Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class

By the way, Crimeans about fireweed in our latitudes. Read here about the Crimean varieties (and keep the link to the resource for yourself)
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[lappl1]

lappl1So I thought the kind of Ivan-tea, planted at home, and bummer. About derbeinik 🔗

This is not a derbenNik. It is recognized by droplets of moisture on the leaves. The structure of the flower is different, there should be more petals, 6, in my opinion. And the stkbel is tetrahedral, and the flowers are collected in the axils of the leaves. Here Zachary gives a link, look at the southern types of fireweed.

Luda, looked in profile, Natasha Koval from Kiev. Maybe she found where they grow Ivan tea. But they have more forests, and we have a steppe zone. There is only landing nearby, and then in the area of ​​highways and roads.
Well, it's a pity that we won't be able to fully enjoy the taste of real Ivan tea. You will have to order ready-made mixtures in the online store.
And at the expense of the willow derbein or plakun, the grass also went to Google. I looked, but very similar to the one I saw on the street. Maybe you should breed it on your site.
But I looked at its medicinal properties, used for uterine bleeding and increases blood clotting. And this means hypertensive patients should refrain, and if I still somehow, I would give up on myself. But my husband, after 2 strokes, I’m just afraid to give this tea, even after fermentation.
Ehhhh, not destiny

[Nelya]

Nelya, which means that you, without cypress, remain garden scent! So much tea can be made delicious. And not to suffer that your Ivan tea does not grow.

[Zachary]

By the way, Crimeans about fireweed in our latitudes. Here read about the Crimean varieties (and keep the link to the resource for yourself): 🔗

Zachary, Something does not open for me this link. Did you give us all the letters?

[Natusichka]

Natusichka, I have a willow derbein growing like an ornamental bush, ran away and looked ... Just like yours !!! and the stem and leaves and flower are the same. It's a pity not to attach the photo from the phone

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Luda everything is correct there
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strange. In all my browsers, I see sites marked with a Crimean plant, and when I click on the page, it says that the page is not available. Moreover, there are many such sites and all have the same story. maybe I have something with the computer? While other sites are opening.

it means that you, without cypriot, remain garden scent!

Lyudochka, which I started doing this season, is to master my first teas. But I can’t get my report to the corresponding Temko. I sat without an Internet, then without a laptop, in short, I ... I admit it myself

[nila]

nila, Nelya, the main thing is that you make tea ... And you can report back in winter, when everything will be - and Internet, and a computer, and a lot of tea!

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, the link opens, apparently you have something there .. But these fireweed are far from willow-tea (and look completely different), they have a different genus. And can you make tea from them ..?

Luda, opened a website using the link Zakhariya. An incomprehensible plant is very similar to tetrahedral fireweed. It grows in the south of Russia, in Ukraine, and in the Crimea.

Fireweed tetrahedral.

No. He should have a flower of four petals.

[Amasar]

AmasarThey have a different genus for the last 10 years. Before that, there was only one ... And tea from narrow-leaved was made from ancient times precisely in the north and in the center of Russia, where there are no other fireweeds, only narrow-leaved, which used to be called narrow-leaved fireweed, and now officially renamed to Ivan-tea, although earlier it was folk name. The chemical composition of all representatives of the genus Fireweed is similar, some have something more or less. But tannins, tannins, are everywhere.And not a single poisonous species was found.

[Radushka]

Radushkawho has it? The photo of an identifiable plant has four petals on a flower. At the loosestrife 6.

the link opens, apparently you have something there ..

opened a website at the link Zachariah.

Well, it's time to clean my computer for a long time. But I don’t want to do this without my son. Okay, at least the Bread Maker opens.

This is a photo of a tetrahedral fireweed flower in Novorossiysk

I went to this site with vegetable gardens. I just typed in the name in Yandex "Plants of the Crimea. Fireweed". It happened. Apparently my computer is blocking links.
Girls, I think that you can make tea from any fireweed. Try it if it grows with you.

Goodnight. Late saw the message. This is the kind of Ivan-tea that grows near Kiev in a field, the photo was taken two weeks ago. And in the forest I collected, there are more and more leaves, this weekend we will go to the village, take a picture.

[Natalia Koval]

Natalia Koval, Natasha, where is the promised technology of tea with berries? I'd like to try to do it while there are raspberries.

[Radushka]

Radushka, in the theme of fermented tea from garden plants.

[Natasha]

This is the kind of Ivan-tea that grows near Kiev in the field

Natasha, he ... He's exactly ... And what then do the girls from Ukraine write that they have no fireweed?
Natasha, thanks for the photo!

girls, now I have returned, I gathered flowers to dry and I want to knead the leaves with my hands.
Purely intuitively, I scored as many leaves and wanted 1.6 kg. It seemed more difficult for me to knead. Lyudmila will try without a freezer.

Lilya, good luck!

Lily, good luck

girls, now I'm back, I've picked up some flowers to dry and I want to knead the leaves with my hands

Girls, tell me, I wanted to make MACHO, that is, knead the leaves, but I took the raw materials from the freezer, in the end: a dense, wet lump! Probably you just need to knead the withered leaves?

[Lucilia]

Lucilia, Lyudmila wrote that now the leaves are not yet rough and additional destruction through the freezer is not necessary ...

I kneaded Lucie last time after the freezer.

[Ludmila]

Probably you just need to knead the withered leaves?

Ludmila, yes, just dried up is better. We don't need extra juice.
Lily, thanks for answering.

[Veronica]

I want to consult, I make tea for the first year,

Julia, excuse me for not answering right away, the laptop flew at home, and there was a blockage at work yesterday!
I immediately see your mistakes about drying tea in a pan. In no case should you turn on the fire to the maximum, you what !!!
I want to say that I have a good oven and dryer, but for some reason I dry ONLY in a frying pan, in the same way, for some unknown reason, I make tea only by hand twisting, and not a meat grinder).
so, we collect the leaves, wither, the last time I wither for 12 hours, we twist them into rolls and ... then again, maybe my fussy starts here, but I immediately cut them into small washers, and into small ones, about 3 mm and put them under oppression, on top with a damp cloth. I love well-fermented tea, at least 12 hours, if it doesn't work out on time with drying, then after 12 hours I take off the oppression and put my container in the refrigerator until evening, let's say, when there is time for drying. We take a thick-walled frying pan, turn on the stove for a C grade (I have an electric stove) and pour the future tea in a layer of up to 5 cm. I spread it high on the walls, because it is noticed that the tea dries well on the walls. The raw material immediately becomes wet, even starts to "hiss", I do not leave, I try to break all the washers, I turn it over every 2-3 minutes. So the tea dries for me for about 10 minutes, no more, then I reduce the temperature, turn on the two. again I do not go far and for a long time, periodically stir, when the moisture evaporates, then I stir gently with my hands, and then I feel if there is moisture in it or not. When there is practically no moisture left, then I switch to one, again sometimes I mix. With this method of drying, you feel the whole process with your hands and gut)), do it a couple of times and you will understand everything.Last year I also burned cherries, there was no experience, and the only one, so Veronica,

such a sinister

, I then remembered it for a long time. I leave the tea in the pan until it cools. If you have any questions, write!

Hello Cherepovets, after graduation I worked there at the forestry enterprise))

[Natasha]

Natasha, he ... He's exactly ... But what then do the girls from Ukraine write that they do not have fireweed?
Natasha, thanks for the photo!

Please!) There is definitely fireweed, let the girls look!

On weekends, they took fireweed, came from the dacha in the evening, I went over it and stuffed it into the freezer without withering ... And now that's it, hello, nothing will work out?

[londar]

londar, oh ... oh ... oh ... But don't throw anything away. roll into rolls. These leaves are already minced and cannot be kneaded.

[Galina Iv.]

Galina Iv., Checkmark dear, thank you very much. Now I will link to the first page.

londar, oh ... oh ... oh ... But don't throw anything away. roll into rolls. These leaves are already minced and cannot be kneaded.

Phew ..... Well, sheet is also good, otherwise I thought everything ... pipe ..... Thank you !!!! I'm going to spin the rolls)))

[Galina Iv.]

Galina Iv., Galina, THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!

[YulikaSo]

YulikaSo, Julia, but not at all for that! In general, drying with a layer of 5 cm takes me about an hour, the main thing is not to rush, let yourself dry and dry slowly. The last time I dried it, my husband said that your whole house smelled of tea, there was such a scent)).

I dried the first batch. Wow, what a cool guy I am!)))

Loved to ferment in the oven. Do not include anything, just lock the bowl covered with a damp cloth. The humidity remains there (I did not have to wet the fabric for 12 hours) and the temperature is completely constant (the oven is airtight). The own heating during fermentation is enough, because this heat is stored in the oven.

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrow, Nata, congratulations! Well done! You see, I adapted everything for myself. This is how everyone should approach the process - creatively!

Here is a young fireweed.





wilderness endless fields!

[Olya]

Olya, so it looks like my fields. I even thought at first that these were my photos. I even have the same photo of young Ivanushka - in May I posted it in the subject.

Yes, Luda, there is only one direction - west, but I'm closer to Moscow, beyond Kubinka. And such fields are almost behind the house.

Olya, yesterday I showed a photo of my meadow in the "Tea Gazebo" - very much like yours, only a different angle. I took pictures right from the window of the veranda. And Ivanushka is visible there. Also next to the house this splendor.

that I have Ivan-tea ..

Hey. This is him for sure)))

Does he like warmth or coolness?

I have places Ivanushka grows in a meadow and there are places where he also grows in an open place. But in the first case, the groundwater is close and it is tall, healthy, powerful leaf. And in the second case, dry land and Ivanushka is low (up to my knee), the leaf is small and rough. He loves the sun and moderate moisture and cannot stand dryness at all.)))

wilderness endless fields!

It looks like Siberia))

Good evening. Please tell me how it will affect the quality of the tea if I dried the leaves a little and there was almost no juice when curling, but the color of the leaves changed to dark green, do not scold much the first time, in the future I will correct mistakes. And how long can the tea be brewed after drying.

[pavel1963]

pavel1963, if the leaves darkened, then the juice squeezed out. This is enough for fermentation. Juice is a conditional concept. It shouldn't be visible explicitly. A sign of the appearance of sap is a uniform darkening of all leaves, and not partial.
About how long you can brew, I wrote in the recipe - not earlier than a month later. It takes time for dry fermentation. But nothing bad will happen if you brew immediately after drying the tea. You may simply be disappointed - the tea has not yet been brewed ... For example, now I am drinking fresh tea, since all last year's tea was over long ago.I understand that it's early, but where to go?
To know for sure whether the leaves are withered, you can weigh them before and after the wilting. Residual moisture should be 60%. That is, if the leaves weigh 1000 grams before withering, then the end of the withering process should be considered the moment when the same leaves weigh 600 grams.

[Olya]

Olya, so it looks like my fields. I even thought at first that these were my photos. I even have the same photo of young Ivanushka - in May I posted it in the subject.

Yesterday, however, I took a picture of a young fireweed.

Young people can be found here too. And the one in the photo is growing among the fireweed, which has grown more than 2 meters. Today I tore the leaves, so I drowned in it.