Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

Last year I even had a growth in my palm from twisting

Girls, and my hands are constantly (and manicure) brown, not comme il faut, I'm the director! You can't twist with gloves!

[Lucilia]

Lucilia, Do it as conveniently!

and it leaves before winter in green berries

I assure you, 100%, before winter, that is, when you are sure that it will not ripen anymore, break the bouquets of raspberries with green berries and into the water ...., wake up to eat ripe raspberries for a long time !!!!!

I didn't think of that! Rather, I did not even imagine this, Lyuda, thank you!

[kubanochka]

kubanochka, Helen, PM is not available from you, please open it. Or look at the regular mail, I wrote you a message there.

She's gone again, enta Kubanochka! Where is my magic wand?

[Radushka]

Radushka, about the garden. Kharkiv and ours, for example, are quite the middle lane - two big differences. I remember the techniques used in the south, that is, in Moldova, some are completely unacceptable for us - the duration of the warm period varies too much. Luda, sorry for off topic! No more boo!

[Veronicek]

Luda, sorry for off topic! No more boo!

Veronicek, nothing wrong! Very useful info! I, too, became convinced of the justice of what you said when you moved from the sultry climate to Central Russia. So, for example, for a long time I did not understand why it was necessary to make the beds not at the soil level, but be sure to raise them. But the first rainstorm explained everything to me. And so many more nuances.

[Chamomile1]

Chamomile1, Lena does not go into this topic. Only in the gazebo. And that's not often. You can only get it out by writing to an e-mail.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Looked at her latest posts, they were from this topic. Her personal is overflowing.

[Lucilia]

Lucilia, you need to paint your nails with black varnish

[Loksa]

Loksa, Oksana, for sure, and so that your hands are tanned to an African color

Meat grinder to help! And your hands are always clean!

[filirina]

filirina, Irina, I, for example, do not like a meat grinder, I need to hold it through my hands and heart, most likely so. And I dry only in a frying pan, constantly stirring gently again with my own hands. Here I am so picky).

you need to paint your nails with black varnish

Notice! I got an oversight with an apple seagull. I already wrote, the hurricane tore off a huge apple branch, I hardly pulled it into the shade to work, and in the evening I robbed it. The leaves were already withered like rags hung. Twisted it. The granules turned out wonderful, I put them on fermentation with the hope that in the morning, before work, I will fry them. Fermented for 7 hours. But the smell that I already knew did not appear ... and there was not. The color has changed of course, but I think it has oxidized, from the metal of the meat grinder. Amber color and fruity smell did not wait! I did everything right, strictly on the topic. The house is 30-32 degrees, it's even warmer outside. Girls, what did I do wrong? You may see an error!

[Lucilia]

Lucilia, Lyudmila, I think I fermented a little, I ferment everything for at least 12 hours and up to 24 hours.

[Luda]

Girls, what did I do wrong? You may see an error!

Luda, firstly, it is too early to judge about tea. You know. Secondly, the temperature above 30 * does not allow many enzymatic processes to pass. I wrote about this in the recipe. Try placing the container with the fermented mass in the coolest room. And better on the floor. The temperature is always lower there.

I think I fermented a little, I ferment everything for at least 12 hours and up to 24 hours.

Galya, I ferment all garden sauces for no more than 10 hours. Basically - 6 hours. And at a temperature like Lyuda's, after 24 hours you can get an unpredictable result.

Live and learn)

[Lucilia]

Lucilia, Lyudmila, did you make your last apple tea from the leaves from this apple tree? From different sorts of derkvy and tea so different turns out - even surprising. On the one hand, fragrant, tasty, and on the other, absolutely none, and the color is different. I already have the neighbour's apple trees, all of which are written, where and for what.

I already have my neighbor's apple trees

I remember, I remember how you nailed the plaques, right into the trunk.

it's good that Veronica is not my neighbor

I already have the neighbour's apple trees, all of which are written, where and for what.

Well, young ladies, you and maniacs!
No, I haven't gotten to that yet!

I haven't gotten to that yet!

but there is nothing to renounce)))

[filirina]

No, I haven't gotten to that yet!

filirina, Ira, and I started from this! My first garden scent tea was from a neighbor's cherry. It is checked that you can and should take from neighbors. They do not mind if they are treated with tea and some buns. By the way, I got the snakehead just after I baked Hungarian bread according to the Mistletoe recipe and just took it to my neighbor without any requests. Then I took a lot of things from her - from leaves to petals.

it's good that Veronica is not my neighbor

Oh, you're lying, Checkmark, oh you're lying. You would be happy if Veronicek lived next to you. Ollichka, again, is nearby.
And I would give Veronica all my apple trees. I have more than 20. I'm not sorry.

[Tonechki]

Oh, you're lying, Checkmark, oh, you're lying

You would be happy if Veronicek lived next to you.

unfortunately this is a pipe dream.
That would be all side by side !! Have Tonechki they would buy milk, sour cream, cottage cheese, Lina eggs, fashion))), Allka and Elka would guard our houses, Luda would grow tomatoes, cucumbers for snacks increased appetite, and in the evening everyone would flock to the chicken coop ... taking with them the most fragrant bread, sous-vide, jars of honeysuckle ...

Aha, how cunning! And who would sit on the bread maker? What should those in the tank do?

Hello! Everything seemed so simple until it came to fermentation. The room is cool. I use the meat grinder method. So far, for the sample I made 4 cups of leaves 7-10 cm high.
I realized that it is very important to provide heat no more than 26 degrees, humidity and air access. And then I got confused reading the forum and the answers.

We make moisture due to wet cotton fabrics covered on top. And if, after the meat grinder, the wet granules did not work out, but dry dust turned out, then it is necessary to sprinkle water on the tea itself? How often and how much water should you spray? If the height of folded leaves in a cup is 7-10 cm, will the lower layers receive this moisture for even distribution?

Air access will be due to the plate not completely closed from above. Right? Then why do many people write that they wrapped their bowls completely in blankets or put them on top of a pillow? How does the air get through? How to properly cover with blankets in a cool room?

There was also advice not to open the first 3-4 hours and not to look into the vessels with fermented tea, so as not to disrupt the oxidative process and warming up the mass. Does this mean not taking off the plates and not looking under the wet towel?
Thank you. I hope I get some goodies too.

[Galina Iv.]

Galina Iv., Pebble of dreams!
And I would just give cottage cheese (blockage in the summer).

[filirina]

filirinaIrochka, I will say in the truest sense of the word: neither you nor us need tanks, get out of them and let's go to us too, the list of residents nearby is not closed!
eeeh, again we are talking on the wrong topic!

[Galina Iv.]

Galina Iv., Gal all in the gazebo. And then they will scold.

Sveta, why did you get dry dust? Overwhelmed? In general, only rolls are sprinkled, and there is enough moisture from the meat grinder. What leaves did you make? Sometimes I hide it in a bag to keep it warm.
Yes, it’s better not to look in the first hours, so that it warms up, and then I periodically open the bag, smell it, don’t take off the plate, the smell is “audible”. Most importantly, do not be afraid, everything will work out, and when it works out, then you will not be forced to give up tea making.
Ladies, go to the gazebo with extra bazaars!

Of course, I didn’t fry it, I left it until evening, but today I’ll definitely fire it, anyway. Lyudmil, and the colder place is in my refrigerator, we have a heat under 40 ", we don't sleep at night, we die!

[Light 7 light]

So far, for the sample I made 4 cups of leaves 7-10 cm high.

Light 7 light, something confuses me this moment. Why 4 cups separately and not all together? Both the height and the volume of the fermented mass must be sufficient. How many leaves did you have in total?

I realized that it is very important to provide heat no more than 26 degrees

It is desirable, but up to 30 * is not critical.

And if, after the meat grinder, the wet granules did not work out, but dry dust turned out, then it is necessary to sprinkle water on the tea itself? How often and how much water should you spray? If the height of folded leaves in a cup is 7-10 cm, will the lower layers receive this moisture for even distribution?

The leaves of which plants were taken for tea? The dust is obtained from raspberries, h / currants and any not withered leaves... Have you dried them?
It seems to you that the mass is dry. Enough moisture, don't worry. And splashing is not necessary. And with juicy leaves it is even harmful.

How often and how much water should you spray? If the height of folded leaves in a cup is 7-10 cm, will the lower layers receive this moisture for even distribution?

Forget splashing altogether. The leaves will have enough.

Then why do many people write that they wrapped their bowls completely in blankets or put them on top of a pillow? How does the air get through? How to properly cover with blankets in a cool room?

Fermentation is carried out by anaerobic bacteria that live without air access. And due to the oxygen in the air, oxidation occurs. It is not possible to block the air supply with blankets. And oxygen has time to oxidize the granules at the moment of twisting. This can be clearly seen in the photo with mint in the recipe. So these experiences can also be ruled out.

There was also advice not to open the first 3-4 hours and not to look into the vessels with fermented tea, so as not to disrupt the oxidative process and warming up the mass. Does this mean not taking off the plates and not looking under the wet towel?

This advice was given mainly to those who, after 5 minutes, opened the container and sniffed the tea, worried that they would miss the strongest smell, which serves as a signal for the end of fermentation. I wrote that you can safely not check for 3-4 hours.
Light 7 light, You are very attentive and remember what you read well. This is very encouraging.

I can be accused of not thinking through everything to the smallest detail and laying out a crude recipe. Firstly, I laid out the recipe according to which I made tea for 2 seasons. And everything worked out for me. Secondly, when I laid out the recipe last year, I myself did not know a lot (in terms of theory). I did not graduate from tea institutes, there is very little information about the production of traditional tea, and even more so about tea from the garden. It is very difficult for us, not biochemists, to understand all the complexity of biochemical processes. But we are trying.
In the last tea season, all members of the forum did a lot of work on the preparation of tea, including research. I tried to reflect this experience in the new edition of the recipe. I corrected it and supplemented it with new information, which was not there at the beginning of June. I made the last change today (not significant, not affecting the quality of the tea).
Therefore, if you have not re-read the recipe for a long time, then please do it now. So, for example, in the recipe, I completely excluded freezing as a way of preparing the leaves for fermentation. But I left it as a method that greatly facilitates the processing of leaves after withering. Why excluded? Because at the time of laying out the recipe, I used freezing only on raspberries and currants. And when everyone began to use it for any leaves, and without withering, tea began to turn out worse. But we made sure last year that withered and then frozen leaves give great tea. Therefore, I also adjusted the recipe.Scientists are also mistaken. We are not scientists, and there is practically no theoretical basis for this recipe. It is very difficult for one person to conduct research work during 2 seasons. But all of the forum is much easier to do. Which we did last year. And now we continue to do it.
Now, after your post, I will completely exclude spraying the leaves with water from a spray bottle. I'll clean it up right now. Because now I know that excess moisture kills the taste of tea. But I would very much like to shout to everyone that it is imperative to pay attention to the quality of the drying, the fermentation conditions (especially the volume, temperature) ... I highlighted this in the recipe in bold. But not everyone, unfortunately, still does not see it. As well as many others.

[Lucilia]

Lyudmil, and the colder place is in my refrigerator, we have a heat under 40 ", we don't sleep at night, we die!

Lucilia, Luda, I have a question. Not at all in the subject. And in principle, not to you alone.
Why do you, southerners, suffer all summer and do not provide yourself with a normal temperature regime with the help of air conditioners? Just do not say that they spoil the air and catch a cold. If it is ok to hang it (under the ceiling) and open the windows at night, then everything will be fine. In any case, no more harmful than 40 * and the inability to breathe normally at this temperature.
I know what I'm talking about. She herself lived in such a climate. And we all had air conditioners - first Soviet, then modern. And with modern air conditioners, it's generally beautiful - you don't notice it at all (it's quiet and doesn't blow on you). When I came home, the first thing I did was turn on the air conditioner at 22 *. And then you could immediately live, and not suffer. By the way, my husband cursed at me, but when he fell asleep, I opened the windows and turned on the air conditioner. It was getting chilly and we rescued with fresh air. It's okay that the air conditioner worked for a long time and turned the counter. Health is more important. And 2 - 3 months of life with air conditioning will definitely not ruin.
Well, now about tea. The air conditioner would definitely not damage the tea ...
Luda, I cannot change the climate for you. But I can advise you to put on an air conditioner. Or - wait for autumn ... Then everything will turn out ... But the normal leaves, probably, will be gone.

... On the one hand, fragrant, tasty, and on the other, absolutely no

?? I mixed. I have 6 apple trees. And here, after a thunderstorm, with only one apple tree! Really?

Not at all in the subject

Lyudochka, I have a conder at home, but not at the dacha! Although, to be honest, I do not use it at home and do not allow my relatives, I have a terrible "quirk" disease of legionnaires. Many have tried to convince me, but my fear is stronger.

I have a terrible "quirk" disease of legionnaires. Many have tried to convince me, but my fear is stronger.

Lyudok, don't be afraid, I won't persuade you.
Then put the container of tea in cool water and change it more often.

[Light 7 light]

Light 7 light, something confuses me this moment. Why 4 cups separately and not all together? It is desirable, but up to 30 * is not critical. The leaves of which plants were taken for tea? The dust is obtained from raspberries, h / currants and any not withered leaves... Have you dried them?

Now I will completely exclude spraying the leaves with water from a spray bottle. I'll clean it up right now. Because now I know that excess moisture kills the taste of tea. [Quote \]

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It's just that I did little to test from different leaves. Therefore, 4 different cups))
I dried the apricot but apparently dried it out and it turned out to be almost rotten. Even now I looked into the cup and there was dry dust on top. Think it won't interfere with proper fermentation? On top of the cotton towel lies very wet, but pulls water to sprinkle the apricot leaves.
Then the currants did not dry out, but immediately froze and, without letting it thaw after the freezer, immediately twisted it. It turned out both granules and dust.

I’ll go cover right with the top. And then my process does not heat up at all (I even stuck my finger into the cup .. and it’s cold inside .. just don’t swear, you couldn’t resist) If you put a blanket on top, can you remove the saucers?

And there is no thermometer at home to understand the temperature in the room.But it feels much colder than on the street 24 degrees. This is now broadcast on TV.

Then put the container of tea in cool water and change it more often.

Luda, and it is best to do this: wrap the tea container properly with plaid jackets. In this case, they will not let the heat into your tea - they will work like a thermos.

[Light 7 light]

Light 7 light, something you wanted to say? You only have quotes from my post, but no your text.

[Light 7 light]

Light 7 light, something you wanted to say? You only have quotes from my post, but no your text.

The computer rebooted at the most important place. My answer above has already been loaded); but somehow together with your answer.

Tell me, will the smell of grass disappear or can I throw out the tea?

Lyudochka, hello, finally I am also writing in this thread, in winter I was terribly behind you, and then I realized that I would not catch up with you. Sveta, you answered, just the answer fell into the middle of the link.

Sveta, the apricot leaf is very thin in itself, last year I made it leafy, the most delicious tea was. I would sprinkle it with water if it is completely dry dust, as you write. The apricot leaf is thin in itself, and with thin leaves there are nuances, you need to re-read the materiel for making tea from thin leaves.

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, you puzzled me: girl-q: How is it: open windows and turn on the air conditioner? After all, before turning it on, you must close the vents and even the doors where they are. Otherwise, the air conditioner starts dripping in the apartment, and then even a stream of water appears. The air conditioner is designed for a certain area. Or have I misunderstood?

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, I'm talking about the taste from my own experience ... A semi-wild huge apple tree in an abandoned garden gave out awesome tea, even in mono version. And the apple tree, with which we are treated to very tasty early autumn apples, is only for fruits. The tea made from its leaves is completely tasteless. I add these leaves to the currants and raspberries to make them strong granules when twisted.

[Light 7 light]

It's just that I did little to test from different leaves. Therefore, 4 different cups))

Light 7 light, if you do little, then the tea may not work. And you will be disappointed. Not less than 800 - 1000 gr. Then the fermentation will go right, well, if you provide it with other conditions.

I dried the apricot but apparently dried it out and it turned out to be almost rotten. Even now I looked into the cup and there was dry dust on top. Think it won't interfere with proper fermentation?

Light will interfere! Both small volume and dust. There is not enough juice in the dust to ferment. Water won't help. Because only the juice itself contains enzymesthat are involved in fermentation. No juice - no enzymes - no fermentation.

Then the currants did not dry out, but immediately froze and, without letting it thaw after the freezer, immediately twisted it. It turned out both granules and dust.

Sveta, I wrote that currants always give dust. Even freezing won't help. And raspberries from the same opera. There is only one way out - to make leaf tea as written in the recipe. Through withering and freezing.
There is one more way. Mix these leaves with others such as apple or pear or strawberries. It will turn out very tasty !!! And the granules will be great. Checked. In the fall, I took raspberries as a basis - 50 percent, and the rest - apple, pear, cherry, strawberry, black chokeberry. When I'll rip something. There is a link to Country Tea at the end of this recipe. Read it. A very good way out of this situation. Now I don't make mono teas at all. Mixes only.

I’ll go cover right with the top. Otherwise, the process does not heat up at all (I even put my finger in a cup .. and it’s cold inside .. just don’t swear, I couldn’t resist)

Sveta, your temperature is 36.6 *. Houses 20 + \ _. This temperature difference will give you a feeling of coldness. And now it's too late to wrap up. you need to do this at the very beginning. Anyway, your volume of leaves is unlikely to fix anything either.
I have a request for you: re-read the recipe, please.Consider which leaves you took - some can be processed in a meat grinder, some not. Make a normal volume with 1 kg of leaves. And everything will work out. I'm sure!
Sveta, I don't have an apricot, but heed Gaby-Vicky's advice. Make it sheet. And think about Village Tea, i.e. mixes. You will immediately feel the difference.

[Gaby]

Lyudochka, hello, finally I am also writing in this thread, in winter I was terribly behind you, and then I realized that I would not catch up with you. Sveta, you answered, just the answer fell into the middle of the link.

Gaby, Vikulya, hello! Well, you finally joined us. I am very glad to see you. Don't fade away, we missed you.

[stanllee]

Tell me, will the smell of grass disappear or can I throw out the tea?

stanllee, Maryana, you always have time to throw it out. Don't throw anything away. close, put in a dark place. Try it in a couple of months.
And read the recipe again. I feel that you have irregularities in the process of making tea.

[Natalishka]

you puzzled me How is it: open windows and turn on the air conditioner? After all, before turning it on, you must close the vents and even the doors where they are. Otherwise, the air conditioner starts dripping in the apartment, and then even a stream of water appears. The air conditioner is designed for a certain area. Or have I misunderstood?

Natalishka, strange air conditioner. Do not open windows and doors, because the air conditioner will then run smoothly. You're right, he works for a certain area. But I never closed the door. coolness reached other rooms due to the exchange of warm and cold air. And the water .. Yes, it dripped, but not in the house, but on the street. If it drips in the house, then the air conditioner is not working properly. I have never had this.
And at night I always opened the windows. The air conditioner worked smoothly. Only when they left the house did they turn it off.

read the recipe again. I feel that you have disturbances in the process of making tea.

yes, there are few leaves and in the region the fermentation is bad ((I know, I repent
my father-in-law collected 1 kg of fireweed and 500 g of wild pears for me, delivered them, they spent half a day in a bag, what is the best way to go into the freezer or let them dry? I will not spin rolls, there is no such time with a child. I want a meat grinder.