Dishwasher Safe Do's and Don'ts

I was just talking to a friend on the phone, she has the same dishes, but she doesn't have a dishwasher. So she told me that in no case should I wash it in the dishwasher, because now all the products are strong and the dishes will start to darken.

No offense, but did your friend listen to consultants when buying? The steel from which the dishes are made is chemically neutral. This means that you can pour anything into it (well, maybe sulfuric or hydrochloric acid, I would not risk it, though ...), and it does not enter into a reaction, that is, nothing will happen to it. In PMM, you cannot wash aluminum products - it darkens, they do not recommend plates with gilding and other delicate enamels (although the same relative washes perfectly Zepter porcelain with a gold border and it is like new), as well as cutlery with wooden handles - they deteriorate. And everything else - please.

k.alena When I bought the dishes, they warned me not to wash with substances that contain chlorine. Therefore, I always took either their products or the usual amveevsky dish soap. Well, now I won't bother. Temperature ra is also any exhibited? Forgive me for torturing you with questions, but you yourself understand .... the dishes are expensive and I don't want to ruin them. Thank you very much for your answers. It's great that I got to this site.

Let's just say that washing dishes with chlorine did not occur to me, my native product in blue bottles washes perfectly (and not only this dishes), only the skin on my hands corrodes, and after PMM the dishes are only better. For 15 years, only micro-scratches have appeared on the mirror part. I wanted to polish when moving to a new apartment (like to update), they have such a service. But then she changed her mind, because new scratches will appear very quickly, and the service is not cheap.
Do not worry, we have all relatives with this dish and everyone wash it in the PMM. Not one Zepter made of steel and no one has any problems.

k.alena I don't know much about all these detergents and cleaners, I never read their composition, but the consultant said that now all cleaners contain an abrasive agent, which contains this chlorine. It is he who can harm the dishes. Therefore, she recommended buying only their product. All this I speak only from her words, I myself do not understand this. I do not know .... maybe she did the advertisement with her own means. I understood everything, I will not bother. Thank you for your answers, I am very grateful to you. Your advice is very valuable to me. THANK YOU.

It's my pleasure . I myself dearly love this forum for explaining and explaining everything

[TaTa]

People, somebody washed the cast-iron grates from gas. plates? The instructions say - not intended for washing in PMM, but I really want to wash ...

TaTa, I have been periodically washing black grilles with rubber elements in the PMM for 8 years, "pancakes" are also mine. Everything is perfectly washed and nothing comes off. I have a Nardi tempered glass hob.

k.alena I'm also in love with this forum All the girls are great! I am glad to be here! Thanks again!

[Esfir]

Esfir , take it easy and wash your Zepter in the PMM calmly. I've been washing mine too for a year now, the dishes really became like new. All the grease on the rims, on the bottom and on the emblem washed out to zero. I have used the Zepter products for a year at most, and the dishes have already been used for more than 13 years. More soap than necessary. What else would you like to hear from the consultants? It's their job ...
From the lid, the thermostats only began to screw up for a couple of months, and even then not always, more often I was with them. And what will happen to him?
Moreover, my godfather saw what clean pots I had, invited me to use her Tsepret, and for one thing and wash them thoroughly.

I only wash Teflon on a short program. I have a Bosch, there is 35 minutes and a temperature of 45 degrees.
but Ikeev's baking sheet (I had a grate) was washed on this program and the Teflon came off (there the baking sheet was covered like Teflon foil), and Ikeev's pots with Teflon are normally washed

[On which program do you wash crystal and glassware?]

Girls, hello everyone!
I mastered all the pages of the text, but did not find the answer to my question -
On which program do you wash crystal and glassware?
I have a bosch 69t40, I washed the crystal in a quick wash for 30 minutes at 45 degrees ...
But at the same time I had an enamel pan there and it didn't wash as well as I would like .. (maybe I want a lot?). Therefore, I thought that it would be better to wash at a higher temperature, but then will it be possible to put crystal / glass at the same time?

And another question - How many tablets should I put (cleaning agent)? Can I have more than one? or overkill?
How much do you put in? Powder is more effective than tablets?
We have a dishwasher for 2 days, so I'm a strong beginner
Means (cleaning-salt-rinse) bought Finish from Kolgonit ..

I wash almost everything on the maximum program, and glass-crystal too. Only aggressive powders wash off the pattern on the dishes. Now I use only Domol, but it is not always possible to buy it. Powder is more economical than tablets, it has long been calculated.

and three-liter cans how to put? upside down or down?

Of course - upside down! Otherwise, they will be filled with dirty water ...
It is better to wash with powder, tablets - do not push more than one into the compartment,. When I used the pills, I took half a pill on the "half" wash, otherwise it did not dissolve ...

and three-liter cans how to put? upside down or down?

Only upside down !!!!. The machine does not know how to turn cans and pour water out of them ...

for glass-crystal you need a separate, more gentle program. With standard programs, the heating is too strong, there is a risk that the glass will become cloudy - due to temperature changes, tiny cracks appear.

and without pills / powder, did anyone wash the dishes in the dishwasher?

Only upside down !!!!. The machine does not know how to turn cans and pour water out of them ...

I still barely understand how the water behaves there and where (from what places) does it appear there at all)))))

I somehow forgot to put the powder
ok, everything was washed at 70g in 2 hours

I still faintly understand how the water behaves there and where (from what places) does it appear there at all)))))

There are such turntables, with nozzles, below and above. Here is one of them with a pressure and water is supplied .. Without a product, you can probably wash it ... but - the point?
I had a friend - she was "Fairy" pouring, (there is probably no stupidity, there is probably no limit), well, pearl foam from all the cracks ... supposedly dishwasher ...

[Do you first scrub the dishes with a burnt bottom (strongly and not so much) with the handles or immediately put them in the dishwasher?]

There are such turntables, with nozzles, below and above. Here is one of them with a pressure and water is supplied .. Without a product, you can probably wash it ... but - the point?

so today I checked whether it makes sense (I forgot to put it)))).
Everything was washed, only salt and rinse aid were)))
Washed not very dirty dishes in Eco mode.

And I wonder Do you first scrub the dishes with a burnt bottom (strongly and not so much) with the handles or immediately put them in the dishwasher?

[Yummy]

Yummy
Handles, handles, in PMM is not washed

Not, if it has completely burned out, then the PM will not help ... So right away ... In my first dishwasher there was something like this slogan: "Remember, a dishwasher is not a garbage can, take care of it." that is, first we release large food debris, soak it if possible, soak it, well, everything ... Further, the "Cinderella" is already working. And the bottoms of pots and pans, if "fried", so they are washed and washed off gradually.Or, right away, if the dish is not very "yuzan" ...

if it is necessary to wash the polymerized fat (which has not yet burned out, but is no longer washed with hands), I put the dishes in the dishwasher for a standard or long program, take out the dishes when rinsing has finished, but drying has not yet begun, and wipe the soaked fat with a regular sponge.

And I wash the burnt, for example the unsuccessful porridge, in any order: either with the handles first, and then in the PMM, but it is easier first in the car, and then with the handles, without much effort, everything will be removed.

I soak the burnt porridge in the sink and scrape it off with a metal sponge. And then I put it in the PMM. Also, my buckets of mayonnaise and plastic lids for cans.

Girls, can you tell me if you can pour ferry into the compartment for powder, wash teflon pans and a saucepan from multi? or there is no liquid, and feri too?

You need special dishwasher detergents.

Girls, can you tell me if you can pour ferry into the compartment for powder, wash teflon pans and a saucepan from multi? or there is no liquid, and feri too?

What's the point? It's not about liquid, there is a special gel for PMM, but about the fact that Fary will foam a lot. Means for PMM quite cope with fat, and the danger of washing these dishes in PMM IMHO lies not in the influence of the products, but in the fact that the coating can be scratched on the bars of the basket. I'm not sure though. But my frying pans, wanting to exchange them for ceramic ones, and they would have nothing. I wouldn't dare to wash the saucepan from Panas, and mine from Cuckoo too (even the instructions allow it)

[crippled]

In the PMM topic there was a wonderful post of a man that all anti-stick, including Teflon, must be washed with PMM gel, it does not have that abrasive and it does not scratch the coating of pots and pans. And about the ferry, I'm with crippled the consonant will be a lot of foam ... maybe the machine is not good there somehow ...

Thanks for answers. I didn't know that there are such gels for PMM. I just ruined one ceramic frying pan, it began to stick. I bought new ones that can be washed in PMM. Sometimes you really want to wash Teflon. I'll have to see about the gels.

By the way, my husband somehow washed a saucepan from MV Panasonic. As I saw everything, I think, kirdyk ... but no Usyo went fine, didn't even turn white.

I just ruined one ceramic frying pan, it began to stick.

One of the girls said that after the PMM, even baked goods begin to stick to the silicone. Although, IMHO, this is because fat washes out very well. The treatment is very simple - before the first use, grease with oil, on which you usually fry. I drip a little sunflower before the first batch of pancakes, for example. And I spread it with a silicone spatula. Then you can fry without oil.

RybkA, I washed the saucepan 3 or 4 times, everything was fine. Then I began to cook buckwheat and it stuck, now I'm afraid. I bought silicone molds on which it is written that you can wash in PMM, I also think that it is better to lubricate them a little. By the way, the ceramic frying pan did not start sticking the first time. Nobody knows if it is possible to revive her somehow?

RybkA, I washed the saucepan 3 or 4 times, everything was fine. Then I began to cook buckwheat and it stuck, now I'm afraid. I bought silicone molds on which it is written that you can wash in PMM, I also think that it is better to lubricate them a little. By the way, the ceramic frying pan did not start sticking the first time. Nobody knows if it is possible to revive her somehow?

The frying pan began to stick not from the fact that it was washed in the PMM, but from the end of its resource "Restore" you can try it by frying something in oil and not washing it after that in the PMM

The frying pan was practically new, of excellent quality / GreenPan / and began to stick after several washes. We fried it three times and set it aside, we no longer use it.

Who would sum up all this knowledge and experience? Like - it can be washed, it is categorically impossible, but this is - decide for yourself

Why sum it up? The instructions for use say whether you can wash in the PMM or not. On my tefal frying pan it says that you can ...

In the dishwasher, I constantly wash my silicone mitts, silicone spatulas, silicone brushes, ice molds. In silicone bakeware, disappointed - the color of the baking is worse (paler) than in metal. I use silicone molds for pouring jelly with berries, or multi-layered, multi-colored dessert, homemade ice cream, portioned jellied meat, for forming various salads, sometimes soufflé. For baking, my favorites are metal molds.

IMHO it is easier to formulate what is impossible: these are wooden objects - boards, cutlery with wooden handles (which is understandable) and aluminum - it reacts with detergent and darkens (although the girls said that they wash with gels without problems). And everything else can be adjusted for common sense, that is, expensive thin-walled glasses, I would not wash (they are not rigidly fixed and the jets of water can beat them against the bars of the basket or against each other). Something like this. And when buying new dishes, it is indicated on it or not, it is more likely for non-stick coatings of any kind (although I wash my pans in the hope of quickly replacing them with ceramic-covered ones, but at least they have something)

Do not wash dishes with gilding in the PMM, so as not to wash off. Although I am a festive service with gilding there, I rarely get it, so for now everything is in order. Cupronickel - turns black immediately. Some plastic lids from glass salad bowls are warped. And you shouldn't wash all kinds of beautiful Chinese jars with a weak coating. I shoved one of these, so the paint peeled off.

I killed plastic handles from silicone spatulas by washing in the dishwasher - 4 pcs. At first, they were covered with small cracks, and then broke at the base. A crack has formed in Teskom's knife, also on the handle (plastic). Plastic dishes, not intended for washing in PMM, are also in small cracks. Cupronickel does not turn black for me if washed at 55 degrees.

I killed plastic handles from silicone spatulas by washing in the dishwasher - 4 pcs. At first, they were covered with small cracks, and then broke at the base.

My scapula just broke ...

And I thought that I was such a strong woman power is no mind that my plastic is crumbling in my hands!

I also have all the drawings from the glasses in the PM, it's a pity

I never wash silicone mats, molds and ladle spoons in a PPM. The silicone is, as it were, impregnated with a chemical smell and subsequently this smell is transferred to the baked goods. It also wears out faster - the rugs broke immediately after several washes, and when the silicone at the Tupper's spatula cracked, I just sobbed (I loved her very much), now everything is silicone only with handles.

Well, I don’t know the rugs I somehow didn’t think of washing in PMM - it’s not convenient, IMHO, but my spoon (nouname) and scapulae (Teskoma) have been regularly for me for about 3 years. They have not completely changed either the smell, the appearance or the shape ... I try not to wash the molds, because they degrease too much and then baked goods can stick to them. And what tool do you use that

Silicone is, as it were, impregnated with a chemical smell and subsequently this smell is transferred to baked goods

I suppose it remains on the dishes? And then it gets into food

What tool do you use

Somat powder and everything else Calgon.

Girls, thanks for the warning about the short lifespan of the handles on the silicone spatulas. I didn’t know, now I’ll switch to a hand wash.

The silicone is, as it were, impregnated with a chemical smell and subsequently this smell is transferred to the baked goods.

It was like that for me, first when I was hanging stink odor, smell eaten into silicone, horror. I threw it away, in short and normal, nothing smells like chemistry. I used to use all three means - somat, now I switched to the final grinding

Girls, thanks for the warning about the short lifespan of the handles on the silicone spatulas. I didn’t know, now I’ll switch to a hand wash.

Not all handles crack. I have different blades, so only one cracked - it is thick and plastic, like glass, and inside there is a metal joint. Here, apparently, during condensation drying, the temperature difference does not stand. And all the rest of the shoulder blades have live handles, and they have not done anything from the PMM for many years.
This one cracked exactly in the connection.

TA-dah! Those sho branded will be - fine. At one time I had a scapular-silicone hysteria. I bought up everything I saw. A lot, Schaub was enough! My first silicone bergof spatula - generally on a steel handle. And loretti is also steel. Teskoma is plastic, but tenacious. And the Chinese from the metro - that’s all of them and kaput.