shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Already, as it were, I was sharing, the most concrete thing. this is a bar for editing dangerous razors, of course, for crazy money you can buy something cooler, but for normal ones it's straight
Zena
Quote: Bijou
And unwillingness to cheat on the adored Santoku.
AAAAA .. well, I would say so right away ..
I have a love on kufna and I'm not going to change it .. so .... easy flirting ... glances at photos of other knives

Quote: Bijou
and resharpened for this money the entire knife park in the house. Even Santoku did not spare her.
presented ...

I took out all the knives and let's sharpen .. sharpen .. and ... and they bam and ended all ... stupid ...


Quote: Bijou
I knew that you would say something nasty right now!


Quote: dopleta
But the very complete set! With all the podvyperdy and even fish devices

on the lope of persons? amount???
well ... check
Bijou
Quote: Zena
well ... check
Checkout is to ask the price. At least on the Internet. I just asked and now I hiccup.
Quote: Zena
I have a love on kufna and I'm not going to change it .. so .... easy flirting ... glances at photos of other knives
Here! You understand me.

I don’t pay very dearly for knives, but if you count, I donated money for samples, then I gave away what I bought, so it would be better to immediately buy some Japanese for a crazy price. But here, too, there is an ambush - and what if it "doesn't fit in my hand"?

Twisted the biggest in the hands of Fiskars. But he is in a blister in the store, and I could not figure out if I would like this raised handle? The impression is that it is convenient for cutting on a low table, but I have all the countertops high ... And it seemed too light, again ... It seems uncomfortable, like an iron that is too light.

This Victorinox, which is the Chef, has too different photos on the sites of our market. And I liked one single model. Well, how do I order, I will pay for the shipment, and after unpacking it will turn out to be "wrong"?
Zena
Quote: Bijou
I just asked and now I hiccup.


Quote: Bijou
Well, how do I order, I will pay for the shipment, and after unpacking it will turn out to be "wrong"?
Lenus .. you still have kids .. but since the wrong coat .. then you put it in the box .. on the box you write the dowry for .... and you will send this knife with a child to marry




By the way, I'm collecting my own box ...
what I throw to him too ..
me and my gypsy
Bijou
Zhenya, well, as an option.

By the way, this new steel "bar" sharpened century-old knives that were lying around and used for anything but cutting food. And now such a pleasant ease of cutting has formed in them that I have gathered this herd in one holder in the yard and I sit like a knot, I’m greedy - I don’t let my husband clean the wires with them or cut the reinforced hoses, as before.

But, having become sharp, they did not learn to be comfortable, that's what the grief is ...
Bijou
Quote: Bijou
Well, everything, I ordered myself a couple of small potatoes to peel.)) According to the action in Citylink. It is tempting that they promise thin ones, we will check.
The third day I check.
I can’t say anything for sure. It seems, yes, thin. The newspaper is being planed, this is a plus. When peeling, the potatoes creak and go in micro rushes - this is a minus. I mean, I have knives that cut smoother. But it is pleasant to cut a potato in the palm of your hand, because it is thin and good mixing. The onion is cleaned well, but it is cut poorly - it also crunches with micromachines, and in general, it is much more convenient and faster to chop the onion with a large knife.

I haven't decided on the pen yet ... It seemed to be very convenient at first, now it seems thin, what will happen in a week - no one knows. In principle, I do not regret that I ordered.Maybe I'll fix something later by sharpening or editing. Or maybe I'll order something else.

I ordered my daughter Santoku Centuri from Tramontina on Ozone. Until I cut anything, the hostess is waiting, but at first glance my old one is better mixed. Although not in an elegant gift box like this one, but in a budget cardboard sheath. ((
Zena
Quote: Bijou
I can’t say anything for sure.
Flax, I only peel an onion with vegetables, and shred with a large one .. in this you are right! the big ones are much more convenient .. the little ones do not have enough strength .. I can peel the potatoes with them, nothing bothers me .. but again he has no strength to cut in half.
well, a small knife dirty dog help no more. ... BUT! they like to remove the skin from the chicken .. tiny, thin .. convenient ..
Quote: Bijou
Ordered on Ozone Santoku Centuri daughter from Tramontina
looked in the internet .. beautiful .. I took Victorinox into my hands at the exhibition .. I tried to cut it, I can't .. not my format ..
Although I really like this shape ..
Len, are you used to it right away?
I bought a Tramontinka before Viktorinoks .. well, nothing like that .. I got blunt .. I didn't want to carry it into the sharpener .. there are awesome attachments, but the handles of the master do not grow from there .. after sharpening it, my two favorite knives just broke .. blade separately handle separately .. I don’t go to him anymore .. but on others I walked .. there it’s just .. but not water sharpeners .. I felt sorry for the knives ... I don’t know .. where to find a craftsman in my city ..
But, I sharpened it with new sharpeners that I bought .. You know, like a new one .. and again we work together .. alternating with Victorinox .. they are both comfortable for me in my hand ..
True after sharpening .. Victorinox "bit" me and Tramontinovsky's son .. now we are marked
Anna67
Quote: Zena
not my format ..
Although well, I really like this form
It's almost the same for me. Two knives (not even a santoku, but a vegetable nakiri and an equally thicker hatchet disappeared in the bowels of the kitchen).
Somehow a knife is only used to slice certain foods in a certain way. Moreover, it is so rare that I do not remember what exactly it was convenient for them. Because the santoku has a narrow edge, you can reach the bulb under the palm of your hand, but the nakiri ...
Kira_Sun
Quote: Bijou
On sharpeners ... I do not like this business, where you have to hold the angle yourself. A cheap machine with Ali solves the problem as a first approximation. And if you buy more correct sharpening bars for it, it's very good.))
Bijou, Lena, and it is possible in more detail about stanochek and correct blocks? I all want something like that, but I can't decide
Olechka.s
Quote: Kira_Sun
Biju, Lena, can you give more details about the machines and the right blocks? I all want something like that, but I can't decide
I subscribe to the question.
Bijou
Quote: Kira_Sun
Biju, Lena, can you give more details about the machines and the right blocks? I all want something like that, but I can't decide
A sharpener like this:

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True, I have another, plastic one. And the knife is attached differently.
And the bars for her are so gray that they are metal, and not made of ceramic abrasive:

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You can immediately set, you can find one by one and order only the necessary ones. I have a thousand, I'm going to buy more grit (2000) and less (600) for it. Smaller for a specific sharpening with a change in angle, and higher for finer finishing. But I have sharpened the whole house with this thousand-meter.))) True, he died the death of the brave on this field, so it's still worth buying.

Quote: Zena
Although I really like this shape ..
Len, are you used to it right away?
Instantly !!! After him, everyone else seems uncomfortable. It is perfectly balanced, it cuts itself straight.)) And I like the length, it does not require huge boards, like a traditional European chef. It is more convenient for them to cut from top to bottom, vertically lifting the entire knife. The blade itself descends onto the board, cutting the product, it is almost even.

Personally, I'm not particularly comfortable with slicing a European, when you don't take the tip off the board and swing your wrist. I can do that, but I don't like it.I use it only when the mountains of greenery are frozen shredded on a huge polypropylene board.
And if you cut by the chef, like a santoku, then why such an inconvenient length? ))
Kalyusya
Quote: Bijou
A sharpener like this:

Lenaaaa, I only know the bars. And, no, still such a whack-whack well ... you get the idea.

I'm in ommarak. here.
Bijou
Quote: Kalyusya
I'm in ommarak. here.
Come out of there right now !!
It's so elementary - to sharpen with such a thing that I don't even know how to say otherwise.)) No, of course, there are more thoughtful solutions, for example, like this distinguished gentleman (by the way, he is also a participant here):
Kitchen knives, meat hatchets
With setting fractions of a degree for sharpening:
Kitchen knives, meat hatchets
But this is such a level of perfectionism that I never dreamed of.

And such an unnecessary sharpener "in imitation of Apex" is just a salvation for ordinary housewives who do not want to bother with water stones or expensive sharpeners.
Kalyusya
Quote: Bijou
just a salvation for ordinary housewives
Ha, I couldn't even imagine such torturous constructions. Previously, my father was engaged in knives, and then she began to wear knives to work.

Nonsense
People, does anyone know what these knives are - "marmo-bio"? Enlighten the wretched, pliz!
Creamy
A woman is transforming, a woman is gradually transforming ... It seems to me alone that a modern woman is evolving in an interesting direction?
dopleta
Quote: Nonsense
what are these knives
Suspiciously cheap Natasha ... Touched by the characteristic: "do not leave a metallic taste."
Bijou
Quote: Creamy
It seems to me alone that the modern woman is evolving in an interesting direction?
Remembering the impressive list of your own inventions (and tools), you should be sure of this for sure!
Igrig
Quote: Nonsense
does anyone know what these knives are - "marmo-bio"
I did not even find in the search that they are now being sold somewhere. Only old ads.
I must say right away that I do not have such knives, but the conclusion, albeit superficial, suggests that some kind of Teflon coating with a marbled pattern was applied. Apart from the effect of novelty to attract attention, this does not provide any advantages. Steel, for sure, is frankly bad, the coating will wear off over time and "taste of metal will appear on the products"!
In the 90s, the spouse, succumbing to aggressive advertising on the counter, bought a set with a titanium coating !!! Firstly, the serrated sharpening is very strange, the teeth are the same size as a normal saw! Secondly, since they did not cut normally ANYTHING initially, they did not use them. Only one small knife is in active use now: his wife pierces potatoes and other vegetables with it to determine readiness. After all, there is a strict ban on sticking more or less good knives into hot products!
Nonsense
Thanks for answers! This means nonsense! For the price I understand that it's not nice, but I believe in fairy tales. But what if...
Crochet
Friends, can you please tell me if there are sharpeners for high-quality sharpening of ceramic knives at home?

Or with this only to the workshop?
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Son, my \ sous chef of a restaurant chain \ against ceramics, well, not a house, but at work, at least even with the so-called neutrality to oxidation, they do not justify themselves, some cool cook came to them to give a master class, and so he cut with metal \ except for fish for rolls \ and to the question, why so, he rounded his eyes - but the meaning

well it is - reflections out loud

In fact, sharpening, especially at home, is a completely unrealistic task. If in the store you are offered a sharpener complete with a knife at the price of a burning tour to Hawaii, then you better refuse to buy. This is just a commercial and advertising move. The idea of ​​sharpening at home must be abandoned. No amount of sharpening will help a dull person. Ceramics in production conditions are sharpened by craftsmen using diamond pastes, diamond discs, on special equipment. It is unlikely that you have workshops in the area that have such a technique.
Crochet
Quote: shade
It is unlikely that you have workshops in the area that have such a technique.

Yes, of course, where did we get them from?

So you need to get ready for Moscow.

Anatoly, thank you very much !!!

Quote: dopleta
Will not disappoint, absolutely! I have it at work too

Larochka, do you still use yours?
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Inna--

Yes, and in Moscow, you need to be careful to look for workshops \ at least according to reviews \ from large firms

I can say right away that the Tochka-Sharpening firm has nothing to do with the son, they seem to sharpen everything up to the plowshares
maybe they are sharpened well, but the ceramics were not sharpened well, that is, with thin cutting, the knife seemed to go to the top, and the pieces were not even

Crochet
Quote: shade
look for workshops from large firms

Anatoly, I was planning to contact a specialized sharpening workshop Samura).

I don't know if it still exists. Previously, it was definitely).

I'll go look for information on the Samura website.
Twig
Does anyone have Victorinox forged knives? Will they be very different from ordinary rolled steel?
I saw a set (at a discount) of forged knives, I want to and prick.
I ordered Grandfather Frost
Umka
All TRICKS !!!
Quote: Twig
I ordered Grandfather Frost
Twig, do not forget to pay coins to Grandfather when receiving a gift.
$ vetLana
Quote: Twig
Does anyone have Victorinox forged knives
I have (one), ideal for vegetables. I posted a photo in this thread.
Twig
I wanted such a set

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22 thousand, like a nice discount. But I don't like this stand. I started counting separately. For almost the same amount, you can buy all the knives separately. I'm right in the air.
Now I want a simpler set, a fork-knife and musat. With ordinary plastic handles.

In general, I ordered a car on NG to Santa Claus (as a joke), but he told me that something would crack at me

Kalyusya
Quote: Twig
In general, I ordered a car on NG to Santa Claus

Yesterday I made New Year's wishes, and today my lip cracked in the cold.
I got the hint.
Twig
Very good discounts for Victorinox on Ozone. I think the carriage will turn into a pumpkin at night. Cyber ​​Monday. Discounts were lower yesterday. Bread knife 1300 small knives about 200, sirloin about 1t.
Rada-dms
Advise not very long Victorins model. I bought it for 20 cm, it is inconvenient for me to use. I would be grateful.
dopleta
Olya, what advice do you need? 20 cm is a chef's, big. I have one with both a plastic and a wooden handle. But there are 18, and 15 and 12. You can choose which one is preferable to you. Look in the article for the last two digits, they mean the length: 5.1803.12 (15, 18).
$ vetLana
Olya, I have 18 with a plastic handle (on the left in the pictures). I think this will suit you. But I also like 20 for vegetables.

Kitchen knives, meat hatchets

Kitchen knives, meat hatchets
Rada-dms
dopleta, Well, thank you! I haven't finished it, if we talk about the last figure!
Something began to love shorter knives, but my cook's German is excellent.
He has a cool handle shape, although a little heavy.




$ vetLana, I'll look for 18 cm. Thank you!
dopleta
At 18 there is also a little bit with a different handle and blade, I also have one
Kitchen knives, meat hatchets
Rada-dms
dopleta, but mainly for what do you use it?
Zena
Quote: Rada-dms
but mainly for what do you use it?
wait listen, this question interests me very much!
I'm staring at this, but at the 16th blade, this size is for me!
dopleta
Olya, forgive me, missed the question, only thanks to Zhenya she saw new messages. Although I have no concrete answer to you, girls - I use all the knives (I seem to have all the lengths of the quiz, from the frivolous short to the longest) somehow intuitively: when something needs to be cut or cut, the hand itself chooses a knife needed for this purpose.
Zena
I also love the shorty, I peel potatoes for them and remove the skin from the chicken, he is constantly in use.
Lorochka, is the sirloin convenient?
dopleta
Yes, Zhenya, it's convenient for me. Very often it is necessary to cut into thin slices (salt fish, dry basturma), and in such situations it is indispensable.
Papaverinka
Hello I was looking, I was looking (maybe I was looking badly) what you write about a saw knife from Berner. I bought it a long time ago, even when I was in euphoria from the berner vegetable cutter and something did not work out for us.I tell my husband that it is terribly convenient, I can’t tell him that the knife for this price is frank ... He has a plus - he cuts the tomatoes thinly evenly, when he doesn't want to get the vegetable cutter. And I cut their bread - I don't have a bread knife, and the bucket at the bread machine is high - just under such a loaf "chopped". But frozen salmon saw-sawn, or meat - and somehow it does not impress, I am exhausted all. And how beautifully it was written - everything will be cut through, even the frozen product. And how are you?




And I'll also tell you about my recent acquisition - a samura slicer knife. At that time, I had a vegetable knife of the same series and ordered a slicer. Where were my eyes when I chose it? Apparently, they looked at the discount and saw nothing else. And so I get ... a saber! Blade 25cm! She hid him away. When she got away from the shock, she took it out and hung it up. The knife is terribly beautiful. Not even that ... He is SCARY handsome Even my husband was scared. But how he cuts !!! Chicken breasts along one stroke. Maybe I didn't have a suitable knife before him and there is something more modest and no less convenient for these purposes, but I am delighted with it. Definitely a knife to be
EffgeniyA
Ladies, on Beru. For several days there have been about 59% discounts on Samura. I found out about these discounts on one of the pages on Instagram and immediately went to the application to order, because I was just planning to buy new knives and studied this topic on this topic. When ordering, I used thanks bonuses and the promo code of the first order in the application. I took myself two sets: 4 pieces in the Samura Golf set and 5 pieces in Samura Harakiri. Taking into account all discounts, bonuses and promotional codes, I paid 3322 rubles for both sets.
Outcome:
1 delivery two days earlier than promised is a plus for sure.
2 Self-pickup with opening the parcel at the point of delivery - in a set of 5 knives, only 4 was available)) the smallest was missing but the packaging was factory sealed and no signs of opening were found - apparently, the packer did not report at the production.
Due to the low cost in general and not a special need for a small knife, I took the order, because I had no desire and patience to send the order back and wait for a decision)))
3 I just washed the knives and haven't used them yet, but the first impression is this: really very thin blades, at the moment sharp, even very)
From the impression produced, I can say that they are not worth more than they paid. I'll see how they behave in their work.
In any case, thanks for this topic - I already have some plans for the next purchases) And, probably, it is still harmful to be greedy in this matter))))
P.S. Added after a few days of use!
The blade under the handle is not rounded and very unsafe! Sharp, unprotected corner, you will cut yourself every time you use it. It is very difficult to adapt!
Gata
Girls who are familiar with Victorinox knives. I wanted to buy like the Chinese TsaiDao, but on the Victorinox website they are all hatchets, and TsaiDao, though outwardly and a hatchet, is still a knife, in the sense that it involves a different action and movement. I won't see them live anywhere, just order. Can someone tell me on this topic. Well, or take another company, but I want a good one ...
caprice23
Good afternoon, can someone who knows tell me There is a set of Wusthof knives. They are already three years old. At first, the sharpness was incredible, they were cut at once. During this time, the knives have never been sharpened, only they were sharpened with musat. The severity remained the same for a long time. But this summer I completely started knives, there are no rules and the result is not very pleasant. The knives have become noticeably dumber. I tried to correct them, but I cannot return them to their former sharpness. In my case, now only professional sharpening will help (I doubt that I will find it in our town) or can I do something else on my own?
If I'm writing on the wrong topic, please, where to write
dopleta
Quote: Gata
who is familiar with Victorinox knives
Anya, apparently, has a question for me. Yes, you're right, Viktorinoksovskiye cleavers are different from such Chinese and Japanese knives. I know that the Japanese definitely have similar ones, I advise them to look.




Quote: caprice23
(I doubt that I will find in our town)
Natasha, in the town, maybe not, but on the internet you can find a professional system for sharpening knives, for example, this
Kitchen knives, meat hatchets # 286
Gata
Larissa, well, yes, probably to you, you are the best connoisseur of their knives. What Japanese do you advise to see? I looked in Samur - they already
caprice23
Quote: dopleta
Natasha, in the town, maybe not, but on the internet you can find a professional system for sharpening knives

Hmm, read that a sharpener for hard steel. Not hard on my knives, if I understand correctly. Although, I don’t understand
Can't you fix anything with musat? Or can you try? It's just that I'm such a sharpener, to be honest, I'm afraid. Can I handle it? Since prof. grinders, they say, are mowing, so where can I go? ...
dopleta
Quote: Gata
What Japanese do you advise to see?
Anh, I'm sorry, I'm not special here. I saw how they (the Japanese) masterfully cut out the thinnest "origami" of vegetables with these huge knives, but I will not advise a model - I am quite satisfied with the Victorinoks knife.
Gata
Larissa, but not like Tsai Dao, what do you think?

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I found a Victorinox store with us, but this particular cleaver is not there, that is, you cannot see it alive ...

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