Homemade ham (collection of recipes for a ham maker)

The main thing is to start a shredder - we will think of everything else !!)))
Already a bunch of people were confused by this shredder, everyone sharply wanted real meat ham)))

Sveta, an excellent cure for ulcers and gastritis - honey on an empty stomach! Personally verified

And also, I looked - the height of the shredder is 19 cm, and my pan is the highest - 17.5 along the edge. Does this not work, or is it minced there not to the top?

[Doxy]

Doxy, Vera, thanks for the advice about honey, I'll try it first on my gastritis. And I went in a personal, otherwise I flood here already ...

Yeah, now they will sweep it out with a broom))))

Tanya, at Teskoma, the meat should be 2 cm below the edge. I think in iron the same recommendations. 19 cm is the height of the iron glass or the whole structure?

Probably all, it’s written like this is not clear:
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[Tatyana]

For this kind of cooking, I specially bought a small electric stove (glass ceramics), in which you can set the temperature from 60 to 250 * C, convenient manual adjustment.

Tatyana, what kind of tiles did you buy?
I looked through everything again, but did not find it, has anyone already laid out the dimensions of Teskomovskaya ham? If not, please tell me the height and diameter

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, what kind of tiles did you buy?

I recently bought this Endever Skyline DP-16 ceramic hob 🔗



Power - 200-1800 W
Safety - Child Lock, Overheat Protection, Auto Power Off
Timer - up to 180 minutes
Additionally
Residual heat indicator
Rated voltage: 220-240V
Temperature range: 60-280 ° C
Surface material: glass ceramic
Working surface diameter: 12-24 cm
Microprocessor control
Cooking time adjustment
Backlit touchscreen digital display
Smooth stepless adjustment of all parameters
High-quality glass-ceramic hob

I specially chose that the minimum temp was 60 * C and there was a smooth temperature control

the size of Teskomovsky ham maker? If not, please tell me the height and diameter

inner diameter 10.5cm, height with legs 16.5cm, inner height 15.5cm.

Tatyana, indeed, the dimensions are not entirely clear, but if we reason logically, then 19 is exactly the height of the glass, since the volume of biovines should be one and a half times larger than the teskoma, it is designed for 1.5 kg of meat!

[Admin]

Admin, Tatiana, thank you!

I looked at her and at Shteba NK20, this one is 2 times cheaper, which is already nice. But I did not dare to take it without reviews.
Have you already tried to cook, and can it really withstand temperature and stepless adjustment?
Sorry, if not on the topic, then send me to the topic where you can discuss this, read
There is induction, you need a "simple")))

Doxy, Vera, thank you!

Eh, it will not fit into the bowl of Shteba, it is 13 cm high, if only you find a pan of the same diameter, but with mother-of-pearl buttons but higher ...
Probably better tile + saucepan

Eh, it will not fit into the bowl of Shteba, it is 13 cm high, if only you find a pan of the same diameter, but with mother-of-pearl buttons but higher ...
Probably better tile + saucepan

Dances with tambourines. In this case, Beloboka rules!

Listen, I don’t find it problematic to cook on gas. I only turned down the heat twice and for more than forty minutes the arrow on the thermometer has been holding at 82C, as if glued.

Eh, it won't fit into the bowl of Shteba, it is 13 cm high,

I'm going to cook at Shteba with the lid open. There, just 1cm below the edge is obtained.

Dances with tambourines.In this case, Beloboka rules!

I tried to buy Belobok 3 times, then they ran out, that is, "there is in St. Petersburg, and then only Redmond, take it" nafih me the same thing, but in a different box and 2 times more expensive? then pickup is far away, and delivery is expensive ...
Apparently, not destiny, I will take Tekomu, the more I like it more and more, and I also like to dance

Listen, I don’t find it problematic to cook with gas.

Do you think it is worth putting gas into the house?

I'm going to cook at Shteba with the lid open. There, just 1cm below the edge is obtained.

There, just 1cm below the edge is obtained.

I have a pot of 6.5 liters, so the shredder got there like a native! In exactly 1 cm to the edge, and water almost to the eye of the pan. But due to the fact that it does not boil, you do not have to worry that it will splash out. In short, while the flight is normal.

[Admin]

Admin, Tatiana, thank you!

I looked at her and at Shteba NK20, this one is 2 times cheaper, which is already nice. But I did not dare to take it without reviews.
Have you already tried to cook, and really it can withstand temperature and stepless adjustment?

Still in the package. This week I will bring a ham maker from Moscow (already delivered to the address) and then I will try everything together - I will definitely share my impressions

Do you think it is worth putting gas into the house?

And for some reason I forgot that there are also electric stoves! Gee ...

Still in the package. This week I will bring a ham maker from Moscow (already delivered to the address) and then I will try everything together - I will definitely share my impressions

I will wait

And for some reason I forgot that there are also electric stoves! Gee ...

Well, I don’t have a stove, so I threw out the induction stove a long time ago. Nafikh is she with 3 multicooker and other gadgets? But how much space was freed up!

Still in the package. This week I will bring a ham maker from Moscow (already delivered to the address) and then I will try everything together - I will definitely share my impressions

This tile makes a noise like a helicopter: they bought it in the office, but could not use it - they handed it back. Maybe we got this

Then we are waiting for a review also on tiles.

This tile makes a noise like a helicopter: they bought it in the office, but could not use it - they handed it back. Maybe we got this

Check, listen, touch, draw conclusions
In principle, I bought tiles for certain purposes, not to use them every day, and put them on the loggias. If the tile suits the requirements that I want to see, it will live
I cook on a gas stove, it helps a lot at the cost of gas. And I'm even frankly glad that I have a gas stove, and I can afford not to depend completely on electricity.
And our electricity is very expensive, 4-60 kW. , and may increase from June - so you won't run away, the cost per month bites And to spend just like that, thoughtlessly, there is no desire

I tried to buy Belobok 3 times, then they ran out, that is, in St. Petersburg,

I can give a tip (850 rubles each)
And, by the way, the ham maker does not need another stove, it is quite friendly with the induction, because the main thing is that the pan fits, and not its contents

I can give a tip (850 rubles each)
And, by the way, the ham maker does not need another stove, it is quite friendly with the induction, because the main thing is that the pan fits, and not its contents

Thank you! If I think about it, I'll ask you in a personal
I'm not really looking for a ham maker, I have dishes, including a Turk, which the induction machine doesn't see, and I'm not ready to throw it away (the dishes)

This tile makes a noise like a helicopter: they bought it in the office, but could not use it - they handed it back. Maybe we got this

again to Stebu what to watch

[Lettera]

Lettera, I have two Brazilian ceramic turks, I bought a special. the disc is an adapter, only not so fast it turns out on it, but for Turkish coffee it's even a plus!
Moreover, on the Siemens induction domino, it perfectly lies to itself and heats up everything that is on it.I brought it to the dacha, tried it on Kromax tiles, so the tiles overheated, and inside the spiral it cracked. In this regard, I bought an electric device for making Turkish coffee Arcelik.
Very satisfied, light, comfortable and the coffee is good !!
By the way, in the absence of all kinds of multicooker, while visiting, Su repeatedly cooked a kind of dish on an induction cooker, attaching a thermometer to the pan, in 1 and 1.5 divisions. The temperature all the time fluctuated within 72-79.
Now, by the way, I sit and pass the ham, it is being cooked on the stove.

Girls, if you have golden male hands, you can construct a ham press from scrap materials
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Verochka, if it's not difficult to copy, drop the translation into my PM. Something the translator doesn't want to work for me at all ...

Natasha, what exactly do you want to translate? Try through 🔗
It seems to me that the most acceptable and low-cost design is


pan, cylinder, press lid, can of water, elastic band from the car tube (for additional pressure).

The rest of the part requires not so much translation as a detailed examination by a "handy" person of the pictures, which show the construction of the screw press.

Thank you. I've already tried to translate everything. Apparently, you will have to reinstall the laptop.
I sent the link to the "rukasty", let him translate and understand!

it is possible to design a ham press from scrap materials
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I'm already doing a similar one. Based on my three years of experience with Beloboka. I liked some of the solutions from the link. Perhaps I will even use them.
There is also an idea at the very bottom of the ham maker to make a separate insertable movable bottom on the supports so that there is a small gap there. Heating will be more correct, and a fitting from a car tire can be soldered to the glass at the level of the gap. Then the pressure there, into the gap, gave - the finished ham itself will pop out of the ham maker.

(And the homemade "sausage" mold - tomorrow I will test it for the second time. Then another stage of revision is planned, upon completion I will post a description here.)

Well, here I am with a ham. I bought a BIOWIN shredder.

I purchased the thermometer separately. The description stated the height of 19 cm.And my maximum height of the pan is 17.5 cm.But, having received it, I measured it, and it turned out that the height of the glass itself to the top lid is 16.5 cm.Yes, you probably need to fill it not quite to the top, there must be a place for the compressed spring. So my pan, I think, will be tall enough. Since I'm completely new to the ham and sausage business, please help me figure it out.
1) Before reaching about how many centimeters from the height of the glass should you fill?
2) This ham maker has no legs, it will be placed with its bottom right on the bottom of the pan, so there will be a gas burner fire right above the ham. I was already advised to put a silicone support under the hot on the bottom of the pan, and put a divider on the burner. Will this be enough. I have a metal grate on legs about 1.2 cm high. I can put it on the bottom of the pan, and already on top of a ham (if instead of a silicone mat). Is this a working option?
3) A thermometer of Polish firm STALGAST, purchased separately, has a probe length of 16 cm. The photo shows that if you insert it all the way into the nest of a ham maker, it will not reach the bottom of a centimeter by 1.5-2. I read that it is desirable to measure in the middle of a piece. But I also read that in some thermometers the sensor takes only a few cm at the end of the probe, and in some it is long and it is necessary to stick the probe at least 2/3. As in this thermometer, it is not known, because the sensor is not visible, and there was no instruction for it. If 2 cm from the bottom is not enough, then I can pull it out to the required height by placing foam plastic or something else on top under the cap.
4) In the recipes that came with the ham, potassium nitrate appears. I would not want extra chemistry, but googling, I found out that it is, in principle, in such micro doses, that it is, in principle, nonsense, especially since it was added when cooking sausages, fish, ham even in tsarist times. So, the question is where you can buy it. Precisely food, because there is also such a fertilizer, but this is a completely different thing.
5) And another question, probably stupid: Water in the pan - should it not cover the top lid of the ham maker? And then there is a hole for a thermometer, it will pour inside.

1.2 centimeters
2. A legged grill is preferred.
3. The thermometer can be easily checked by hand - pinch the tip with your fingers and watch the reaction of the arrow. There is no need for styrofoam, just stick the thermometer to the desired depth.
4. If the meat is from the store, you can do it without saltpeter, it extends the shelf life and kills any byaka in untested meat.
5. The water should slightly overlap the level of the meat and should not be poured into the glass!

Congratulations on the purchase of such a handsome man !!! Looks impressive !!

Tanya, how many springs are there? if you can take off the whole set :)) disassembled.

Angelica, in the first photo the whole set;)

I still see a spring in the flask :))

[Doxy]

Doxy, many thanks for such a clear point by point answer. Question on the first point. If it is 2 cm lower, then it turns out that, taking into account also the lattice support of 1 cm, the water level in the pan is maximum - 1-1.5 cm higher than the meat level. Is this normal? The meat will shrink there later.

Girls, in the first photo - this is the whole set, right. Nearby is a spring with a disc. It is placed on the meat and pressed on top with a lid on top. There, above the lid, what is visible is not a spring, it is, as it were, a stand on the legs with a ring on top and the thermometer's cap fits into this ring.
For the second day now I have been studying this Temko and looking for recipes. So far I started reading this Temko from the beginning, I have read 8 pages so far. But in those days, people made ham in the oven. Until I finished cooking in a saucepan with water, although I had already read about the cooking process in this way on the internet, so for now everything seems to be clear

Here I shot it still disassembled

Mona, even one centimeter will be enough - the meat will shrink in the process!
Now about the recipe and cooking in the pan

The recipe base is as follows:
into 10 parts of meat, 1 part of water (meat, it is better to cut into pieces, if you want sausage, chop it in a food processor with knives). I liked the ham without minced meat better, only pieces.
for 1 kg of meat - 16-20 grams of salt (and depends on salt, and on taste preferences)
Garlic to taste, but it is better to be careful and put 1 clove per 1 kg, not everyone likes the taste and smell of boiled garlic.
Any set of meat (chicken, pork, turkey, beef, lamb) is cut into pieces and marinated with different additives (time and method of pickling according to the recipe), then put into a shredder and pressed (standing) the longer the meat is pressed, the denser the finished product.
Basic cooking method:
After several boils, the ham came to the formula - 20 minutes kneading + 2-3 hours press + 3 hours of cooking + 30 minutes of cooling = 6-7 hours!
I start cooking with cold water; I put the shredder in a pot of tap water; I put the pan on the stove, on a minimum fire, after 20-30 minutes the water reaches a temperature of 80 ° C; after 2.5 hours of cooking I turn off, drain the hot water from both the shredder and the pan; I pour a cold one into a saucepan and put a shredder in it; after half an hour or an hour I either take out the ham and put it on the table, or put it in the refrigerator in a shredder.

Thank you .. I want her too .. and the tempest :))) into the hands of the grabbing .. I'll look at the tests .. I will choose .. or buy both)

Tanya, what a ham! I, too, could have acquired this. I didn’t like Beloboka and didn’t even look away. And this one is impressive!
Congratulations on your purchase!
How much is the opium for the people and where is it given?

Tanya, what a ham! I, too, could have acquired this.I didn’t like Beloboka and didn’t even look away. And this one is impressive!
Congratulations on your purchase!
How much is the opium for the people and where is it given?

Thank you Lenochka! I bought here
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And there is also, a little cheaper
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But it is where I ordered it, not complete with a thermometer, I had to buy it separately, it turned out more expensive. And then I found it with a thermometer and + with a set of ham bags, right here, but I already ordered it, so I didn't call there, I don't know if it is available.
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Mona, even one centimeter will be enough - the meat will shrink in the process!
Now about the recipe and cooking in the pan

Vera, thank you, it's a master class!
I’m already thinking about the aesthetics of the product. I read that they tint with pomegranate juice. But Hibiscus tea came to mind, can you brew it and pour in instead of water? He's so vigorous crimson.

Tanyushenka, dear! Happy shopping to you! so many goodies you will cook now! I throw my Beloboka to cook in Panas big. And yours will not work in the cartoon? I put a napkin in Panas, on it - sideways I put a ham and on Stewing.

Tanya, please! Before cooking, I studied all the ham and sausage materiel)))

I tried to dye the ham with turmeric - the meat mass was not dyed, there were only yellow streaks between the pieces, I did not like it. If you make sausage, then minced meat can probably be tinted. But it seems to me that the ham has a beautiful, natural pink color even without dyes, if it is not boiled ...

Tanyushenka, dear! Happy shopping to you! so many goodies you will cook now! I throw my Beloboka to cook in Panas big. And yours will not work in the cartoon? I put a napkin in Panas, on it - sideways I put a ham and on Stewing.

Thank you, Lyubasha! Mine will not fit, especially since its bottom is sideways, mine must be put in water and cooked at 80-85 degrees. In our dex60, by the way, there is an 80-degree mode, but it will not fit vertically if the current is with an open lid. But I will cook on the stove, especially since the gas, so the practice is free.

Tan .. gas if you have a counter (1.189) from 1.05 :)) // but without a counter, the old way .. burn how much ...

No, I have no counter!

then we rely on you .. write down, tell and show .. We will wait :))

Next week, I promise! I still have a sandwich maker, so sho, the tests of technology will be extensive!

[Mona1]

I still have a sandwich maker

Mona1, Tanya
Sandwich maker + ham is a scary thing




After 2 weeks of owning a sandwich maker, I had to abruptly move out to cabbage and apples, but I still can't stand it and gnaw a piece of boozer from my son

Nah, homemade ham is a dietary product! Well, what harm can there be from boiled chicken? Moreover, we have in our hands the amount of salt, and all sorts of olives, carrots, and the amount of fatty meat!
But the sandwich maker, really, terrible to grow Jo ...

After 2 weeks of owning a sandwich maker, I had to abruptly move out for cabbage and apples, but I still can't stand it and gnaw a piece of boozer from my son

Oh, Dzhulka, made fun ...
That is why I try to make ham at home when the bread runs out and do not bake bread if there is a freshly made ham in the refrigerator ...