mur_myau
auntyirisha,
Thanks for the measurements !!!
Playful
Bul Yes, no, the dough swells if rolled out thickly. It happens to me, if it is unevenly rolled out, then it can be welded in one place. You just need to roll thinner, over time you will fill your hand. And also watch the video on YouTube, where almost everyone is turning pizza in a few minutes from the start of cooking. I also began to do this in the middle of the preparation and the dough stopped sticking to the shadow.
Alex100
Quote: win-tat

Yulia, so I don’t understand, you don’t like the pizza from the pizza maker? I blush very well, and a thin crust below. But in my oven, the heating element is W-shaped on top, and not round, so it bakes evenly.

And initially, by the brand of the stove, you can determine what ten is worth?
win-tat
Quote: Alex100

And initially, by the brand of the stove, you can determine what ten is worth?
I bought my Ferrari 4 years ago and her ten was then W-shaped, and those who recently took a round one ... So there is little hope for the brand, either from a photo, or to specify when ordering ...
auntyirisha
Yesterday my beauty did a great job! I baked four pizzas: two on yeast-free dough from our site, two on yeast. The most delicious was mushroom dough on yeast-free dough: I spread the dough with homemade sour cream, sprinkled with ground porcini mushrooms (I have them in powder directly, I ordered them from the family estate "Milenki", myself in mushrooms or-boom-boom), cheese, finely chopped champignons, chopped onion (in this I was helped by the new "Giant" shredder - very convenient and quick) and a little more cheese on top and a little dill. It turned out to be tender, with a creamy mushroom taste.
Bul
Tatyana, and at what temperature do you bake?
kil
I, too, never stuck and everything fries well in my Ferrarca. Regarding the shape of the ten, the Italians prefer round, so now they began to produce them with a round ten, they just love melted, but not toasted cheese in the middle of the pizza and toasted edges. I think the problem here is too high a suitable pizza dough and a thick roll. In general, I roll very thinly, less than 0.5 cm.
Bul
I rolled it very thinly, you can say straight to transparency! Mine prefer little toppings. But yesterday I put a lot on purpose and one bubble still inflated to the heating element. The finished dough turned out to be slightly thicker than lavash! Probably overdone, now I'll try to make it thicker.
Bul
It's bubbling like Chabata! Especially if they reach the heating element for 3. I cooked 2.5 bubbles less. They don't seem to reach the heating element, but these places look burnt.
win-tat
Quote: Bulia

Tatyana, and at what temperature do you bake?
If this is for me, then at "3" 5 minutes
brusnika
auntyirisha, can I ask you two questions :)?
1. How much did it cost you to deliver the stove through a group in contact, if not a secret, and how long did it take?
2. Here recently it again flashed about the shape of the shadow ... Which is better W or U? ... Do you have a U-shaped Ferrari in your Ferrari? How do you like pizza? Is it really not baked in the middle to the desired consistency?
Can someone else respond on this issue?

I’m already sitting with money on the card and I want to press a button, but my hand still doesn’t give up, all doubts are tormenting me. It's worth the money, you don't want to fly past your expectations. By the way, I did not find 115 euros cheaper on Ibei, they wrote a couple of pages earlier like 104, it seems they have risen in price a little.
Masinen
brusnika, everything is expensive on Ibei.
But on Amazon German you can find it for 80 euros.
brusnika
Masinen, I somehow am not on friendly terms with the delivery from the Amazon, can you poke where you need to look how it's all done, pliz-pliz
brusnika
Sorry, just looked 🔗 and did not find such a price ... a minimum of 99 delice, and a nepolitana (with two stones) 111 euros. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?
auntyirisha
brusnika, the stove cost me 7900r. + delivery to the house 150r. (But, I live in Kaliningrad, and the stove was brought to me from Poland, close). I waited ... here, too, a few "buts": I ordered it several times through the same group, they said twice that she simply did not come to the warehouse (they asked for a refund) and once (then I tried with two stones) that the box was broken (they made a return), then they changed the seller of the stove and everything came in 10-12 days. In my ten it is round, everything is fine, when I baked lavashiks and put them in the center, if it puffed up, the crust was fried in the middle. It seems to me that if there was a better W-shaped ten, they would do this, since they decided to be round, I think that Italians know better, they eat pizza more often
Alex100
well, for example 82.9 euros 🔗

there is a delivery to Russia
brusnika
Alex100, thanks, but I'm not considering a delusion, but a nepolitana with two stones, it is certainly more expensive. And I wrote off with this seller (when I was still thinking about the delice), they told me that the delivery would cost 78 euros, in general, cheaper than 60 for delivery to Russia, I did not find (and I wrote to many) the stove comes out gold, it just comforts it cheaper than in the marcato store mentioned here.
auntyirisha
brusnika, with two stones I would have cost 10500r. or 9500r., I don't remember exactly, but this is when the euro was more expensive.
Alex100
brusnika Evgeny Hoffman tried to find out about these stoves, who sells cleaning vegetables on the forum, but so far there is silence ...

And I didn't like the service of the Marcato store at all, I ordered a noodle cutter from them last year
brusnika
auntyirisha, well, it looks like a little money difference comes out. There may be a benefit in ibey if you take several stoves, since the delivery cost does not change. But I don't know where to find anyone else. At first I wanted to take two stoves for myself, but then changed my mind.

And thanks to ten. I will hope for Italian quality :))
Sens
Quote: brusnika
But I don't know where to find anyone else.
but here and look! throw a cry in this and other topics! it was already!
Pchela maja
I want, but I'm in St. Petersburg
brusnika
Somehow I have never dealt with this ... In general, I need to be quicker, otherwise I have been chewing on this topic for so long, all the deadlines have passed. Well this is a joint purchase, it seems called. And the risks that the whole whole will come (here they wrote that they also received broken stones) and how money to each other back and forth ... Something I get a mess. I need pizza :)
brusnika
I apologize if I misled someone, my husband said that he had already ordered, while I was pondering everything and looking at the tens in the stoves on the Internet. In general, the maximum - I can share my impressions, I hope very positive.
Maybe next time I'll be quicker when I decide to buy something.
Pchela maja
brusnika, in fact, it is not difficult at all, many have cards, so transferring money is not a problem at all
another thing is that in the case of a pizza oven, it is better to look for those who wish in one city, so as not to pay for the postage between cities later. Quarrel for off
brusnika
Pchela maja, I have been reading this thread for a long time, and I decided to write only now. Maybe if I was more decisive, then I probably would have ruled everything for a long time.
brusnika
While I was looking at the shadows on the Internet, I realized that they are round in two types. For example, in a Ferrari with two stones there is a ten in the form of a circle, and in a Ferrari there is a protrusion in a circle in the middle in the form of a loop (are they probably called u-shaped?). Well, in some others there are w-shaped. Excuse me for being meticulous, but I want to understand this moment for myself once and for all. When you write that ten is round, what is it?
Such?
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auntyirisha
brusnika, yes, the same as in the photo.
brusnika
auntyirisha, thank you, otherwise I thought that in the delice the ten is different, like a slingshot, and therefore everyone praises it so much. True, on YouTube I think I saw it with a slingshot, maybe they released it earlier ...
Astilba
Ladies, maybe anyone needs it, there is a pizza grill Ariete 905 for sale on Yulmart .. the price is 7.150 rubles.
Alex100
Astilba, there was talk about this furnace, when it appeared on ozone for 7500 like
she falls short of the Ferrari and a lot
brusnika
Dear, has anyone met where you can buy such a unit
Pizza oven
Only pictures come across ...
Astilba
Quote: Alex100

Astilba, there was talk about this furnace, when it appeared on ozone for 7500 like
she falls short of the Ferrari and a lot
On account of the effectiveness of baking pizza in Ferrrari, I can't judge, I don't have it in stock.There is only Alpina oven purchased at Ozone Ariete and rectangular pizza. This is heaven and earth, of course. Alpina bakes pizza in an absolutely incomparable way, like in a wood-fired oven .. powerful and fast. Ariete, I adapted for baking pies, because she bakes better than the Princess, in which not all types of pies are baked as I would like.
Aleksaniko
Astilba, Hello! So, shouldn't you buy Ariete? Doesn't bake pizza very well? I have already set my sights (((With the Princess I didn’t work twice ... The top didn’t bake at all, only the cheese melted, and some kind of boiled dough worked out. So I thought that Ariete would save me.
mur_myau
Quote: Astilba
rectangular pizza oven Alpina
Has she already been discussed here in the topic? (not to search) Is this a built-in stove?
Masinen
I did not find this ariete on ozone.
Elena, it's like a ferrari or bestron. It looks similar.
mur_myau
Masinen,
That is, desktop, only square?
But there was also a square one at the very beginning of the topic. they are similar, it turns out?
And I saw Tanyulya's built-in video on YouTube (under the oven). There is another, it turns out.
Masinen
This is round))
And Tanya has a type of oven))
Alex100
Alpina seems to me, this is what it meant, well, or similar

Electric oven with stone for pizza ALPINA SF-6012
🔗
Masinen
So she has a low temperature, only 250 g

My Bork mini-oven has a pizza mode and the temperature is also 250 grams.
Pchela maja
Interesting pizza recipes, you need to take note))
🔗
mur_myau
Masinen,
What type of oven is it called?

Alex100,
Thank you! I'll see what kind of gravicap. By the way, she has a temperature like a princess.
Astilba
Quote: Aleksaniko

Astilba, Hello! So, shouldn't you buy Ariete? Doesn't bake pizza very well? I have already set my sights (((With the Princess I didn’t work twice ... The top didn’t bake at all, only the cheese melted, and some kind of boiled dough worked out. So I thought that Ariete would save me.
Aleksaniko, I bought a pizza oven Alpina (made in switzerland) a few years ago .. she bakes pizza perfectly well but my passion for researching new kitchen devices pushed me to buy Ariete:
And if we compare these two devices in terms of baking pizza, then Alpina is out of competition, because she bakes quickly, beautifully and with a crispy crust around the edges (as I like), due to the low-lying powerful top heating element and high-quality baking stone (goes included).
But, I do not regret at all that I bought Ariete too .. in terms of weight and mobility, it is lighter and simpler than Alpina, and it does an excellent job with a variety of everyday baked goods .. its only disadvantage is that it bakes longer.
Astilba
Alpina seems to be on sale here .. if the link is not out of date ..
🔗
mur_myau
Astilba,
The site has not been updated since 2009.
Astilba
Quote: mur_myau

Astilba,
The site has not been updated since 2009.
below it is written 2009-2015 ...
mur_myau
Astilba,
News section of the site, there is the last one for 2009. And the prices are roughly the same. I think they just pay for hosting, because 2015.
Correct if I'm wrong. Who is from Obninsk? There is a phone, how can I check if they work or not?
Astilba
Quote: mur_myau

Astilba,
News section of the site, there is the last one for 2009. And the prices are roughly the same. I think they just pay for hosting, because 2015.
Correct if I'm wrong. Who is from Obninsk? There is a phone, how can I check if they work or not?
Yes. it is likely that the store is no longer open
mur_myau
Astilba,
Yes, probably...

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