Cirre
Quote: anavi

Svetlana, girls who have both devices - Zhardyusha and Princess - please let me suffer - all in thought, finances are only for one thing Purpose: cooking without butter, cheese cakes, cutlets, and baking pies (sometimes). I read both topics - head in a circle All I'm afraid - will it be too burnt there, at such high temperatures. In a cartoon on baking - 100-110 degrees. - and then - it will burn, if you do not interfere. What-oh-oh-oh to do something ???

here I have only Zhardiukha, I bake and cook the second courses in it, I regret that I did not take the second one. For cooking without oil or mines, oil is enough. And the princess, no matter how good she is, no matter how she wants, I probably won't want to.
anavi
Lord, only on Ozone I put the Princess in the basket ... I will still wait, maybe I need to change my mind ... At the price, by the way, almost the same - Princess 4040 rubles. with free shipping, Zhardiukha - 3150 p. + delivery.
Mikhaska
anavi, you know, maybe you still need to take money somewhere and buy it - both at once? And all your thoughts will end! Because, rightly so, they are both good! Each has its own advantages. And it seems to me that this is precisely the case when it is difficult, or even almost impossible, to compare.
anavi
No, Irina, unfortunately, this option is not suitable ... They need to be put somewhere, the husband is indignant because of one of my Wishlist, they say, and so everything is complete, etc. (well, I think, many are familiar) ... So (sighing dejectedly ...) you have to choose ...
Mikhaska
Then cast lots ... But what to do? ... I had this when the question was - a freezer or a large TV in the hall ... The agony of choice is simply awful, but you have to start somewhere ... I understand you SO !
Anastasenok
anavi, I, like the girls, first advise you to the princess. And there, feed your husband yummy food and again the purchase of zhardeko will arrive in time.

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It was cheaper here
Masinen
anavi, it is expensive to pay 4 thousand for a princess.
But Jardé loses in depth and the white body is already turning yellow, but it tastes better for me to fry and cook everything in it.
But I haven't baked anything yet. It is necessary to bake for comparison, but it confuses me that the top cover is shallow.
CatNat
If they were at the same price, I would probably take the princess as more studied by the fumchanami, especially since there is more depth in her.
CatNat
Quote: Anastasenok
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It was cheaper here
It seems out of stock
anavi
Lord, so touching all the same on our forum they relate to each other! Thank you girls for your answers and sympathy! Mashenka, maybe you will try to bake after all? And how can you buy a Princess now if it ALREADY costs so much! Expensive, of course! Zhardeko, perhaps, how to say it - more professional, or what ... yes? Therefore, for Princess 4 thousand it is expensive, but for Zhardiukha 3 thousand is still nothing? In wrote - the most incomprehensible ... Yes, and in my opinion, in the topics the girls wrote that the Princess's depth is LESS - or I have everything mixed up already ...
Masinen
anavi, no, the princesses have more depth with the lid together than Jardé.
But the lower frying pan at Jardé is deeper, and the top is flat))

I'll bake well tomorrow morning, will you wait?)))
Straight in the morning, I promise))
kVipoint
I liked the princess pizza more, but the depth for a thick pizza is better, but the price just infuriates, it's just horror, it's a pity to give 4000 for it, although I love it immensely. In Zherdyushka I only cook, after all, it is more powerful in temperature and a little lacking in height ...
anavi
Of course I will wait! Thank you so much! : girl-yes: I hope the prices will not change in one day! Although we can have everything ...
Anastasenok
anavi, I baked in a jardeco. Ginger turned out to be softer and more airy than in the princess. For the rest of the baking, princess is better because of the height. Both are excellent in quality. Here is a pizza maker travola turd .. Don't take it.
selenа
Anastasenok,
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Here is a pizza maker travola turd
the sellers themselves understand this, so they do not fight the price, but it is not suitable for this price either.
Anastasenok, if it's not a secret, you didn't show your Zhardeko to the specialists, for some reason it seems to me that it will not be difficult to fix it, even without a warranty workshop
Mist
My galette in jardeco
But I'm indifferent to such pies, well, I thought so
It's the third in 2 days.
Contains: cherry, strawberry, pineapple (frozen) and pear.
it's still raw
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and ready
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anavi
And it turned out great! Vku-oo-oo-well, probably! Travola, of course, after thoroughly studying two topics - I don't even consider it. But I'm already leaning towards Zhardyushka ... Yes, I still have a question about washing - how do you wash them, girls? You can't put it in the sink, but wipe it, for example, after frying a thread of chicken with a napkin, and then immediately bake a sweet cake - that's what I still don't understand!
Anastasenok
selenа, gave it to dad. He promised to fix it, but in what year, he did not specify.
selenа
Anastasenok,
Jiri
Quote: Anastasenok
Here is a pizza maker travola turd.
Well, what are the girls, well, after all, there are good pies and biscuits in her, she is not really a turd, and everything is fried in it quickly
Mirabel
anavi, In my opinion, if there is not enough money for 2 stoves, why not buy it gradually? I always do this, there are a lot of Wishlist! if I implement them right away, nothing good will come of it.
I have both, like many. I like both very much. But in your place at the beginning I would buy Jardyukha, for me a huge plus is that you can switch the temperature and the stove in it can be adjusted. You don't plan to bake often, but sometimes.
And there, in a month or two, buy the Princess to help Jarda (I don't remember the exact name)
Happy choice and purchase!
Gibus
As a frying pan I really liked Zhardeko, everything is fried very quickly and conveniently. But for baking, I think it is not very ... At least for baking, sensitive to temperature. On the 3-ke, it scars too much, and in 1-2 positions it has a rather rough thermoregulation.
Here somewhere in a branch they laid out temperature measurements, for example, on the 2nd position of the thermostat: it warmed up to 179C, the heating elements turned off, cooled down to 105C, the heating elements turned on, warmed up to 165C, turned off, etc. Temperature fluctuations up to 70C!
On 1-ke it is even more noticeable. Roughly speaking, in practice, it fizzles for one minute at full capacity - everything squirts, then it turns off for a few minutes, the squalling stops, and there is just a sluggish quenching ... and so cyclically.
Of course, nothing terrible will be done to vegetables from this, but baking is not useful ...

P.S. I, too, have already shown the outlines of a round heating element in the upper frying pan.
I think it's because it's too powerful! It warms up very quickly and boils well!
Less power would be enough for baking
Song
Quote: Mist

My galette in jardeco
But I'm indifferent to such pies, well, I thought so
It's the third in 2 days.
Contains: cherry, strawberry, pineapple (frozen) and pear.
it's still raw
Wonderful pan "double" SmartPan Jardeko
and ready
Wonderful pan "double" SmartPan Jardeko
Irina, and how long and on what mode did you cook?
Ivanovna5
Quote: selenа
Here is a pizza maker travola turd
I do not agree with this! The grasswalker copes well with baking pizza, charlotte, manna, as well as baking meat with potatoes and chicken thighs and other things. She listed what she managed to try to cook in it in three days, while she lived with her daughter. I have a Princess at home and I use it very actively and love it dearly, but since I bought the Grass on Black Friday (don't miss the discount), I gave it to one of my daughters. Now Travolka is her favorite device in her kitchen. But Princeska, without a doubt, is quicker and more spacious, but Travola has a timer - well, very convenient! I think that Zhardeko would have come to my court, but I ordered Shtebik 4.4 In a couple of days I will get it and will test it.
Song
Quote: Ivanovna5
The grasswalker copes well with baking pizza, charlotte, manna, as well as baking meat with potatoes and chicken thighs and other things.
Ivanovna5, Anh, and open the topic about grass grass, and tell me what and how!
And then over there like her ... But Tanyulya also praised her ...
Ivanovna5
Song*, I will try to transfer your proposal to my daughter, otherwise she wanders from my page on the Bread Maker, but while she "sits in the bushes" Oh, what will happen if she also becomes infected with device addiction, the son-in-law will not say thank you to my mother-in-law
Song
Ivanovna5, Anh, so the apple is from the apple tree ... not far ...
Cirre
Quote: anavi

And it turned out great! Vku-oo-oo-well, probably! Travola, of course, after thoroughly studying two topics - I don't even consider it. But I'm already leaning towards Zhardyushka ... Yes, I still have a question about washing - how do you wash them, girls? You can't put it in the sink, but wipe it, for example, after frying a thread of chicken with a napkin, and then immediately bake a sweet cake - that's what I still don't understand!

You can wash with a slightly damp sponge and wipe with a paper towel, and clean
selenа
You can fill it with hot water (if something stuck) and with a detergent too, and then rinse with just water, what problems may be the main thing is not to put it in the dishwasher by mistake, I like to cook in Zharda without molds and additional means, and since the oils are minimal quantity, it is easy to wash
Cirre

selenа Nadezhda, carefully with hot water, I wrote above an extract from the instructions:

6. When preparing food, be careful not to spill sauce, juice or any other liquid that is difficult to clean after cooling down into the gap between the frying surface and the body of the appliance.
Vei
girls, and you cutlets on which mode you fry and how long?
and potatoes?
Cirre
The potatoes were fried for 2-2.5, somewhere in between, and the timer is not up to the stop.
selenа
Vei, Lisa, I fry potatoes on (***) three, I set the time to 20 minutes, but I turn it off even earlier, once during frying I will interfere a little with a spatula
kolobashka
Vei, Liz, did you get that?
I don't have fried potatoes in Zhardeyka, they don't crunch. And I like the cutlets, you can do a lot at once. At the expense of cleaning, I think I need to buy a Teflon mat, otherwise it's still not very convenient, the meat sticks a little.
Vei
I bought it in my first purchase, but I tried it only yesterday. Something the top is so hot! and I have a lot of juice and fat melted into the lower frying pan, as now I can't imagine washing it.
natibor
So I boast
I cook in Zhardyushka every day, I'm happy - immensely!
What she managed to take before the family came running:
Jellied pie with cabbage. It is flat because there is half of the rye flour
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She baked the mackerel, the children said that it worked, like on the grill on the river, this is our main praise. Even the youngest ate with pleasure, and to force her to use fish ...
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I stuck here such pancakes, it was delicious, half of the dough is still in the fridge
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And several times she baked everyone's favorite biscuit. but she disappeared too quickly
Thanks again to Olya Mere and Ole motoxxx for help in purchasing your favorite (for today) devices

kolobashka
Vei, did you cook the cutlets? I got the same lot of liquid, but I liked the cutlets, they were not dry.
Vei
kolobashka, Vary, the cutlets turned out to be quite good too, I cooked with the lid closed, so it’s more familiar or something, and so it was on top that they burned slightly, although the taste was not felt.
The trouble is with washing now, I don't know how best to do it so as not to whip everything with this fatty broth.
Masinen
I baked my favorite Serbian Pita
Baked for 20 minutes on 2k
It was baked perfectly, there is not enough height.
I put it all in a cold Jard
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Turned on the heating.
Tk pita rises, the lid began to lift together with Pita)
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At the end, the lid rose even more
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The result is good, it turned out darker in the photo, in fact it did not burn.
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Everything is baked, it smells delicious!
Incision
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But that's why they didn't make a deep top cover !!!
Masinen
Vei, Liz, I collect the fat with a paper towel, then wipe it with a sponge and soap and again wash the soap with a damp paper and that's it))
natibor
Masinen, well, you can't do that !!! the whole keyboard dripped, licked the screen, and until the end of the working day it will take so long !!!
Mikhaska
Masinen, Masha! Luxurious pita! And the most delicious cut!
That is, she was so baked in your half-open state?
Masinen
natibor, Thank you)
mikhaska, Irin, yes, it was baked in this state)
It turned out to be very tender and tasty. The main thing is that everything is baked.
In Poincess, I turned off so that the top did not burn, and put a Teflon mat on the bottom.
But here, the top was not crushed by a leg, but in the Princess it turns out to be round)
In Jard, a tremendous plus temperature controller !!!!
Mikhaska
Yes! controller, this is a huge plus!
I cooked your pita in the oven about a month ago (I wore it for a visit). It's embarrassing, of course, that I didn't take a picture for the report.
Delicious dish! Everyone was happy - both savory lovers and sweet lovers. Everyone managed to please.
I love these dishes: absolutely non-pathetic, but impeccable in taste!
Thank you, Masha for her!
lega
Quote: Vei
The trouble is with washing now, I don't know how best to do it so as not to whip everything with this fatty broth.
I also have a lot of juice left in the frying pan after the cutlets. First, I scooped everything out of the cooled frying pan with a crepe maker, it is very thin and did a wonderful job with this business. Then, of course, wiped it off with a paper towel.

But you can also wash it carefully. I put it on the wing of the sink like an open book, the adjusting knobs up. And it is quite possible to gently wash.
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And I keep the frying pan a little ajar so that the smells do not build up. To do this, I use a thick terry napkin folded four times. I put the cord inside the frying pan - plug into a napkin (so as not to scratch), and the cord goes near the napkin (so as not to squeeze).
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Vei
lega, thanks for the detailed explanations.
But to be honest, I am very disappointed with the moment of washing, It is clear that I myself am to blame, this was to be expected, I just had all my devices with removable panels before, so I did not even think about this matter. And here washing it takes longer than using it. I have already lost the habit of such things, I poke around with this washing almost as much as my PMM washes a mountain of dishes (((
It's even a pity that I opened it at all, because I will not use it with such a layout anyway. For me, the most important thing is time, and with such a wash I don't want to cook anything in it.
In general, my impressionability let me down, I read your rave reviews and did not turn on my brain in time. Now I am surprised at myself, but now I have science - fixed grills / pans - never again!
natibor
Vei, it does not bother me at all to wipe Zhardyushka with a paper napkin. if you fried meat - with a damp sponge and soap, and then with a napkin - there is no smell, fat too. maybe you will still reach a consensus with her?
selenа
Vei, Lisa, sell and forget
Zhanik
Masinen, Maria, what a beauty !!!! Can you link to the recipe? I love these things!

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