zvezda
Well, yes .. I looked, the price is how sorry we are ..
Lyuba! And about the cake in more detail (I, personally, am interested in the cream in induction. I experiment everything ..) And now Kondurin and gel dyes ordered .. I will try
Olga VB
Quote: Prus - 2
9040 is also prohibitive - I saw him, also 30,000+
Then, probably, your choice of Elite is optimal for you.
Boom now wait for your new recipes for Kesha when the purchase takes place
Prus - 2
You've got a whole Kenwood arsenal! )) Well, I definitely don't need induction. Basically, if I buy attachments identical to those I have in Bosch, it will be super! Yes, and I will not put my Boshi anywhere either, I will just put it on the table. The sit is here. The kitchen, although 13 m, but the tables in it are 4.8 meters long)), well, no one canceled the pantries. I now see that nowhere do Ken's sieve-wipes appear on sale? They were also taken out of production? I have in Boch, I don’t make blanks, but for raspberries and black currants, a sieve is needed. And the cottage cheese is ideally broken in the processor into a cheese mass. Ol, I'll give you a PM about the cake, otherwise Olya won't praise us for the flood))




I am now interested in the recipe for paste with cuttlefish ink. But you need Ken with rolling and cutters. This will probably be one of the first recipes))
Miranda
Juli-Lev, Congratulations!
The nozzles are massive, yes. Over time, you can improve the class of your car, replacing it with more massive stainless steel from the flagships.



Prus - 2, Elite is a good car. It is from Tinanium, which is the flagship among machines without induction, differs in a slightly lower power (but 1400 and so excellent), that there is no backlight in the bowl (pleasant pampering), only the backlight of the speed regulator, and there is no flexi and souffle in the set (you can bribe with time , this is not a functional difference). But the hook, rim, K-shaped - the same stainless steel, spiral hook.

Decent choice!
Prus - 2
Thank you Miranda! Olya-Zvezda, I have painted everything for you in two creams! And where there is with induction - too. In short, I'm back! Only for some reason, notifications are not received by mail ((. Okay, I will monitor, if there are any questions, I will always answer.
Miranda
Prus - 2, they don't come to me either I look at yours (button at the top)

Kenwood machines are such that you have to look at the motor, assembly, and so on. And the equipment is the last thing. Because nozzles are bought in addition, or they change, for example, silumin whisk / hook / k-shaped to stainless steel (but they are the same for Elite and Titanium). And functionally Elite is not much different from Titanium - power and backlight. Well, the Elite is more rounded in design, and the Titanium is straight. That is, do not even doubt the choice, since the price is very different, and more because of the configuration and ruffles than functionality.
Juli-Lev
Thank you for your congratulations. Please answer about the nozzles, how to adjust them, I asked above.
Marinuly
Quote: Juli-Lev
Please answer about the nozzles, how to adjust them, I asked above.
Yulia, in the instructions it should be
I put a sheet of paper folded in 4 times under the nozzle, it should be pulled out with little effort. Then start the machine (the bowl is empty), the whisk should not hit the sides of the bowl.
Maybe someone else will give advice, but I regulated this way.




Rather not on the walls of the bowl, but so that the bottom does not touch
Prus - 2
Miranda, thanks dear! Very nice to meet you! I will take into account all the recommendations, and they are in this topic - the sea! Really - I twisted it this way and that - induction is not needed. I cook little and rarely, mostly dietary meals. Here are my 4 multicooker and multigrill to help.If you do not make yeast dough (and the volume of the bowl is critical for me for cake and for stollen in winter), then my Boshikov will be enough for my eyes. But - Kenwood is a thing, not a toy (compared to him) Boshi. And let's face it - the amount of accumulated equipment at home is straining. There is also an optimization here - the Ken attachments will replace many freestanding devices for me. Well, all the other goodies are in the form of a design)).
Miranda
Prus - 2
Now everything is very clear! We need to put this on the first page of the topic - it will come in handy for many when choosing a car! Virgo is felt - or the Sun in Virgo, or the stellium of the planets.
Miranda
Prus - 2The reference book as a topic is fixed by the first topic in the section, and everything is there at once (from what has already been added). And this topic can acquire part 4 and further. Will be lost.

I took the idea, like the picture with the attachments (in the first post of the Handbook) from the Czechs, only translated it into Russian, added Sense and cars with a small bowl 🔗

Quote: Prus - 2
Virgo is felt - or the Sun in Virgo, or the stellium of the planets.
I don't know what I have where
Marinuly
Quote: Miranda
Made a table by model
Miranda, it turned out, do not add, do not subtract. Everything is clearly laid out on the shelves.
This is in my opinion
Miranda
Marinuly, Thank you
I will take a break from the Directory for an indefinite time, the uniformity is tired
Miranda
Quote: Aries_83
Good morning! This is my first time here, so sorry if this was discussed and asked. Yesterday I bought ... an attachment for wiping and mixing 992. I didn't bother to study the question thoroughly in advance ... the smaller diameter of the pin still bothers me ... Is there any hope to find 930 ...?
Aries_83, welcome to the forum.
If you read it first, you would know the answer to your question. It is asked here a couple of times a month. The same. Repeatedly.

There is a theme for the attachments.
Kenwood kitchen machine: working with attachments

More information can be found here.
KM Kenwood. Directory. #16
visual73
CookingChef has risen in price! Alas and ah ...
Not 1 thousand ... but as much as 7! What is there ... that not 20 at once ... I don't even know ...
It cost 63, and now 70! Well, yes, what's the difference ...
This price is unlikely to be competitive. It's a pity of course I didn't have time to buy. Now I am considering other options. Kitchen Prof is also worth ... it is inferior only in power ... but this is a controversial advantage. Heating ... I don't know ...
Chasing money will not lead to Kenwood's success.
Stavr
Yes, I also looked, the price of 70 and 80 went up a lot, hmm.
visual73
It's just a shame .... not long ago the euro was worth 40-50 ... then the prices were different ...
Well, make production like machines in Kaluga ... Why such prices? We do not have European salaries ... The purchasing power of such equipment is already low, I have been preparing for this event for a long time ... so let's raise it further ...
Well nafig her ... ((
I'll go to Bosch I'll look ... ((
Miranda
If you look at the exchange rate, then the price in euros is almost the same. They are calculated in euros for deliveries. And VAT will soon grow, everything will rise in price.

A friend bought it in the middle (or early) of the summer, when the course was 71-something, and the price was for 9060, that is, the complete set was 70 thousand (69 990). I issued an installment plan, but with the aim of paying off immediately, so it turned out in 63 (because the installment plan is the price minus 10%, and if you deposit 10 months, it turns out without overpayments - 10 times x 7 thousand = 70 thousand, and if you pay off immediately, then 10% discount).

Quote: visual73
Well, make a production like machines in Kaluga ...
They won't.
Because:
Quote: visual73
The purchasing power of such equipment is already low
Factory, machine tools, personnel training, salaries, utilities, logistics, taxes, quality control, etc. will not be cheaper than China.

But since. do not grow, then the price is really sad now. It is a pity that you did not have time. When at the end of 14g. early 15g. the rate was worse than now, the price was under 100 for the previous induction, but six months later the rate fell, prices dropped. And there were all kinds of actions. Only hope so.
Svetlenki
Quote: visual73
CookingChef has risen in price

Look at the price in Europe. And moreover, induction has always been at such a price, and maybe a little higher a couple of years ago ...

🔗

visual73
Well, we are far from the salaries of Europe. What to compare ...
If I receive, as in Europe, at least from 10 thousand euros, this is how much a specialist of my level gets there, then Kenwood is easy to buy ...
Salaries in the country are 20-30 thousand rubles.
We need to switch to domestic. At these prices, this is the right direction. Well, Kenwood is for Europeans))
And the gift scales won't sweeten the bitter pill
LydiaVera
visual73, for domestic what?
visual73
Quote: LydiaVera

visual73, for domestic what?
Well, it's time to do such combines ourselves. We launch rockets into space, and I think a similar Kenwood with nanotechnology is also easy ...
Of course not yet .... but we can get together.

While I'm kneading the dough in the bread maker ...




By the way, there are no Chinese analogues? Nobody searched?
LydiaVera
visual73When the notorious import substitution began, consumables began to be used exclusively by us at work. All the time I want to meet with the genius engineers and other handy people who produce them and beat their hands and heads with them.
My salary is far below twenty, although I am also not the last, I hope, a specialist and work God forbid.
Here everyone is free to decide what to buy and what equipment to use.
I have long wanted a similar car and do not regret it at all, although I pay for it with a regular loan, without any shares, etc.
Until they get together, I might not live.
visual73
Everything is true of course ... everyone decides for himself.
But I don't understand you ... with a salary of less than 20 .... Can you have a husband with a salary? ))
It just doesn't fit in my head when a student in a poor family buys an iPhone for 80 on credit for 10 years ... It's not something you can't live without. Let it be 60 ... with a salary of 20 ... This is psychosis).
The mortgage was enough for me. Your home is important. But...
In short, this is just my IMHO. And everyone lives as he wants)
Svetlenki
visual73Why are you touching on these "sore" topics here? I just gave an example of pricing in Europe in relation to the Beautiful (with a capital letter Beautiful) Kenwood Cooking Chef ...
visual73
And I just wrote that the beautiful Kenwood has risen in price. And it became, and was, too, quite too heavy for the domestic consumer.

I don't understand why it feels so painful).
Miranda
visual73, iPhone and kitchen. the car can only be compared for the price.
Everything else is beyond comparison at all.

If you just knead, whip, etc. - look in professional equipment stores, you can buy a good planetary mixer from 18-20 thousand. It will only be a mixer, with a hook / whisk / bitter, without the possibility of additional. nozzles.

visual73
Good advice. Of course I'll see.
And who else can a dough mixer tell me for a house that is not very expensive? You never know ... who knows ... still Mcooker: the best recipes)
Miranda
visual73, you can discuss different kneaders here.
The link is just a mixer bought in restaurant equipment stores. Google, write down the names, read reviews, find where it is cheaper, and you can keep up to 20 thousand.

Kneading machines # 2439
Masha Ivanova
visual73, now in barAhlka an excellent dough mixer Bosch 84 is sold for an excellent price.
visual73
Flea market? )) I want a new one)
zvezda
Quote: visual73
CookingChef has risen in price!
I bought it for 73 in November 2017! So there is a controversial issue about the rise in price
Miranda
zvezda, I remember the prices of 15-16 years, because I was hovering around the purchase.
After takeoff due to the course for 90 thousand full induction, in the spring of the 16th they lowered to 76 thousand, in the fall they dropped to 60, but then quickly raised to 65. That is, it always depended heavily on the course, the price was quickly rebuilt.

But for 17 and 18 years I don't remember. And for how much the new induction began to be sold - I also don't remember. And even more so, I don't remember the prices before the crisis. There were different promotions, I remember how they bought stickers in your house with some kind of discount. But now induction is sold only in one place.

Induction is the flagship. Its price will always be 900-1000 euros + -.
Either wait for a decline in the rate, or a share. But both of them may not last long.
S_V
If there are those who want to buy from Novosibirsk at the old price of 72990 rubles. 9060 write only today.
Peter Push
Quote: visual73
And who else can a dough mixer tell me for a house that is not very expensive? You never know ... who knows ... still Mcooker: the best recipes)
visual73, can you reconsider your desires in the direction of combining with your capabilities? If it is possible, and you first need Kenwood as a kneader, then move your gaze to other Kenwood km models, there are a lot of them (look at Miranda's Handbook). Two years ago I bought a Kenwood Premier km, power 1200W. It perfectly kneads both wheat and rye-wheat dough, whips, mixes, etc. I have a meat grinder, a blender, a food processor, an ice cream maker, and a hook for it with a spiral-shaped one from induction 80. I am happy with this technique.Take my advice - do not abandon Kenwood in favor of budget kilometers, I had one for three years, Klatronic, I will not say anything bad about it, but nerves are needed to work on it, and the quality is not that. I wish you success! And do not despair, there is plenty to choose from.
zvezda
Miranda! It happened to me .. I bought it in November 2017 for 72990, and after 2 !!! days it began to cost 65000
for another 72990.




Quote: Peter Push
but nerves to work on it need iron,
Natasha! How clear ... directly +10000000!
visual73
Nataliya,
I was of course considering two Kenwood options. Cooking Chief and Titanium. Others don't like ...
As such, I do not need dopa attachments. The goal is a kneader and planetary mixer.
Therefore, I originally wanted a titanium.
Next is finance / budget. I'm not saying that I have no money. But I don’t want to spend money just like that. Every penny should work out investments.

The Titanium is sold with only three attachments as a gift. But I immediately began to suspect that any gift can only be conditionally considered a gift. All inclusive. Therefore, the cost of a titanium with gifts (otherwise they do not sell) comes out 60k, and the CookingChief with induction cost 63 ... Well, I'm ripe for induction ... all the more, I think heating is also a useful thing for dough ... sometimes proving 25 and 28 gr. you have to do ... this still needs to be adjusted at home ... Well, now I'm ready to go .... and bam! I'm sorry. I don’t want to overpay 7 pieces in principle.
I don't print them.

Here many speak in the form of "why did you come here with your problems?" And "oh, what a super-duper this super duper Kenwood" ....

I don't know why I came. But certainly not to scold Kenwood. I like it too, that's why I wanted to buy it. But the reaction of many is thought provoking. Well, I don't believe in the ideal in this world. )). Constantly sugary reviews are boring.

Since the price has increased, and the titanium does not cost that much (I do not need gifts, just drop the price), there is a lot more to consider. The same kitsch, I used to think that it costs a lot of money, but now I compare it with Kenwood ... the advantages and prices are comparable. As a very respected baker has compared, kitschen is a convertible!) No, I'm not a fan of kitschen and this is not why I came here ... but the device is also interesting.

Thank you Natasha for your sympathy)).
Of course I will search and choose. I do not consider clathronics and the like, nevertheless I adhere to the principle "dear and sweet".
I hope I didn't offend anyone in my feelings for Kenwood).
Good luck everyone!))
Miranda
Quote: visual73
Here many express themselves in the form "why did you come here with your problems?"
It's a pity you read the answers like that.
Nobody invested such a thought. But I understand you, if I chose for a long time, collected money, and now I almost came to the store, and it bam - and more expensive, I would be sooooo very upset.

The option to save is an installment plan paid off immediately. And yet, depending on who you run into, sometimes the managers on the phone, if they are told about the installments, can offer a 10% discount. That is, the same discount, but without an interlayer in the form of a bank.

If we had a stable exchange rate, I would advise to wait for Black Friday in November, a couple of days last year there was a discount.

Well, or dough mixers like this

🔗



Good luck!
Olga VB
Brothers, the last couple of pages are a lot of off, moreover, the same thing in a circle.
We discuss exchange rates and difficulties in life in other topics
Peter Push
Quote: [b] visual73 [/ b]
Since the price has increased, and the titanium does not cost that much (I do not need gifts, just drop the price), there is a lot more to consider. The same kitsch, I used to think that it costs a lot of money, but now I compare it with Kenwood ... the advantages and prices are comparable. As a very respected baker has compared, kitschen is a convertible!) No, I'm not a fan of kitschen and this is not why I came here ... but the device is also interesting.
visual73, everyone comes here for advice, and "experienced" who can help as best they can. Kenwood or Kitchen, the eternal question, for me it did not stand, if the pastry chef (this is my opinion) Kitchen is the very thing, and the bread dough is Kenwood.I also chose for a long time, I wanted 020 (023), but somehow it didn’t work out, then I have the required amount, I don’t have any km, then vice versa ... I bought the Premier cheaper, but that doesn’t mean worse, the insides and the body are the same with 020, and saving on the other. If you only need a planetary - a mixer and a dough mixer (you have decided on the size of the bowl, as I see it), consider from Elite to KVL 4100, they have a lot of complete sets, but you are satisfied with the very minimum, there are no gifts, you pay for the car and a set of attachments, what suits you, then take it. Also look towards Sense. 1200W power is enough for all work and planetary and attachments. Kneaders very much warm up the dough, in the summer I knead in ice water, and then I often have to send the dough to the refrigerator for an hour after kneading. Well, you can really wait for "Black" Friday. You decide. I wish you good luck!
Nija42
visual73maybe it is worth looking at Kenwood kmix for your tasks? I just needed a mixer and a kneader, I bought a Kenwood kmix 750 - and it turned out to be very good.
Bijou
Quote: Nija42
maybe it is worth looking at Kenwood kmix for your tasks? I just needed a mixer and a kneader, I bought a Kenwood kmix 750 - and it turned out to be very good.
Surprisingly, not all users agree with you. ((Have you compared it to anything else?
Quote: Sonadora
Quote: Bijou from Today at 13:43
>> And Kenwood, as a dough mixer, just didn't go very well for me

Bijou, Lena, similarly, Kmix I have. I use it as a mixer and a meat grinder, knead the minced meat. I prefer to knead the dough in a bread maker. Many times faster and better.
Miranda
Bijou, but how can there be a single opinion about anything?
Not everyone loves the induction machine either.
Bijou
Miranda, well, you are probably right.) But there are still basic directions that are clear to everyone. And it just so happens that not all Kenwoods are equally useful as a kneader. Since I myself lost a lot of money on such a mistake of mine, and in the topic, no one particularly focused my attention on this fact, I would like to warn at least someone. Not about not buying Kenwood, God forbid, of course not!

And the fact that expectations and reality are far from the same thing and we must be aware that a good batch may be in another model, and the jambs are not at all in the crooked hands of the owner. I consider it unfair to remain silent about this.

By the way, either I did not come across, or actually dissatisfied with kneading bread (I don’t know about rye) dough, the same Bosch seems to be practically nonexistent. There is a pastry shop, but not bread.
Stavr
Bijou, I have a Boshik mum maxi and I'm not happy, maybe this is in my case. But now I want KenwoodKukingshef, maybe I'm wrong. But you won't understand without trying. Of course, I'm still thinking about either Kesha or Arkash.
Rituslya
Quote: Stavr
But you won't understand without trying.
that's for sure.
I also want to try MAXIMAL BOSHIK, because my Ken has eternal flaws.

LydiaVera
Quote: Stavr
Of course, I'm still thinking about either Kesha or Arkash.
This is what I can understand. I can't understand why buy a donkey if you need a heavy truck.
Bijou
Stavr, no, well, about a car for 70 thousand with a spiral hook, I can't say anything bad even if I really want to.)))

And the usual Kenwood for 40 thousand with a four-liter bowl was compared on the same table with the simplest Bosch 6 times cheaper and Bosch won unconditionally on the "default" trim levels.
Rituslya
Quote: LydiaVera
why buy a donkey
Donkey is Kesha or Arkasha?

I'm not at all in the subject, but here I mixed yeast pies in Kesh and ... that's it. Mlynnna, and where the hell have I been for almost two years ?!

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