yosha
Quote: Waist
And why suffer? Stick yourself stickers with these names and calm down. Japanese - for Japanese. Many of their breads can be baked in our ovens. In Japanese there are additional rice programs: bread, dough, noodles ... But rice is needed there not just every different, but special. You need IT, Natasha?
Waist, I'm just joking about the modes, I don't need it. But there are some interesting points to think about. For example, the lid on the inside is heat-reflecting, there is a choice of mixing strength (though I didn't understand why, I need to read the instructions, but Google doesn't want to read it on my tablet). Yeast separately, it goes without saying. I went there to read about the dispenser, to understand the idea.




Quote: Waist
Natasha, where are you reading?
Panasonic's website choose Japan. I love to read all about the technique.




WaistIf I understood correctly, the SD-MDX 100 is a bread machine with a manual mode, and it seems like you can interrupt the oven with a button and control it. Tomorrow I'll read it on my computer, it translates better there than on a tablet
Wit
Dashik, the bread is wonderful and very tasty (no doubt about it). Next time try using the "Dark" crust.
sazalexter
HP for Japan theme
New models of bread maker from Panasonic
there is something else interesting
Ninelle
Quote: Dark Steppe Eagle

Natasha, Due to my phenomenal memory, I don't remember either I read somewhere or they told me here that if yeast is put on bread without a timer, it is better to fall asleep first




Ninelle, but about 2512 I can't say anything - I don't know, but as for 2502,: secret: I'm very pleased
So I was happy with 2502 until it collapsed to the floor.




Quote: Jackdaw Crow

Will the metal case only save it from breakage when dropped? Not sure. But the stoves do not fall too often, I suppose.
If the parts were not worth like the whole stove, it would have saved.




Right now I'm sitting in a stupor ... Which one should I take ?! All equipment is black or black and steel ... Spit on the design and save money, take the cheapest one (from Panasonic, of course), or 2502 or 2512 ?!




sazalexter, Alexander, please tell me, how do they differ from 2502 from 2512?
sazalexter
Quote: Ninelle
how do they differ 2502 from 2512
As far as I know, only in programs and dates of production start.
yosha
Ninelle, if design is not important, then 2511. I would not take 2501 and 2502 models now, they have been sold for a long time, discontinued, and suddenly the marriage is sold or stored somewhere damp (but I am a reinsurer for life, so maybe and not right). I ordered in Germany for a promotion, so my 12 model was a thousand cheaper than the 11
sazalexter
Quote: Ninelle
Spit on design and save money, take
SD 2511
yosha
Well, if design is important, then 2512, of course
Ninelle
Quote: sazalexter

As far as I know, only in programs and dates of production start.
And what programs were added in 2512?
I read somewhere that they are going to Malaysia, and on many sites China is indicated. I understand that it doesn't matter. Then, on some forum I read that the Japanese seem to have taken into account some flaws in 2502 and 2501 and fixed them in 2512 and 2511. Are they lying?




Quote: yosha

Ninelle, if design is not important, then 2511. I would not take 2501 and 2502 models now, they have been sold for a long time, discontinued, and suddenly the marriage is sold or stored somewhere damp (but I am a reinsurer for life, so maybe and not right). I ordered in Germany for a promotion, so my 12 model turned out to be a thousand cheaper than the 11
In Germany, I don't have time to get to NG ...
yosha
Low-yeast and stuffed bread (like that is called), this is what sticks together manually to throw on the whistle. There were shortcomings with the dispensary, it seems to have removed it even in those models (the year of issue should be looked at)
sazalexter
Ninelle, Panasonic's HP factory is located in China, it also collects HP for the Japanese market




Quote: yosha
There were shortcomings with the dispensary
These shortcomings, alas, cannot be corrected even by Panasonic. And here is the dispenser, fixed at the beginning of production
Ninelle
sazalexter, with dispensers, flaws, is it that brittle plastic thing?
yosha
This is not me, this is a tablet (these auto-corrections hesitated)
sazalexter
NinelleDoes your 2502 close and keep up normally? So they fixed it.
Ninelle
Quote: sazalexter

NinelleDoes your 2502 close and keep up normally? So they fixed it.
I have a broken plastic hook that opens the dispenser
sazalexter
NinelleBuy in household or construction epoxylin moment (metal) 🔗 and glue the bottom of the HP from the inside, you can not touch the top. On the saved money, a gift to NG to your beloved Dispenser, if you don't need it, you can leave it alone.
Ninelle
Quote: sazalexter

NinelleBuy in the household or construction epoxylin moment 🔗 and glue the bottom of the HP from the inside, you can not touch the top. On the saved money, a gift to NG to your beloved Dispenser, if you don't need it, you can leave it alone.

And he is not harmful ?!
sazalexter
Ninelle, The bottom of the HP does not come into contact with food and does not heat up above 70 * C, I do not see anything terrible.
Ninelle
Quote: sazalexter

Ninelle, The bottom of the HP does not come into contact with food and does not heat up above 70 * C, I do not see anything terrible.
OK thanks.
Mandraik Ludmila
On Natasha's advice, I took out the dispenser altogether, and so that there was no hole in the lid, I put chocolate foil under the small lid (it is more dense). I insert the dispenser only when I bake on programs with additives, and take it out right after the trigger, this is such paranoia
Ninelle
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila

On Natasha's advice, I took out the dispenser altogether, and so that there was no hole in the lid, I put chocolate foil under the small lid (it is more dense). I insert the dispenser only when I bake on programs with additives, and take it out right after the trigger, this is such paranoia
Mmmm ... Are the dispensers the same for 2502 and 2512? Then, if I do buy 2512 (well, or 2502), I will put the old one, and the new one is only for adding ingredients. And then, Natasha also bought a spare hook, metal, she is no longer afraid of anything
Mandraik Ludmila
If my dispenser breaks down, I will add pens, I will not put it on sleep anyway, because of its "shot" from sleep it can happen. In general, I have it next to the pansik, like a container for small change from HP, I put an unused spatula in it, pin open yeast with a clip ... and so on.
Ninelle
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila

If my dispenser breaks down, I will add pens, I will not put it on sleep anyway, because of its "shot" from sleep it can happen. In general, I have it next to the pansik, like a container for small change from HP, I put an unused spatula in it, pin open yeast with a paper clip ... and so on.
Well, on my dead 2502, he was the first to break. Therefore, there is a spare, half-alive
Waist
Quote: Ninelle
I have a broken plastic hook that opens the dispenser

Quote: Ninelle
Natasha also bought a spare hook, metal, she is no longer afraid of anything
Nope, not a spare. I received it and immediately installed the Dispenser installed in its place, because I am more afraid to "kill" it when stored outside the HP
Quote: Ninelle
Mmmm ... Are the dispensers the same for 2502 and 2512?
Yes, the same.
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Waist
I'm more afraid to "kill" him when stored outside HP
Natasha, and how is it? He lies to himself, does not ask for food, does not run around the table, what will become of him? Suddenly, I did not foresee something and I need to hide it ... so that I would not find it later
Waist
Buttercup, there are sloppy ones in the family, who even have TVs falling on their own
Ninelle
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila

Natasha, and how is it? He lies to himself, does not ask for food, does not run around the table, what will become of him? Suddenly, I did not foresee something and I need to hide it ... so that I would not find it later
Some even bakeries go wherever they want ...
Waist
Well, so that the dispenser does not go away or jump, I put it in place
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
you need to hide it ... so that you don't find it later
And this is already about me personally. Again, I was reinsured so that this would not happen
Mandraik Ludmila
Baked gray bread, rye and wheat flour in half. The second day tastes better than the first.
The bread is not high, but has risen well for such an amount of rye flour, finely porous. I am experimenting, trying to do something similar to a shop darnytsky, for an old lady next door, my usual bread is too soft for her. It seems like it will be better, it is dense, but not hard


wheat flour 1s 200g
peeled rye flour 200 rub
serum 260ml
1 tsp salt
1 tbsp honey
butter-vegetable oil 10g
trembling saf-levure 1 tsp

He warmed up the whey a little, dissolved salt and honey in it, poured it into the bucket first, poured the SAF-levure yeast there, everything else on top, rye bread program



I cut the top, and it also cracked, but this is not scary, it will be possible next time more serum by 20 ml
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)
Wlad
LudmilaI was already drooling ...
mamusi
Buttercup, Lud, good Bread! I love this one so much!
And I sometimes not on rye, but at the Service distance and at the end point of the Ascent, I already put Baking. Also good at it. But when there is no time to follow, then yes ~ on Rzhan!)
Lyudochka, I put butter for 2 seconds. l., and whey ~ yes ~ 280-290 g. Bread will rise better!




Well, this, of course, is mine ...
Not everyone likes it so ...
To your (my) taste.
Mandraik Ludmila
Ritochka, so I think I need more whey, and I weigh the butter, it is a bar, I buy a butter-vegetable spread for baking, the dough loves mixed fats, well it seems to me
Wlad
Who knows, tell me pliz, can the quality of butter affect the cake dough? I did everything as usual, BUT (for some reason the dough with lumps turned out this time, and I don't understand what the reason is)
Mandraik Ludmila
WLAD, did you heat the butter or put it in pieces? If you didn’t heat it, then it is possible that the oil is not quite oil and is not mixed well.
Wlad
Ludmila, no, I didn't heat it, I cut it in pieces, it was soft, I never heated it, it always mixed well ...
$ vetLana
Dark steppe eagle, Vlad, is the oil really good? Did you bake with him before?
Mandraik Ludmila
Theoretically, there may be something with oil, especially if a counterfeit is caught. What oil was it?
Wlad
Svetlana, the fact of the matter is that I have never tried such oil, I used to use BREST LITOVSK ... and I don’t remember this name, but the packaging is already in the trash can
Mandraik Ludmila
WLAD, but in general it is strange, I have not yet encountered this. Theoretically, if the oil was dissimilar, lumps could form ... but a lot of doubts
Wlad
LudmilaAnd I'm still a young baker ... I have no experience at all, so I asked
Mandraik Ludmila
WLAD, you know, a mixture of vegetable and butter should not give such an effect, so why did they mix it there .. And the tab was as usual, sowing flour?
$ vetLana
Dark steppe eagle, Vlad, it's bad that I didn't remember the manufacturer. Now you definitely need to look at the label, read the composition!
Poor-quality butter is especially visible if you whip cream. Therefore, you need to remember the manufacturer if you liked the quality. I used to buy only Finnish. There have never been punctures, and now I don't even know which oil is good.
Mandraik Ludmila
WLAD, I usually bake cottage cheese or sour cream cakes, others in our family do not recognize. So, curd can be a little lumps in the dough, but when baking, everything diverges.
Waist
Vlad, and on which program do you knead?
I have all the programs with heating and there is no difference, all the same, in 7-10 minutes of kneading, the oil conceals, even if I put it in one piece.

We sell butter, a couple of kopecks cheaper than natural butter, but in fact it is cheaper - like plasticine or wax. It even conceals with difficulty, the color practically does not change if it stands in the open air.
Cirre
Quote: $ vetLana
I bought only Finnish.
It is only good and remains
Wlad
LudmilaI did everything as usual, sowed flour with my broken sieve (I can't wait for a new one to come), except for unfamiliar oil ...
SvetlanaBut somehow everything turned out spontaneously this time with me, and it was not me who bought the oil ...
Natalia, And I kneaded on program 19 (I have dumplings), even a little longer this time ... 12 minutes so that the lumps disperse at least a little
In general, the cupcake did not work out, it turned out quite pale from the top
Apparently this is all because of this oil.
Totosha
Please tell me which mechanical sieve is good? And another question: does any sieve sift rye flour hard? Happy everyone!
Cirre
Totosha, Tatiana, girls buy vibrating sieve Sieve (vibrating sieve)
Ninelle
Guys, maybe they have already written, I have not seen it, but the information, the site of the top technology. rf is a clone of vsepechki24, they work according to the same scheme, they do not have most of the stoves, they are terribly hayat from Panasonic, and they are actively promoting "Italian". Apparently, there are many complaints about vsepechki24, so they created an additional site.
Wlad
GalinaWhy only girls? ... boys too
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