Kitty
I will immediately indicate - I do not mind copying my gingerbread cookies, it only hurts me in one case, when the copies are not just bad, but below any criticism, but for three pennies, I also have several cases in my piggy bank, though with cakes , ordered, then the customer decided, yes, I can do it myself, I slapped two cakes, homemade-wowuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, you're a genius! and went to sculpt heaps for sale, again for three kopecks. Plagiarism is when they expose your work, but they sign that it is not yours, everything else is copies, motives, details, if done by another, this is no longer plagiarism, even if it is done according to your sample to the last comma.
Anna26
Kitty,
Directly my case! I was ordered by a girl who bakes cakes, gingerbread on the cake. Closer to the date, she turned on the back, after a couple of days she uploads a photo with a cake on which gingerbreads flaunt (I have neither the right nor my habit to judge them). I ask - did you decide to bake yourself? Yes, she says, she decided not to trust anyone, because she did her relatives)))
Nansy
Phew, money for the fish again. An inexhaustible topic about plagiarism. Honestly, I do not understand those authors who are offended that they are being plagiarized. If you do not want to be plagiarized, hide your gingerbread and cakes under the pillow and do not show it to anyone. Stealing other people's photos is one thing, it is unacceptable, but plagiarizing ideas is another. And it is not necessary to call this double morality, everyone has a different morality. And everyone earns as he can, I do not see anything wrong with putting up for sale gingerbread, copied from someone. I made them myself, I sat and pored over them day and night. And I also do not consider it necessary to indicate the author of the idea, if I know, I will indicate, and if I don’t know, I’m sorry. I have a bunch of pictures on my computer not signed, where should I look for their authors? Yes, and I need it, spend so much time searching for the author? I don’t sign my photos either, and I won’t be offended if they don’t show me. I think that the problem has been sucked out of the blue. Well, in any case, ideas are in the air, these masters also do not come up with the design in their pure form, no need to dissemble. Someone somewhere saw a postcard, someone was inspired by a cartoon, someone a picture, someone else with something. And in general, I abruptly cease to respect the masters who post statuses like "I want not to be copied or asked for my permission, or pointed out me as an author," so it becomes disgusting, honestly ...
Vei
Quote: Nansy
Phew, money for the fish again.
well, how! And then the topic became quiet and boring, and then look, what debates unfolded!
elena88
Anna26, if small gingerbread, then toothpicks, of course!
Anna26
Nansy,
Natasha, why is the cake called "From Despair"?)
Nansy
Quote: Vei
otherwise the topic became quiet and boring
All this debate! The girls brought so much beauty, there would be no way to sit admiring, admiring and appeasing)) And in general, spring is outside, I want to go outside, and not debate here


Added Thursday, 10 March 2016 2:18 PM

Quote: Anna26
Natasha, why is the cake called "From Despair"?)
which one? The topic is about gingerbread :)))
Anna26
elena88,
well, how small ... 10-12 cm



Added Thursday, 10 March 2016 2:19 pm

Nansy,
went to the gallery
Mona1
Quote: Vei

Well, how! And then the topic became quiet and boring, and then look, what debates unfolded!
Lizochka, this is after the 8th March all-day crunch time for the people to relax, time has appeared to debate))
Angelina Pryanikova
Quote: Yrochka

It annoys me when a person is not critical of himself and is eager to sell at any cost.
I am just the same very critical of myself. I see that the job is not perfect, but again in comparison to someone else.At first I baked and painted for gifts, if people are satisfied with my level and the taste of my gingerbread and they want more, should I give them again and again? Well I'm sorry. I want and sell. If they buy, then they like it, then they have the right to be! They want a parody of someone's work, I'll make a copy for them, and I'll get paid for it! I have the right too! Every work must be paid.
Nansy
Quote: Anna26
went to the gallery
Aaaaa, there the link opens, there I described the process of creating this "masterpiece"
elena88
Anna26, Anh, attach this and the other to the gingerbread and see. What harmonious looks, then insert. But 10-12cm is still large for toothpicks.
Anna26
elena88,
well, that's the same! There are such shovels and put them on toothpicks! Oh well ... The skewer is, of course, in size, but damn it, she picks me a gingerbread!
elena88
Anna26, Anh, that's why I insert the skewers into the raw dough. And no hassle. Do not invent problems for yourself from scratch.
Anna26
elena88,
thanks, Len, I'll try. Lord, if only there were no more orders for skewers!
elena88
Anna26, in vain you are so. Even when I just bake gingerbread for my son, I sometimes insert toothpicks. I love this happy face when he chooses a gingerbread on a stick and his eyes are so cunning!
Anna26
elena88,
well, I probably need to succeed at least once without problems, then I won't be so categorically disposed


Added Thursday, 10 March 2016, 15:05

elena88,
then I will definitely report back)
DaNiSa
Quote: Anna26
Lord, if only there were no more orders for skewers!
but I like to make children on skewers very interesting to just take them in their hands)) I insert the skewer into the hot gingerbread, it cools down - it sticks tightly))
Anna26
Well, here are my unfortunate ones, though I have already shown them
We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies
Mona1
Anna26, Anya, I roll out the dough thicker for gingerbread, for those on the skewer. I take it out of the oven and immediately stick in the skewer. It cools down with it, And then I gently twist it as if from a gingerbread, decorate it, and insert the skewer before pouring it, squeezing it into the icing hole. And then I pour the gingerbread. Pouring on top of the gingerbread and icing in the hole seem to dry at the same time.
Anna26
Mona1,
I do so, but for some reason when, after cooling down, I try to insert a skewer, a hole turns out to be smaller than the diameter of the skewer, and the surface of the khan's gingerbread (if I do not grind the skewer with a knife)
Yrochka
Girls, before inserting the skewer into the hot, prepared gingerbread, dip the tip 2 cm into the egg white. She will be baked so that the gingerbread will have to be nibbled from the skewer and nothing will fall. Tested with different doughs and soft, hard and dry.
Anna26
Yrochka,
Ira, protein or icing? Or leave some protein for the skewers?
Mona1
Quote: Anna26

Mona1,
I do so, but for some reason when, after cooling down, I try to insert a skewer, a hole turns out to be smaller than the diameter of the skewer, and the surface of the khan's gingerbread (if I do not grind the skewer with a knife)
Look, I insert the skewer - into the gingerbread just taken out of the oven, and then I take it out after it has cooled completely and reinsert it too. I take out not from the warm one, but from the already completely cooled one.


Added Thursday, 10 March 2016 15:42

Yrochka, Ira, an interesting method, I'll try.
Anna26
Mona1,
it apparently cools down and the hole narrows
Yrochka
Anna26, into crude protein. I once read in the instructions for wooden skewers that they are soaked in water before stringing the product on them so that the pieces do not fly off later. Well, by the same analogy, I count the required number of skewers and put them vertically in a glass of protein. As it bakes, I take it out and stick it in.

And to catch up I want to say that I am not against copying. We just understand everything in terms of personal experience. I have it such that we stand at the same fairs with the same gingerbread. And we work for the same local clients. Exclusively in this vein, I ask you to understand my writings above Bombanulo off topic, in general, me. Please understand and forgive.
ledi
Angelina Pryanikova, and where can I see the photo? Are you ok? maybe we are already friends?
Kitty
Girls, to dilute the topic, I will show my 8 March crafts)

Casket
We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies



little animals

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies


sets for grandmothers

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies


bouquets

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies


sets for women of fashion

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies
We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies



well, eights are all different)

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies
We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies

We decorate gingerbread cookies, cookies


everything seems to be))))))))
Anna26
Girls, you are great - you participate in fairs, you exhibit works. I can never do that!
By the way, I also wanted to ask Angelina - show me at least because of what gingerbread did the fuss start?)


Added Thursday, 10 Mar 2016 15:55

Kitty,
masterpieces, nothing more to say, especially the casket
grischakowa
Girls, tell me. I want to try gingerbread with pictures. Which is better? Sugar or waffle? Our sugar is three times more expensive, but for the waffles I read that the picture on them is not so clear !!! And how to put them on the carrot? Wet fill?
ledi
Girls, I don’t have time to write and read after you. everything turns out that from the Internet all plagiarism. Let's say I found a picture, a drawing of bears on the internet means I already stole it, someone drew it, and gingerbread cookies are popular with these bears, snowmen, monkeys. Let's say I saw pictures of monkeys before New Year's gingerbread appeared. so now from the fact that I was late with the production, now I couldn't make such a gingerbread ?!
Kitty
Quote: ledi
everything turns out that from the Internet all plagiarism.
Vera, plagiarism, if you take a photo of someone else's product and write that it is yours, everything else is copying, whether by elements or entirely by design, but if your own work is exhibited, this is not plagiarism.
Vei
Kitty, Tanya, well, all the gingerbread cookies are good, all bright, colorful, beautiful, neat, as always super! What recipe did you use to bake the box with bears?


Added Thursday, 10 March 2016 4:13 PM

Quote: grischakowa
Which is better? Sugar or waffle?
for me, sugar is definitely better, although its taste leaves much to be desired. But sometimes it greatly simplifies and speeds up the execution of complex gingerbread or a very large number.
Waffle did not work, for me this is an unclear question. As I understand it, wafer paper is also different and behaves differently.
harmful78
Quote: Yrochka
we stand at the same fairs with the same gingerbread. And we work for the same local clients
Yes, this is the same situation. Because in most cases people don't pay attention to quality, especially at the fair. They can still look at this in the photo, and even then not always. And in the end you just stand with more expensive gingerbread and that's it. And ordinary people do not understand this fact. This time, one client wrote to me that my gingerbread was "perfect as always" (for the first time in the whole year that I have been dealing with gingerbread)


Added Thursday, 10 March 2016 4:19 pm

Kitty, everyone is good! Well done! A very good idea - a medallion tied to a gingerbread. In my opinion, this is so cute. And from what chamomile in eights?
lilycha
please tell me where do you buy cuttings for gingerbread
Vei
Tanya, how do I like your eights with daisies / tulips, get ready for copying next year
Kitty
girls, thank you, the dough from Lera Sahara, for which she has a lot of kisses and hugs, she just reduced the soda three times for the box, flowers from mastic
Yrochka
ledi, I think it has nothing to do with popular pictures. Probably no one would ever think to swing a pava about Mickey or minions, unless it was some kind of directly exclusive set with a wonderful idea and implemented under the author's nose.
grischakowa, it is good to print on sugar, if there are a lot of very small details, but otherwise I see no reason to overpay for it. Both options taste not ice, in my opinion. The girls advised me to glue it on the decor gel. I liked it more than putting it on wet icing.
Kitty
Quote: Vei
Tanya, how do I like your eights with daisies / tulips, get ready for copying next year
it's as much as you like! : a-kiss: icing tulips, daisies-roses-mastic
Vei
Quote: Kitty
chamomile-roses-mastic
what are you? and I thought icing, I would make icing
that's what I'm talking about, you seem to want to repeat it, but still you will do it in your own way))) for me from icing faster and easier.
Kitty
Quote: Vei
for me, icing is faster and easier.
Well, it's easier for me in the same way from mastic))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Vei
Quote: Kitty
I'm not actually a gingerbread maker, I'm a cake
in fact you are a Master who can do anything!)) I respect and admire very much!
Marusya23
Kitty, Tatiana, what kind of work you have, so much variety. Ochan liked the boxes and Teddy😍 I also dream of this, so that I could try something new, but alas, in a city that is alien to me, there are not even friends and, accordingly, reasons for new work😑
Regarding plagiarism, I support that what is available to everyone on the network and everyone can use the idea, with modifications or not, is everyone's business. But I also understand Yrochka, when she is looking for something, she thinks up herself and this "brainchild" is someone "tyrit".
Kitty
thank you, Lizonka,: a-kiss: I am not able to do everything, unfortunately, but there is room to strive for.
Marusya23
Girls, please tell me how to give thanks?
Vei
Tatyana, and what did you lubricate the gingerbread with so that such shine appeared and at what point? I'm asking about the box.
elena88
Kitty, Tan, how cool, festive, bright !!! I liked everything very much. I can't even highlight anything. But I promise to plagiarize the bouquets next year. Idea and execution - class! So Lisa and I already have designs for inspiration.
Kitty
Quote: Vei
Tatyana, what did you lubricate the gingerbread with so that this shine appeared and at what point? I'm asking about the box
and for the glaze, too, Sugar little kisses and hugs)))))) only I add 1 more teaspoon of milk, it turns out - 1 yolk (rub through a sieve),
1 teaspoon of condensed milk, 1 teaspoon of milk, grease after baking, like the gingerbread cookies will cool a little, and in the oven at 35 degrees + convection for 15 minutes. brillianceiiiiiiiiiit-super)



Added Thursday, 10 March 2016 4:54 pm

Quote: elena88
So Lisa and I already have designs for inspiration.
Thank you, I'm glad that my gingerbread cookies will be a source of inspiration, which means I didn't try in vain)))))))
DaNiSa
Quote: Marusya23
Girls, please tell me how to give thanks?
under the avatar there is an active THANK YOU button, click on it and write in the open window, for which you thank the person
Kitty
DaNiSa, Alyonushka, I can't change my avatar, just cry, where can I see the restrictions on weight and size?

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