assemble a cake 24-25 cm high and about 24 in diameter, weight 5 kg, this is a bucket of paint. Do you need any special mounts there? The composition of the cake is cherry, chocolate biscuit and some kind of low-fat cream, I thought it was sour cream, but when I found out about the required height, I was horrified, everything would fall apart or the cake itself would crush the bottom cakes.

[vikikika75]

vikikika75, collect in a split ring, additionally make a circle of the desired height from dense folders. be sure to put under pressure at night. I would take a creamy cream with the addition of gelatin. Without taking it out of the ring, first strengthen it with skewers and I would definitely smear it with ganache on cream and chocolate. Or in the second version, as two-tiered, with substrates and skewers.

[vikikika75]

vikikika75, I would definitely collect as a two-tiered one through a substrate and a system of skewers-tubes