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tatulya
There is a brute masculine strength for its delicate use. And can you still present the sensor to the world (in my face)? So that I can find it somewhere and order it.
Countryman
tatulya
Gotta shove in lying on its side in a pot of water ham munch like this is the temperature sensor
Homemade ham (collection of recipes for a ham maker)

Moreover, it is required to push it into the middle of the meat.

The main problem here is that the ham is on its side in the pot. For vertically standing full of standard variants of thermometers with a rigid sensor plugged into the meat and a display attached to it, located outside the water.
Homemade ham (collection of recipes for a ham maker)

For the lying person there are also very neat thermometers (for Ali ~ 90 rubles), but they are for aquariums and they have recommended measurement limit <+ 50C. More high-temperature and more accurate (~ 400 rubles) are also sold, but they are no longer powered by pill batteries, but as much as 12 volts from an external source, which must be purchased and selected separately.
Here it is, such a thermometer
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That is, all this is surmountable, but I would strongly advise you think about vertical placing a ham. In order not to breed further problems, including with tightness.
tatulya
Countryman, great salvation. I looked at such a thermometer (like yours in the second picture), but I doubted its extreme measurement results.
Homemade ham (collection of recipes for a ham maker)

That is, is this suitable?
If so, then it remains only to make a hole in the middle? And the pan in which we cooked the ham, it is quite possible to place a ham maker in an upright position. Such a large saucepan.
| Alexandra |
All with the come! Advise me pzhl, I ordered a Bosch 3100 combine, power 800, equipped with a knife and plastic kneader in the form of a knife, speed 2. The purpose of the purchase is to stir the meat for Teskoma in order to get a kind of ham and sausage products. The bulk of the meat will be elk. Will this suit me or not?
tatulya
By the way, it turned out something in between: the color is brown. I would like more fun, pink. Apparently they did not cope with the temperature. It's hard without a thermometer. The appearance is like a sausage, almost uniform in consistency (that is, the meat was probably cut too small), and the taste is very, very meaty.
| Alexandra |
I saw thermometers on ki, not expensive.


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Butterfly_74
Girls, please tell me where to look for recipes for ham with nitrite salt? There are so many things until I can master it, but I want to update the new moon present (ham maker) and the nitrite salt is in store ... maybe there is a section for such recipes? Thanks in advance!
julia_bb
Butterfly_74, take a look on the 1st page of the topic, there is a list of recipes, you can quickly select
shlyk_81
Butterfly_74, see the Mashinen recipes
Butterfly_74
Girls, thanks !!!
Minola
Hello! If it is not difficult for someone, explain how and why to use ice, or tell me how to drive in the search to this topic. I started reading from the very beginning, so far I have mastered 20 pages, and so there they are still preparing the ham as it is written in the instructions for the ham maker. And on the last pages, there is already a lot of new things for me: ice, a kneader, some kind of thread, nitrite salt ...
Or tell me at least for what year to look for messages when these technology improvements appeared.
To master the whole topic - this is at least another week for me.
Sorry, no longer necessary: ​​I found a separate topic here, where everything is explained.
Iskatel-X
Minola, the most basic:
- Ice, which will melt anyway, is needed to liquefy the mixture and better impregnate with spices, cool the mixture while stirring.
- Ice - add no more than 10% of the weight of the mixture.
- The temperature of minced meat during kneading should not exceed 12 degrees.
- 12 degrees during kneading is the temperature at which meat and fat remain one whole, higher - and they begin to have different structures, in other words, they are separated. Then, this leads, among other things, to the appearance of broth.
- From kneading warm meat - sausage and ham swelling occurs. It becomes drier.
andron
I also ordered a ham, I want to get off the purchased sausage with my family, because this is not comme il faut for ANDRYUSH))))
I have been making my own bread, for more than 4 years, I do not understand the taste of the purchased one at all. Unleavened, not tasty bread, I hope everything will be with the norms of ham.
Rarerka
Quote: andron
everything will be fine with ham
Even better
Lilyalili
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I had different ones, but this is something with something. True, I have it not so long ago and how durable it is, I do not know. But how convenient - no need to sit in the kitchen and watch the sausage. I put in the probes and browse the Internet or do your own thing - you can see everything on your phone and when the temperature reaches the desired values, a signal is heard from the phone ...
Countryman
LilyaliliAnd it shows me the temperature, and even supports the set by me - it controls the heating. I am not disturbed and without spending money on the phone. Once every couple of hours I drop in there to clear my conscience.
Chinese fee for 106 rubles and a power supply for it for 144 rubles.
Pakat
Also, the head and hands are not Chinese ...
natushka
Quote: Countryman
Chinese fee for 106 rubles and a power supply for it for 144 rubles.
How to do it? With a photo, please
Countryman
Natalia, look.
The diagram consists of two parts. Low voltage (12 v) - controlled from a temperature sensor and controlled high voltage (220 v), through which the electric stove is powered from the network, on which the pan is located.
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In the end, the whole thing assembled looks something like this
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After three months of use, the eight-liter saucepan was additionally dressed in a shirt and a hat made of three layers of an old woolen blanket, which reduced the average electricity consumption of the tiles to less than 100 watts, that is, like a regular light bulb.

If the enthusiasm has not disappeared yet, then I can further give a list of components with links, etc.
natushka
Quote: Countryman
I can further give a list of components with links, etc.
of course
Countryman
Should buy

1. Thermostat board
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or try to find on Ali from another seller for 10-15 rubles. cheaper.

2. Power supply unit. This one will do


3. Two power outlets are the simplest (I took 25 rubles at Leroy Merlin)

4. One and a half or two meters of flexible electric wires together with a mains plug or a plug separately, so that later to mount to it.

5. Any relay from Zhiguli (VAZ), preferably with a fastening piece of iron for a screw on the case.
And a terminal block for this relay. A relay socket is like a bulb holder. All wires go to the block, and then it is simply inserted into the relay.
Sold in any auto parts store.
(The photo shows the number of the relay that I use, but this is not so important, almost all are suitable).

How to set the thermostat with its buttons for operation is written in its description, if necessary, I will send a copy.

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My version of building a circuit in two parts:
low-voltage signal and high-voltage power, allows you to minimize the risk of electric shock and even do without a housing for the thermostat board. There are no voltages higher than 12 volts safe for humans.

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Relay
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Note. In the photo of how this was done, I have two power supplies - each in its own outlet. This is not because it is necessary, but simply was done from what was. One unit that was available gave a very stable voltage for the thermostat board, but it didn’t have enough strength (only 0.1A) to flip the VAZ relay. And my other PSU had enough power, but the voltage was unstable and not suitable for the board.
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Dara
Thanks to everyone who contributed to the theme and recipes.

My ham: pork shoulder, 1/4 part through a meat grinder, suneli hops, nitrite, dried tomatoes and garlic.

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Tumanchik
I wanted to bake the ham, not boil it. and the question became: can Belobok go to the oven then?
Anchic
Irishkina, sure you may. What will she do there? She's made of stainless steel.
Pakat
Quote: Tumanchik

I wanted to bake the ham, not boil it. and the question became: can Belobok go to the oven then?
In no case!
Although I have been doing this for many years, you better not try ...
Countryman
Irishkina, in my experience, when baking, spices should be reduced by about 20-25%. True, I used the airfryer, not the oven.
Tumanchik
Anna, Thank you!
Paul,
now I will definitely bake! otherwise you will overeat into one face. and we need him!
Quote: Countryman
in my experience, when baking spices should be reduced by about 20-25%.
here is a pancake is already a ham seasoned in the refrigerator. ripens
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Ira, Do not be scared. Do you do it according to the norm / taste? So everything will be normal.
Tumanchik
Ksenia,
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Hello. Can you please tell me how to cook ham in an ordinary pressure cooker? I would like not to completely fill with water, but just a little, as the owners of the airfryer write. So it is possible? And how long to keep? Pork breast meat.
Tumanchik
Natasha, aren't you afraid to ruin the cup? I noticed that the programs for a couple spoil the bowl very much
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Ir, you read it inattentively - I'm asking about the SIMPLE pressure cooker, not the MBC.
I have a common Soviet, aluminum pressure cooker. I would like in it (and not in the oven and not in the multicooker)

As for cooking on steam in a slow cooker - how many pies, gingerbread and cutlets on steam have I prepared-ah ... and the bowl is in order.
Tumanchik
Natasha, sorry. really didn't read it carefully))))))))
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Here ... there is a seasoned ham in the fridge and I don't know what to do with it
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Natasha, what kind of ham? And with what salt? With the usual? No nitrite?
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Ksyusha, Endever ham maker, 1.5 kg. Yes, no nitrite.




I saw this information in the open spaces:
"They poured about 3 cm of water into the pressure cooker (which Misha Gorbacheva remembers when he was still young), put a 'tin can' and closed it. 1 hour from the whistle."
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Eedever, is that like Beloboka? I think you can cook in a pressure cooker. Only the meat did not come out, however dry. Juices under pressure I think will come out to the maximum.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
And how then should you cook so that it is not dry? There is a slow cooker, oven.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Natasha, I saw clarifications in your post. Can try though. What if you like it? If not, then you will know for sure that it is not your method. I boiled Beloboku in water all the time, as the instructions say. Once baked in the airfryer. But with a container of water below. There is no need to strictly observe the temperature without nitrite. Because it can ride.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Why did I go to spiritualize them ...
I read some more - in the oven, in a bowl of water. Today I will do it in the pressure cooker, and next time in the oven.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
I put a ham maker in an ordinary, Soviet pressure cooker (just got up under the lid) Poured some water on the bottom (about 4 centimeters somewhere) I screwed on the lid. I put it on a medium light. When the valve worked, I reduced the flame to the smallest. The timer is set to 50 minutes. Then she released the pressure, took out the ham. Chilled at room temperature and put in the refrigerator overnight. Today we tasted it. What can I say ... the stores have lost one more buyer of sausages))) It was decided to go further, in search of new options for home delicacies.
Thanks to the forum.
Homemade ham (collection of recipes for a ham maker)
Homemade ham (collection of recipes for a ham maker)
Helen
Quote: ANGELINA BLACKmore
What can I say ... the stores have lost another buyer of sausages)))
superb ham !!!
ANGELINA BLACKmore
I was VERY afraid that it would not stick together and would fall apart. And she's so well cut, my dear))) It was possible to lay it even thinner.
Tumanchik
Natasha, great ham! Congratulations! shop sausage rows - yesFay dAssvidaniya))))
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Tumanchik
shop sausage rows - yesFay dAssvidaniya))))

Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Natasha, well, that's how wonderful. A very good cut. Now we will know that this method takes place. Thank you.

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