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Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class) (page 40)

lappl1
Quote: Loksa
I'll lay out the tea tomorrow, I don't know how red it will turn out. But what happened is what happened
Oksana, be proud of yourself - you are the first with red. I'm already proud of you!
paramed1
Loksa, no, this is a balm for horses for warming up and for muscle pain. And with intercostal neuralgia it helps only in this way. When I saw him for the first time, he was in a half-liter bottle ... But he helped quickly.
I don't even know what to do. The first thing that comes to mind is that it is necessary to treat it not from the outside, but from the inside, such as herpes or psoriasis ... ta-ta ... and then there is no time ...
You can try the trays with herbs, but it's not the harvesting season anymore. You are from St. Petersburg ... Such garbage grows to the south, the Japanese sophora is called. The tree is large, like an acacia. So, its fruits are very interesting. I found out about her when I was studying at the institute. There was a graduate student at the department, her son has an immunodeficiency. And I just got married, went to my relatives in Moldova and brought her two large packages of this Sophora from there. It helped. And the baths are very good for the skin of the hands. But it is poisonous, and is not included in the list of officially recognized medicinal plants.
If you decide to try the baths, tell me, we'll come up with it.
And our guru Lyudmila will soon fire us ... For sure.
yes, I counted dried tea. It turned out 18 liters of fireweed and 12 differently. But there are still raspberries, strawberries, mountain ash, cherries ahead.
lappl1
Quote: paramed1
Lyudmila will dismiss us soon ...
Veronica, Why so? For offtopic? So such topics are no less interesting to me than about tea! Moreover, they are connected. Oksana suffered from tea, now she needs to be treated. Where to write about this? Here, of course. So, offtopic to your health!
Quote: paramed1
counted dried tea. It turned out 18 liters of fireweed and 12 differently.
Wow! Solid! Keep it up !
Loksa
Quote: paramed1

It turned out 18 liters of fireweed and 12 differently.
NICE - shock work !!!
And I haven't counted mine yet, well, I have exactly less.
The fruits of Sophora are pods or something, you should try to order it, I've seen this in Khmilnik. Of course I will try! !!!! Do you need pods or peas? Oh, I'll be like Pryntsesska on a Pea

As for the red tea, those twists that did not dry out around the edges were spinning well again, besides, I then cut it (it was fermented for 7 hours for twisted and not cut, not hot)
GenyaF
Oksana, do you want me to pick up that sophora for you, we have it like shoe polish all over the streets? Only Veronica will tell us what to collect and when? Still green pods or already with ripe peas?
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
As for the red tea
So how long did you fry it? And in what? What volume? What is tea made of? Did you close the lid when frying?
lappl1
Zhenya, Hi! You haven't visited us for a long time ...
Loksa
lappl1, for tea I answer: in the same amount I had: rose leaves, yoshta leaves, raspberry tops, strawberry leaves - I definitely did not weigh, by eye the same amount and ended together. I took a leaf (1-2) of strawberries into it the top of a raspberry, into it a rose, into it a yoshtu 4-5 small. I twisted the whole thing to the farm. It took me 7-8 hours (night). In the morning I got up and DECIDED to make the red tea method for the sake of interest, benefit for. Then she warmed up in a frying pan with a closed lid (hot from the oven, as for bread), warmed in the oven; maybe it was necessary to spread it on a cold one? Warmed for 10 minutes - could not stand it any longer, oh yes, the oven temperature was somewhere 70-100 + ~ -.
Can it heat better on gas? But then you have to interfere and he sends. The temperature should be LESS, probably, the degree should be specified. I think it will not be superfluous to steam in the oven, because the dried edges crumble with further twisting. As I understand it, it is necessary to heat it without drying it. Further, most of the twists OPENED a little, (like a shell) and then I twirled them all over again, and cut them - perhaps there was no need to cut, but when cutting, the juices are also mixed - on the cut (I thought so: vylezti: hee-hee) ... It was funny to cut, they soared a little inside and were warmer. There is something to think about.
Perhaps something worked out, but the experience is very crude.
Loksa
GenyaF, Oh, I am happy, but how do you catapult her-Sophora to me? Need to think. Veronica will write what exactly you need to collect.
Lyudochka I'm very much about the temperature (during heating) - I'm not sure, but I had no time to dig an Internet, time was running out
I'll brew a little later and attach a photo to the message, morning coffee! (Bucket)
paramed1
GenyaF, whole pods must be straight. Green or dried, no difference. They have several pods at the sophora type on a twig. So this whole structure must be torn. We collected it in December. It's just that a different amount must be brewed, that's the whole difference. In Moldova, whole streets are planted with it, and the asphalt is disgusting green-brown from the juice of crushed pods ...
Loksa, if you get a sophora, you will have to buy something else in the pharmacy. It's too late to collect.
And I'm wilting fireweed again ... I think it's the last one this year.
Loksa
paramed1, if I get it, I'll write in a personal? We no longer have fireweed - nearby
GenyaF
Lyudochka, I appear regularly, but I don't write. I've already poured cherry, peach, raspberry, apricot and silk teas, I'm waiting for a cold snap to pick up more pink, almond and grape ziziphus leaves, there is also a pomegranate. And in the heat of the steppe I can't get out for chicory.
Oksana, we will somehow resolve the issue of delivery. There are options, but now it’s hotter, I don’t go outside. It gets a little colder, I'll go out for the prey
Veronica, we have this thing also growing through the streets.
lappl1
Zhenya, I'm glad you're making tea. I read about ziziphus in Yandex, I was impressed! There are tannins there, which means that the leaf should ferment well. Therefore, the tea should turn out good. But chicory is not so harmless. True, fermentation can change its properties, but still.
In general, Zhen, go for it! We are waiting for your impressions of tea made from new plants for us.
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
Lyudochka I'm very much about the temperature (during heating) - I'm not sure, but I had no time to dig an Internet, time was running out
Oksana, so I have a link about red tea. It seems to me that you did a little wrong. In general, you need to delve deeper into the process. I read and read everything, but there are moments that are not technically clear for me.
Loksa
lappl1, yes there is a lot of things to understand, I said, the attempt smells by the way, not raspberries, but a mixture of aromas, a rather interesting smell, and the color looks like green tea.
GenyaFThank you, Mulberry - I love her very much. They say it grows here and even bears fruit, maybe I'll try to plant it.
GenyaF
Luda, I want to pick up cyclic chicks to try making a drop-down tea ball according to the recipe of Galina Iv. There are no other flowers now, I don’t want marigolds, roses should still bloom, but for now only chicory
paramed1
Loksa, write to e-mail. But whistle here in parallel, since I am almost constantly in the village until the end of October, it is difficult to watch the mail.
GenyaF, and chicory flowers will give a bitterness, and the color may go away during drying and storage. Light blue. Strong red, purple, yellow.
Loksa
Of course not; violations: from the tops (all raw materials are apical), fermentation in a warm (mine is not very warm and longer) moist, partial destruction of the leaf - not quite twisting, the temperature of the secondary heating is not clear, but again wet heating, as I wrote already, and only after that complete twisting. There will be difficulties - not overdry and the time of all processes must be selected.And there is also a repeated fermentation, after the second twisting, the second warming up in a warm, damp one - I finally missed that.
In any case, the tea turned out to be not bad, the color is amber-transparent and some kind of strength is present, it is interesting that he liked the strength of HtoDal !!!
Well, I'll definitely do it again - girls, catch up on the experiment! Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
GenyaF
Oh, Veronica! Thank you. I thought ... I walked around the garden, only the marigolds remained and the mirabilis. ABOUT! soon more oak trees - chrysanthemums will begin to bloom, I have a couple of dozen different varieties. But it's interesting - the chrysanthemum leaves will be in the tea ... I went and sniffed, they stink of medicines, I will not ferment them.
Loksa
GenyaF, mirabilis - I adore it, but you have no dried flowers? They must keep the color exactly.
natushka
Loksa, about the hands .. Try to make baths with fragrant chamomile, which is without white petals. Brew and keep it as hot as you can in this tea leaves, only then do not wipe it off. Mom's hands were dry, right up to cracks, she did this and then never knew what dry hands were, never used creams, and her skin was like silk.
IvaNova
Quote: GenyaF

I walked around the garden, only the marigolds remained and the mirabilis. ABOUT! soon more oak trees - chrysanthemums will begin to bloom, I have a couple of dozen different varieties. But it is interesting - the chrysanthemum leaves will be in the tea ... I went and sniffed, they stink of medicines, I will not ferment them.
it seems to me that marigolds can give bitterness
GenyaF
So I don't want them (marigolds)

Oksana, from the dried flowers we have a whole steppe of grass scorched by the sun, I'm joking. I do not like them and do not plant them. Is mirabilis edible or what? I went and chew, do not remember it dashingly, if I don’t come back
Loksa
You don’t have to chew a lot, maybe it won’t get through: pomidor: I don’t know, I didn’t chew, but I’ll try, I don’t have her or his Mirabilis this year. Echinacea is now blooming with us - you have probably already faded, and this one, like His Monarda. very good in tea.
francevna
Has anyone made chestnut tea? While I thought about it, our entire chestnut alley dried up in a few days. Autumn came much earlier. I thought I’m still gathering jids, but it’s dry too. And starting on Tuesday we seem to be returning to normal temperature.
Ludmila, I haven't voted for the second time. Maybe I'll find something else, I want to decide on the tea after aging.
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
In any case, the tea turned out to be not bad, the color is amber-transparent and some kind of strength is present, it is interesting that he liked the strength of HtoDal !!! Well, I'll definitely do it again - girls, catch up on the experiment!
Oksana, tea is beautiful! And what else will happen after exposure !!! You're doing fine ! Who gave him the fortress? So you gave it! In general, definitely, you need to have time to do this, trying to adhere to the technology to the maximum. I hardly make loose leaf tea. And then you have to do this.
lappl1
Quote: GenyaF
Luda, I want to pick up cyclic chicks to try to make a drop-down tea ball according to the recipe of Galina Iv.
Zhenya, then another matter! Only it is better to dry them in a dryer - it retains its shape and color well.
By the way, marigolds you don't like look very nice when dried. I haven't made tea according to Galina's recipe yet. Dried roses, chamomile, monarda, marigolds, marigolds. Even, hands have not yet reached this tea.
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
and this one is like his monard. very good in tea.
Oksana,! Have you tried? I have this monard with fireweed. Awesome tea!
lappl1
Quote: francevna
I haven’t voted for the second time. Maybe I'll find something else, I want to decide on the tea after aging.
Alla, it's not scary! You will have time!
lappl1
Quote: francevna
Has anyone made chestnut tea?
Alla, no one did, in any case, they did not write about it. I read about the chestnut. Very useful, but not a word about the leaves - they write about fruits, bark and flowers.
paramed1
Loksa, here Natushka wrote about chamomile, but I didn’t tell you about it, I thought that with your problem you certainly tried it. But you can bath chamomile pharmacy, it is more affordable. And I have sclerosis, I forgot about the golden mustache.Exactly what they do with it with a hand smear. But the recipe is in Moscow. I'll go when I find it. Still, not as exotic as Sophora.
GenyaF, marigolds should not give bitterness. There are not many of them, just as an additive. And chrysanthemums - that's how they make tea in Japan, that is, with them. The chef somehow brought it. Unusual, but delicious. And it's beautiful how it should turn out - such a yellow or lilac chrysanthemum blooms in a glass ...
Linadoc
Something notifications have stopped coming from the topic. So I decided to write a message about chrysanthemums. I didn't make the leaves, but dried the flowers and added them to tea, I really liked it!
Loksa
lappl1, of course I tried, for some time now I am not indifferent to her. For three years I grew a bush - I was shaking so over it that when I decided to cut off the leaves this year, my husband shoved me into the neck and had to: secret: quietly hide in the bushes in the evenings and pull - Schaub did not see the mother-in-law, too, when they were not was But if honestly thuya did not impress me
. francevna, Veronica nobody made chestnuts, and you have green leaves? Not dry? Veronica and chestnuts in dry tea
Of course there are no chestnuts, but the flowers smell delicious.
I think Chestnut is a monumental tree - very beautiful.
Loksa
And I have not voted yet, I have been waiting for a month, but Th two times is it possible ?!
Can make clay with chamomile infusion - great warm! Tomorrow I'll buy clay (I'm not at the dacha) and try.
Linadoc
Oksana, I only added juniper to the clay when I put the Russian oven for myself and my mother-in-law. And why chamomile, for cosmetic purposes? It is possible, but plus colorless henna and an egg, but that's in another section.
Linadoc
Climbed on a pine tree, but the downpour, got off, climbed onto a new chicken coop - 5m, slate, catches no worse than pine 12-13m. While I am painting and insulating, I have a new "studio".
francevna
Oksana, chestnuts with green leaves are gone. It is a pity that I did not have time to make tea.
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
Can make clay with chamomile infusion - cool warm! Tomorrow I'll buy clay (I'm not at the dacha) and try.
Oksan, do not buy that clay! Do not buy! She is expensive! To make a chatterbox, you need to lay out a fortune in a pharmacy. Wait for the trip to the dacha. Or ask someone to bring it. When I first used clay as a remedy, I took it from the neighbors from a heap (they were building something). Then, after the first procedure, I was amazed by its action. Then we collected it with sacks from the outskirts of Alma-Ata.
And you need to dilute the clay with water or a decoction (infusion) of herbs only room temperature... Hot water deprives the clay of some of its useful properties. To dilute clay even better with a decoction / infusion of medicinal herbs... The effect is amplified. So feel free to use chamomile. Just first make an infusion or decoction, cool, and then add to the clay.
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
when I decided to cut off the leaves this year, my husband pushed me into the neck and had to quietly hide in the bushes in the evenings and pull - Schaub was not seen
almost a detective story! This is how we get the tea! We take it from our neighbors, sometimes stealthily from our relatives!
lappl1
Quote: Linadoc
climbed onto a new chicken coop - 5m, slate, catches no worse than pine 12-13m. While I am painting and insulating, I have a new "studio".
Linadoc, with a chicken coop will be better! And the area is larger, and the fall is not high (mmm).
Quote: Linadoc
And why chamomile, for cosmetic purposes?
we can say so - we will treat Oksankina's hands for dryness.
Quote: Linadoc
Something notifications have stopped coming from the topic.
I do. The defense industry is blocking your message ...
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
And I have not voted yet, I have been waiting for a month, but Th two times is it possible ?!
when you vote, then okay ... No, we vote once. It's just that I reset the first vote at the request of the workers - I added new plants there.
Linga
Lyudmila, what's wrong with chicory? I aimed at him here, I read how to process the roots. And suddenly - you do not recommend ...
Loksa
lappl1I didn’t know that they only dilute clay with warm water, at the dacha this kind of good is found, of course they will bring it.
And what about green chestnuts is there to try? I will not be in the city, it hurts strong: spiteful: tea will turn out from exhaust
Ludmila, what if the red tea is heated a second time covered with a damp towel in a water bath in the oven? Is it similar to their method? Or take your bowl of leaves to the bathhouse?
lappl1
Quote: Linga
what's wrong with chicory? I aimed at him here, I read how to process the roots. And suddenly - you do not recommend ...
Linga, I somehow saved a child with chicory.Savages rested on the shore of Issyk-Kul. He developed severe diarrhea. She brewed chicory and gave it to drink. dealt with the problem in a day. So I respect him.
But after Zhenya's message that she wanted to go to the steppe for chicory, I decided to read about its composition - are there any tannins that allow better fermentation? And this is what I met:

Chicory is one of the most commonly used plants to fight various diseases. It has anti-inflammatory, diuretic, vasodilator, choleretic, sedative properties, and this is only a small fraction of its beneficial qualities. Nevertheless, it should be noted that if for some chicory is simply an indispensable drug, for others, on the contrary, it is an extremely dangerous product. Therefore, to complete the picture, it is necessary to know exactly all the contraindications of chicory when used.

Any beneficial medicinal plant should never be consumed "blindly" without consulting a qualified homeopathic physician. So the use of chicory can bring not only benefits, but also harm. It is extremely dangerous for people suffering from diseases of the cardiovascular system, since it has a vasodilator effect and significantly stimulates the work of the heart muscle. It also poses a danger to those who suffer from gastric diseases, especially with stomach and duodenal ulcers. It is necessary to take it with caution for any vascular disease, as well as for varicose veins.

In chronic bronchitis and bronchial asthma, it is also contraindicated. If you are a fan of chicory drink, then you should be wary of insomnia, neurasthenia, depression. This warning is especially true for hot-tempered people with an unstable psyche. In case of joint pain, the use of compresses with chicory is contraindicated due to the possible appearance of pain in the joints and spine.

Contraindications to the use of chicory also apply to a coffee drink made from it.


Linadoc
Oksana, it is better to take your husband to the bathhouse and splash ilan-ylang on the stones. Listen, it turned out to be very good on the roof - the stars are visible, and the crickets are heard, and the Internet is caught and in the warm rain it is normal ...
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
I did not know that clay is diluted with warm water only
Oksan, not warm! A room temperature
Quote: Loksa
What if the red tea is heated a second time covered with a damp towel in a water bath in the oven? Is it similar to their method? Or take your bowl of leaves to the bathhouse?
Here's what exactly needs to be done, so do not twist the rolls for the first time, but just crush the leaves after withering so that they partially collapse. Maybe take it with you to the bathhouse. It seems to me that this is very similar to the method of "sweating". We read:
Quote: lappl1
In contrast to the production of black tea, the green leaf is dried in the sun on bamboo or paper braids, sometimes heated over a fire or in a room with heated air. After drying, the effect of enzymes does not stop: the raw materials are slightly damaged and kept at a certain temperature to develop oxidative processes and enhance aroma formation. Under these conditions, fermentation begins at the damaged edges of the leaf blades, and not in the entire mass of the leaf.
Quote: lappl1
The purpose of the first twisting and fermentation of the leaf is not so much to give the leaf a twisted shape, but to partially damage the cells of some parts of the flush (up to 30–35%). The first twisting destroys the delicate parts of the flush, in which deep oxidative transformations take place, giving the leaf all the properties of fermented tea. The rest, most of the leaf blade does not undergo significant changes.
And then you can go to the bathhouse. We read again:
Quote: lappl1
Subsequent processes - heat treatment in the form of toasting, drying, many hours of exposure after heating in closed boxes or hot boilers - also endow the tea leaf with some characteristic features.
Oksan, here you started with red! Well done !
Today I picked fireweed, but there are a lot of plans besides tea, so again the red one flies by.
lappl1
Quote: Linadoc
Look, the rooftop turned out pretty good
Linadoc, of course! The main thing is not dangerous!
IvaNova
Quote: lappl1

Here's what exactly needs to be done, so do not twist the rolls for the first time, but just crush the leaves after withering so that they partially collapse.
can not crush them, but fall asleep in a bag and lightly tap with a meat mallet?
I think it is for destruction
lappl1
Or you can walk over the leaves with a rolling pin. Or how to mash cabbage.
Galina Iv.
Hello everyone! Mary popins, dear, all weekend laughed at your statement: but a month ago I was a normal person I am awarding you a prize for this wise truth
And right now, about my deeds this weekend. My husband, apparently at the beginning of summer, mowed willow-tea bushes on our site. This weekend, I was prowessing my dacha spaces and my eye stopped on something pink, so this is Ivan-tea, my legs ran there themselves, as if they were wearing speed boots, Ivan-tea, but absolutely close by! There was no limit to my surprise: from each internode new shoots with young and tender leaves grew !!! mmmmm
Conclusion - if you want to extend the Ivan-Chayevsky period and you have a favorite meadow, then do not be lazy, pinch the tops of your heads in May and early June and in late summer and early autumn you will be happy again.
Further, I write for those who are afraid of a sharp reduction in the areas of willow-herb: this will not reduce its number, it blooms with might and main, and besides, it reproduces by rhizomes.
Oksana, aka Loksa, she's a tea-maker, I can bring blue Cambridge clay for you from the dacha

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