mur_myau
Quote: Ipatiya
As far as I understood, the opinion about her is not very good.
It's lower than the Ferrari.
Eh ... And Napoli Express is better than Ferrari, right? Or is it the same?

And the arieta has a round disk on top. Is this the notorious reflector? (I looked at the picture of ozone)

Gibus,
I'm completely confused. But by the name Bella Napoli and Napoli Express are different models of the same company?
Gibus
Quote: Ipatiya
Even temperatures of 450 ° C achieve
The question is - is it necessary? There, some have openly burnt pizza in the photo ...
I don't know how much you can trust such thermometers, mine shows 90C for boiling (bubbling) water ...
Here, I measured them in my pizza maker:
Pizza oven
and then, it happens, the bottom burns. It is necessary, when warming up, before the second pizza to put the foil in order to heat the top, and not to overheat the stone.

addition of 02/28/2015
but today like this:
Pizza oven
Gibus
Quote: mur_myau
But by the name Bella Napoli and Napoli Express are different models of the same company?
Firms are different. Bella Napoli from Melchioni. And Express Napoli is from Optima. I have the first one. Reviews on it are also contradictory - they say that the thermostat breaks down often. I still have all the rules.
mur_myau
Gibus,
Got it, thanks!
auntyirisha
Gibus, you consoled me a little. I'm waiting for a Ferrari with two stones (I hope I'll get it this time), it will be three thousand more expensive for me than Ariette (the toad has already galloped up) But the height to the shade is important to me, and here your message is a balm to me because I want more universal than just using the oven for pizza.
Sneg6
auntyirisha, where ordered, if not a secret?
Gibus
auntyirishaI hope everything will work out for you
It seems that Ferrari has not disappointed anyone yet, everyone praises it - both ours and the Italians.
And I am somehow not happy with my Napoli. She probably expected more ... My husband likes pizza (he is her main consumer). But, I don't bake anything except pizza in it. Although there is 6.5 cm from the stone to the heating element, the pastries are thicker, next to the heating element it strives to burn. I tried it a couple of times and returned to the usual tabletop oven - easier and more convenient. The power consumption is about the same. So, I could easily do without a pizza maker. But, after all, until you buy, you don't know
Mikhaska
Gibus, thanks for sharing! I read your story and decided not to buy Ariete. And, in general, do not buy yet. Since everything is as you write, I can do just fine with the oven, although because of it I have Africa in my kitchen. And, for all kinds of pizzas, I have a Princess. Not a Ferrari, of course, but we are not Italians, to bring pizza to unimaginable perfection. We are quite satisfied with what turns out in the Princesses.
Alex100
here, too, I come to the conclusion, if we take it, then the ferrari
cheaper counterparts have too significant errors
Mirabel
Alex100Why is Bestron worse?
Masha-Masinen bought it and is very happy.
Alex100
Mirabel maybe not worse) I read a comparative review about Rolsen and Ferrari, and the lady claimed that the pizza turns out to be one to one



Mirabel
Alex100So what does Rolsen have to do with it? sort of like we are talking about Bestron. You are simply assuming that Ferrari is the best! And who knows, until you try.
auntyirisha
Sneg6, Olga, it’s no secret, of course, through a page that carries goods from a Polish site, but with Delicia they gave me a ride twice, though they ordered, according to them, from the same seller. I hope that this time everything will be fine, "Prumel" - They brought me a miracle without any problems. I don't know, of course, whether this second stone is needed there or not (I think not), but I wrote off from "Marcato", wrote that with two stones it is produced in Italy (at least I can somehow explain its cost), it will come (if )- we'll see.I'm not in a hurry, I still can't eat post-pizza, but I count on chapatis and focaccia. I myself do not know how much I need it.
auntyirisha
Gibus, thanks, I hope too)
Sneg6
auntyirisha, Irina, thank you! Now I, too, are thinking about the need for a stove or I can do it.
Mirabel
Sneg6, Ol, here I am, too, in thought ... it's good that there are more important purchases for the near future.
Alex100
Mirabel it is clear that everything is learned in comparisons

about ferrari completely positive reviews from everywhere

but the same Rollsen, for example, cost around 1000 r and who tried both stoves did not notice much difference

while thinking about the advisability of buying a pizza oven
auntyirisha
Sneg6, Olga, and I sat, watched the video and again I want it: here it is, female inconstancy! I have been waiting for Delicia for so long, it can be seen that I "burned out" slightly, the price of the issue is serious. I thought to think of something and use it with Princess recipes as well.
Masinen
I can say that baking pizza is pampering)
Those if you have extra money and space in the kitchen, then you can buy.
Here she has been standing since the summer and I have never baked a pizza)
Mirabel
Masinen, Masha !!! What do you mean ... I was kind of happy with the purchase in the summer: girl-th: she exhibited such seductive photos of pizza
In some places I agree with you. But something so everyone trumpets that the pizza from there is incomparable with the Princess's.
What do you bake pizza in? or haven't baked at all since summer?
Mirabel
Quote: Alex100
while thinking about the advisability of buying a pizza oven
Likewise.
Masinen
Vika, yes, I'm happy with the purchase)
I baked all the time in the summer, maybe we were in Bosnia, and there the family is big and there was someone to eat)
Well, there is no time here! And no one really asks)
Well, in general, this is not an essential purchase.
But the fact that I have it is cool !!
But if it were not, then I would have been thinking all the time how to buy it
Mirabel
Quote: Masinen
But the fact that I have it is cool !!
Aaa won how! So let it be!
Well, to be completely honest, we are here infected with a virus, we buy a lot of things that are far from essential, such as 5 cartoons and pressure cookers, 3 blenders, and so on. Therefore, perhaps, such a pizza oven can take place in the kitchen.

Masinen
Yes, yes, of course it's good to have it!
In the process I didn’t bake pizza, I bought it for someone else.
I like the cakes in it, Pita Serbian.
And only Bestron for pizza!

Maybe today I will be honored for pizza)
Mirabel
Masinen, Mashun, let's bake pizza! We talked about this and you wanted to.
I bake pizza very often, so I probably have to buy it.
TatianaSa
I like pizza in a pizza oven better. I only use it for this. Very useful for a birthday party when they came to visit. I took her with me, they asked. 9 pizzas in an hour were delicious. Now everyone envies me.
auntyirisha
Maria, exactly, exactly! So I want it since summer. I think it should pay off this way and it should pay off pretty quickly. Cheese would still be good. I watched the video, there they made pizza without cheese, you can post it.
Mirabel
TatianaSaThat's for sure about DR! Today I have such a party planned, somehow I need to be able to quickly bake 4 pizzas in the Princess
Gibus
Girls (and boys), if you love pizza and bake it often, of course, a pizza maker with a stone is worth buying. They all do a good job with pizza, and on a stone pizza is definitely better than without it (in the oven it is also better on a stone)!
Alex100
Quote: Gibus

(in the oven it is also better on the stone)!

I just ordered the stone in the oven. In one topic, they explained to me its advantage, even if the oven is good electric, there is an effect)
mur_myau
What I found. It happens. The heating is bottom, but there are holes for air circulation.
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mur_myau
Quote: Masinen
But if it were not, then I would have been thinking all the time how to buy it
The same problem. Periodically, thoughts revolve around what I don't have and the girls from the forum have.))) Maybe I need it too?
Reine de Saba
Girls who have bestrons, someone kind of screwed on the fan, write, how is it, with a valve?
Mirabel
mur_myau, Len, today we celebrate our son's DR and made 4 pizzas. I'm worn out ... to put it mildly ..local kids friends. of course love my pizzas.
He baked and they ate .. and so all the stuff. Well, the process seemed to me too long. I have already decided to buy for sure
marusacharli
🔗 ... how do you like this?
TatianaSa
marusacharli, this is a one-to-one bestron, only the lid is different. She's a Ferrari fantasy. I had both. One still remains. sho with a valve, sho without it, the middle is such as the Italians love, the cheese is melted well, but does not have a fried crust. The fireman is good. After using it, I realized that the form is superfluous, because I do not use it. But I am sooo happy with the additionally purchased stone. Six months of use, and he is as good as new, clean. Nothing, no foil, no paper.
marusacharli
Thank you
Sneg6
Quote: marusyarli

🔗 ... how do you like this?
Price
Can be found much cheaper.
marusacharli
Where?
Sneg6
Quote: marusyarli

Where?
**
Delivery is not cheap, but in general the price is reasonable.
TatianaSa
I gave links in the topic to bestron. Take a look. It cost me something up to 10 for sure, maybe even 8. I don't remember, I won't lie
mur_myau
Gas, by the way. But the price ...
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mur_myau
Evening is generous with finds. What is this "beast"?
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Anybody have?
mur_myau
Swinging stove with a door.
🔗

I have confusion and swaying thoughts. -___-
mur_myau
On ozone, the price of Ariete was raised to 9800 rubles! Naive.
Mirabel
mur_myau, Len, in my opinion. the first, that is, gas, is not at all our option, you need to oven in it on the street. Well, only if you arrange a pizza party in the country.
The second ... is it open or what? as if everything is baked outside?
But third, we have a lot in Turkish shops and are very inexpensive, and of different sizes, from so tolerant to huge.
And I must say that the Turks buy them. They seem to be very successful. But how to bring it home? It will occupy the entire kitchen, but it seems to me that it can easily replace the oven.
Natalishka
Strange, all Ariete electrical goods disappeared on Ozone
mur_myau
Natalishka,
I'll take a look. I had a pizza oven in the delayed ones, was it missing or not?
mur_myau
Mirabel,
And I would have bought one for the dacha. By the way, I google it, you can use it at home, if you have an adapter and a powerful hood. I have been looking at Turkish sands for a long time (since last year, when they flashed in the topic of miracle stoves).

Now I have found another stove-pad (for gas)! In my opinion, this is my option. Heat on gas and then bake directly in it. Something my pictures are not inserted today, I press the icon and nothing.
Buy for trial. If you like it, I don't need any ferrari.
Mirabel
mur_myau,
Quote: mur_myau
with an adapter
And what kind of adapter are we talking about?
In my opinion, for the house, she is big: girl-th: although if the size of the kitchen allows ...

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