Homemade ham (collection of recipes for a ham maker)

[šunkovar orion s teploměrem]

If there are criminal connections in the Czech Republic, you can order a similar shredder there - called šunkovar orion s teploměrem, costs around 400 kroons, which is about 700 rubles!

I myself am waiting for Teskomovsky šunkovar, it has an insert for a half portion, but it is plastic.

Hello. I'm new here. ordered Belobok, they will bring it tomorrow. So I'm studying the forum today.
Tell me, does anyone know where you can buy a pressure cooker like in a commercial from Beloboka? It is narrow and high, just under the ham, otherwise it does not fit vertically into the rest, but horizontally, this is wide-ranging. And since I don't have a pressure cooker yet, I'm looking for a suitable one.

And yet, where to find the catalog of the offered goods? I read below that somewhere there are buttons "Discounts Where to buy? Delivery and payment" "- but did not find them ...

[Vladikana]

Vladikana, Shtebu is well included.

[Vladikana]

Vladikana, Shtebu is well included.

And what’s Stebu? Pressure cooker, slow cooker or something else?
If a multicooker, then I have Panasonic, as many as 2 pieces .. I will not buy another one. But it will not go there .. I am looking for a pressure cooker

[Vladikana]

Vladikana, look at the column on the right. There's a cartoon pressure cooker Steba DD1

I looked. Thank you. But it's more like a multicooker ... I need to put such a colossus somewhere, but the kitchen does not allow for its size .. and so everything is made: a multicooker, a bread maker, a coffee machine, a cocktail binder, a deep fryer, etc. closet and does not interfere .. and this is a technique.

This saucepan is 3 in 1. I cook the ham for 20 minutes. Compote 5min. Buckwheat porridge 1 min. Chicken 20min. Etc.

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I'm looking for this type .. but in this one it is not clear what height. Only diameter specified

A-a-a, a shredder ponra-a-a-avila !!! I want!
Okay, I'll look the other day.
The question is: how to cook lipistric in a pressure cooker? What time is it? I have a white-sided one, but I don't use it often, I don't really like the heap of all kinds of pots. In the oven, too, it turns out half dry, half normal ... Or maybe just crooked hands ...

[Lily]

Lily, Drive into the sous-vide theme. In this way, it turns out exactly the store. Wet and not boiled, not baked. Namely ham

Look, I did this in a pressure cooker and a ceiling instead of a ham

Svetulya! Drooling already down the knees .... What a ham, yum-yum! I drove there, I'll look for happiness))) Thanks for the tip! I don't understand, I'll knock)

I'm waiting!

misterious Marina write to me also in a personal price and details of the purchase.

[Musenovna]

Musenovna, bukabuza , Katerina, Elena, sent you a personal message

[Doxy]

Doxy, well, for plastic, it seems to me 700 rubles is also not cheap. And somehow the plastic does not inspire me with confidence, it can of course in vain. Steel is still better

[lana19]

Look, I did this in a pressure cooker and a ceiling instead of a ham

lana19, and what kind of plafond is this?

[Doxy]

Doxy, well, for plastic, it seems to me 700 rubles is also not cheap. And somehow the plastic does not inspire me with confidence, it can of course in vain. Steel is still better

Marina, plastic is more expensive than iron (you missed the link to the iron shredder, it is he who costs 700 rubles)). I would have bought the iron myself, but my "connections" in Prague, the Teskomovsky store nearby, did not demand to look for an iron one. And I liked the possibility of a half portion in Teskomovskaya, in a word, I will try the plastic and unsubscribe. In any case, I trust Teskome and I don’t think they are using harmful plastic.

[Lily]

Lily, Drive into the sous-vide theme. In this way, it turns out exactly the store.Wet and not boiled, not baked. Namely ham

Light, wet and ham-like, it is obtained due to the temperature in which the ham (sausage, terrine) should be cooked. It seems to me that in an ordinary saucepan, having a thermometer, it is quite possible to cook, the main thing is to correctly set the power of the burner. Well, for now, I'm a theorist))) As I try, I'll unsubscribe and show myself!

In the description of cooking ham in a shredder, the cooking process is described as follows
48 hours of marinating under pressure in a shredder,
2 hours of cooking at 80 degrees
gradual cooling
A very beautiful pink sausage turns out

[Doxy]

Doxy, Vera, thanks, I really overlooked the link to the iron shredder. It seems to be made of stainless steel too. Do you accidentally know the exact name of the manufacturer and their website? And while I was looking among the many shredders, many times I came across situations when the material is steel in online stores, and aluminum is indicated on the manufacturer's website. I want to double-check

[šunkovar orion]

Marina at Orion two models

aluminum - without a thermometer, šunkovar orion
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steel - with a thermometer, šunkovar orion s teploměrem
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By the way, I found bags for a shredder in this store
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So they cook ham, anyway, in plastic ...

[Doxy]

Doxy, thanks for the link Prepare in packages, so that then somehow you can pull out the finished ham from the shredder. It seems that they say so. In the version of the shredder that I found, the design is more thoughtful, there you can pull the arms and pull out the ham with them, so you can cook without a bag, but it is also more expensive than Orion. Well, at least there is one more alternative, I will think and choose now.
Vera, I climbed on the site, it seems that Orion declares itself as a wholesale company with a chain of stores throughout the country. Do they make the goods themselves or do they buy from other manufacturers somewhere? Do not know? Is Orion a well-known company in the Czech Republic that has proven itself?

Orion is a Czech company, probably made in the Czech Republic, I cannot say unequivocally. Czechs have confidence in their products, they use their products without prejudice, including the Orion and Tescoma shredders.

In general, if you have friends permanently living there, you can ask to look there for a vintage aluminum shredder - a traditional appliance. It can be found on flea beetles. It costs a maximum of 100 rubles))) It looks like this


And yet, I have already written on many sites, the harmfulness of aluminum in the food industry is far-fetched! There are even special WHO recommendations on this matter.
If you don't remember the school curriculum, ask your children, schoolchildren, about aluminum oxidation - you will be very surprised))))

Vera, thanks Suggest a very worthy alternative I'll try to write off with Orion for sale to Russia and find out what and how

Under Soviet rule, all kitchen utensils in public catering were made of food grade aluminum. I myself have been using pots and a kettle for many years and they do not wear out.

Well, the fact that aluminum was widely used under Soviet rule is not at all an indicator for me. Far from everything that was done under Soviet rule was a blessing. As in other matters, they turn a blind eye to many standards. That is why you and I want to make homemade ham, and not buy ready-made in stores ... And again, aluminum dishes of the Soviet era and modern ones, too, are strife.
Sorry for the offtopic

[Vladikana.]

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I'm looking for this type .. but in this one it is not clear what height. Only diameter specified

Vladikana.
In fact, a pressure cooker is not needed at all for "white-sided". Experience shows that the cooking temperature should not be kept above 80 there. Otherwise, the ham turns out to be dry.

Three years ago I also suffered with the search for a saucepan that suits me. Optimizing the height-diameter ratio for minimum volume. Found only two suitable ones. But one of them, Vitessevskaya, was discontinued. And the other was not supplied to Russia.

I ended up spitting on this search and making the pot myself. I have been using it for the third year, everything is fine. Diameter 155 mm, height 210.
And the broth in such a saucepan after boiling the ham is also very fatty. There are two liters of it, or a little less.

(there is also a photo of the manufacturing process on the computer screen)
From the options I see - to find a suitable aluminum can from the Soviet, 5 liters, and cut off the neck of it in order to push the "white-sided" with the springs installed. Only here is such a pity the can, even if you find it.

[Konstantin]

Konstantin, as far as I understood from all the videos about cooking ham and sausages that were watched on YouTube, the main thing is that the water level reaches the level of meat, which means that any 3-liter saucepan is sufficient for cooking, no? Well, a ham sticks out of the water, it's not scary, because the main thing is that the meat is in the water, right?

Marina, most importantly, in any process - common sense and the absence of fanaticism, right?)))

Nina, our grandmothers and mothers, who did not think about the "correctness" of dishes, products and diet, will be healthier than us - definitely))))

Found the Polish twin of the Czech Orion - szynkowar biowin! We are looking for criminal connections in Warsaw))))


A shredder with hooks in Poland costs 200 zlotys, which translated into rubles ≈ 2500 rubles ... Do we need IT?
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Found the Polish twin of the Czech Orion - szynkowar biowin! We are looking for criminal connections in Warsaw))))

I wrote to 2 e-mails of the biovin company, which I found on their website, they did not answer a single letter.
The shredder with hooks for 2500 is the same German one, but from dealers.

Nina, our grandmothers and mothers, who did not think about the "correctness" of dishes, products and diet, will be healthier than us - definitely))))

So I'm not only a grandmother, but also a pro-grandmother)))) Yes, the moderators will forgive me for a deviation from the topic ...

I'll try to write to Orion for sale to Russia and find out what and how

Vera, they answered me from the official website of Orion, to which you sent me a link, they said that they would not send to Russia
It is necessary to write off in a row with all online stores where Orion shinkovars are sold

Marina, here is a link to a search engine for Czech shops, try to write off.
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Try to write in Czech, look for a translator from Russian to Czech.

and I wrote, they don't send to us either

Try to write in Czech, look for a translator from Russian to Czech.

I'll deal with this later. I wrote in Czech, I always translate my questions for sellers into their native language

Vera, in my Teskom store they offer to fulfill my order and bring a ham maker from the Czech Republic. Outwardly, I like plastic more. And for what reasons did you choose it?

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we have found this .. like 320g is worth .. Larissa - what do you think, is it worth squinting .. with an eye :))?

there is still a variety.

Vera, in my Teskom store they offer to fulfill my order and bring a ham maker from the Czech Republic.

Larissa, at what price are you offered to bring a plastic ham maker? And what is the store where they carry to order? Maybe we have one too?

[Angelica]

Larissa - do you think it's worth squinting .. with an eye :))?

Angelica, you don't have to ask me - I would buy right away, and Beloboku would throw .
misterious, I wrote - Tesсoma store. I asked them a question on the website, and they answered that they were ready to bring it. There was no talk about the price.

I have found this here .. like 320g is worth .. Larissa - what do you think, is it worth squinting .. with an eye :))?

Angelica, can I also answer everything I know?
This shredder is also stainless steel. The only thing is that you will need to cook the ham in a bag, otherwise you may have problems with its extraction later. I also thought about this model, but since none of the contacts of the biovin company in Poland was answered, I ruled out this option.

misterious, I wrote - Tesсoma store.

I was confused by your phrase in "my Tescom store".
Found this link 🔗... Have you asked on this site or on some other?

Marina, I have such a store near my house.They all have the same catalog, so I asked them a question, could they bring a certain order from the Czech Republic, without specifying what. They said that if there is, they will try to fulfill. That's all for now.

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I didn’t understand at the top .. how the lid is fixed, it doesn’t work out that there is for the whole volume, but on the doormat it’s impossible .. like there is no thread ..
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but in this one on the sides like ears protrudes .. can then pull out for them .. if it's not in a bag to cook .. and I have hail separately ..
still think

I didn’t understand at the top .. how the lid is fixed, it doesn’t work out that there is for the whole volume, but on the doormat it’s impossible .. like there is no thread ..

Angelica, I suspect that in both models it is impossible by half, because then the meat will not be pressed, the spring is of the same height. Do not think of two springs of different heights for these purposes (for large and small sizes) as an advertisement in German. If I am wrong, girls correct me.

Larissa, thank you. It is necessary for the collection and for these shredders to find out the price, and then decide

find out the price for these shredders

There she is 600 crowns, and what will be here - ...

Marina, what kind of advertisement .. I thought there was a universal spring :)) .. and half and more .. Thank you for paying attention.

but in this one on the sides like ears protrudes .. can then pull out for them ..

Yeah, that's right, these ears are the ears of the elevator, there are two photos on the link, one of them shows the "elevator" of this shinkovar.
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Vera, in my Teskom store they offer to fulfill my order and bring a ham maker from the Czech Republic. Outwardly, I like plastic more. And for what reasons did you choose it?

Larisa, my friend stopped at her) She was instructed to buy a shredder, three photographs were sent (vintage, steel and plastic). Next to her house is a Teskomovsky store, she brought a Teskomovsky store, so there are no special preferences, as they say: "What has grown has grown!"))) 500 grams of meat. Unfortunately, I haven't picked it up yet ... Tell us what price you were charged for it, maybe I will also order through local stores, so as not to bother anyone ...

Tell us what price you were charged for it

Required. I think it will be known tomorrow, I sent the link to them.

I also really, really wanted a plastic ham maker with a thermometer from the Czech Republic

I was told that as soon as information arrives, I will be informed ...