Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

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And umishshcha! Mighty! Whole bins!

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With the purchase of HP, the weight will definitely go uphill.

So 104 kg! how much further then?
I try to limit!

[maks592]

maks592,
with HP it is unlikely that it will be possible to limit oneself, this is not a store, it is not clear what.

So 104 kg!

Whoa!

I need a lot of bread for my 194cm!

A very normal weight for a height of 194, my son also weighs 100 kg with a height of 190, looks very normal.

My son is still a little younger! He can do whatever you want! If only I didn't sit in front of the computer for a long time! Everyone on the street! It's good there now!

Sounds (as mentioned above) are not normal at all.
IMHO - take compensation and disassemble and fix it according to the murzilka (there is a link here).
Hours for 2-3 work and will be like new! Try to glue the plastic with dichloethane, return the body in the hooks to its place. Dent on the front - IMHO is not critical (to restore the general geometry of the body just by hand).
At first glance, there is no irreparable damage.
PySy: from where? If it is not far from me or if there is an opportunity to send the stove, I can help.
PyPySy: Lay out, plz., Video of work WITHOUT a bucket (so listen for more information)

Thanks Max for the answer. Unfortunately, I am far from you. Below is a video of work without a bucket in the "Pizza" mode. By the way, if you pay attention to the spinning disc, then the center is, as it were, slightly displaced, so the bucket sways slightly during mixing. Does everyone have it? Or a slight wiggle of the bucket is not allowed and the disc must be perfectly centered? Unfortunately, there is nothing to compare with ...

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A very normal weight for a height of 194, my son also weighs 100 kg with a height of 190, looks very normal.

the weight is good, especially if a person is involved in sports) there is something to gain muscle mass from)

Unfortunately, there is nothing to compare with ...

It works for me in the same way. From the very beginning. Moreover, the stove is already more than 4 years old. I think this sound is normal. The program changes the rhythm of rotation according to the specified cyclograms corresponding to the selected mode. They differ from each other.

I would not bother about centering the bucket either.
In principle, it cannot be symmetrized. The stirrer is not symmetrical, the kneading dough - even more so. Two ribs on the inside of my Panasonic SD-256 bucket are made to pound the dough on them. And so on. Having opened the lid during kneading, you can observe this in all its glory.

[serg1980]

Perfectly not centered, but! the bucket itself knocks in this case!
My drive disk is EXACTLY ALSO sausage! This does not interfere with the stove, but the centering of the bucket along the axis of the drive ... I will not say in general.
serg1980, try forcibly turning the bucket clockwise and holding it in this position while working. Will it knock or not?
It may be that the pins of the bayonet connector (I posted a photo here several pages earlier) are bent, crumpled or something like that. Then it will be possible to either file them down so that they touch the "mother" in the same way, or hammer on it and cook as it is (by the way, under load, the sound may disappear, since the drive itself will press the bucket). Well, at worst (or rather a good one) demand from the sold drive unit! By the way, his number is even in the instructions! and replace it yourself!
It remains only to correct the body. IMHO, it is imperative to insert all the hooks into their places, since thermal insulation, etc., etc.
PySy: By the way, the stove of my friends is knocking too. I didn't listen myself. I'll have to go and have a look.But they bake and that's it! they don't even try to fill their heads with this. I am a meticulous client, and they already feel good and tasty.

Max, the pins are fine, the bucket is new. The knock itself is due to the fact that the hole in the scapula is slightly wider than the axis on which it is put on and it turns out that the scapula walks slightly on the axis, which is why the knocks occur:


I think that under load, when there is flour in the bucket, there will be less noise and knocking. An interesting situation, I watched other people's videos of kneading a bread machine on YouTube, here, for example, the bucket knocks and "walks" almost the same as mine (watch from 5.10):

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And here it is a little quieter and the bucket walks less:

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I downloaded the service manual for the HP, there is a self-test mode (checking sensors, etc.). Tomorrow I will test it and if the sold one agrees to the compensation that suits me, then I will probably keep the HP for myself.

So the scapula MUST be sitting on the axis! This is so that it does not remain in the bread after baking!
when kneading, it turns on an axis and it does not fall off it (engages).
After baking, when the bucket has cooled down, I pour water into it and take off the spatula after 10 minutes, twist it back and forth and take it off!
In general, everything is correct for you!

In the second video, the stove is more years old, so it creaks like mine with a new one, and in the third video the bucket is tighter in the connector. (I now have it after installing the ring). But it still creaks! And before the ring was installed, it knocked like in the first video. So ... the taste and color of the markers are different!

PySy: I recommend starting with the recipe "Milk Bread" in the book. On 1 program. Scales to buy MANDATORY!

PYPYSY: Collect the CASE! And check the temperature maintenance mode! (suddenly the sensor is damaged)

Here you can see how the scapula is placed.
that it does not fit snugly on the shaft

[serg1980]

Obviously serg1980 went headlong into repair!

maks592, I could not agree with the seller and it looks like I will return it. I assembled the case earlier, but everything did not fit perfectly into place, there are small slots. It looks like the bottom tore out during the impact and the inner walls were slightly deformed. Thank you all for your help. Now I know exactly how HP should work, I'll take the same instead.

[serg1980]

serg1980, that's right that you return

Tell me, at what time does the dispenser on SD-2501 work on program 3 (main with raisins) with a medium crust?

Approximately 3.11 - 3.08.

For some reason, they dropped Panasonic - 🔗
It looks like the Redmond marketers are working tirelessly ...

Any test, even a magazine or online edition, is usually customized
Then a single recipe was chosen for all stoves, this already says a lot)

You shouldn't pay attention to it)

Happy Easter everyone!
This time I showed off! I did everything for Easter!

Hello everyone! So I became the owner of HP)))) I decided to make a gift for myself, on the DR))) when I checked it for the first time, it creaked when kneading the dough ... I thought a new one, it will pass ... yesterday I put it on a timer ... woke up from a squeak, as it seemed to me strong (night, silence) in the morning I took her to the store, thought they would change, sent to the service ... I think is it worth going there or is this normal? I understand that it is not normal, I took the same HP from a friend for a while, whether it was necessary to decide or not, so she worked quietly. what to do?

For some reason, they dropped Panasonic - 🔗
It looks like the Redmond marketers are working tirelessly ...

Everyone puffs in the multicooker. This kitchen appliance is made especially for the countries of the former USSR. You will not find a multicooker in stores in Europe, America. As well as mobile phones with 2 SIM-cards - also only for our market. So are DVRs. (but if you search well, then you can find there too) But I digress from the topic, Panasonic is a brand with a capital letter.

[Roksi]

Roksi, maybe the dough is thick? It happens to me if there is not enough liquid.
In general, the stove, like a living organism, never repeats ...

[Roksi]

Roksi, it is better to take it to the service, find out what the malfunction is, maybe something serious. My stove works without squeaks. Good luck!

for some reason, these massive complaints about the creak seem to be someone's dirty campaign ...

[serg1980]

serg1980,
Today I saw that the blade began to walk on the pulley with play. I'm waiting for a squeak soon ... Then change the pulley or blade ...

Is there any play on the pulley or on its shaft?

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[serg1980]

serg1980,
Today I saw that the blade began to walk on the pulley with play. I'm waiting for a squeak soon ... Then change the pulley or blade ...

If there is a backlash on the shaft, then it should be

Thank you) I'm taking it to the service (

for some reason, these massive complaints about the creak seem to be someone's dirty campaign ...

Well, this is you in vain! We're nervous! And actually my hands! And our company is good!

Today I saw that the blade began to walk on the pulley with play. I'm waiting for a squeak soon ... Then change the pulley or blade ...

This is also not clear to me .... on some such pulley a blade? Maybe on the shaft? Then she should hang out. And the pulley is under the bucket. One with vertical protrusions. There is also a pulley inside! and two whole! the drive belt is put on them.
What are you talking about?

well, everything has happened, take into the company of Mrs. Sonya's relatives ...
I bought a 2502 ("European" model), so beautiful, everything sparkles, but great ... But this is the only slight surprise so far :-) Otherwise, everything is fine, nothing creaks, bakes a second bread (with onions). And the first (damn, which is lumpy) has already been eaten ...
I sit, study the instructions (paper with six "European" languages ​​and downloaded Russian) and noticed that each language contains different recipes. It is clear that due to the slight difference in the programs, the models and recipes are different, but for the "general" programs the recipes are different, and in each "set" there are very interesting and with a different emphasis on topics. Russian has a lot of sweet pastries, German has a lot of dark and whole grain bread, English has more recipes for light bread. Somehow I'll sit down and put together at least those recipes that I can read (Russian, German and English). You can at least compile a translated list of names in order to have an idea of ​​where which recipes are hidden, I think this will not only be interesting to me .. Or has someone already done this?

[Franky]

Franky, Welcome!
I don't remember discussing recipes for different firmware versions, so it will be very interesting (especially to such linguistic laymen like me).

Franky, please do your job of reviewing HP recipes sold in different countries! It is very interesting. I want everything and different. I think many will be grateful to you from the bottom of their hearts! THANKS even for wanting to do this!

[maks592]

maks592,
So he called it wrong ... On the shaft. But somehow I didn't pay attention before. And when I looked, I was surprised at the amount of backlash.

I'll make a list of recipes, I just need to free some evening ...

and here is the onion bread - Zwiebelbrot (recipe from the German part of the instructions)

Dear bakers, there is no need to belittle your self-esteem about knowing languages. When baking bread, it is enough to remember just a few words from recipes - and in the most popular languages ​​(I mean English, German, Spanish, French) the words Sugar, Salt, Water, Flour are always recognizable. And the abbreviations for the words "teaspoon" and "tablespoon" are also not complicated. Somewhere you can not be lazy and look into the dictionary, but via the Internet it is even easier

[entin]

But somehow I didn't pay attention before. And when I looked, I was surprised at the amount of backlash.

entin, she moves there by 20-30 degrees (or even more)! so it's okay!

There is an opportunity to buy a new 2501 for 3500. Take? (Now I'm baking in Midea - basically enough ...)

Run! : two-ok: Oh, I would have for that kind of money ... I would not even think for a minute!

And such a low cost would have alerted me

It depends on where to buy, in the store - yes, but on Avito, etc., why not?

[Marina]

Marina, we do not have such prices for the new HP Panasonic even on Avito

well, what prevents you from checking the stove, even if you take it from your hands)

Thanks everyone for the opinions. I bought a stove.
It was bought in Eldorado (not advertising) in November 2014, tried one maximum twice (I think all members of the forum know what a new and working stove looks like) and in February 2015 it was handed over as "not meeting the declared characteristics." Yesterday it was put up for sale with a "big discount for a small defect" counter - while the wording of the malfunction is "No defect found."
The stove, taking into account the bonuses, cost me 3219 rubles. And here is how it works and what it "corresponds" to - now I will try ... In any case, the store gave me a year of warranty.

take to the ranks of BAKERY !!! I bought SD-ZB2512 First attempt- Brewed Bread from recipes for the oven, while it cools

[Gennady]

Gennady, you ought to cover with a towel.

so covered, took just for a photo