$ vetLana
Quote: He
No, my dear young lady, I am dumb.
Sir, made fun
Quote: fffuntic
Svetik, if it's tasty, then you can
Thank you, Lenusik, so I will do so
mamusi
Quote: fffuntic
the ease of assimilation and usefulness fall sharply. It's like with cottage cheese. You can warm it up, but it's healthier to live.
And if it's not a pity, then you can heat as much as you like)))
Lenus, hello !!! "Raw" all the healthier!
There are even such people "cheese makers"" raw food "... And they do not eat cheese, but eat everything raw!

Len, this is a humor joke, you know! ...


Quote: Melatriel
Please help me find a recipe for a Panasonic bread maker for sweet buns.
Right now I will give my beloved one, which I turned from an oven into a KhP-ny. Has baked many times. In HP it turns out with a bang.
And yesterday and tonight, for Daughter has arrived.

Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)Roll with cottage cheese in accordance with GOST
(Sonadora)


Here are my photos and comments

Roll with cottage cheese in accordance with GOST # 21
Roll with cottage cheese according to GOST # 25
Dashik
I'm already flying to the store for the stove! I'll put on test bread in the evening. I'm terribly excited!
yosha
Dashik, look forward to.
$ vetLana
Dashikcertainly exciting! Let everything work out!
Mandraik Ludmila
Ritochka, once again congratulations on the arrival of my daughter!

The dough from a roll with cottage cheese is gorgeous, I noted the same in the posts there, I did it more than once and on this dough I made both pies and buns
mamusi
Mandraik Ludmila, Lyudochka, today they had breakfast already, it turned out awesome! And almost no dancing!
That is, I throw everything like Sonadory and turn on the Pelmeni. After 3 minutes I throw in the oil, after 2 minutes the salt (the stove kneads for itself, and I portray Sonadoru ...)
Then 8 minutes before the end of the Program off. A couple of times and did not turn it off. Dumplings brought to the end.
And I set myself the Main. He parted on the Alignment, and then all the dances went according to the Program, but it was not me who was "dancing", but Panasik himself. The result is always gorgeous!

I and I say to Panasik: "Shall we dance?"

He usually doesn't mind ...
Mandraik Ludmila
Ritochka, yes, our panasiki are generally docile, I repartitioned the Sonadorino dough, put more cottage cheese and first blend the cottage cheese with eggs, and then made it on the "main dough". I like her dough, I still have to make it, otherwise my granulated cottage cheese stagnates, the dough rises very well with peroxide
Wlad
Dashik, Good luck and delicious pastries
Mandraik Ludmila
Dashik, we are waiting for impressions!
k.alena
I'm for advice. My whole bucket from DeLonga died, I didn't find a new one anywhere, I decided to buy a new stove. And since at the time of purchase the DeLongs were put on a par with Panasik, now I want to try it out. Problem in choosing the SD-ZB2512KTS or SD-2511WTS model? Of the differences, I found only the case and the presence of a yeast dispenser for 2512. And the price difference is 25%. Is that dispenser so necessary and convenient and how much better is the metal case (besides the obvious visual appeal) to pay extra for it?
$ vetLana
k.alena, if you have extra money, you can also model 2512. But I can do without a yeast dispenser. IMHO. I have 2511.
sazalexter
k.alena, Take SD-2511WTS, no difference other than price, yeast dispenser and iron body are optional
Mandraik Ludmila
Elena, in my opinion, a yeast dispenser is not needed at all, and in general it is harmful, it bangs so badly, mum don't worry. I pour yeast into flour, bury it in it and all the cases, I have 2511 - happy as an elephant
k.alena
Thank you, you have confirmed my guesses. I don't have it on the table anyway, but is taken out as needed. And the yeast dispenser ... I don't understand the need. But I asked just in case
$ vetLana
k.alena, Elena, maybe someone from 2512 will write about a yeast dispenser. Wait a while owners 2512
k.alena
So the fact is that there is already experience and there is no need for this dispenser, although the usual one is necessary - sweet bread with nuts is baked most often
$ vetLana
Quote: k.alena
experience already
Then the matter is small: buy Panasika 2511
Waist
About the yeast dispenser (DD): it is needed where it is.
There are recipes where the yeast must be introduced at a certain point, neither before nor after. But since DD is embedded for several recipes, then all other recipes are altered to use DD. You can only use it for those very few specific recipes, but the DD will work with EVERY bread or dough.
The yeast dispenser has a sound of 30 dB, the loudest of the sounds of a working bread machine, and it does not turn off.

Models for the Russian market, 2511 - universal.

yosha
Personally, I was going to buy 2511, I even put it in the basket. But at the time of payment, a promotion for 2512 arrived, it became cheaper than the 11 model. Therefore, I took it, now I use a yeast dispenser (if there is one). If the oven is without a timer, then it is definitely not needed. I would not overpay for it.




It seems to me that this baking dispenser is made from ready-made mixtures, they also contain salt.
k.alena
Thanks to all who unsubscribed ordered 2511
Lelik_R
I deliberately chose the oven with two dispensers, because I was going (and I am baking now) mainly at night in the delayed mode, and the sound of the dispenser strained only for the first time, and then only because I listened to the work of the oven. Now I sleep and don't blow my mustache, and in the morning I take out warm bread
But since the 2512 is my first bakery, I can't say if this dispenser is really needed (I just don't know the other, I always put yeast in it).
Wlad
k.alena, I have 2502, but I will also insert my five cents, there is a yeast dispenser, but it is not used at all ... only it creates extra noise
yosha
And I liked putting in the dispenser. It seems like a trifle, but I like it. As the last step in the process. But I would not overpay for him in any case, and I do not bake with a timer, otherwise I would have thought
Ninelle
Quote: k.alena

So the fact is that there is already experience and there is no need for this dispenser, although the usual one is necessary - sweet bread with nuts is baked most often
I wouldn't mind using an all-metal stove, because when mine fell, almost all the plastic shattered. The dispenser was used by everyone. The first one died for nuts. If there was a stove in a metal case without a dispenser, I would have taken it without it, and so I have a choice between 2502 and 2512
Wlad
Natasha, Due to my phenomenal memory, I don't remember either I read somewhere or they told me here that if yeast is put on bread without a timer, it is better to fall asleep first




Ninelle, but about 2512 I can't say anything - I don't know, but as for 2502,: secret: I'm very pleased
Mandraik Ludmila
Lelik_R, and in 2511, the same there is a delayed start, no problems, we laid everything in the evening and went to bed, by the required hours of the morning everything is ready
Lelik_R
Mandraik Ludmila, I did not say that there is no delayed start. It's just that everywhere they write that with a delayed start, it is better not to pour yeast immediately to all products, so that they do not start acting ahead of time. For this, the dispenser is good, it will pour them in exactly when the time comes. But is this true or is it quite enough to fill them with flour so that they do not get wet ahead of time, and completely do without DD, I cannot say, there is no such experience. I wanted a HP with two dispensers, so I chose 2512 for myself and I am very satisfied
yosha
WLAD, so I'll pour it into the hole. And what is it harmful? Suddenly I forget to put the mixer, I have to pick all the layers (once I forgot the whole one)
For 12 model, if you overpay, then only for the case, the dispenser is pampering. And for ready-made mixtures (I repeat) it is very useful.
Jackdaw-Crow
Quote: Ninelle
I wouldn't mind using an all-metal stove, because when mine fell, almost all the plastic shattered.
Will the metal case only save it from breakage when dropped? Not sure. But the stoves don't fall too often, I suppose.
yosha
I brought you a Chelsea roll from Mistletoe. Delicious!!! Dough on the Brioche program. Everything exactly according to the recipe, only lemon juice syrup (vitamins)
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)




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Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)Chelsea buns
(Omela)
Lelik_R
Is brioche a French program?
yosha
Lelik_R, no. I have a European model 2512, there is such a program.And in our models, the basic one is quite suitable, it's just that Brioche is shorter in time, there is no kneading one (it seems, you need to track it) and the oil is thrown on the whistle.
Lelik_R
yosha, I see, thanks. The buns are very beautiful, I'll take a note
Waist
Quote: Jackdaw Crow
Will the metal case only save it from breakage when dropped? Not sure. But the stoves don't fall too often, I suppose.
I bought 2512 used. she was apparently dropped, but caught in flight, one side was jammed near the stove. So my husband corrected it easily. The plastic case would have burst.

But Ninell fell straight and the plastic bottom and top frame cracked. As a result, these parts (bottom and top) are more difficult to find used. New ones are expensive.

But all this is a matter of chance.






Lelik_R, Olya, prepare the dough on the program for the dough, it is special - the output is ready-made dough for cutting.
Quote: yosha
I brought you a Chelsea roll
Cool what!
Wit
Quote: Lelik_R
It's just that everywhere they write that with a delayed start, it is better not to pour yeast immediately to all products, so that they do not start acting ahead of time.
Everywhere they write - where is this? For the first time in 5 years of baking I have heard such a thing. Apparently, the owners do not write this way Panasonic. I always put yeast on the bottom, then flour, salty-sweet water and sunflower oil.
Quote: Lelik_R
For this, the dispenser is good, it will pour them in exactly when the time comes.
But this I will no longer tolerate and, unlike Vlad, I will insert my ruble. Aha! Or maybe not! And not only when the time comes, but in general.
Here, only above, we have already written about such cases.

Mandraik Ludmila
The fewer moving parts, the less chance of breakage
Wit
Classic! This was hammered into us in the 3rd year of the radio engineering faculty. Buttercup,

And I'm Bonch!

Mandraik Ludmila
Wit,

otherwise I am a systems engineer by education, I graduated from Polytechnic University



The taste and color ... we are all different here, all panasiks are good, and in my opinion, it is better to save money, but otherwise these are not very important "details".
yosha
Oh, sorry, I don't know Japanese. Google translator translates funny. Here's what he translated about the dispenser:
Panasonic's home bakery uses the "noodle noodle method" which loads a sensor that detects room temperature and core temperature from # 1 released in 1987, and automatically injects yeast after gluten has been generated enough. Depending on the season and changes in the room temperature while driving, you can bake bread with a stable flavor throughout the year.
Wlad
NatashaAwesome rolls, oh, I wish I had dozens of such dozen, I would quickly attach them for their intended purpose
$ vetLana
yosha, lovely. It turns out that everything is simple. It is clear for sure
yosha
First, everything really mixes there, then only the yeast spills out, then mix slowly again and only then a stronger mix begins. In the usual mode, for strong flour, a strong kneading is performed, Italian is more tender or something. Different flours - different strength and mixing time and temperature. Therefore, both the dispenser and a bunch of programs are only a plus for the consumer. You choose your programs and you are happy. Everyone has different preferences in bread, you need to please everyone.




WLADalready built




And what are the names of the modes on Japanese stoves (I had to order from Japan): white bread from bread, marbled, fluffy, tough dough, rich dough, raw chocolate, bean paste and a whole bunch of other things. Gone to suffer
Dashik
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)
With bated breath, the first bread from Panasonic. Yes, the "primitive" first recipe, but you would know how from the beginning of summer to yesterday I was tormented with the previous bread maker, self-esteem fell with each baking (I did not find a common language with her).
Thank you for your support.
yosha
With a start!
mamusi
Quote: Dashik
With bated breath, the first bread from Panasonic. Yes, the "primitive" first recipe, but you would know how from the beginning of summer to yesterday I was tormented with the previous bread maker, self-esteem fell with each baking (I did not find a common language with her).
... well, word for word, like me, when we got rid of Polaris and bought Panasik!
$ vetLana
Dashik,
Waist
Dashik, URAAAAA !!!!! Congratulations on your first bread !!!
Wlad
DashikCongratulations
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Dashik
I suffered with the previous bread maker, self-esteem fell with each baking (I did not find a common language with her).
Dashik, I had the same story with Redmond, now I was taken to the city - I work with a dough mixer, I bake in the city in the oven. It is not our handles that are to blame, but the crooked handles of the designers of those stoves or the workers who assembled them.

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