Julia V
More from alloy, I think. And the composition of powders is probably almost the same, maybe there is more soda or fragrances. Here's a gel, maybe not so aggressive.

Stainless steel than my hosh, it only becomes cleaner
Fairy
What is the name of the gel? Where do you buy?
Julia V
I have Somat gel, somehow I got caught in the department of PMM products. But he does not take tea plaque on cups.
* Anyuta *
Girls, did anyone wash Belobok in PMM?
Hairpin
Well, I washed it ... well, in the days of the dinosaurs ... And what will happen to her? Will it dull? Tea is not a knife, spice is not needed ... The residual memory of temperature expansions (whose thesis was there, I don't remember) is not afraid of it ...
Where is the trouble?
* Anyuta *
Quote: Hairpin

Where is the trouble?

I cooked ham yesterday in AG (the "first acquaintance" with the white-sided was) ... I made a layer of foil in the white-sided layer of foil .. after cooking, "small spots" went on the inside ... black ... the size of literally 1/4 of a match head ... well, how is "rust" chtoli ... to see the reaction with foil such ... I could not wash it by hand ... now I think if it won't be after PMM ?? ... or, on the contrary, it will wash away these spots!
Giraffe
Someone washed condensed milk or conc. milk? I just looked at them today, ready for a miscarriage and thought they were cool forms for Easter cakes. Only now they are too lazy to wash them with pens. And most importantly, I baked them and threw them away, shortly before next Easter they will still be typed. You never know what we buy in such jars.
izvarina.d
I did not try. Tanya, wash one, and then we'll see.
Scarlett
Tanya, she will wash almost everything, but the question is, will rust show through on them? But maybe, if once, everything will be fine. I have a usual whisk and after about the fifth wash they started to get covered with rusty spots from the mixer, okay, it would be a three-kopeck whisk, but the mixer
Tan, do you have paper disposable molds for baking cakes? Otherwise I like them so much, I advertise them so much that I think that their manufacturers already have to pay me extra And they are also disposable!
Giraffe
Sold, but the toad strangles me to buy a uniform at the price of a cake. I have such a good toad, immediately assesses the expediency of buying. I'm trying to put together a company for wholesale, but somehow people are not eager. Wholesale is very good at it. But here's something in them I get a barrel fried against the molds. They are so brown-brown and I don't really like it.
Scarlett
I had a normal barrel in my old gas oven in a new electric one until I tried
Giraffe
Maybe they are different?
kavilter
The jars are washed very well, only first you need to peel off the paper label. I bake small biscuits in them, children really like
IwOlga
Quote: giraffe

Well, this is understandable. And what if someone has already washed, so why bother then? I will find something to occupy
Yeah, I washed from condensed milk and peas. Normal flight
Giraffe
Here is our man! I always say that you can find out everything on our website.
* Anyuta *
And yesterday I put a bucket (water tank) from the Thomas vacuum cleaner into the PMM ... I washed the PMM this bucket .. just ... ...
euge
Here the frequency of visits by members of the forum is more frequent than in another topic, so I will repeat myself here. After a long period of use, it's time to wash the filter press for brewing tea (coffee). Washed off tea plaque. I went to use a new one. A few days later, by chance (fortunately, the walls are glass), I saw that the pressure steel part of the press itself (stainless steel) was almost completely black.I disassembled the press, washed it with a metal washcloth to its original shine, but did not look at the mesh. Yesterday (a week has passed after washing) I see the press glitters. I put on glasses, took out the press and saw: a plaque begins to form from one edge. I disassembled the press, looked at the mesh, and on it there were several rather large black spots. I laundered everything. Now I will only wash children's dishes with my hands and, perhaps, without waiting for drying, rinse the dishes. And what kind of German-Chinese creature settled in the PMM, which can withstand prolonged exposure to hot water (tea brewing), and even multiplies, to boot. Maybe off topic, just a cry from the heart.
Hairpin
I accept the cry from my heart. Or I'm trying ...
Black crap stands out on the internal components of meat grinders, dumplings and something else. That is, an alloy that contains ingredients that, when washing dishes in the PM, emit something wrong. Children's dishes and Chinese garbage have nothing to do with ...
EugeshaYou need to find out exactly which parts provoke the release of black enzymes and not wash them in the PM.
euge
It terrifies me that it multiplies. Maybe it's blue-green? But in PMM it is dark, and they reproduce in the light and withstand high temperatures (up to almost 80 * C). I have Chinese spoons, also stainless steel, but they do not darken and nothing forms on them when dry.
euge
After washing all the stains by hand, nothing still appears, but I don't put it in the PMM anymore.
makabusha
Eugesha, where they wrote that it is certain alloys that give these black spots, therefore it is forbidden to wash a certain list of dishes in the dishwasher .. you need to read Temka from the beginning .. or search through Google .... do not worry so .... nothing is there multiplies .. just the reaction of this spalv began and did not immediately stop .. it's like rust .. it may not disappear right away ...
Olex
And how Luminarc dishes are washed in the PM, in particular, table sets with flowers, it is written in the information that you can wash. But how in reality?
Vafelka
I washed everything very well - now pure white dishes, without a pattern
Scarlett
Quote: Vafelka

I washed everything very well - now pure white dishes, without a pattern
And I had a jug with bright poppies, but it became just white! But since I don't really like him, I was not particularly upset ...
Chamomile
Quote: Vafelka

I washed everything very well - now pure white dishes, without a pattern
I came to the conclusion that a lot depends on the detergent. If the detergent is so-so and does not wash the dishes very well, then the drawing will not be erased; the sludge will not be erased much. And if the detergent is good, then not all drawings can withstand. But I still won't trade my PMM for anything. It is better to eat on white dishes than hand wash.
Scarlett
Quote: Chamomile1

I came to the conclusion that a lot depends on the detergent. If the detergent is so-so and does not wash the dishes very well, then the drawing will not be erased; the sludge will not be erased much. And if the detergent is good, then not all drawings can withstand. But I still won't trade my PMM for anything. It is better to eat on white dishes than hand wash.
It will wear off all the same over time, but certainly without a dishwasher now - no way !!!!!!
marina-mm
Quote: Olex

And how is Luminarc dishes washed in PM, in particular, table sets with flowers? it is written in the information that you can wash. But how in reality?
I have such dishes that wash perfectly, the flowers are in place. Only mine her not every day
Scorpiolka
Dear forum users, hello everyone! I'm new to you, but I hope for a long time! )))) I read all the pages in two days))) I really liked it here!
Recently I finally made repairs in the kitchen and installed this shaitan machine))))
And who uses what means?
Thank you all in advance for your answers!
Omela
Quote: Olex

And how Luminarc dishes are washed in the PM, in particular, table sets with flowers, it is written in the information that you can wash. But how in reality?
I have this .. everything is ok! My gel.

Dishwasher Safe Do's and Don'ts
Scorpiolka
Quote: Song *

Is that all?

All of this topic)))))))))))))
Scorpiolka
and yet: who uses what means?
lega
Quote: Scorpiolka

and yet: who uses what means?

We have a special topic on funds for PMM. Choosing a dishwasher... There you need to read about it, and then ask. Personally, I wash with Finish, sometimes with Somat - it's just easier to buy them and wash normally. I didn't notice any difference.
* Anyuta *
Before buying PMM I had an old frying pan .. it was a pity to throw it away, because it has a very convenient shape, that is, it has a bottom, that the upper edges of the same diameter .. well, I used this frying pan, as a rule, for baking something in the oven, and last year I began to use it in the AG, because the frying pan ideally replaces the tray for collecting fat that is missing in the AG, or as the container itself in which I fry something in the AG ...
So before the purchase of the PMM, the frying pan (from time to time) was ALL covered with a "bloom" (thus - dark brown, which is clearly visible in the photo) .. and after several washes in the PMM, this plaque began to be removed / washed / washed off, or rather " slide "with a thin film .. and with every washing of dishes, the frying pan becomes cleaner and newer (outside) ... I love my PMM ...:
Dishwasher Safe Do's and Don'ts
Witch
The girls understand that everything has already been described, but still, who washed the very bowl of the airfryer? I understand that it is heat-resistant, but I had a chance to break it once and I will say there were problems with buying a new one (((to be honest, mainly because of her and I buy PM) I already ordered !!! on Sunday my Boshechka will come 63th how much effort and whining she stood me ..... and buying a new phone for my husband as a gift ... but these are such trifles) but the fear that something might happen to the bowl of the airfryer does not go away, I cook in it all the time.
Giraffe
nothing will happen to her.
Esfir
Marina, I also constantly wash my bowl in the PM, only I try to put it so that it does not touch or beat against iron objects next to it. Everything is going well!
Witch
thank you very much
Moskvichk @
I also washed. and on the most intensive program, it washes very well. But I didn't wash it every time - every time I just wiped it with a damp sponge. And when she already demanded a thorough cleaning, then straight to the PM. !!!
Olchik86
read, read and did not find anything about pans, saucepans and other containers with a ceramic coating. How do they feel?
I was going to buy a new set anyway, so here I will adjust according to the PMM, but where is all the ceramic stuff?
Vinochek
you cannot wash mugs with an applied image (photo for example) - it is washed off.
gala10
My drawings on ordinary (non-ceramic) plates began to fade. My ceramics in PMM and do not bother on this topic.
Olchik86
nooo, you didn't understand me together :) I'm talking about pans and pots with a ceramic coating.
Dishwasher Safe Do's and Don'ts
gala10
Ahhh, I don’t know, I don’t have any. I use old Soviet cast-iron pans. They can be ... And I don't even want to acquire new ones with all sorts of coatings.
Aenta
Olchik86, It is written on pieces of paper when buying dishes that washing in the PMM is not recommended. But I'm washing. Maybe there is something that is erased, I do not know.
Jefry
In PMM, nothing is "erased". The impact is not mechanical, but chemical. So if there is even a microscopic crack in the coating (enamel, paint, Teflon, ceramics), the metal will "dissolve". With each subsequent wash, this process will go on increasing.
Olchik86
gala10, oh, but cast iron can’t ... not rust? And that is, I have such an attractive frying pan waiting for nadrayka ... so I'm thinking whether to use it or not ...
Aenta, I have a dishwasher on such a piece of paper. I went to the store, felt other ceramic ones - some did not have a badge. It seems to me that manufacturers are simply reinsured. Firstly, everyone has different cars, the means too, and the usual modes too. Someone puts on economy more often than on cars 70. Well, in order to relieve themselves of all obligations, they make a ban.
Jefry, soooooo, so you definitely need to buy silicone spatulas for ceramics. Thank you!

gala10
Quote: Olchik86
oh, but cast iron can't ... don't rust?
Olchik86, It is necessary to wipe dry immediately after washing.I take out almost everything dry from the machine, carefully wipe the pans. If left to dry, rust will definitely go.
Bijou
Quote: Olchik86
It seems to me that manufacturers are simply reinsured.
And sometimes they promise something that is not worth doing, only to lure the buyer. I met a case when the manufacturer (some expensive, by the way) allowed to wash his non-stick frying pan in a dishwasher. But I "forgot" that the bottom of the pan is made of bare, unprotected metal. Of course, after the very first wash, the aluminum alloy turned black and began to get dirty, which never suited the owner. At the time when I read, she was going to return the pan to the store, but I don’t know how it ended.
Regina V.
The body from the meat grinder I have become like this - just a zinc bucket. Stainless steel and aluminum dryer are fine.
Bijou
Regina V., yeah, that's interesting, right? Both there and there aluminum, but the reaction to an alkaline sink is different - my aluminum frying pan and filters from the hood 6 turn gray (dissolve, probably), and the meat grinder or silumin pans often darken.

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