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Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class) (page 243)

Mrrr meow
Quote: Zachary

Put them in the freezer and then warm them up and use them as directed. Believe it won't get worse
Seeing my worries, my husband promises to bring a meat grinder tomorrow night .. but it's also not a fact that she will twist them .. maybe then put it in the refrigerator and not in the cold. camera?
lappl1
Quote: Murmyau
can while then put in the refrigerator and not in the cold. camera?
Mrrr meow, only in the freezer! Leaves can go bad in the refrigerator in 3 days. Read the recipe !!! That part of it that talks about freezing. The leaves will twist more easily.
Mrrr meow
Zachari, and in your photo I see leaves with tails ... do you remove them or twist them with them? And then I was tortured to tear them off from each sheet)))
Mrrr meow
Quote: lappl1

Mrrr meow, only in the freezer! Leaves can go bad in the refrigerator in 3 days. Read the recipe !!! That part of it that talks about freezing. The leaves will twist more easily.
And if for 1 day instead of 3 days?
lappl1
Quote: Murmyau
And if for 1 day instead of 3 days?
Mrrr meowwhy are you afraid of the freezer? It will only get better with him.
Quote: Murmyau
And then I was tortured to tear them off each sheet)))
Why tear off? Mrrr meow, again extremes.
Elena Kadiewa
Zakharushka, thanks for the beautiful seagulls and the new method!
Murmyau, do you generally read the answers to your questions? If you want to spoil the leaves, leave it like that, and they lay in the freezer for several months before processing.
Vasyutka
RadushkaTry adding leaves to brewed coffee.
Radushka
Vasyutka,
Quote: Vasyutka
Try adding leaves to brewed coffee.
That is, do not brew with them, and then add?
Vasyutka
Radushka, Yes. I am now drinking Jockey for brewing in a cup. I brewed it, went out into the street with a cup, plucked the peach leaves, put them in the cup. Coffee with Amaretto! She sat on the terrace in an armchair, legs on a chair. And I am not for 15-20 minutes for the family. In the evening too, just without coffee, green tea or boiling water and complete improvisation - lemon balm, mint, lavender, sage, rosemary, peach, ......... Only a dose at your discretion. Who loves what. One friend makes saffir from peach. I don't know how he drinks, bitterness.
Mrrr meow
Why am I afraid of freezers? Yes, because you answered this to the girl:
Quote: lappl1

Anya, if you haven't done it in a meat grinder yet, then slow down!
Girls! If you want to rotate the leaves in a meat grinder, then they do not need to be frozen! They can crumble!
They need to be dried before the meat grinder - then they will not turn into dust in the meat grinder.
In the recipe, I specially highlighted plants that cannot stand a meat grinder - currants and raspberries. So I began to freeze them, because then they easily turn into rolls and the tea does not crumble into dust!
And we wither all the rest and go to the meat grinder!
I have apples and cherries.
There was also a post that after the freezer the mass turned out to be too wet and sour
Luna Nord
Quote: elena kadiewa
and in the freezer we lay for several months before processing.
I did not have the opportunity to take Ivanushka and he was in the freezer, I got it out yesterday. When twisting, there was a lot of juice, but, which is typical: I fried the first part right away (after fermentation) and there was no time for the second, I was in a hurry to work, so I still stood, fermented for about 20 hours (I know, this is impossible) when I "bowed" to the pan, the raw material was very wet, much wetter than the first batch from the same bowl, but the smell was very strong, very thick and rich.I think that I did not spoil the tea, but dry fermentation will take place in different jars, then I will conduct a comparative analysis
Radushka
Lucilia, I also found "wet" tea more fragrant.
lappl1
Quote: Murmyau
Why am I afraid of freezers? Yes, because you answered this to the girl:
Mrrr meowYou are taking words out of context. I wrote to the girls that be sure to dry the leaves first.
You can see that I have highlighted the phrase in bold:
Quote: lappl1
They need to be dried before the meat grinder - then they will not turn into dust in the meat grinder.
Then I wrote:
Quote: lappl1
Girls, until you work out the process of making tea and understand its essence, it is better not to experiment. That's when everything starts to work out for one or two, then...
Quote: Murmyau
There was also a post that after the freezer the mass turned out to be too wet and sour
Of course, there will be a wet mass that can turn sour. After all if the leaves are not wilted, but immediately put into the freezer, then where to go to excess moisture? She will remain all over. Not only can the leaves crumble in a meat grinder, but fermentation is also bad. And the mass can sour under the wrong conditions.
And then, look at the date of the post - June 26th. It's only been 2 days since I posted the recipe. And the girls, who began to make tea, began to make mistakes. So I tried to stop them, suggesting to make tea as it is written in the recipe, and not experiment.
Then, during the season, we all fully realized the process, the technology was worked out, I corrected the recipe, adding a lot of information to it. You are already reading a verified revision of the recipe, which has been worked out by a large number of tea makers. If you follow it, you will always get tea.

Mrrr meow, You turned to the topic for advice. We came to your rescue by advising you to put the leaves in the freezer after you have dried them very well. Because we know that this is a great way to solve your problem. After withering, you decided to wrap the leaves in a cloth and leave them there for 3 days! Than they would be spoiled. Therefore, we persistently began to recommend to you what to do. Do you think that at night we would joke with you? Or not only at night, but in general to spoil your tea? We recommend you, but you doubt it! We recommend you again, but you doubt it again. Honestly, I don’t understand you. If you do not believe us, why are you asking?
Redhead
Today I picked up strawberry leaves, put them on wither. And now I sit and think, is there a difference to mix the leaves immediately, even before fermentation, or to mix two separately prepared teas. I'm talking about strawberries and cherries. Painfully fragrant first batch turned out. But I dried it separately, and fermented and dried in the oven together. Because the leaves individually turned out to be not enough for fermentation.
lappl1
Quote: Redhead
And now I sit and think, is there a difference to mix the leaves immediately, even before fermentation, or to mix two separately prepared teas.
Redhead, but what is there to think about? In the recipe I wrote that "Village teas" (mixes) are always tastier than mono teas. Almost everyone was convinced of this. And already few of the "oldies" prepare mono-teas. I - including. Fireweed - does not count. It needs to be cooked separately. Although the mixes with him are gorgeous.
In general, the taste and color ... Try, compare, draw conclusions for yourself. And share with us.
Mrrr meow
I think from my questions one can draw conclusions at what points in the recipe questions arise and how to correct the recipe text so that it does not have a double meaning or additional. questions.
Although, ideally, it is hardly possible to write everything)), since everyone has their own nuances in preparation and manufacturing, and therefore questions cannot be avoided at all. That's why he is a forum)))
This is when you already have experience, everything is easier and you can act more boldly)) I, for example, have a chance to collect leaves this season alone and I have been waiting for this opportunity since winter .. so I don't want to ruin everything.
Thank you.
filirina
Mrrr meow! Don't be afraid! Until you do it yourself, you will not understand the nuances! After all, everyone has their own varieties and different climatic conditions, and their perception of taste is different! Last year we started everything from scratch and didn't ruin anything. And if that didn't work out, it doesn't matter either! A negative result is also a result.
For example: everyone's adored cherry leaf tea did not go to me! Well, an intoxicatingly strong scent! So cherry tea, for me personally, has become a technical culture for the production of stronger drinks than tea.
vestitoleg1
Hello! You won't write a list of which mixes are best for your taste.
Luna Nord
Quote: vestitoleg1
your taste.
They all have their own. My family and I have become a favorite mix of: irga, pear, hawthorn, cherry, felt cherry, apple tree!
filirina
Quote: Lucilia
They all have their own.
That's right! I prefer mono-teas because I like light, not too bright aromas and delicate taste. (my favorite store tea was the so called white pu-erh tea)
and from the garden I love monoclubnik, monomaline and of course monokyprey!
Redhead
Quote: lappl1

Redhead, but what is there to think about? In the recipe I wrote that "Village teas" (mixes) are always tastier than mono teas. Almost everyone was convinced of this. And already few of the "oldies" prepare mono-teas. I - including. Fireweed - does not count. It needs to be cooked separately. Although the mixes with him are gorgeous.
In general, the taste and color ... Try, compare, draw conclusions for yourself. And share with us.

No, I was thinking exactly about at what stage to mix the leaves. While the recipe for rustic tea I read fluently. Since for a start I decided to master the preparation of mono-teas. But it was there that I realized that the leaves were mixed at once. And in some messages, the topic slips about mixing teas after preparation (of different types and with different fermentation times). So I wondered if there was a difference between mixing two ready-made teas and making a mix right away.

This time I'll probably try strawberries separately. I just want to study the behavior and aroma of different leaves separately. But the first strawberry-cherry tea that turns out smells just divine. I can’t wait any longer when I’ll brew it)
Redhead
What is most interesting, I have not yet found fireweed (I remember from childhood, dad showed me Ivan-tea. But here I somehow did not look for him. But now I needed it, and where it grows, I have no idea. While it is in my eyes Do not come across.Although arrange a family outing in search of fireweed)))
Mrrr meow
Quote: lappl1

Mrrr meow, deep at night You turned to the topic for advice. We gladly came to your aid, although it was long overdue to sleep. We advised you to put the leaves in the freezer after you have dried them very well. Because we know that this is a great way to solve your problem. After withering, you decided to wrap the leaves in a cloth and leave them there for 3 days! Than they would be spoiled. Therefore, we persistently began to recommend to you what to do. Note, I'm not alone! Do you think that at night we would joke with you? Or not only at night, but in general to spoil your tea? We recommend you, but you doubt it! We recommend you again, but you doubt it again. Honestly, I don’t understand you. If you do not believe us, why are you asking? If you are sure that you are right, well, do as you see fit. Only then do not be surprised if something went wrong with you.
I am very grateful for the advice to everyone! But how not to doubt and not to clarify if you wrote in one of the posts that after felting you can wrap it up and leave it in the same fabric for a long time! (I rewrote your answer to myself in the record). It turns out that this will spoil the tea and so it is impossible .. And during the discussion for the freezer, initially there was a speech and your answer in 3 days .. but since the period was significantly reduced to 1 day (and this is a big difference in time and can greatly change the storage options ) and the moment was not clear from the recipe that if the leaves are being prepared for a meat grinder, then you can (or need to) freeze them, but only after felting, of course I asked clarifying questions since there are no coincidences in the information.

Radushka
filirina, and do mono-raspberries and mono-strawberries do leafy or meat grinder?
lappl1
Quote: Murmyau
I think from my questions one can draw conclusions at what points in the recipe questions arise and how to correct the recipe text so that it does not have a double meaning or additional. questions.
Mrrr meow, I ask again - indicate the places in the recipe that have a double meaning or cause you additional questions. I will definitely correct or supplement them, as I do from time to time. If you look at the date the recipe was last edited, you will see that it was today. And yesterday I added links. And the day before yesterday. That is, I am open to dialogue, I carefully read each question and draw conclusions. Moreover, I ask the "old" tea-makers to read my recipes after corrections and express their opinion. You can check this by going to the Tea Gazebo.
In the meantime, I see that you simply do not carefully read the recipe. This is evidenced by at least your post in which you ask about whether it is possible to make tea from plums. Or another post where you ask about maple ... And about strawberries in the next post. Although the recipe says about them. And so is practically any of your questions. And generally speaking, I posted a recipe, not a book about tea... More information could be placed in the book. But this is not a book, but just a recipe. And I tried to make it as complete as possible, reflecting the WHOLE TEA PREPARATION TECHNOLOGY, which meets all the conditions for laying out recipes on the site. And I also listed in the recipe those plants from which the tea itself was made. She pointed out the principles by which you need to choose plants for tea. Made links to the main points regarding tea making. I try to answer questions in a timely manner, even at night. And all day long.
I ask you again. Please read the recipe. All I wanted to say, I told them. It seems to me that it can be used to make tea easily. Again, if you don't think so, indicate the places in the recipe that cause you difficulties.
inka_kot
lappl1Well, I don’t know how long has passed since the preparation of my tea. You were right after all! I started drinking it!
Before that, I could not at all, burdocks seemed to me like burdocks. I absolutely didn’t like the taste or smell. Although my husband already drank it avidly from the first day.
Probably a month has passed since I made it ... He stood and acquired a very strong aroma. I open the locker and it smells !!!! I tried it - TASTY!
I mix myself a pear, an apple and quite a bit of cherry. Like.

I put it aside for my sister, I will give it to Mariupol, maybe I will add her. And somehow the tea was practically over. * it is true that whoever missed the train does not go to grandmother *. I still want to do it. Can you harvest the leaves now? Or is it better to wait until the fruits are gone? Which tea is best?
Radushka
Quote: elena kadiewa
what dumb bastards we are
: girl_love: How many times have I kept myself from asking questions. I climbed into the recipe, shovel comments ... For myself, I decided that my mistakes are my experience. What if it turns out that what they are trying to dissuade me from turns out to be the very know-how? I'd better throw out the bad tea on the sly (read - I'll drink it in splendid isolation), but I will bring the manufacturing technology for myself, so to speak.
Radushka
inka_kot,
Quote: inka_kot
Can you harvest the leaves now?
this mix is ​​the first thing I did now. As soon as I read the recipe. Yummy! And they say that later it will be even tastier! Only ... he won't live to see
lappl1
Quote: Murmyau
if you wrote in one of the posts that after felting you can wrap it up and leave it in the same fabric for a long time!
Mrrr meow, In the recipe for Ivan tea, I wrote:
Quote: lappl1
So the leaves can lie long enough until we are free.
Listen, but not for three days !!!! Until we are free ... Well, I couldn't take into account that you have to leave for 3 days. Well, it is clear that if tea is prepared for a day, then three days is too much.
Quote: Murmyau
If you question the method of fogging from Zechariah as the correctness of the process and immediately want me to rely on his opinion?
Zechariah's method is fundamentally different from the sweating method. He has multiple shock freeze-thaw. And I did not recommend his method to you. I and he only recommended freezing the leaves, which will save your labor.
filirina
Quote: Radushka
do mono-raspberries and mono-strawberries do leafy or meat grinder?
I'm lazy! I pass everything through a meat grinder.The only thing is, I never ice, but only wither.
Galina Iv.
Irina, I really love raspberries, it is my second on the list after Ivan's tea, sometimes it seems that even on the first one (don't throw your slippers at me, you can only use cans of raspberries) and I make 90% leaf tea. I try to pick raspberries young, wither and in the freezer, then twist them with handles and cut them into small pieces and ferment them already cut.
Luna Nord
Lyudochka, thank you very much for your patience and science! My husband constantly says (when he drinks seagulls) - "Say thank you on my behalf to Lyudmila, he does such a great thing, he lived his life, and drank all kinds of der" "" mo " there is never too much! "
Luna Nord
Quote: Galina Iv.
wither and in the freezer
Galina, what am I not doing, raspberry does not want to obey me! And dried, and freezed, and minced, and cut, and rolled ... So I never made raspberries. Maybe I have something different?
filirina
In Temka everything is described, from and to, and a person who is enthusiastic will find or listen to advice himself. Thank you very much for your patience and warmth. It is a huge job to share with others your knowledge and experience, unfortunately, not always arousing gratitude from those gifted by you.
I love this Temko sincerely! And I always go into it, although I don't always write.
Galina Iv.
Lucilia, Lyudmila, yes she is, disobedient, rebellious, I twist it with my handles as soon as I get it out of the freezer, without defrosting, then it is juicier. For fermentation under oppression. and everything will work out !!!!
filirina
Quote: Galina Iv.
I really love raspberries, they are second in my list after Ivan tea, sometimes it seems that even on the first

I am also a fan of raspberries and strawberries (in a whisper: fireweed is also in 3rd place)
Galina Iv.
filirina, Irina, we may not be understood
Luna Nord
Quote: Galina Iv.
everything will work out !!!!
Thank you, Galina! I'll try again, and I've started so many times ... but didn't brag about failures, I think, okay, I'll do it ...
filirina
Quote: Galina Iv.
yes she is so naughty, rebellious,
I probably have a different raspberry! The tea turned out the first time and it turns out further, and with quite decent granules after a meat grinder, although many wrote that the granules crumble.
Radushka
Galina Iv., so I also now have very young leaves of raspberries (I break the tops. It's time, if anyone does not know). I would like to make mono tea. And season with dried berries. And call it "Crimson Ringing". I will skate, of course. Though, too lazy to death
Galina Iv.
Lucilia, Lyudmila, dear, here you can, you even need to brag about all the joys and failures - we are a family!
I always make from forest raspberries.
Anatolyevna
Radushka, Break off the tops of the young growth or of all the raspberries?
Galina Iv.
Radushka, oh, how interesting .. Raspberry ringing)).
Last year, I even had a growth on my palm from torsion))))), at first I was scared, and then it quickly passed.
inka_kot
Quote: filirina
and strawberries

Girls, how do you collect strawberry leaves? Well they are completely above the ground - dirty .. Wash? Or should you choose those that are cleaner?
Galina Iv.
The girls washed the leaves, and some even wash everything, then wither.
Radushka
Anatolyevna, at the growth that you leave for the next year to give birth. It is immediately clear what will be removed in the fall, and what will remain. As it grew up to my waist or up to my armpit, I broke it. Branches will begin to grow from the sinuses. In the spring, cut them off by 15-20 centimeters. There will be such a crimson tree. A trunk and two-three-four (as it comes out) branches. The harvest will not decrease. Only the plantation is better ventilated. Less fungal sores. The trunks are made thick. Then you can't cut it with an ordinary pruner. Need a brush cutter. I have been growing raspberries like that for many years.
Anatolyevna
Radushka, Very interesting information! It will be useful to many!
Galina Iv.
Quote: Radushka
In the spring, cut them off by 15-20 centimeters.
new side branches will go, but in our climate they will no longer have time to ripen (((, our remontant does not ripen a second time, and it leaves before winter in green berries. So the climate is different from the climate (((
Radushka
Quote: Galina Iv.
new lateral branches will go, but in our climate they will no longer have time to ripen (((, our remontant does not ripen a second time, and it leaves before winter in green berries. So the climate is different
You break it out first. Right now. It will be too late in July. Everything will ripen. And in the spring, don't you cut the ends?
There are always weak kidneys.
Galina Iv.
Radushka, Radushka, do not cut if they are alive.

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