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Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class) (page 38)

Galina Iv.
Can I put my word in on black choke breeding? Lyudmila, now cut the cuttings, 20 cm, from the bottom an oblique cut under the kidney, from the top straight OVER the kidney and at an angle stick it into the ground, preferably in a greenhouse, in the shade and water more often. Or easier: when the berries ripen, plant them before winter, these berries, but first, knead the berry and get the seeds. And in the spring you will be happy!
It grows very quickly.
Even though a forestry engineer is useful to you here I can tell you a lot who eats who in our meadows, fields, forests, but with the medicinal benefits of certain blades, this is for our connoisseur Veronica, she paramed1
lappl1
Quote: Galina Iv.
Can I put my word in on black choke breeding?
Check mark, good day ! Sure you may! The more advice, the more black chokeberry forest I will grow .... And the cherry must be planted. I have 4 small cherry trees. They don't want to grow at all.
Quote: Galina Iv.
At least here a forestry engineer is useful to you.I can determine a lot for you who eats who in our meadows, fields, forests,
And the animals too? Yesterday I went for fireweed through a large mown meadow. I saw how some animal was scrambling across the meadow - the size of a cat, looks like a weasel, black. Not a cat or a ferret, that's for sure. Well, I was walking with my husband, otherwise I would have run away from him ...
Galina Iv.
Lyudochka, well, it's so hard to say, maybe it's a ferret?
Quote: lappl1
the size of a cat
I would not eat, but only bite (just kidding)
Yes, he himself probably barely carried his legs out of fright
lappl1
No, I added that I was not a ferret ...
Galina Iv.
Luda, is there any pond nearby? maybe it's an otter?
lappl1
Yes, about 500 meters away. Well, there is a pond near our house, but I have not seen anything like that ...
Galina Iv.
The otter does not go into the forest more than 100 m from the river). But she looks like a cat)
Stoats, so they are not big ...
lappl1
Well, okay ... I don't go alone anyway, they won't eat ...
Galina Iv.
there are recent options either pine marten or badger
IvaNova
I report

raspberry
at the moment my favorite
washing - drying - freezing - rolling - fermentation under load 8 hours - drying in the oven - drying in a draft
the color of the drink is slightly green, the taste is interesting, with sourness and tart aftertaste
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

sea ​​buckthorn
very dry leaf, made out of curiosity
the technology is similar to raspberries, with the difference that the leaf does not spin at all
therefore, after symbolic twisting and fermentation under load (fermentation duration is 9.5 hours), before drying, I unrolled the resulting "springs" - so the sheet lays down on drying in a thinner layer and dries faster
beautiful color, during drying there was a barely perceptible "green" smell, almost disappeared during brewing, and the taste ...
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
however, next year I will try to change the fermentation and drying modes
something hooked me this willow, I will not leave her

Apple tree
the leaf is tough, therefore, after freezing, I cut it a little and press it until it gives juice
fermentation under load 12 hours
the leaf of the apple tree contains some kind of dye (carotene or something), which colors the hands in red
brewing color golden brown, very warm
there was a slight smell during drying, but in the brewed form there was no taste or smell
there is a desire to "twist" the modes, suddenly what will come out
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

cherry
technology is similar to "apple", fermentation under load 8.5 hours
there is an intoxicating smell when drying
the brew also has a clear cherry aroma and a slight sourness
and the color did not impress at all
besides, this is probably the only leaf that gave dregs in the tea leaves
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

I dried everything with the oven door ajar at 100 degrees, dried it out at a temperature of 50 degrees
I have a feeling that the oven is "hotter" than the extruded temperature
perhaps this gives overdrying and, as a consequence, "killing" the smell
Loksa
Quote: Galina Iv.
Lyudmila, now cut the cuttings, 20 cm, from the bottom an oblique cut under the kidney, from the top straight OVER the kidney and at an angle stick it into the ground, preferably in a greenhouse, in the shade and water more often.
Hello everyone! I completely agree with Galina, cut the cuttings ifse.
We uprooted the old blackberry bush (we almost died out Near Him, such a tenacious "good girl") and chopped it into twigs for kindling; grandmother picked up fork-shaped twigs and stuck them under the strawberries - on some, by the fall, the leaves had blossomed, almost planting the whole area with a black chokeberry. They put a tree stump on the ditch. Here is such a tenacious blackberry
But to tilt the twig and dig in, I don't know how we will get this tall shrub, well, of course you can find shoots, but it's easier to cut and plant at an angle.
Galina Iv.
Quote: Loksa
I almost planted the entire area with a black chokeberry
In the spring, my husband uprooted the thickets of blackberries at the entrance, all spring, the roots of the monsters, uprooted everything, made a beautiful hill, so right now I constantly rip out the blackberry shoots, here and there I get out.
Loksa
In-in, and I get out everywhere, by the way, Irga is the same tenacious, everything strives to climb into the garden.
Galina Iv.
So, Lyudmila, you are welcome to St. Petersburg, we will load 2 cars
Linadoc
Quote: Loksa
In-in and I get out everywhere
And I have a goof and thorns behave like that, infections. Already I cut it down with an ax, all the same they crawl into the garden and into the greenhouses. The pepper grows and the sucker grows with it, the cucumber grows and the blackthorn breaks through in a centimeter, and the vigna in general has entangled the thorn sprouts so that it cannot be cut down.
Luda, by the way, WITH A HUNDRED OF YOU !!! Not everyone has 100 pages in the topic!
Loksa
Linadoc, I want a cowpea, you dug her hdeee? Is she perennial?
Yes, in St. Petersburg we are so black! Wine from her very current cannot be much.
Linadoc
Quote: Loksa
Wine from her very current cannot be much.
Oksana, that's what I know for sure! Legs do not hold then at all!
And I ordered cowpea from the Chinese a couple of years ago, left 1 pod, and plant it. Fast, tasty and a lot! To feed your zhorikov is the very thing!
lappl1
Quote: IvaNova
I report
IvaNovawhat a cool report! Beautiful photos ! Thank you so much !
Quote: IvaNova
sea ​​buckthorn is a very dry leaf, made out of curiosity ... taste ... no
Tanya-Burunduk was also not happy with her. I also want to try it. Only taking into account your experience with Tanya, I would twist her in a meat grinder with some neutral leaves after freezing. When I harvest, I will try to do it, if there are still leaves.
Quote: IvaNova
apple tree ... in a brewed form there is neither taste nor smell there is a desire to "twist" the modes, suddenly what will come out. cherry ... and the color did not impress at all
besides, this is probably the only leaf that gave dregs in the tea leaves
IvaNova, I am sure that due to the stiffness of the leaves of these plants, when preparing for fermentation, it is very difficult to squeeze the right amount of juice out of them with handles. Let me remind you what fermentation. This is the process that results in the conversion of insoluble leaf substances into soluble. This can be done by breaking the leaf well and squeezing out the amount of juice necessary for fermentation.... And when rolling the rolls by hand, it is not possible to fully carry out fermentation, that is, to convert insoluble substances into soluble ones. Hence the weak taste, color and aroma. The meat grinder allows you to fully ensure the destruction of the leaf and give juice.
IvaNovaHave you tried granulated tea? If not, then try it! You will immediately see the gorgeous color of tea and feel completely different tastes and aromas. I never tire of repeating that the apple tree makes a gorgeous tea in taste and aroma.
For contrast, I will once again place here a photo of apple and cherry tea:

Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

Maybe you are overdrying your tea. But then it would definitely be dark.The higher the initial drying temperature, the darker the tea becomes.
lappl1
Oksana, Galina Iv., thank you very much for your advice and invitation. If I am in St. Petersburg, we will meet. I'll take the blackberry from my neighbor. And I will plant it in every way: with cuttings, and berries, and dripping. Or maybe there is just some growth, so I'll plant more bushes. Let it grow, I have a lot of space ...
lappl1
Quote: Linadoc
Luda, by the way, WITH A HUNDRED OF YOU !!! Not everyone has 100 pages in the topic!
Linadocdear, thank you! Wow, I didn't even notice! Yes, we have all worked seriously! One hundred pages wrote! Girls, happy anniversary to all of us ! And delicious tea for us!
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
Yes, in St. Petersburg we are so black! Wine from her very current cannot be much.
Oksan, do you have a wine recipe?
Loksa
I'm afraid to guess if I find I will write,: girl-th: but this is with my mother. Because of this war, we rarely call her.
francevna
Ludmila, with a jubilee page, and yet two months have not passed yet!

How nice to drink your tea! Today I brewed grapes with mulberry, the taste is pleasant, delicate, with sourness, more like a drink.
francevna
Quote: Linadoc
And I have a goof and thorns behave like that, infections. I already cut it down with an ax, all the same they crawl into the garden and greenhouses
We removed unnecessary overgrowth and huge trees like this: on the waning moon, we made injections into the tree trunk roundup, the tree dries up quickly. But if there is a lot of overgrowth, moreover, it was chopped off, and it grows further, then in several places give injections. Spray the leaves with roundup, covering the beneficial plants.
lappl1
Quote: francevna
Lyudmila, with a jubilee page, and in fact two months have not passed yet!
Alla, Thank you so much ! And you too, and all the girls! I wouldn't have written so much alone! This is our common anniversary!
lappl1
Quote: francevna
And how pleasant it is to drink your tea!
Alla,
Vladimirovna
I sit drinking tea from strawberries, the same that was grass-grass. For two weeks, the smell was infused. And yesterday I made granulated tea from the same batch of strawberries, which had been in the freezer for 2 weeks. Immediately brewed it. It turned out to be a great tea, so thick and delicious. Thank you for your help and happy anniversary. It seems to me that now this is the most delicious and popular topic. And how many more leaves on the trees. There was an incentive to plant bushes and trees, which are so lacking for tea (so as not to walk around the neighbors).
Galina Iv.
and I got prettier and came to the anniversary with Derevensky
Yesterday evening I brewed it - delicious! and this morning it seemed to me even tastier !!!! FEELING, pour !!!
That's just where Loksa, with the promised wine .... Oksana, get out !! Or she didn't tell us ... my head was spinning and resting under an old oak tree
Lyudochka you and your subject are priceless !!! This is how we must lure us and take us away! Into the forest, meadows, fields ... now it's all ours
Mary Poppins
Ladies, I have an apple tree hanging now, it seems a Chinese woman .. Small red apples and dark leaves with red streaks. I want to try mono tea from them. Somewhere in the subject I caught a glimpse of someone twisting in a meat grinder with a grill for beef stroganoff. But now I can't find it. Now I don't have this lattice, but I can ask to bring it. So, do I need it?
I would put my leaves in the freezer. Or on the usual one to scroll?
On a regular one, I have a lot of dust from stirring in a frying pan. And I’m afraid that I won’t twist it right and I’ll ruin everything ..
Galina Iv.
Mary Poppins, since I only love LEAF tea, I would throw it into the freezer, then walk with a rolling pin and twist it with handles, and then I would immediately cut it and press it!
I am sure that you would have got an extremely tasty tea!
paramed1
Linadoc, but about the cowpea - when to tear the pods? Nobody says ... I put them foolishly right in the garden, then my husband cursed with bad words and put supports on stretchers. The pod has grown already half a meter long, it does not go in breadth yet. The whole village looks over the fence, they are interested! I planted Lagenaria at 3 m, now again something outlandish for a deeply rural inhabitant ... I feel that soon my support will collapse under the greenery ... It's a pity that you can't make tea out of it ... And the seeds are in our seed shops.
And as for the treatment or non-treatment with herbs - so this is how it goes. The last example is my own husband. Infusion of golden mustache keeps eye pressure at 18 after 27 for the third year. And the neighbor has it as it was. Here the attitude to the result sometimes works. Just like acupuncture - not for everyone, not always and not everywhere.
Linadoc
Quote: paramed1
but about the cowpea - when to tear the pods?
Veronica, green and juicy pods can now be torn, immediately cut together with the beans into 2-3 cm pieces and freeze. Then it is good for soup or rice. And if the beans themselves are needed, then collect the already yellowed dry ones, immediately husk the beans and you can freeze, or you can dry them a little in a canvas bag.
Mary Poppins
Galina Iv., thanks) Do you dry in front of the freezer or not?
I then took out an un-cured apple tree from the freezer - it broke when twisted and unwound back. I guess this is because there is a lot of juice in the leaf.
Therefore, I decided to dry it in any case, and then according to the circumstances.
Galina Iv.
Mary Poppins, write your experience)), I did not make raspberries.
paramed1
Linadoc, Thank you! Freeze it, of course, there is already an ordinary asparagus, two shelves ... But this one I planted for the first time and I'm waiting for the pod to grow up to a meter ...
That's it, I'm not distracted from the topic ... On the other hand, where else can you find a knowledgeable interlocutor ...
Loksa
Galina Iv., I think so, but in fact I'm at work Fuh-horror-blockage. Mom's got the recipe, contact her on weekends.
And I made raspberries - it smells like candy, and my color is light.
Linadoc
Quote: paramed1
Freeze it, of course, there is already an ordinary asparagus, two shelves ...
why so many beans? Then it's better to dry it like tea. I have frozen fruits and berries (for compote), boiled corn with tomatoes (for soup), beans with bell peppers (for the first and second), grated pumpkin, honey agarics, gutted chicks. All his own. Luda, I'm sorry, I will no longer be distracted from the topic!
IvaNova
Quote: lappl1

I am sure that due to the stiffness of the leaves of these sauces, when preparing for fermentation, it is very difficult to squeeze the right amount of juice out of them with pens. And when rolling the rolls by hand, it is not possible to fully ferment
I blame it on it too
and even in the heat - we almost burned this summer, it's dry, the leaves are also very dry
however, the raspberries fermented well (but they were young, I peeled off the self-seeders)
next time I'm thinking of mixing an apple tree with raspberries
although, perhaps, it will be already next year, from young leaves
Quote: lappl1

Have you tried granulated tea? If not, then try it!
granulated made the first batch of ivan tea
no more
I do not like granular, the leaf makes me happy
Mary Poppins
Quote: Galina Iv.

Mary Poppins, write your experience)), I did not make raspberries.
Probably, we didn’t understand each other .. I didn’t say anything about raspberries .. I asked if it’s right, which is better to wither before the freezer?
I couldn't twist the apple tree after the freezer .. I'm just going to raspberries, but today it's raining all day ((
lappl1
Quote: Vladimirovna
I sit drinking tea from strawberries, the same that was grass-grass. For two weeks the smell was infused. And yesterday I made granulated tea from the same batch of strawberries, which had been in the freezer for 2 weeks. Immediately brewed it. It turned out to be a great tea, so thick and delicious.
Vladimirovna, I am very glad that the tea turned out! Congratulations ! Another confirmation that granulated tea turns out to be rich in every sense!
Quote: Vladimirovna
Thank you for your help and happy anniversary.
To health, Vladimirovna ! Enjoy your tea! And thanks for the congratulations! I also congratulate you on our common anniversary. And all the girls! I am very glad that tea topics aroused such interest!
Quote: Vladimirovna
And how many more leaves on the trees. There was an incentive to plant bushes and trees, which are so lacking for tea (so as not to walk around the neighbors).
This is yes! I'm already thinking about what and how much to plant.Fortunately, there is where!
lappl1
Quote: Galina Iv.
Lyudochka you and your subject are priceless !!! This is how we must lure us and take us away! Into the forest, meadows, fields ... Now it's all ours
Check mark, you, as always, are very kind to me. I was happy to share what I did. And I am very glad that the residents of "Mcooker" got involved in this process. Sometimes I imagine, when I collect the leaves, that maybe someone now, like me, is picking the leaves for tea. And it really warms the soul. Because I know what a pleasure it is to make tea! I'm glad that with her recipe I was able to please someone else.
lappl1
Quote: Mary Poppins
Somewhere in the subject I caught a glimpse of someone twisting in a meat grinder with a grill for beef stroganoff. But now I can't find it. Now I don't have this lattice, but I can ask to bring it. So, do I need it?
Mary Poppins, I don’t remember that! I always read everything carefully and remember it, but there was nothing about the grill for beef stroganoff. Now I looked at this lattice in Yandex. Maybe it will turn out well. The tea is well remembered, it will be large-leaved. It is very interesting to me. I would like to try.
Quote: Mary Poppins
On a regular one, I have a lot of dust from stirring in a frying pan
The apple leaf turns well after withering, does not crumble. Have you wilted before the freezer?
Girls, if you want to twist the leaves in a meat grinder, but the leaves are in the freezer, then you still need to wither them before the freezer. Do not wither the leaves if we plan to make loose leaf tea. Otherwise, not withered leaves after the freezer can give dust in the meat grinder.
lappl1
Quote: Mary Poppins
Do you dry in front of the freezer or not? I then took out an un-cured apple tree from the freezer - it broke when twisted and unwound back. I guess this is because there is a lot of juice in the leaf. Therefore, I decided to dry it in any case, and then according to the circumstances.
Mary Poppins, well, while I got to this message, you yourself have come to the correct conclusions. Withering is a very important process! The Chinese, Japanese and Indians do not make tea without withering ...
lappl1
Quote: paramed1
That's it, I'm not distracted from the topic ... On the other hand, where else can you find a knowledgeable interlocutor ...
VeronicaMaybe this is prohibited by the rules of the forum, but I really like such deviations! Suddenly, unexpectedly for yourself, you learn so many new things!
lappl1
Quote: IvaNova
granulated I made the first batch of Ivan-tea, I don’t like granulated anymore, the leaf makes me happy
IvaNovaso your tea is loose! And I prefer the granules. Fortunately, our tea can be made this way and that! For every taste!
Mary Poppins
Quote: lappl1

Sometimes I imagine, when I collect the leaves, that maybe someone now, like me, is picking the leaves for tea. And it really warms the soul.
If I can please you, then please)) I now go as a maniac, look at different leaves, what else can I use in tea. I go constantly - I smell the tea that hangs to dry. I am pleased with the increasing quantity of tea and its improving quality. I want to have time to wind up as much as possible - the summer is over, the holidays too, from September 1 we are returning to the city and only next summer I will be able to make new supplies and test new methods))

But a month ago I was a normal person
But for this I will say only words of gratitude!

By the way, I turned a bucket of mint in a meat grinder, tamped down. After the dryer, it seems to me that 300-400 grams turned out, no more.

As for my frozen apple tree, I didn't wither the first batch. I understand from the topic that this is not necessary before the freezer.
I wanted to make a sheet by hand, and my sheet crumbled and unrolled.
So, in any case, you need to dry any sheet - even with a freezer, even without it; even for a meat grinder, even for a sheet.
Today I will put the withered in the freezer, one of these days I will try to make it on a sheet.
paramed1
Linadoc, so we are preparing for an increasing number of relatives! And I made tea this year too so that everyone would have enough, I want to count how much, but my hands do not reach.Strada, damn it!
Ludmila, we still have a fireweed on the edge under huge pines. Yesterday I dried about 2 kg. Today rain tore down the hike.
We taste tea that reaches its condition. Strawberries are very granular. The color of the granule is dark green, but the color in the cup is brown, beautiful. The husband approved, but with a remark: "And fireweed is tastier ... Next year should start in May." And he continues to tell his friends about the benefits and deliciousness of his tea. True, bypassing the story about the technical side of the matter ... But it still brings knowledge to the masses!
natushka
Quote: lappl1
but about the grill for beef stroganoff
Yeah, I did it, I didn’t know that it was called that, I was lying around for a long time, but the usual one was only small. This was my first try. Indeed, it turned out large-leaf. After brewing, it looks like a leaflet store.
lappl1
Quote: Mary Poppins
If I can please you, then please)) I now go as a maniac, look at different leaves, what else can I use in tea. But a month ago I was a normal person. But for this I will say only words of gratitude!
Mary Poppins, oh, you can't even imagine how pleased you are! Especially about how normal you were. And about the maniac ... My husband has long been calling me a tea maniac. He sees that I'm leaving with the bags, asks: "Are you going to maniac again?"
Quote: Mary Poppins
I understand from the topic that this is not necessary before the freezer.
In the recipe, I divided all the flavors into 3 groups - 1. those that are dry, 2. those that are freezing, and 3. those that are not dry, do not freeze, do not ferment. This is the girls themselves will bypass the withering process. I think that in vain. But for leaf tea, it is not necessary to dry the leaves - after the freezer they become softer, it is easier to twist the leaves and they do not crumble.
There is another way to prepare the leaves for rolling and fermentation. Haven't tried it yet. I want to try. You need 1 - 2 minutes to "fry" a fresh leaf in a large brazier over high heat. There is this stage in making red tea. I wanted to make a test in Cypriot, but, apparently, I will leave this venture next year. Maybe I'll try this method on raspberries. We have a lot of it in the vicinity.
lappl1
Girls, goodbye until tomorrow. We had a strong thunderstorm and the lights were turned off. The battery charge on the computer remains for 15 minutes. Good night everyone.

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