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lappl1
Quote: Mila1
Lyudochka, the ardor has not died out I'm looking for the Masters And I'm waiting for new information, just in case, from the girls, suddenly they will add something else
Mila1, Well, thank God! Wait a little, soon Natalochka will make the scheme. She whispered in my ear ...
Quote: Emerald
Tea making is, in my opinion, an incurable disease
Emerald, Olya, yeah ... And infectious besides ...
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Irina M, Irochka, happy birthday !!!!
all the best and brightest in your life !!!
good luck in all your endeavors and of course in your tea work !!!
Emerald
Girls, can you store ready-made tea in plastic 5-liter bottles?
Elena Kadiewa
I think it's possible, only in the dark.
Natalo4-ka
Devchuli, brought the adjusted ruble scheme under Lyudochka's strict guidance

Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class

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lappl1
Quote: Emerald
Girls, can you store ready-made tea in plastic 5-liter bottles?
Emerald, Olga, wow! That's what I understand! This is the scope! That's right, why bother with small jars? I will take this idea into service.
Quote: Natalo4-ka
Devchuli, brought the adjusted ruble scheme under Lyudochka's strict guidance
Natalo4-kadear, thank you for taking on such a job! Now everyone can easily make this miracle adapt.
Girls and boys, in a day or two I will make a separate topic about the ruble, transferring into it all the information that has accumulated over this year. And I will make links to it wherever possible ...
space
Quote: Natalo4-ka
brought the adjusted, under Lyudochkin's strict guidance, the ruble scheme

Quote: Emerald
Can you store ready-made tea in plastic 5-liter bottles?
this is the scale
And today is my experiment day. I want to share with you.
I took Ivanushka 1050 grams and processed it on a ruble, it took -40 minutes
then I scrolled another portion of 1500g by email. meat grinder, time spent-the first time 27 minutes, the second 12 minutes, total -39 minutes.
I tried to knead, but this is not the way for me at all
I concluded for myself that it’s easier for me after all in a meat grinder
And I put the load on leaf tea about 8 kg
now I will determine my taste preferences for teas of different degrees of fermentation
lappl1
space, Lida, in a meat grinder, of course, it’s easier, I don’t argue ... And then you compare the result and write to us. Good?
Quote: space
And I put the load on leaf tea about 8 kg
Right! Just wondering what kind of cargo it is? Not a weight, by any chance?
Quote: space
now I will determine my taste preferences for teas of different degrees of fermentation
ABOUT! Good business. I am very interested in which tea you like the most. I myself will not speak yet, although you probably already know - I constantly write in topics about my favorite fermentation time ...
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Quote: lappl1
And then you compare the result and write to us. Good?
definitely, I'm interested in myself
Quote: lappl1
Just wondering what kind of cargo it is? Not a weight, by any chance?
I read Luda that you welcome a large load, so I tried
I had a 3-liter jar full, and on top the lead ingot was heavy, but compact
Quote: lappl1
I am very interested in which tea you like the most. I myself will not speak yet, although you probably already know - I constantly write in topics about my favorite fermentation time ...
I just want to try it myself and decide
I remember about your favorite terms of fermentation, now it’s just this and is being dried.
I also want to make a reserve so that the tea matures and has something to compare with.There are a lot of plans, but the leaves are no longer ice
And if, according to the results of the tasting, the leaf is in the lead, then of course I will do it on the ruble.
lappl1
Quote: space
on top, the lead ingot is heavy, but compact
space, Lida, well, with the kettlebell, I almost guessed. Well done!
Quote: space
I remember about your favorite terms of fermentation, now it’s just this and is being dried.
Oh, how nice that you remember what I am writing ...
Quote: space
I also want to make a reserve so that the tea matures and has something to compare with.
That's right, do it. There is never a lot of tea.
Quote: space
the leaves are no longer ice
Wow, early July, and the leaves are already drying? And I remember picking leaves in September. They were normal, only rude! Nothing, you let them through the freeze, if they are already dry and tough.
Emerald
Quote: lappl1
Wow, early July, and the leaves are already drying? And I remember picking leaves in September. They were normal, only rude! Nothing, you let them through the freeze, if they are already dry and tough.
Guard
I will only get to the village in mid-July ..
Everything, everything will dry up ...
I'll be left without tea ...
Natalo4-ka
Emerald, Olga, don't panic!
Last season my husband and I started making Ivan-tea on July 30 and managed to prepare seven three-liter cans of large-leafed tea. And you can cook garden ones until October.
You will succeed, I'm sure
Emerald
Natalo4-ka, reassured
True, because there are still different flavors, just do not be lazy
Yes, and I dried 6 kg
Natalo4-ka
Quote: lappl1
Natalo4-ka, dear, thank you for taking on such a job! Now everyone can easily make this miracle adapt.
Lyudochka, I am glad to contribute my bit to the popularization of our desperate business



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Mila1
Natalo4-ka, Natasha, what a great job you did !!!!! You and Lyudochka. as well as to ALL the girls who shared their thoughts on the ruble, a deep bow and my HUGE THANKS
Barquentine
I dried 3 liters of tea. But in the garden, apparently, the electric stove does not keep pace. Dried out but remained green. Can I dry it in the oven. Or leave it that way. Now in a pillowcase in the wind. After drying, 3 days have passed.
Irina M
Thank you girls for your congratulations! My new hobby - tea - made this summer wonderful! I used to be like a hound,: girl_love: but this year my leg hurts minimally, so I'm on a bike and have a rest in the fields !!!
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I'm talking about my "research" on the time of fermentation
compared four fermentation times:
4 hours - "meat grinder" - a decent fruity smell when drying and taste too;
9 o'clock - "meat grinder" - a decent fruity smell when drying, the taste is good;
25 hours - "meat grinder" - sour smell when drying, taste is normal;
25 hours - leafy on the ruble - fruity smell when drying, taste is softer than "meat grinder", but the impression was created that again she did not finish the leaf. I came to this conclusion because the tea turned out to be not black, but something in between green and black (but still closer to black).
at the first experience with the sheet, I sinned on the lack of weight of the load. And this time the load was more than that and fermented for a long time.
As a result of my experiment, with the fermentation time of the "meat grinder" I decided for myself, it makes no sense to keep

that's right, Lyudochka, she said, but I can't feel it myself, like Thomas ...


But with a sheet, help me, please, understand my jambs



Added on Tuesday 05 Jul 2016 04:15 PM

Quote: Irina M
This year my leg hurts minimally - so I'm on a bike and in the fields, soul to rest !!!
in what place does the leg hurt, once on the bicycle? well done
but be careful, I went on a velek, and I myself looked around, looked out for wild pears and apple trees, so it crashed twice, thank God, it was ok !!!
Irina M
Foot hurts, ride almost does not interfere. I also twist my head, but falling is almost fatal for me, so I am careful.
Elena Kadiewa
lydia, the girls wrote that the leaf is not as strong as a meat grinder, and the "blackness" of the tea depends on the frying.
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Quote: Irina M
I turn my head too
learn from other people's mistakes
Quote: elena kadiewa
the girls wrote that the leaf is not as strong as the meat grinder, and the "blackness" of the tea depends on the frying.
Lena, the fact of the matter is that ALL dried the same and with frying.
I forgot to mention it, but I don't know how to insert it now
and what is softer than leaf, I also thought so.
In principle, I also liked this option, but I want a "black" color
Tricia
Quote: elena kadiewa
the "blackness" of the tea depends on the frying
Helen, girls! Unfortunately, yesterday I refuted this maxim.
As a gift from God, I dug in the deep of the freezer a vacuum bag with a withered ivy of last year. Processed, kneaded, fermented according to the "Macho" recipe. I made a frying "hellish" at 150 gr! Seemingly dry leaves - real "Hair of the Italian macho"! And not black is brewed. And I hoped so, because I love black.
I’ll rake up my affairs, put out the Macho recipe, I recorded everything for him.
Elena Kadiewa
Found () a small jar of rustic leaf tea 14 years old, brewed. Delicious, sooooo delicious!
Nastyusha, it means a long fermentation, right?
Or maybe he "lay in the freezer"?
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Quote: Tricia
I'll rake up my business, put out the Macho recipe, I recorded everything for him
we will wait, Nastya, and
I read about him late, when the leaves became rough
Together we will find my joint, I'm sure


Added Tuesday 05 Jul 2016 05:10 PM

Quote: elena kadiewa
Found () a small jar of rustic leaf tea 14 years old, brewed. Delicious, sooooo delicious!
like that, "zahala", Lenus
What color is it?
just in Luda's photo at the very beginning does not match mine (or rather mine does not match)
but I can't take a picture and show it, that's why only "on my fingers"
Tricia
Quote: elena kadiewa
Nastyusha, it means a long fermentation, right?
Yes, I fermented for a day, maybe a little more for a couple of hours. Yes, with dancing, because the apartment had 32 grams, and you needed no more than 28 for fermentation. She kept buckets of fermenting tea in basins of cold water.

Quote: elena kadiewa
Or maybe he "lay in the freezer"?
No, I came out of the freezer with an excellent aroma, the right turgor, because it was properly dried before the freezer, and then it was vacuum packed in a bag and did not lose the smell.
Quote: space
I read about him late, when the leaves became rough
Lida! I collected this willow tea almost at the end of summer, on the plot where I took the tops in late spring! In place of the broken off shoots, new young panicles have grown, sprout. So all is not lost!
Mandraik Ludmila
Nastya, I'm waiting for Macho, I'm hanging out here in the bushes, listening to smart people. Now Ivanushka is fermenting ..
space
Quote: Tricia
In place of the broken off shoots, new young panicles have grown, sprout. So all is not lost!
then I will definitely try
Nadyushich
Natalo4-kaNatasha, well done, made a good drawing! Small addition or clarification. On the lower ruble, the teeth at the top have a platform of 1 cm, if an angle of 45 degrees is made down from this size, then there will be no platform at the bottom. And in order for the view to be as in the drawing, then the upper platform must be made not 1 cm, but 0.5 cm.
Natalo4-ka
Nadyushich,
lappl1
Quote: Barkentina
I dried 3 liters of tea. But in the garden, apparently, the electric stove does not keep pace. Dried out but remained green. Can I dry it in the oven. Or leave it like that. Now in a pillowcase in the wind. After drying, 3 days have passed.
Barquentine, no, nothing can be dried anymore - your tea is already dry. If you put it back in the oven now, it will simply burn out.
Quote: space
Talking about my "research" on the time of fermentation, I compared four times of fermentation:
space, Lida, great report! Corresponds to what I did.
Quote: space
the impression was made that she had not completed the leaflet again. I came to this conclusion because the tea turned out to be not black, but something in between green and black (but still closer to black).
Lida, what kind of tea are you writing about? About dry or brewed color? I don't know why, but I always have black and leafy, and granular - either dry or brewed. In the photo in the recipe, there are green granules. but this is the very first tea that I dried at a low temperature in a dryer. But luckily for me, it burned out and I dried everything in the oven.My husband repaired the dryer, but I never returned to low temperatures.
In general, everything depends on the oven. I have a small oven, the heating elements are close by ... By the way, I remember now. When I report on topics about baking, sometimes the authors and not only are surprised at the tanning of my breads. Sometimes they suspect that I did not bake according to their recipe. I thought for a long time why is this? and then I realized on biscuits that it was my oven "to blame" - it fries quickly and well.
But in standard ovens, the volume is larger and there is no frying that small ones have. So it is with tea ...
Quote: Tricia
Yesterday I refuted this maxim, unfortunately
Nastenka, maybe this is a feature of young brooms? Well, there are still no tannins there as much as more mature leaves.
space
Quote: lappl1
What tea are you writing about?
about the color of dry
brewed, lighter than "meat grinder"
Quote: lappl1
In general, everything depends on the oven. I have a small oven, the heating elements are located close ..
I have two of these, one is very small, it really dries faster in it, the other is larger, it seems to be 36 liters, in this one it takes longer, sometimes I even set the temperature higher
Will I continue to create, maybe I'll find out the reason for my failure?
I don't particularly bother about this, if only the taste suits
Tricia
Quote: lappl1
Nastenka, maybe this is a feature of young brooms? Well, there are still no tannins there as much as more mature leaves.
Luda, so the leaves used not only pale green, but also dark green, just not very coarse yet ... and the brown juice was released during kneading, that is, there were sufficient tannins ...
And after the experiment with Macho last year, I also chopped it after manual kneading, sent it to fermentation, then drying. It was brewed darker than leaf! I had a hope to straighten it with a frying, but no. But an equally stable positive result for Macho for the second year!
mironirina
Girls, hello! I could not stand it - I brewed it!)
Having read the theory, I decided to be patient and not brew fresh tea, so as not to be disappointed. I thought I would wait until dry fermentation took place. The next day, thrusting my nose into the jar, I heard such an amazing smell that I could not stand it and brewed a pinch (for a glass). The color of the infusion is between light and medium. The tea leaves blooming in it are of a dark marsh color. The smell is light, pleasant. Rather sweetish. Taste? I don’t know how to describe it, but also nice and tasty. I really like it, and I quietly drink it from everyone for the second day. Compared to regular tea, it is not astringent, so I can drink it without milk. It is customary in our republic to drink tea with milk.
I think that my gulls will infuse well (if I don't drag the whole one) and it will be even better.
Conclusions: most likely it was necessary to crumple and twist the tea harder, next time I will not bother with this, I will pass it through a meat grinder. And it was necessary to fry more decisively, otherwise I was so afraid that it would burn out in my stupid oven that I constantly lowered the temperature. I suspect that I got exactly green tea.
Girls, thank you all very much, and I bow to Lyuda for the development of this topic. Now I have another hobby!
Emerald
And yesterday I brewed granules from the tops ...
Already the taste is amazing - tart, aromatic
And only a month passed.
Lyudochka, girls, thank you all for the science.
Luna Nord
mironirina, With tea so, Irinka.
lappl1
Quote: space
about dry-brewed color, lighter than "meat grinder"
space, Lida, so it turns out for many. The reason is that much more juice is released during processing in a meat grinder than when processing manually. Less juice means fewer substances involved in fermentation. This means that fermentation will be weaker. If you can manually squeeze out enough juice, that is, crush the leaves completely, then leaf tea will be as rich as granulated. I managed to do this with the help of a ruff and thorough kneading with my hands.
Quote: Tricia
And after the experiment with Macho last year, I also chopped it after manual kneading, sent it to fermentation, then drying. It was brewed darker than leaf! I had a hope to straighten it out with frying, but no
I just wrote about it ... So the tea was not mixed so much.
Quote: mironirina
Conclusions: most likely it was necessary to crumple and twist the tea harder, next time I will not bother with this, I will pass it through a meat grinder. And it was necessary to fry more decisively, otherwise I was so afraid that it would burn out in my stupid oven that I constantly lowered the temperature. I suspect that I got exactly green tea.
AND mironirina-Ira noticed it ... Only the tea turned out not green, but weakly fermented. In the production of green tea, there is no fermentation process at all. There is a different technology. Our tea makers made green tea. There are links to their recipes at the end of the recipe in the Notes.
Ira, I am very glad that the result was wonderful! Keep it up!
Quote: Emerald
And yesterday I brewed granules from the tops .... The taste is already amazing - tart, aromatic And only a month has passed. Lyudochka, girls, thank you all for the science.
Emerald, Olenka, how nice it is to read such messages. So you did everything right! Well done!
mironirina
I'm doing the second batch. Yesterday my husband and I went out of town, got some Ivan tea. Picked the stems completely: leaves, capsules and the very top of the flower. All, mixed, wilted very well. I kneaded half on my hands, half on a meat grinder. When fermenting in a saucepan with a whole leaf, the odor was weaker than in a bowl of ground. After 6 hours, I took out some of the fine tea, put it to dry, and crushed the rest again with oppression. Its fermentation time was 8 hours. After the leaf was dried for 10 hours of fermentation. Since he was preparing with boxes, some of them fluffed up. Not critical, of course, but can you choose them?
More or less something is becoming clear, but there are questions. The first one, hung out to dry on the balcony, in this regard, there is concern, will the tea absorb street smells and dust? The second question, I pressed the leaf tea with oppression very well, as a result, when I took it out for drying, I got a kind of "cake" that holds its shape well. Can I dry it like this? And the third question, the most pressing and actual, is how important is the drying time after all? My tea dries very quickly, 30 minutes for the eyes is enough. I am afraid of both overdrying and underdrying.
lappl1
Quote: mironirina
The first one, hung out to dry on the balcony, in this regard, there is concern, will the tea absorb street smells and dust?
mironirina, it is better then to dry in the apartment.
Quote: mironirina
As a result, when I took it out for drying, I got a kind of "cake" that holds its shape well. Can I dry it like this?
No you can not. A special drying technology has been developed for tiled tea. In our conditions, it is unrealistic to do this with such a tile size - "cake" .. Some tea-makers tried to make such tea, but outside it was dry, but not inside. And during storage it got moldy.
Quote: mironirina
How important is the drying time after all? My tea dries very quickly, 30 minutes for the eyes is enough. I am afraid of both overdrying and underdrying.
I have already answered this question to you. Apparently, you are not following the topic.
Depends on many factors - type and type of drying equipment, layer thickness, type of tea (leaf / granular), degree of withering and processing of leaves in preparation for fermentation, etc. Your tea is dry - finish drying ...
mironirina
lappl1, I follow the topic and re-read several times a day. But while reading the topic (I got to 51 pages), I never met that they would dry a little, and in 15 minutes my tea was dry. I hold on until half an hour to get time. It is dry, rustling, tea leaves breaking. Don't think that I am inattentive. You answer me, and this is work. And I respect other people's work. In addition, these are my first experiments, I hope I will soon understand and stop bothering you.)
In general, this is creativity, the most real, unpredictable in the end.
lappl1
mironirina, Irina, I just answered your question on page 178, and not on page 51 (what determines the drying time). Here's the answer:
Quote: lappl1

mironirina, Irina, the type and size of the drying equipment, the type of tea (foliage / granulated), the degree of leaf wilting, the degree of preparation of the leaves for fermentation (a little or a lot of juice was squeezed out) and the layer thickness during drying ...
Therefore, I wrote to you that you need to follow the topic, that is, for all the fresh answers, especially if you asked a question.
You didn't ask if you could dry in less time. Of course, you can dry it in less time. It is important for us to dry the tea, but how long it will take is not important. If you, Ira, wrote how you dry tea (what, layer thickness, oven size, type of tea, etc.), I would give you a more detailed answer.
Quote: mironirina
In addition, these are my first experiences, I hope I will soon understand and stop bothering you.)
Believe me, you don't bother. Ask if you have questions, but even then it is advisable to read the answers later. And apparently, you have not read that answer for you.
Quote: mironirina
In general, this is creativity, the most real, unpredictable in the end.
Irochka, I agree that making tea is a creative process. But not in those moments of technology compliance. If you follow the technology, the result is always predictable. For example, I would be disappointed by the unpredictability, while observing all the nuances of the technology ... So you decided to make Fuzzy tea leaf, and in the end you got an unpredictable result ... Not a fact that it was positive.
Therefore, Irochka, please, at first try to follow the technology to the smallest detail, and you can create later, when all the stages of making tea have been mastered 100%. And then, creativity is not possible without knowing the basics ... Until the basics are mastered, there will be no creativity, but a game of roulette ...
Ira, do not be offended, please, at the somewhat edifying tone of my message. But I really want everyone who has come to tea topics to have tea ... And, secondly, I am forgiven ... I am a teacher ... Only the teacher's persistence helps his Pupils to master the topic (process) from and before...


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Quote: mironirina
But while reading the topic (I reached 51 pages), I never met that they would dry a little, and in 15 minutes my tea was dry.
mironirina, Irina, apparently, they didn't read it carefully. On page 29 of garden tea, I gave an answer to a similar question about the drying time. And in the Ivan-tea topic (and not only), I made links to this answer in the Notes to the recipe. Brought part of the answer here:
Quote: lappl1
It is difficult to name the exact drying time... It depends on many conditions:
- the weather in which you collected the leaves. The drier and hotter, the drier the leaves were torn off, which means that they will dry out faster afterwards.
- the type of plant. There are drier plants - raspberries and currants, for example. they dry faster. And plants that are more humid in nature (fireweed, pear, apple) dry longer.
- the degree of withering or freezing of leaves before fermentation. The less the leaves have withered, the longer they will dry. The less they froze, the worse the juice will be released from them when rolling the rolls, the faster they will dry.
- from the method of preparing leaves for fermentation. If the leaves were twisted in a meat grinder, then they are dried in the oven longer than leaves rolled up and then cut into washers. And the whole leaf dries the fastest.
- on the features of the oven - with or without convection, a stationary stove or mini-oven, gas or electric.
- on the number of leaves and layer thickness during drying. The more leaves and the thicker the layer, the longer the tea will dry. And vice versa
So that I can't tell you the exact drying time. Everyone should choose a drying mode based on the listed conditions for collecting leaves and preparing them for fermentation... After a couple of games and experience, it will be easy to do.
Ira, you do not need to read all the pages in a row yet. Please review the list of all links to the most important answers in all tea topics. These links (active, just click on them and they will open) are given on the recipe page at the end in the Notes. Here, I made a screen in the part related to drying. See how many links to answers about drying. And when the time comes (in winter), you can read all the pages. Believe me, these links make the life of a novice tea-maker a lot easier (and not only).

Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class
mironirina
Lyudochka! Thank you so much for your patience! I read the trail. way, first the answers, then 1 page, and then, in the evenings, free reading of the topic. Here, apparently, everything is mixed up in the brain!)
About drying. Layer 1 cm. Oven of the old "Combustion" stove without convection and without a thermometer. The temperature is roughly determined by the scale of the switch. If I sort out the temperature, then a little, 10-20 degrees. Very often I stir with my hands and a silicone dough spatula.
In general, this is what I'm afraid of, suddenly it dries quickly due to some violations in the previous stage, but I don't see them. Yesterday I took everything into account. Didn't retreat anywhere, but the ambient temperature! +28! ((Now I think that I might have re-fermented, that's why the tea dried quickly? Forgive me for my meticulousness, Lyudochka! But this business so captivated me!
lappl1
Quote: mironirina
About drying. Layer 1 cm. Oven of the old "Combustion" stove without convection and without a thermometer. The temperature is roughly determined by the scale of the switch. If I sort out the temperature, then a little, 10-20 degrees. Very often I stir with my hands and a silicone dough spatula.
mironirina, Irina, the name of the stove does not tell me anything. I can't see it on the internet, because I have it very weak and the pictures, if they open, it takes a very long time.
The size of the oven and the number of trays are important.
But again, it is important to dry the tea, and how long it will dry is not important.
Quote: mironirina
I read the trail. way, first answers, then 1 page, and then, in the evenings, free reading of the topic.
Irina, it's good. And for the future I can advise that if you have any questions, it would be good to go to the recipes and the Notes to them. There are so many links! Believe me - the third season has gone, as I laid out the recipes, and during this time ALMOST ALL QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED. AND THE ANSWERS TO THEM ARE GIVEN. But, most importantly, I tried to MAKE REFERENCES AT ALL IMPORTANT POINTS. This year, I came across only one question that had not yet been asked and to which there was no answer in the recipe and links ... I was happy about this question as a child.
IrinaS111
lappl1, thank you, Lyudochka, for a wonderful tea recipe. I didn't even think that I had! everything will work out. I dried it at night and enjoyed the wonderful smell of fireweed! And really, she was as happy as a child!
Emerald
Here's what I found. If you're interested, read it. If this information is inappropriate here, then I will delete the post

Ivan tea is a protector against 100 diseases!
Academician, professor, doctor of technical sciences, laureate of the State Prize Nikitin Albert Nikolaevich:
“After our research on Ivan-chai, it turned out that tea contains from 69 to 71 useful trace elements, depending on the area. This is 2/3 of the periodic table. And most importantly, it is an unsurpassed antiseptic. Simply amazing. There are no analogues in the plant world. In addition to antiseptic properties, it has the property of cleansing the body from "slagging". This is when the cell cannot cope with its functions. When drinking tea, the whole body is cleansed and within 2 weeks with regular use, every day 3-4 times a day, then you will feel how the body begins to bloom, the fullness passes, there is peace. After taking 2 cups of tea, hangover syndrome is removed. Ivan tea is brewed 3-4 times and each time it gives its properties. Tea contains about 17-18 amino acids. That is why drinking Ivan tea is very important today.We have tried to provide technology for the last 10 years, offered cooperation to a number of governors in those old regions where it is possible to introduce the technology of making Ivan tea. And what do you think? It is useless ... This is not interesting to anyone. All trash is chased to Russia under the guise of Chinese, Indian tea. "
Useful medicinal properties of Ivan tea

- Has a preventive effect on malignant and benign neoplasms;
- Effective for diseases of the genitourinary system and prevention of prostatitis; - Strengthens potency;
- Scars stomach ulcers and duodenal ulcers;
- Increases immunity and resistance to various infections;
- Has a beneficial effect on the immune and endocrine systems; - It is an excellent remedy for the prevention of caries;
- Improves blood composition (alkalizes blood);
- Strengthens blood vessels;
- It is indicated for various forms of neuroses and neurosis-like conditions in post-traumatic stress disorders;
- Reduces intoxication of the body, including from radiation pollution;
- Has an antipyretic effect;
- Binds and removes heavy metals;
- Possesses anti-inflammatory effect (the highest protein number of all known plants 1: 400);
- Relieves food and alcohol poisoning;
- Restores strength in case of tiredness, fatigue, exhaustion;
- Effective for stones in the liver, kidneys and spleen diseases;
- Strengthens the hair roots;
- Eliminates headache;
- Normalizes blood pressure
- And it is simply delicious and medicinal tea.
Practical recipes for the use of narrow-leaved fireweed
PANCREATITIS (subacute). 3 tablespoons of dry crushed leaves pour 300 ml of boiling water, leave for 10 minutes and take 50 ml of warm infusion before and after meals.
Ulcer of the stomach and duodenum. Pour 2 tablespoons of leaves with 1.5 liters of water, bring to a boil, but do not boil, leave for 30-40 minutes, drain. Drink a third of a glass 3-4 times a day before meals.
PSORIASIS, NEURODERMITIS, ECZEMA, ALLERGIC SKIN DISEASES. Pour 2 tablespoons of Ivan tea with two glasses of boiling water, leave for 6 hours, drain. Drink the infusion during the day.
BPH. Pour 3 teaspoons of herbs with 2 cups of boiling water, leave for 5 minutes, drain. Drink a glass in the morning on an empty stomach and in the evening half an hour before bedtime. PROSTATITIS (chronic). Pour 1 tablespoon of fireweed herb with 1 glass of boiling water, wrap, leave for 2 hours, drain. Drink 1/3 cup warm 3 times a day 20 minutes before meals. The infusion can be taken after prostate surgery. WHITE. 2 tablespoons of chopped fireweed roots pour 1 cup boiling water, boil for 10 minutes, infuse for 2 hours, drain. Drink 1/3 cup 3 times a day before meals. AMAZING MENSTRUATIONS. Pour 1 tablespoon of leaves with 1 glass of boiling water, leave for 1 hour, drain. Drink a glass of infusion a day in several doses, or 1 tablespoon 3-4 times a day before meals. CLIMAX. Fill half a liter jar with chopped dry fireweed flowers, pour 0.5 liters of vodka, close the lid and leave for 1 month. Shake occasionally. Take 30 drops per tablespoon of water, 3 times a day. The tincture relieves headaches, reduces heart palpitations, and removes swelling.
ONCOLOGICAL DISEASES OF KIDNEYS AND BLADDER. A collection of 3 parts of fireweed flowers, yarrow herb, 2 parts of marsh creeper grass, 1 part of the leaves of the Golden Mustache, 4 parts of rose hips is made. Pour a tablespoon of the mixture with a glass of boiling water, boil for 3 minutes, leave for 1 hour and drain. Add boiled water to the original volume. Drink a third of a glass 3 times a day before meals. ONCOLOGICAL DISEASES OF THE GENITAL ORGANS. Take 2 parts of fireweed flowers, nettle leaves, large plantain leaves, 1 part of the herb of Knotweed (knotweed), white acacia flowers. Pour a teaspoon of the mixture with a glass of boiling water, leave for half an hour, strain and drink a glass a day.American researcher Santosh Katiar believes: 4-5 cups of Ivan tea a day is a good way to prevent cancer.
INFERTILITY (due to obstruction of the fallopian tubes). Mix equal parts of leaves of fireweed, plantain, lemon balm, peppermint, wild strawberry, nettle, parsley herb, St. John's wort, common cuff. Pour a tablespoon of the mixture with 0.5 liters of boiling water, boil for 5 minutes, cool and strain. Drink 1-2 glasses a day instead of water.
FOR WOMEN Strong Koporsk tea with lemon juice and honey will help to enlarge the bust, as it stimulates the activity of the mammary gland. In women who drink several cups of Koporye tea a day, during menopause, the frequency of "hot flashes" decreases, they pass more gently, and most importantly, osteoporosis recedes, bones become stronger than in women who prefer other drinks to Koporye tea.
Useful rinsing teeth with Koporsk tea during pregnancy, such rinsing well protects the enamel of the teeth from destruction.

3 ways to prepare Ivan tea
Ivan tea (Koporsky tea) is one of the most healing and legendary. In order not to be disappointed in this drink, be sure to try to make it yourself, observing all the intricacies of the manual technology of collection, fermentation, drying and storage. Only after that you will be able to compare the true taste and aroma of Koporye tea with the options offered by firms and companies. In the latter, the high price of the goods very often does not correspond to its quality. Ivan-tea (fireweed, Koporsky tea) is a very tasty, beautiful and healthiest tea in the whole world! In terms of its unique chemical composition, Ivan-tea is not inferior to seaweed, and in terms of nutritional value and healing power, it is much superior to it. In Russia, it was believed that Koporye tea could prevent or cure 90% of all known diseases of that time. The remaining 10% were treated with other plants, honey, tar, mushrooms and roots. The constant intake of Koporye tea is the prevention of benign and malignant formations, prostatitis; effective remedy for problems with the genitourinary system. In addition, this tea is used to improve blood composition and reduce body intoxication; removal of food and alcohol poisoning; restoration of strength when exhausted. Also, Koporye tea heals duodenal and stomach ulcers, increases immunity to various respiratory viral infections, strengthens hair roots, normalizes blood pressure, eliminates headaches and prevents early aging of a person. Many of the healing effects of Ivan tea are similar to baking soda. And this is no coincidence. After all, fireweed mainly grows on the ashes of peat and forest fires, which are the same alkali as baking soda. Koporye tea, drunk in the evening before going to bed, can slow down the pulse, lower blood pressure and lower the body temperature of a person. Such nocturnal "suspended animation" gives a chance to increase or extend the phase of active life of the body, at least by a quarter of its average duration, which is not so little, you must agree ... Doctor Pyotr Alexandrovich Badmaev (Zhamsaran), who devoted most his scientific works reveal the secret of the healing power of Ivan-tea. The last time Badmaev became a father was at the age of 100. In total, he lived 110 years, could have lived more ... But the Petrograd prison did not allow him to do this. Koporye tea was exported from Russia to Europe - in huge quantities. But simply dried grass Ivan-tea is not Koporsky tea. Koporye tea must be fermented before drying, that is, naturally fermented for 24 - 48 hours. The time of fermentation and the temperature at which it is carried out exactly affect the color, taste and aroma of the final product. Tea can be made green, yellow, or even black. By its taste, black Koporye tea is beyond competition! There are several fermentation methods. I know of them - six. And all six work great! Let's consider in detail the three most uncomplicated ones, taking into account all the nuances ...

1. The easy way.Collect the leaves and top flowers (without seeds) of the Ivan tea herb. They need to be collected after 10 in the morning, when the morning dew has dried. In extreme heat, the collection of raw materials is carried out in the late afternoon. Otherwise, the leaves will "burn" in the basket. You need to collect very carefully so as not to put a forest bug in the basket. Even one insect can destroy all our labor. No wonder the Russian proverb says - the bug is small, but it stinks! Wither the collected leaves and flowers slightly in the shade, knead them thoroughly with your hands, rolling them in your palms, fill a 3-liter jar with them, as tightly as possible. Cover with a damp cloth and place in a dark place at room temperature for 36 hours. Then take out the fermented mass, loosen and dry at a temperature of about 95 - 110 degrees Celsius, in an electric or gas oven. Optionally, you can form a flat slab tea. For example, round, like the Chinese "Puer". In some places in Russia, tiled tea was made in the form of a large layer, the size of a baking sheet for a Russian oven. This layer was somewhat reminiscent of modern chipboard, only black and brown ... At the bazaar, such tea was sold by weight, chopping off the desired piece from the layer - with an ax! In modern home conditions of a city apartment, making and drying a huge tile is problematic. But a small one, with a dry weight of 250 - 300 grams, is quite realistic to make. It can be formed in any plastic container from raw willow herb of low fermentation under yoke. During the molding period, fermentation is complete. You will have to dry the tiles in an electric oven, with top and bottom heating (better - infrared emitters), with the convection mode turned on. Drying time will depend on the initial moisture content of the tile (which depends on the time of day, the date of the last precipitation and the month of collection of raw materials) and its third dimension - thickness. To save electricity, it is better to dry several tiles at the same time. When drying, it is necessary to regularly stir the drying tea or turn over a flat tile. In this case, he will acquire the color we need. It can vary from light brown to almost black. Drying time of loose tea is determined "by eye", and round tea - by weighing dry tiles. The ratio of raw mass to finished dry tea should be 5: 1. It is better to store Koporye tea under a lid, in a glass or plastic container, in the absence of sunlight. Shelf life is at least three years.

2. A forgotten way. On a damp linen canvas or tablecloth, spread the leaves of Ivan-tea in a layer up to 3 cm. roll up like a big roll, as tight as possible. For a small volume of grass, it is better to take the canvas in a smaller size, while they also do not forget to slightly moisten it with clean water from a household spray bottle. Otherwise, he will take some of the valuable juice from the leaves. We tighten the twist with a rope or a rubber cord and carefully wrinkle it with our hands, bending and unbending it in different directions for 20-30 minutes, thereby destroying the cellular structure (vacuoles) of Ivan-tea leaves. It is more convenient to do this together. Then we leave the twist alone and give the initial fermentation for 2 - 3 hours. Periodically check the temperature of the twist by touch. With a noticeable heating (over 37 degrees), we finish the initial fermentation. It turns out here is such a wrinkled herb with a pleasant smell of fermented pear compote. Young apical (May) shoots are so tender that the destruction of their cellular structure occurs during laying in a container. At the same time, a characteristic crunch is heard when pressing the green mass with a hand. We fold it, tamping it very tightly into plastic buckets or glass jars under the lid for full fermentation. In order not to confuse them later, we will write the date of the bookmark on the cover. After 36 - 40 hours, the fermentation is finished. Its duration can be increased by placing the raw materials in a cool place. This will give the tea a more subtle flavor. For late tea (harvesting July - August) we do an additional fermentation step.To do this, we will thoroughly rinse the taken out raw materials from the bucket with our hands until the juice appears. An important point! If there is no time or energy to carry out this operation, then the mass can be passed through the auger of the meat grinder with the knives removed or a special electric crush. But in this case, the taste and medicinal properties of the tea will be weaker ... Then we will leave it alone in the form of a small pile, covering it with a damp cloth, for 6 - 8 hours at room temperature. As soon as the tea acquires the properties of soft rubber to the touch, it must be quickly dried. To do this, put the future tea on a baking sheet and dry it in the oven at a temperature of ~ 100 degrees Celsius. At the end of drying, the temperature can be slightly increased. This will allow the brew to be “calcined” to resemble coffee beans. It will improve not only the color and aroma of the tea, but also its taste. Do not forget to stir more often! We keep the oven door slightly open. To prevent the tea from roasting, it is advisable to put two red clay bricks or ceramic tiles on the bottom of the oven. They will stabilize the temperature and emit infrared rays of the desired spectrum, like a Russian stove. The healing qualities of Koporye tea depend on this. Koporsky tea is ready in 1.5 - 2 hours! With little experience, you can dry 300 - 400 grams of dry product per day. Good results are obtained by drying tea on a dryer made of heating foil for saunas. It is better to take the film with an operating temperature of 80 degrees Celsius. On top of the film, you need to put coarse calico. The whole structure can be done in a rectangular wooden box that fits well on the windowsill. Here is a variant of a multi-layer film dryer with forced convection for any kind of Koporye tea. Power consumption only 500 W, maximum green mass loading 8 kg. Drying time 12 - 16 hours. But the ideal of drying is a Russian oven. All parameters of tea drying are maintained in it "automatically". Such a giant oven, 11 meters high, can dry several pounds of fermented Ivan tea. It is better to store Koporye tea under a lid, in a dark place. Tiled tea should be wrapped appropriately in heavy paper. The shelf life of loose tea is at least three years, and tiled tea is tens of years! The taste and aroma of tea only improve over time. Additional dry fermentation takes place.

3. Fermentation under pressure in its own juice. We divide the collected raw materials (tops of shoots and leaves of fireweed) approximately equally into two heaps. From the first, using a powerful press juicer, we get juice. The percentage of juice output is small, even if you use the most modern Angel juicer. We put the remaining half of the leaves in a pan made of metal ceramics and fill it with fireweed juice. On top we put a wooden circle (or a slightly smaller lid) with a weight-oppression. Its weight should be at least 20 kg (or better, a two-pound weight in a plastic bag so that there is no direct contact with the "brine"). After three days, fermentation will end and the tea must be dried at a temperature of + 90 degrees Celsius. You will get such plates of Koporye tea Zavarka. One person is enough for a day 5 grams of dry brew of Koporye tea, of course, if they do not "marathon". That's about 4-5 cups of a rich drink. Re-brewing is allowed. But its taste will no longer be so pronounced. Taking into account the possible treats by the guests, 2 kg of dry tea is enough for one person for a year. Most of all, the taste and aroma of Koporye tea depends on the quality of the water and the brew itself. It would be disingenuous to say that tap water can be made "tasty" with filters. Whoever at least once drank tea with lake water or melt water from the glaciers of the mountains will understand me. Dry tea leaves should be uniform in color and size. Its smell, similar to pear-apple compote from dried fruits, hot drying, is also important. A brew that gives off the rotten smell of spoiled hay will not make good tea. Dishes (teapot) can be different: glass, porcelain, rhinestone or brass samovar.In the last tea leaves, they are dipped in a container or linen bag (at the rate of 2 tablespoons per 1 liter of volume). Of modern materials - cermets. Pour boiling water over. It is important to maintain the brewing time. It is at least 40 minutes. For an amateur, it can be increased to 4-6 hours. With a longer process, the drink begins to oxidize and loses its color and taste. Drink hot or cold. When heating cooled tea, do not allow even the slightest boil of the drink. The subtle aroma will disappear immediately. Usually Koporye tea is drunk without dilution with boiling water. The benefits of Koporye tea. The presence of iron, copper, manganese in the plant makes it possible to consider it as a means capable of improving the process of hematopoiesis, increase the protective functions of the body, a pronounced sedative effect. Ivan tea gently normalizes intestinal activity. Due to the rich content of tannins, mucus and vitamin C, Ivan tea has good anti-inflammatory and enveloping properties in case of stomach ulcer, gastritis, colitis. And even with enterocolitis, dysentery diarrhea, with flatulence and anemia. Drinking it regularly relieves migraines, helps with insomnia, anemia, delirium tremens, infections, colds and asthma. In general, it raises the immune system, being a powerful natural cleaner. In the old days, it was not for nothing that they said about him that he not only heals the body, but also enlightens the mind and raises the spirit. Anyone who drinks Koporye tea will never have problems with the prostate gland and sexual impotence. The name of the plant speaks for itself. And one more of the remarkable advantages of Ivan tea is that it alkalizes the blood and thereby restores strength in case of various kinds of exhaustion and after serious illnesses.

Elena Kadiewa
Informative article!
Thank you!
Inisiaru
Sorry to be missing.
Fortunately, after drying, the fireweed lost only the sour smell. The aroma of the tea itself was not affected. It turned out to be medium fermented. That is, not yet black, but not green anymore. Although I like more fermented, but this one is very tasty)
Thank you lappl1 for this topic!
francevna
Emerald, Olya, I learned a lot of new things for myself, thank you. It's hard to read such small print on your phone.
Today I bought a new Ivan-tea, Vyatka with the addition of a cherry leaf.
Ivan tea is coarsely granulated fermented, and the cherry leaf is finely chopped.
I liked the aroma, taste and color very much.
Similar to the tea that I Guzel62 treated.
Guzelchik, I rarely drink your tea to prolong the pleasure.
So you can find worthy Ivan tea on sale if it does not grow with us, but you want to drink.
lappl1
Quote: IrinaS111
Thank you, Lyudochka, for a wonderful tea recipe. I didn't even think that I had! everything will work out. I dried it at night and enjoyed the wonderful smell of fireweed! And really, she was as happy as a child!
IrinaS111, Ira, to your health! I am glad with you! So you did everything right! Well done ! Make tea more and more!
Quote: Emerald
If you're interested, read it. If this information is inappropriate here, then I will delete the post
Emerald, Olya, how is it not appropriate? Very appropriate. It is advisable to read this article to everyone. Thank you for sharing!
Quote: Inisiaru
Fortunately, after drying, the fireweed lost only the sour smell. The aroma of the tea itself was not affected. It turned out to be medium fermented. That is, not yet black, but not green anymore. Although I like more fermented, but this one is very tasty) Thanks to lappl1 for this thread!
Inisiaru, Christina, well, that's good! And by autumn, especially by winter, the tea will become even better! And to make it black, fry it when drying (at the beginning).
francevna, Allochka, congratulations on a successful purchase! It's good that I found a good company.
lappl1
Quote: francevna
It's hard to read such small print on your phone.
francevna, Allochka, increased the font, and removed some of the information under the spoiler to make it more convenient. Read it!
francevna
lappl1, Lyudochka, thank you very much! I read it in small print, my eyes are already watering.

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