Lisichkalal
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that's why I'm looking for an alternative
Rituyla, you would tell us about the cars that you tried. I think everyone is interested) advantages, disadvantages ..
Only you have such experience. Probably no one else has on the bread maker)
amargar
I can only say that both lack power and poppy. t. only 200 gr. in the one that I only tried black chicken, not only did I fry the chicken for more than an hour, so it still turned out pale, without a crispy crust. I can say the same about white, I made potatoes in it, it turned out dry and not fried. in general, I folded them and took them to the garage.
Mirabel
the little chicken in the big Philips turns out to be very cool. In general, the best machine for grilled chicken and barbecue, this one
🔗
Lisichkalal
Mdya ((200 degrees is, of course, not enough.
Why the garage? Can't you hand them over? what does your husband say to that? ))
amargar
Quote: Lisichkalal
Why the garage? Can't you hand them over? what does your husband say to that? ))

because I bought from a private person, not from a company. my husband is golden on this score, he does not pay attention to such trifles.
Lisichkalal
Rita,)))
Keep us informed about your purchases) very interesting!
Respect and respect to my husband)
It's a pity that the cars are idle in the garage ((
Iskatel-X
in the subject of recipes for ag there is a recipe for making boiled pork.
and in Yandex you can hammer pork in the airfryer.
That's exactly what I did: Yandex, recipes for ag.
Let's put the question differently:
Extinguishing in Delimano 3d - how many degrees should I set? 165?
And the correction in time, in relation to the airfryer - how much?

Can I bake in parchment? Not an airfryer after all?

Thank you.
sleepyhead
Iskatel-X,
I was interested in your question about boiled pork. But there is no pork at home, I decided to conduct an experiment on chicken breast. I took a half of a chicken breast, wrapped it in foil, squeezing the foil so that the juice would not flow out, poured one and a half liters of water into a bowl, put a grate on its legs. She put the breast in foil on it and set the mode to 210 degrees for 17 minutes. It turned out to be a juicy breast, I think that boiled pork can also be obtained from pork. The meat can be pre-grated with pepper and salt and stuffed with garlic. Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow I'm going to buy meat, then I'll experiment again and accomplish my goal.
Iskatel-X
sleepyhead
If wrapped in foil - why pour water? The steamer turns out.
17 minutes is not enough for boiled pork. It should be stewed for a long time at a low temperature.
According to the recipe for a multicooker (without foil), I have already cooked it, dried it a little, and burned the crust. I cut off the burnt, it turned out delicious!
sleepyhead
Quote: Iskatel-X

sleepyhead
If wrapped in foil - why pour water? The steamer turns out.
17 minutes is not enough for boiled pork. It should be stewed for a long time at a low temperature.
According to the recipe for a multicooker (without foil), I have already cooked it, dried it a little, and burned the crust. I cut off the burnt, it turned out delicious!

You can, of course, try without water, but I think that firing the foil with water will be softer.
I cooked today according to the same principle, in a bowl water, pork in foil, on a wire rack on legs. Temperature 210 degrees cooked for 1 hour. It turned out to be an excellent soft, juicy pork pork, there was a lot of juice in the foil. Only it is necessary in advance, for an hour, probably, salt and pepper. Because when cut, the pieces are slightly salty. Garlic did not play a special role. I think that you can set the temperature and 230 degrees, then the cooking time will be reduced.
sleepyhead
Yes ... I'll clarify that I had a piece of pork weighing 500 grams.
Iskatel-X
sleepyhead
I'll try it in foil with water.
What is more practical to bake? Foil, paper, sleeve? And why?
Will the baking paper and sleeve melt?
The sleeve (baking bag) came with spices. In the recipe - oven, pour water into the bag and pour seasoning. Can I bake in Delimano 3d in this bag? Without water (poured into the bag), of course.
Thank you.
sleepyhead
Quote: Iskatel-X

sleepyhead
I'll try it in foil with water.
What is more practical to bake? Foil, paper, sleeve? And why?
Will the baking paper and sleeve melt?
The sleeve (baking bag) came with spices. In the recipe - oven, pour water into the bag and pour seasoning. Can I bake in Delimano 3d in this bag? Without water (poured into the bag), of course.
Thank you.

I cannot answer these questions. In principle, the baking bag must be able to withstand the heat. After all, in Delimano, the temperature is not higher than in the oven, but I don’t want to try, I’m still afraid for my favorite.
sleepyhead
Iskatel-X,

Today I cooked boiled pork in the microwave. And don't bother with baking sleeves and foil.

Here's a link to the recipe: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in..._smf&topic=430728.new#new
Lisichkalal
and I made a fish for the first time.
So I don't know how to cook fish, I rarely do it.
I bought a perch, 3 carcasses of 300 grams each.
2 began to fry in a skillet usually. Nothing was fried, only a very dark crust began to appear. Well, I put these 2 carcasses in the oven, I was finishing them there.
And 3 in a clarstein. 20 minutes and she's ready. Very hard crust, but delicious inside.
The time came about like in the oven, but take less.
I came to the conclusion that such a fish should be pre-marinated and put to Clar for 15-20 minutes.
After all, they wrote about this 100 times already here, but no, until you try it yourself, it will not be deposited in your head)
Iskatel-X
sleepyhead
Did as you advised: water in the bowl + foil.
It turned out great!

Can I cook Brisket (Bacon) in Delimano? To make it look like a storefront? Or just smoke?
It is clear that meat is needed with layers: meat / fat / meat / fat.
Thank you
sleepyhead
Quote: Iskatel-X
Can I cook Brisket (Bacon) in Delimano? To make it look like a storefront? Or just smoke?
It is clear that meat is needed with layers: meat / fat / meat / fat.
Thank you

I will not be able to answer. Maybe the other girls were cooking. I tried boiled pork, as this is relevant for me now. They just talked to their daughter-in-law that it was necessary to switch from chicken at least partially to meat. Because there is so much nasty stuff in chickens. A friend of mine got a job at a plant where chickens are processed. And she did not work, since it is officially allowed to pump chickens from a syringe with some kind of filth. But I don't eat fat brisket - I'm trying to lose weight.
Mirabel
Quote: soneyka
it is officially allowed to pump chickens from a syringe with some muck.
So, most likely, pigs are also pumped up.
Lisichkalal
and I think they pump everyone (((
and we are already pumped up, God forbid (
sleepyhead
Quote: Lisichkalal
and I think they pump everyone (((
For almost a week every day I have been eating 2-3 small pieces - only 60-70 grams of boiled pork - and I concluded that it is much more satisfying than chicken.
Aygana
Hello girls! I saw an advertisement for an airfryer on TV - my Wishlist turned on ... I want it with terrible force. But the toad presses very hard for now. Therefore, I am very glad that there is such a forum, and here you can find reviews of real people! And collect more information to fight the toad. I honestly read about 20 pages on this thread. Forgive me if this was already discussed somewhere on a page like that at 54 .... And this wonderful multi-cake (delimano) can just cook, say soups? Because after all, you will not constantly sit on a fried one (even if it is fried without oil).
sleepyhead
Quote: Aigana
And this wonderful multi-cake (delimano) can just cook, say soups?

For soups, it is best to buy a multi-pressure cooker. And quickly and tasty and without problems. I have a multi-cooker-pressure cooker Mulinex, I feel like no hands without it, my faithful assistant.
Lisichkalal
Sveta, what multi model do you have?
Irlarsen
How I love my new stove! Pomfrey is, of course, out of competition.It's full of all sorts of delicious frozen potato stuff. Today I wanted to pamper myself with potato cutlets. But at home in the afternoon I'm alone today and how much can I master them? Then I remembered that I bought this stove, emphasizing the saving of electricity in comparison with the oven, and now I think I need to kill two birds with one stone. So I eat a lemon pie in the house alone, I decided to cook for myself 2 dishes at once. No sooner said than done! In a profikuk (a copy of the thermomix) in 2 minutes she knocked down 2 squirrels, then in 30 seconds she grated lemon with sugar and in a couple of minutes kneaded shortbread dough on the remaining yellows. I posted it. Oven level 3 25 minutes
Delimano 3d multi-oven
Lisichkalal
Ira, well, an inventor)
Are you satisfied with the proficiency? I don’t seem to need it, but I’m still thinking. like everything is there, and multi and dough mixer, that's why I still need it?
Lisichkalal
Quote: Iskatel-X

sleepyhead

Can I cook Brisket (Bacon) in Delimano? To make it look like a storefront? Or just smoke?
It is clear that meat is needed with layers: meat / fat / meat / fat.
Thank you
I don’t know how about the store, but I do it often, our grandfather respects such meat very much.
I take a 300 gram braid somewhere. Rub with salt, pepper, paprika for color and marinate in the refrigerator for several hours. Then on the wire rack in a clarstein (delimano) until a beautiful crust.
Irlarsen
LisichkalalI am very pleased with Proficouk. Somehow my hand does not rise to the thermomix, it is very expensive. A proficuk is quite an affordable price. I also like the fact that it reduces the amount of used dishes. I also have dough mixers, combines, but they animate a lot of space on the table and I get them only for some kind of "voluminous" dishes. A proficouk is on the table all the time, for constant quick use. Here's a cake for today. I knocked down the squirrels, grated the lemon in the same place, kneaded the dough in the same place. Then she poured some water, spun the water with a drop of the product and that's it! She poured out the water and rinsed the bowl a little. One (ONE) time one cup! The squirrels I knocked down lay on a plate, on which I then put a cake and laid it out. The grated lemons, however, lay in a bowl, which also had to be washed later, or rather put into the dishwasher. But, you must admit, there is a minimum of dishwashing. If all the bowls and bowls are shoved into the dishwasher, then also work (load, put to wash, unload) is added.
Yesterday, in the same profikuk, in 30 seconds I rubbed the carrots and onions, set them to fry with a stirrer in the oven. In the same bowl (I didn't wash the bowl) mincemeat and put it in the oven there too! In the same bowl there are tomatoes and there are them. Here is the pasta sauce. One bowl used. I tried to make this sauce directly in profikuk, and cook there, I liked it, but my son criticized it, and yesterday I ate it from the oven with pleasure
Lisichkalal
Ira, thanks! want to chtol for christmas? )))
Iskatel-X
Lisichkalal
I take a piece of 300 grams somewhere. Rub with salt, pepper, paprika for color and marinate in the refrigerator for several hours. Then on the wire rack in a clarstein (delimano) until a beautiful crust.
- until a beautiful crust - what time and degrees?
- a piece - will change color. Shop - "natural" color. Or are they dyes?
Pork and brisket - the taste is different.

sleepyhead
For soups, it is best to buy a multi-pressure cooker.
In Delimano, can I put a fireproof glass container to make a soup pot?
What are the "limitations" against this method?

sleepyhead
Quote: Lisichkalal
Sveta, what multi model do you have?
Multicooker Moulinex Minut'Cook CE400032
here is its description: 🔗
She has been serving me faithfully for three years now.
Lisichkalal
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=108428.0
here by analogy with this recipe.
40 minutes can be a bit too much, you need to look at the color and degree of roastiness.
the color is beautiful and appetizing, with paprika it is even more beautiful.
of course the taste is different, these are 2 different dishes.
I don't think I cooked the soup in clara myself, it will take a very long time. Delimano is not for soups.

Svetik, thanks, I'll see your mule)
sleepyhead
Wrote in the wrong topic.
sleepyhead
Today I cooked fish cakes in my beloved Delimanochka. They turned out great!

FISH CUTLETS
Fish (fillet) - 400 grams,
Potatoes - 1 piece - 80 grams,
Cabbage - 80 grams,
Onions - 1 piece - 80 grams,
Egg - 1 piece,
Salt, red pepper,
It tastes better without breading.
Pass everything together through a meat grinder, add an egg, make cutlets. Steam in Delimanochka. Pour one and a half liters of water into a bowl, put a wire rack on legs and a steaming dish on it. Cook at 200 degrees for 15 minutes. Delicious soft tender cutlets with a crust are obtained.

Cod cutlets:
100 grams = 75 kcal
proteins - 11.7 grams
Fat - 1.3 grams
Carbohydrates - 4 grams

Iskatel-X
sleepyhead
What kind of pepper: Bulgarian, chili, ground? How much is it?
How much salt?
Cabbage - cabbage or cauliflower?
sleepyhead
Quote: Iskatel-X
sleepyhead
What kind of pepper: Bulgarian, chili, ground? How much is it?
How much salt?
Cabbage - cabbage or cauliflower?

We are experienced hostesses, we put everything on the eye and pepper and salt. Ground red hot pepper, sold in packs, you need to put a little, because it is very hot. White cabbage.
Iskatel-X
sleepyhead
ground hot pepper, you need to put a little, because it is very hot
Some people like it hot. This is me about myself. Chile, of course, is superfluous in this recipe.
We are experienced hostesses
There are also inexperienced ones, sit down and go to the forum!
Thank you
Iskatel-X
Dear pros, tell me:
Melt butter in a heat-resistant glass Luminarc (for microwave) - at what temperature and how long?
Maybe chocolate can be used instead of a water bath?
Thank you

PS There is no microwave.
sleepyhead
Quote: Iskatel-X
Melt butter in a heat-resistant glass Luminarc (for microwave) - at what temperature and how long?
Best of all in the "defrost" mode. But if there is a lot of oil, it will still "shoot" I just melt a little bit and watch in the window. It is also recommended to cover with a paper towel.
sleepyhead
Quote: Iskatel-X
Maybe chocolate can be used instead of a water bath?
I didn't do it myself, but here are some good tips: 🔗
sleepyhead
Quote: Iskatel-X
PS There is no microwave.
What does it mean?
amargar
Quote: soneyka
What does it mean?
this means that a person does not have a microwave, he wants to do all this in the delimano
sleepyhead
Ah ... I thought it was in the microwave. I apologize. I didn't do that in Delimano.
Iskatel-X
sleepyhead
... all the same "will shoot" I just melt a little bit, and watch in the window. It is also recommended to cover with a paper towel.
I asked about this. Thanks for the advice!
Instead of a towel - can you cover it with a glass lid, a saucer, if you don't have a lid?
Run to the store again ...

Rightly noticed
no microwave
sleepyhead
Quote: Iskatel-X
I asked about this. Thanks for the advice!
I wrote for the microwave, I didn't melt the butter in Delimano.
Iskatel-X
sleepyhead
I can assume that "defrosting" is unlikely to differ significantly from the microwave.
Although, the microwave is a different principle: it stimulates the movement of molecules, due to which cooking occurs.
Iskatel-X
I bake boiled pork in foil with water (in a bowl, of course) - on recommendation sleepyhead, for which many thanks to her!
Is it possible to add to foil, for example, lemon, orange, kiwi, exactly in foil, and bake like that?
For flavoring.
Cut into rings, or squeeze juice, which is better?
What will be the result?

Without foil, smeared with jam, etc., getting an appetizing crust, I read this on the topic pages. But it is in the foil, can you?
Thank you.
Seven-year plan
Iskatel-X, but why not !!!!
Everything for your taste !!!
Anything is possible! Improvise !!!
Try this and that !!!
sleepyhead
Quote: Iskatel-X
What will be the result?
I think it's better to cut into thin slices and put under and on the meat. What will be the result, so you can unsubscribe
Iskatel-X
Svetlana Rostov-on-Don
Chopped and pickled in circles, not very thin, but laid around the meat.

Svetlana
Actually, I'm already improvising.
There is no such thing in the recipe. Only - grate and roll in dry spices.
I would - still soak with juice, next time (and pickle for a day): lemon or orange (self-squeezing, not store-bought).
Will it bust? Won't you swim in it?
Before baking in foil - drain excess juice, or leave in foil?

The previous time I covered it with lemon, and removed it before baking.
It turned out delicious!

Thank you.
Seven-year plan
Iskatel-X, I would marinate in orange juice (for me lemon is too aggressive) in some kind of container! And I put the pickled one in foil and baked it!
Or maybe it will just be stewed-boiled ...

But if you circle it in circles, then you can also lemon slices ...
And again, I would not remove them before baking ...
I cover the fish too - then this lemon is so delicious!

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