Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)

Hello everyone! Today I baked bread with whole grain flour according to a recipe from a Russian book, but for some reason I was afraid to put on the second program, it is so short, so I baked it on the first one. It seems that I got a bun))) Looked round and not linden. Now it is cooling down))

Another question - if I add instead of whole grain flour, for example, buckwheat or oatmeal, can I use the same recipe or look for some others?

[Annitta]

Annitta, up to 70-80 g is quite good on the main program. 100 g - already for an amateur, heavy, but baked. It turns out so solid, not too tall. More is more difficult.
I usually add about 70 g of some "interesting" flour and a tablespoon of corn. Corn is almost always, I really like the smell of bread baked with it, so freshly homemade. But for the taste - no more than a spoon. Plus 100-120 wheat of the 1st grade, the rest is premium wheat. The main or "French" program mixes and bakes all this perfectly.
Yes, I brought all the grammets for the smallest, for 400 g of flour. I usually bake this.
Buckwheat, if for taste, you can have a couple of tablespoons of everything: it has such an intense taste / smell that the bread comes out grayish. If for good, then you can, like other "interesting" ones.
Isn't the 2nd program "Fast Basic"? Or do you have a stove with a different menu? Fast is closer to toast, plump. In my opinion, it does not tolerate coarse flour additives. But the taste and color ...

[Annitta]

Annitta, try this bread:
Recipe (by Boka): Wheat-rye-buckwheat bread "Bouquet".
I bake in the main mode.

[Annitta]

if I add instead of whole grain flour, for example, buckwheat or oatmeal, can I use the same recipe or look for some others?

Annitta, no, you can't, you need to change the liquid, since the properties of different types of flour are different, look for recipes with exactly the type of flour you want to add.
I have already answered a similar question to Alexander, which means that the thought is in the air, so I will quote again:

other types of flour, such as corn or oatmeal, are very different stories. Many people like cornbread, but if you pour in excess cornmeal, then the bread will be "crumbly", and oatmeal gives extra. moisture to the dough and some "heaviness" ...
Over time, experience will come, we all once started, but now we can bake something of our own, not quite according to recipes or not at all according to recipes

And the first program, it is almost universal, you can bake a lot of recipes on it.

jawar, delicious! Your own kvass, unsweetened?
When I bake on kvass (alas, store-bought, carbonated) I no longer add sugar.

Hello everyone! Purchased kvass, but not the one sold in bottles with aging like cognac, for 10 years. Our local manufacturer, sold in bags or in 2 liter bottles (shelf life 15 days in my opinion), and baked on it. At first I was confused by the portion, 400 ml, it seemed a bit too much, but I poured it, as Panas said in the recipes, it turned out great. And taste, class !!!

And I again baked a passionate Westphalian:

Kneading on dumplings for 15 minutes, detuning in multit on yogurt, yesterday almost 2 hours, baking in the same place 1 hour 30 minutes. I like round rye more than "brick"

fluid needs to be changed

It's true, I forgot to say. More fluid is needed. Here are the proportions (from 400 g -70 of some kind of wallpaper / peeled / whole grain) liquid (together with diluted dry milk, salt and sugar / honey) about 300 ml. Apart from the oil.Well, here it is empirically, plus or minus 5 ml if humidity or something.
This does not apply to whole-grain wheat, I rarely bake with it, there is a completely different story, and you need to watch a bun. But the smoked one is normal.

[Annitta]

Annitta, specify, do you have 2511 Europeans? In the Russian 2511, the second program is low-yeast bread, which lasts 4 hours and 50 minutes. It is better to write not the program number, but the name, so it will be clearer to us.
The site has separate sections in which recipes for bread with different flours (more precisely, with additives of different flours) are selected. There are proven, reliable recipes, use them. If you yourself want to get good bread for your tastes, then in the previous posts you were prompted how to proceed. To understand at least a little about flour, read Tanya Admin:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...033.0

again baked a passionate Westphalian:

What a handsome man, Lyudochka!
A lovely sight.
I, however, bake it only in HP.
I'll try in Redik too.

Ritochka, rarely the roof turns out to be damp, here you need to either put it in a stove (brick) for the night, as I put it, or use a redmond airfryer cover, by the way, it works well with the lid, but who has it

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, Lud, I wanted such a cover, but ...
I also bake in Redmond02 without a lid.
Doing a Coup. No problem.
There are two breads in my Recipes in this way.
But I also baked them right in HP. It turns out this way and that!))
Of course, I always do kneading in our HP!

Good day! Such a question - is it possible to bake a sourdough starter (freshly fed) of a suitable weight on a starter for reasons of "it's a pity to throw it away" or "there is nowhere to put the remainder after feeding"? Thank you

[Griha]

Griha, not possible, but necessary.
Throwing out bread (flour) is a sin.

Hello! For the second week I have been reading the forum, while I am not very familiar with it, perhaps already somewhere there are answers to my questions, then, if you can post a link.
The question, in general, is simple (I already asked it in another thread, Tatyana answered me there, for which she thanks her and she recommended to write it here).
I have already 4 days a happy owner of Panasonic 2510))) I have already baked 3 breads according to recipes from this forum (I didn’t believe it myself). The bread is wonderful! now I want to complicate the task and make wheat-rye bread. I baked a lightweight version; 320 psh / 80 rzh - it turned out great. I want to try even more rye))
A question to the owners of the same model or a similar one, where there is no rye mode, what ratio will be normal with a normal spatula and what would be all mechanized: fell asleep, closed (what mode?), Opened and took out the bread.
I definitely can't stand and watch the kolobok (I've read the topics, but I'm not ready for this yet).
Is it possible ?
for example 350 millet / 150 rye? will the car turn? will be baked on mode # 1 (main)?
or should the rye flour be reduced?

I wrote a lot ... I'm sorry ... but I really want to please my husband, who made me an unexpected gift))

Thank you!

It will be baked in the main mode, a spatula for rye is in many ways a myth, it makes no sense to change these spatulas all the time, your spatula will be ripped off, put rye for all breads, as it were, a spare one, for 3 years this replacement has not affected any batch. If there is a little rye, you have 150 g, try gradually, first, for example, 120 g, that is, 30%. But it's still wiser to control. Over time, you will get used to checking the bun when baking any bread, flour can be different, even simple wheat bread is better to check, sometimes you need to add water or flour, this is not only not confusing, but also interesting.

[TaRa]

TaRa, here's the recipe, tested, you can use it on the main one, although the recipe is written in French, but it will also be good on the main one.

Panasonic 2501. Stolichny rye-wheat bread Fill in the ingredients in the following sequence: yeast, sugar, bran, flour, salt, oil, water. Set program 8 (French bread). After baking, grease the crust, which is still warm, ...Elenka ...

Rye flour is even 200g, I helped a little with a spatula. First I did pre-mixing on dumplings, then I turned on the main one, but I think that it is possible without pre-mixing, immediately put the main one.

[TaRa]

TaRaI am not a very experienced baker, but in my experience breads with a lot of rye flour are better controlled a little. After kneading, I always try to go to the bread maker and take out the spatula (it often happened that it remained in the bread after baking) and be sure to smooth the dough with wet hands. Then the loaf turns out to be smooth and beautiful)))
In general, I have been tracking all the koloboks lately: for some reason, if I pour liquids according to the recipe, the dough is very, very liquid. Apparently, my flour is some kind of raw)))) so I do not add water a little and control the process. If there is no time to wait until HP "evens out the temperature", I do a pre-batch on the Pizza program)))

[TaRa]

TaRaand I prefer to bake bread at night. In the evening I threw everything, in the morning I took out a hot bread. Today, here is a rye-wheat baking. Flour 200 g of wheat and rye, yeast, salt, olive oil, 280 ml of liquid (I had about half a light beer Stella Artois). Basic mode. In the morning I took out a low, crooked loaf, but it tasted purely Darnitsky

Maybe, of course, the bun was not perfect, but the result pleased me.
This I mean that Panasonic forgives a lot, and the output is almost always perfect bread.
And if you want to dance with tambourines, then I knead it by hand and bake it in the oven.

many thanks to all for the advice!
My main question is whether the stove can turn millet-rye dough (at what ratio is it safe)?
I'm sorry to hurt her))

Will the oven be able to turn millet-rye dough (at what ratio is it safe)?

Most often I bake bread with a 50/50 ratio of wheat and rye flour. Mixes without problems. She also made almost entirely rye dough. Yes, it is sticky and heavy. The oven creaked))) so for myself I decided to stop at “half” loaves, I use a comb-blade for such a dough.



https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=219607.0 My favorite bread with rye flour (by the way, it's even less than half here) Wheat-rye bread with prunes and pumpkin seeds for Panasonic (SD-2502)
By Elena 65

[TaRa]

TaRa, most often from dark breads I bake our favorite Rye bread "It's very simple" ELENA BO
there is even more rye flour
Recipe (by Elena Bo): Rye bread "It's very simple" in a bread maker.
I advise, we really like it!
And yes, my stove is also 2510, I did not regret that there is no rye mode, the service "warm" mode helps out
there are so many recipes on HP, I found mine and you will find it, try it! PaniSonya won't let you down!

[TaRa]

TaRaif you are afraid for the engine, buy a comb, they say it appeared in service centers.

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[Olga]

I also have a stove 2510, I did not regret at all that there is no rye mode, the service "warm" mode helps

Olga, and what is it? I tried to find in the instructions, but to no avail

[Catherine]

Catherine, there is no description in the manual, it is "secret", but everything is on the HP:
"Warm" rise of the test in the Panasonic SD-2501 service mode

[Smile]

Smile, Katerina, Lyudmilochka has already answered!

Good day! I saw "Combs" on Ali Express.

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Good day! I saw "Combs" on Ali Express.

There is no 100% certainty that they will fit. I remember that Luda Mandraik Ludmila approached, but someone from this Temko, no.

Well .. Ali is unpredictable ..

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, Thank you,Lyudmila, I was looking so hard for a black cat in a dark room

Hello girls!
I haven't written about the results for a long time)
Thanks to your tips and comments, I was able to make a beautiful bread, I almost understand what a bun)))
By the way, they asked what version of HP I have - European, are there any differences?

I slowly experiment with the addition of different flours, I really liked it with oatmeal.

And today, for some reason, the top is slightly uneven and slightly inward, maybe someone knows what could have influenced this?

today for some reason a little uneven and slightly inward the top

Probably, you need to slightly reduce the amount of liquid.

[gala10]

gala10, Thank you! I'll try))

By the way, they asked what version of HP I have - European, are there any differences?

There is. Here are the comparison tables:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...338.0

Well, that's all ... and I became an adherent of the cult, which I wanted and gave myself to myself on the 23rd, ... 2510.

[Igor]

Well, that's all ... and I became an adherent of the cult, which I wanted and gave myself to myself on the 23rd, ... 2510.

Igor, Congratulations!

became an adherent of the cult

Sometimes it turns out to be very pleasant and useful, with the purchase of delicious breads!

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, probably for the time being I’m tampering with my old and now there is a lot of bread and I must read everything thoroughly.
I see you are a regular on the topic, throw me direct links to the timings of all programs.
And the topic is already moving into 'unisex' mode.

[Igor]

Igor, gorgeous gift, congratulations! Delicious bread!

[Palych]

Palych, the same I congratulate you on the purchase of Panasik.
Sorry, but let's be respectful to each other:

Throw me direct links to the timings of all programs.

It is advisable to use the word "please"
And yet, what do you mean by the word timing? The instructions indicate the duration of the programs, by minutes, all processes vary somewhat in time depending on the ambient temperature.

Sorry, but let's be respectful to each other:
Quote: Palych from Today at 14:19
Throw me direct links to the timings of all programs.
It is advisable to use the word "please

[Palych]

Palych, Igor, Congratulations!

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...97192.0

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, Page 7 ... why didn't you add it to the header? Let's fix it.
Probably confused you with another Sveta ... sorry.
Mandraik Ludmila, preferably ... well, boom to try. But while there will be such respect for all the participants, I do not promise. (A little higher)

Hello girls!
Haven't written for a long time ...

It's like we are not here and do not notice .... no, you can sometimes pry with your elbow, so that they would not relax)).

In general, according to network etiquette, addressing "you" (without politeness) is not derogatory / offensive in relation to the interlocutor. And for many, I noticed in the profile something like: "to me on you."

Okay, I have already put a test batch, a full rate of 600g flour / 370 water / 2salt and yeast and 2st. l sugar and butter. This is a test case. 2 program, wed. crust.
It stands still, biding its time. Then it will go for crackers, ours just run out.

My model does not match the table at the link both in numbers and timings (

$ vetLana, page 7 ... why didn't you add it to the header? Fix

The first post of this topic. There is a link to this table. The programs for 255-2512 are similar if they are named the same, for example, Basic, Diet, French, etc. IMHO. I use the plate for 2511 and 2501.

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, I understand that there is no pause (temporary termination of work) in the process. And you need to read the difference between the programs "baking" (from 1 to 13) and "dough" (from 14 to 26), there is a "main" (1 and 14), French (9 and 20) for example, only that that there is no baking?

I didn't quite understand the question
Progi (for 2510) 1-12 for bread, and 14-24 for dough.
9 for bread, and 20 for dough of the same name French.
13 - baking, time can be set.

What is the difference and how do the "jam" and "fruit in syrup" modes work? In the first one there is only "pastries 00: 30-1: 30", in the other there are generally some omissions (probably only interferes). Does it interfere and heat at the same time? Yes? How and with what temperature? 90-100 ° C? Does it interfere constantly or cyclically? Not the fact that I will use it, but you need to know (theoretically))

[Palych]

Palych, I don't even know which of ours used it here, I'm not interested in this mode, I don't know It's a pity our Natasha (Talia) hasn't come here for a long time, she knows everything

[Palych]

Not the fact that I will use it, but you need to know

Palych, everything is very simple. You download, turn on, measure, mark and write us a report on the work done.
You look, it will come in handy for some theorists.