Bread maker Endever (Kromax) SkyLine BM-50

I soaked the spatula for a day, then after that I also decided to twist in different directions,

After the end of the last kneading, I immediately pull out the spatula and the hole in the bottom of the bread is neat and the spatula is back more intact (it is not exposed to high temperatures). And after the end of baking, I take out a bucket of bread and holding it by the handle, while lowering my hand, I spin the bucket along the axis of the shaft clockwise and counterclockwise. With this movement, the bread in the bucket scrolls just a little bit around the shaft, to and fro and detaches from the shaft and from the bucket. Several such movements and bread pops up with a bang. Forgive me for interfering with your topic, because I have HP Scarlet. But probably all this can be done in this HP.

[Mila56]

Mila56, thanks, if there is an opportunity - I will clean. Basically, I'm putting on a program for the night.

And cardamom, I wonder what flavor it gives? Never used it.

Cardamom has a spicy aroma. And the taste is sweetish, burning. The ginger family.
It is added to cookies, muffins, gingerbread. And if you add a little cardamom to coffee, it turns out very tasty.

I noticed that when I removed the mayonnaise from the recipe, the bread became lower, but the diet is a diet. For a more "rubbery" crumb, add a spoonful of apple cider vinegar, as advised in some topic.

Katyusha, and I mostly bake bread without milk, eggs and other muffins. Sometimes I bake mayonnaise bread, but without mayonnaise, bread is no lower. I never add vinegar, but a spoonful of dried vegetable cream often. I admit only pressed yeast. It is very good to use potato broth. Recently baked potato bread, so he generally rested against the viewing window. And yesterday I put the usual one for the night, like this:
30 g of vegetable oil,
280 g of water
2 tbsp. l. Sahara
1 st. l of dried vegetable cream,
9 grams of compressed yeast,
480 gr of premium flour (very inexpensive "First thing"),
1h l. salt

First, I turned on the 1st program, tracked the bun, then turned it off, set the program number 4 (French), weight-900, the crust is dark, set the delay 6 hours 30 minutes.
In the morning I pulled out a tall, fluffy, crispy crust.

Good afternoon everyone!

... And yesterday I put the usual one for the night, like this:
30 g of vegetable oil,
280 g of water
2 tbsp. l. Sahara
1 st. l of dried vegetable cream,
9 grams of compressed yeast,
480 gr of premium flour (very inexpensive "First thing"),
1h l. salt

I baked bread according to your recipe at night. It turned out right above all the praises) Thanks for the recipe! I was afraid that a bun weighing 1 kg would be a bit too much for us, I made small ones on the old one, it was enough for us for a couple of days, but apparently, it turned out so tasty that now it's half))) I really added a little flaxseeds, my children love my bread with seeds. The bread turned out with an excellent texture, the crust is excellent, all so pretty), with a wonderful tan)
I just can't figure out how to upload and insert photos (

[Margo70]

Margo70, I'm glad my recipe came in handy. Did you bake bread with a delay? I baked it for two days in a row. I put it at night, and in the morning the fresh one is already ready. He flies away quickly.
I have it like this:

Baking in a Rolsen bucket

Did you bake bread with a delay?

No, no delay, right away. And with a delay by the appointed time, he has time to cool down? I pull it out at night, cover it, but by morning it is still warm)

Added Saturday 08 Oct 2016 11:00

Please tell us more about your onion sourdough. I want to try) Thank you

No, no delay, right away.And with a delay by the appointed time, he has time to cool down? I pull it out at night, cover it, but by morning it is still warm)

Added Saturday 08 Oct 2016 11:00

Please tell us more about your onion sourdough. I want to try) Thank you

With a delay I put it overnight, and in the morning I take it out, cover it with a towel and while I'm getting ready, the bread is slowly cooling down.
I learned about onion sourdough on the My HP website. Here's a link 🔗
There is a lot of information, and my comments are there.

I learned about onion sourdough on the My HP website.
There is a lot of information, and my comments are there.

Thank you! Only a link to the slow cooker) but I found) thanks

Yesterday I tested program 8 "Multigrain" baked from a mixture of "Baking at home" cereal. I like the mixture of this company, the bread is always successful, but they are all sweet for us.
3.07 batch 1
3.02 rest
3.00 batch 2
2.43 pi-pi several times, you can fill in the seeds)
2.38 rise 1
1.50 scrolled a little (wrinkle)
1.49 rise 3 (apparently lift 1 and 2 in this stove are merged into one)
I missed the pastry, caught it at 0.45

Today I decided to make pies on yeast dough, I will test this program)

Added Sunday, 09 Oct 2016 1:49 PM

12 program "Yeast dough"
1.24 batch 1
1.21 batch 2
1.06 squeaked - what could you ask? Add flour if it looks watery?
1.02 rise 2 (here it was apparently found in non-bread programs it is used)
0.11 ascent 3 with little scroll
0.00 shutdown
I took out a lukewarm dough, it stuck slightly to my hands. I got it out of the bucket without problems

I'm sorry, but I seem to have copied the link correctly
I also just put the yeast dough on the pies. The signal is given to the addition of raisins or seeds, etc. to the dough. And I add flour during kneading, tracking the bun, the flour is different, one is drier, the other is more moist. The third rise is sourdough bread in the program, and baking lasts, in my opinion, 50 minutes.

Tanya, about pressed yeast, do you dilute them in water? I have always used instant yeast in my bread maker. I also had a bookmark in the mulinex - do not mix yeast with water, that is, I pour it onto flour.

Yes, Lena, I either dilute compressed yeast in liquid, or you can grind it with granulated sugar, it immediately becomes liquid. They mix very quickly in water, and if sugar and a little flour are added to the water, they quickly begin to work, and a dough is obtained. I also tried fast-acting dry ones, but I like pressed ones more, I got used to them since childhood.

Girls, my whole head has already broken when choosing HP. For some reason, I stopped at this brand: the budget one and the reviews are not bad ... only I can not decide whether the 50th or 51st model is better to take ... And, also, tell me, pzh-that, does she knead dumplings dough or not? I will really wait for advice ...

Tanya, that is, you first pour the dough into the bucket, and then add the flour, right?

not bad ... only I can not decide whether the 50th or 51st model is better to take

And what attracts you to the 50th model? It costs more, of the advantages, in my opinion, only a removable cover. There are fewer programs, metallic. the body can get hotter than plastic, I don't need a handle like a multicooker in the oven, besides, this is the previous model with less power.
About test modes

Dough, program number 11, means just dough for dumplings, just knead for 23 minutes.
- Yeast dough, pr. No. 12. Kneading, lifting, kneading and more lifting.

And I got first-grade flour, what a delicious bread it turned out, and even with flaxseed, sesame and sunflower seeds.

Quote: Lipochka on Oct 13. 2016, 22:36
not bad ... only I can not decide whether the 50th or 51st model is better to take
And what attracts you to the 50th model? It is more expensive, of the advantages, in my opinion, only a removable cover. There are fewer programs, metallic. the body can get hotter than plastic, I don't need a handle like a multicooker in the oven, besides, this is the previous model with less power.

Thank you, I will read more reviews.Are these HP kneading dumplings dough? Or must there be a special program?

Tanya, that is, you first pour the dough into the bucket, and then add the flour, right?

First I pour in the oil, then the liquid and then the flour. If I bake with sourdough, then add the sourdough after the water, that is, between the liquid and the flour.

Baked a kind of ciabatu)
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Flour 220 gr 1st grade
40 gr corn flour
water 150 gr
yeast 1.3 tsp
salt a little less tsp.
Program 1. But you need to keep an eye on the kolobok, because sometimes you need to add water or flour. I often fall asleep with a mixture of pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, flaxseed and sesame seeds. It turns out very tasty.
The roof sagged a little. It is her own fault, during the last ascent she unsuccessfully pulled out the blade (
This kind of bread is loved by my children, it is not sweet, slightly salty

Added Saturday 15 Oct 2016 08:33 PM

Are these HP kneading dumplings dough? Or must there be a special program?

There is a dough program. You read the entire discussion on HP)

Margarita, tell me please, did you bake the ciabata on a small size? As it is, I always bake bread for 1 kg., But here you probably need to switch?

Did you bake the ciabata on a small size ??

Yes, 750 gr. and a dark crust)

I bought myself an Endever 54 stove, there is no backlight in this stove. There are already buyers of this model here. I want to ask you whether there is a backlight or not? The coating of the bucket is not very good paint has worn off in the places where the bolts are inside the bowl (connection). Can you tell me if you can buy a bowl for this model?

Yes, there is no backlight. The bucket came up from Rolsen and the scapula too.

Thank you, can you buy a Rolsen bucket?

Yes, I bought it 2 times. The first time I bought a used one for 700 rubles, and then a new one for 500 rubles. In it I bake in turn with my family. And I also use the Rolsen blade more often. It has better coverage.

Tatyana, I have an endever 54 (small cotton), baked goods for 500g. and 750gr. Are the buckets on model 51 and 54 the same? What do you think?

Added Thursday, 01 Dec 2016 12:28

I like Endever 54 bread maker. I bake besides bread and charlotte, it turns out like in the oven. The only bad thing is that there is no bucket and spatula on sale.

Added Thursday, 01 Dec 2016 12:31 PM

On sale at REDMOND there is a bucket for x / p 1908. Do you know if this bucket is suitable for Endever 54?

Good afternoon, Maria! I apologize for not immediately responding. I don't know exactly about the bucket, but I think that 54 should have less, because 51 have a maximum baking weight of 900 grams. I can't say anything about Redmond either. We must take our bucket and go compare. I'm going to do everything like this with a bucket from Mystery, because I can't find it anywhere, but I read somewhere that it comes from Moulinex. I will look for

Thank you, I think to do so too. Take a bucket and compare in the store. We will look for something similar.

Hello. I have a question for the owners of Endever MB-51. Could you measure this bread maker: width-depth-height? I like the model very much, but there are doubts that she will fit in the place allotted to her.In the Internet, there are some contradictory data ...

The size of the space occupied by the Endever MB-54 stove is 25.5 cm, 22 cm deep, 44 cm. You yourself want to bake Endever 51. I don’t know the size of this stove.

Good evening. From today I am also the owner of the Endever MB-51. Already kneaded dumplings dough, just a magical result) baked white bread with sourdough, tried it on the "French bread" program, the crust is medium, the bread is tasty, tender, but the top crust was almost not browned, and he was light brown, they turned on additionally "Baking ", slightly reddened on top, bottom and sides pretty. Then I baked a cupcake, just not from a book, but "by eye", the "Cupcake" program, the crust is medium, not bad, but in the future I will bake in the oven, there I am already sure what and how to put it and what the result will be, but the top the crust again disappointed, it is, of course, baked, but absolutely not ruddy ... I don't know what to do ... is it a marriage? or should you choose a dark crust? I don't want to part with her at all ... I already love her very much)

On the French bread mode, the crust always comes out lighter, at least for me. If you want darker, add more sugar to the dough. I never baked cupcakes in a bread maker, so I won't tell you.

So, the "cupcake" program is the same (I'll try other programs, maybe panic in vain

[evansia]

The size of the space occupied by the Endever MB-51 stove is 25.5 cm high and 22 cm wide

Thank you, evansia, but it is not clear to me now whether you have an MB-51 or is it an MB-54?

Hello everybody! I plan to replenish the ranks of the owners of this oven) I have already ordered model 51, I'm waiting for it to arrive at the store.
Tell me, I looked at the ready-made mixtures in the supermarket, where all the additives (seeds, dried fruits) are mixed immediately into the mixture. The question is - does it mean that you need to add it only after the first batch? Maybe immediately charge?
Has anyone tried to close together with flour?

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I have a x / p endever 54.

Added Wednesday 15 Feb 2017 03:36 PM

The cupcakes are good in this oven. The color of the cake crust is not light at all. I tried to bake casserole, it turns out well.

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Girls. take us to your company, today a friend bought a baby 54.
How good she is. stylish, neat.
We started with the program "French", for me it’s a surprise that this prog. there is no warm-up, kneading starts immediately and the time is 3:19.
In my HP lg, it warms up for 20 minutes. and the time is 4:00
We tried bread with 400 g of flour, how did it get good .. 5 minutes before baking, the bun rested against the glass
They immediately turned off the program and turned on Bakery products 40 minutes.
Baked well with a crispy crust.
We decided to make the next bread with 300 g of flour.
The hostess was pleased with baby 54.
Girls, a question.
On what mode does it warm up first, then kneading, etc.,
What does the Fermentation mode mean, what is it for?

Good morning everyone! Take it into your ranks, yesterday I became the owner of this bread machine. I chose for a long time, looked and thought which one to take, the choice was between endever and mystery 1209, in the end I took this one, your admiring reviews helped! While I tried to bake bread on it according to one of the recipes on this site, I put it on overnight, so I did not watch the process itself, but in the morning I saw how bread was baked, I had not tried it yet, but it looked very beautiful, I baked it on the first program! While she pleases me, not very noisy, I will continue to experiment

Endever 54 did not find a program with preheating the mixture. Maybe it's a fermentation program. This program heats up. But I don't use this program. I just add milk or water warm.

evansia Maria, thanks!

In what mode does it first warm up, then knead, etc.,
What does the Fermentation mode mean, what is it for?

Lyudochka, glad to meet you. I have my 51st model for a year now. I have not tried all 19 programs, but I have tested the main ones. With preheating, I have Whole Grain. I can't say anything about Fermentation, I haven't tried it. Most often I use French, I like stove with a delay. A unique program - Sourdough Bread. I like it, just need to choose the right amount of yeast (yeast is indicated in the instructions, but according to the instructions I don't bake anything).

I'm upset
The store did not bring the 51st model to me - they say they did not find it in the warehouse (oh, as it happens. They offered Scarlet to replace it, I refused.
In other stores, 51st is at least 15% more expensive, and delivery to our city is paid, it turns out to be all 20 more expensive
Now I look at the 53rd. It is "right now" at the price of my custom 51st) but I can't decide) the unflattering reviews about the 52nd are scary, but they are very similar.
In general, I understood so from the 51st they are analogs, only the weight of the bread max 700g and the body is metal.
I have never had HP, I have little idea of ​​the size of homemade bread) who is experienced, tell me - is 700g a sufficient size for a family of 4 people?

Is 700gr enough for a family of 4?

Quite! This is almost 500 grams of flour! Put a 500-gram bag of flour on the table, and see how much it will be, plus water, additives ...

Aha, yes! I bake in the oven for 400 grams of flour, it rises more than 2 times and we have enough
Thank you!

Bought model 54!
Overall impressions - satisfied! Everything is beautiful and clear, easy to manage.
Of the shortcomings - after all, a bucket of 750g is not enough, it is inconvenient that all the recipes are needed.
The first one baked a ready-made mixture for white bread Pudov, although the bread was designed for 700 grams, but he rested against the window, because of this the roof was with a photo of the lid and was white.
Today we tried sourdough bread on the mode of the same name. Whole grain sourdough, 1st grade flour. The bread at the last proofing rested against the window, during baking it fell. Have not tasted, it is still getting cold

Lots of leaven?
I tried a piece from a shoulder blade - it seems sour

KOLENOCHKA, if sour exactly a lot of leaven. I also got sour on the sourdough bread program, apparently I need it just a little. I got used to baking white or French bread on the program, I add about 100 grams of sourdough, it turns out well, it is not sour and only 3.5 hours, not 7) Only I do not have enough roastiness, after the end of the program I still turn on the baking program for 10 minutes then good for me)

Sourdough bread - so that it is not sour))

Thank you! Let's read, study! For the first sourdough bread in HP, I think it's not bad all the same)
And to distract, with cuts - there is sourness, but weak. The family said delicious, and the husband said - like a grandmother's in childhood in Ukraine
It reminded me of bread from a bakery, when I was little, in the 80s)))
Cutaway

Wheat yeast bread according to the recipe from the forum "Airy pleasure" in French mode. I re-read the recipe by 0.75, but I will reduce it even further, because I ran into the window, which remained a photograph on the roof. Instead of water, I took potato broth (because I was) and, accordingly, without salt.
Bread was put at night, prepared independently for breakfast. It turned out very good.

If anyone thinks about it, then the 51st model has appeared in the CSN Technopoint at a very good price, less than 4 thousand.
I almost burst into tears when they sent me an SMS. Everything suits me in 54, except for the size. It is still for a family of 2, maximum 3 people. Especially there is not enough volume when you just put the dough