Countryman
Maxim, everything is correct. And I take it out too. One to one. And there is no need to constantly guard the stove in order to remove the scapula from the dough. Just time it down once or twice.
strecoza
Thank you all for your advice! I will try further, otherwise I have already refused to bake, in our city the bakery bakes very good tasty bread, and I have never liked mine, then I hear the smell of butter, although the butter is odorless, then it turns out sweet, then dense, and it spoils we do not have time to eat.
marinastom
Irina, and you try to bake the simplest bread strictly according to the instructions, with scales. I am sure everything will go out with a bang. We all started at one time and few learned right away.
As the saying goes, it's not the gods who burn the pots ... Good luck!
PS. I rarely wash my bucket. Only after kneading the dough, and even then not always.
maks592
Quote: Countryman
And there is no need to constantly guard the stove in order to remove the scapula from the dough. Just time it down once or twice.
I'm not the guard! it strecoza! (If I don't confuse anything)
Anusha
Good day to all.
So I became the happy owner of HP 2501. The bread turns out to be very tasty, I didn't even expect to be honest.
I really want to make sweet (rich) bread (you can say a loaf, with raisins, for example). Tell me, which program can you do this?

And I also found a tempting recipe for a roll, but I can't figure out how to do this (first the dough program, and then baking? Which program to bake?).
The recipe is this:
Wheat bread "Poppy curl" (bread maker)
Category: Yeast bread


Ingredients
dough:
Milk 250 ml
Rast. oil 2 tbsp. l. (not measured)
Sugar 2 tbsp. l. (dimensional)
Salt 1 tsp (dimensional)
Powdered milk 1 tbsp. l. with a slide (not measured)
Dry yeast 1.5 tsp (dimensional)
Wheat flour 450-500 g
filling:
Poppy 100 g
Sugar (honey is possible, but less) 150 g
I definitely didn't measure milk, but to cover this sugar-poppy mixture, we boil it down so that it begins to thicken (do not overcook, otherwise it will turn out caramel)
Cooking method
• the dough was taken out, divided into 4 parts, rolled out, smeared with poppy seeds, rolled up 4 rolls and put in a bucket
• I put cranberries on top and smeared with the rest of the poppy

• now the "baking" mode. I left it warm for an hour after baking - so that the crust is browned

marinastom
Quote: Anusha
program dough first, then bake? Which program to bake on?).
Congratulations on your assistant!
She herself answered all the questions. We have baked goods at number 12. Only the time must be set as desired.
k @ wka
Quote: Anusha
And I also found a tempting recipe for a roll, but I can't figure out how to do this (first the dough program, and then baking? Which program to bake?).
Everything is clearly written there. What you cannot understand.
Knead the dough in a bread maker. Prepare the filling. Divide the dough into 4 parts, each part of the dough must be rolled into a thin layer, spread with the fourth part of the poppy filling and rolled up. This makes 4 small rolls. Put these rolls in a bucket of a bread machine: two side by side on the bottom, then two more on top of them. Turn on the oven in baking mode. This is my 11th program. You set the baking time, I think about 45 minutes and the degree of browning of the crust. And you are waiting for the result.
The cut should be very beautiful
Masinen
How I missed my Panaska over the summer !!
I came home and immediately baked bread in it!
Tk is now alone with the children, there is no mother, there is no one to help, then HP is saving me!
I have already figured out the proportions of flour and liquid)
500 grams of flour (any, mix, etc.) and 310 grams of water, 11 grams of fresh yeast)

Airy bread without me !! I put it on a postponement, I calculate them when I come home and so that the bread is already waiting for me)
Krutyak
marinastom
Mash, you feel good, I brought you cool yeast from Bosnia and you don’t worry. And we have nothing but stupid Lux. Well, at the beginning of the year I bought native French ones at Metro Saf. Dry, but they work great!
Katerina2
Masinen, I, too, when I arrived, immediately put the bread! The first time I baked bread on yogurt from the instructions. I liked it - so dense, delicious.
Masinen
Marinayeah yeast is great! I have already regretted 100 times that I did not bring any more ((
Masinen
Catherine, in it any tasty comes out! I already come up with recipes myself, I only observe the ratio of water / flour)))
Masinen
And today I have bread with the addition of sourdough!
Immediately I will make a reservation that the factory leaven, I brought myself from Germany.
I was afraid that it would not work out in HP, but it came out so gorgeous !!!!
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

I love my Panaska !!
Mona1
For several years now I have a Panas 2501. I'm not overjoyed. But there was a need to buy HP for my son. Choice between 2510 and 2511. How do they differ from each other and from my 2501?
I read that in 2511 there is a baking and dough program for low-yeast bread. Is it in 2510?
$ vetLana
Mona1, I have 2511. But the instruction for 11 and 10. There is low-yeast in both. As far as I can tell, at 10 there is no RYE program. If I'm wrong, let the owners of the 2510 correct me.
Mona1
Oh, I need Rye. Thank you. I already realized that 2511 is my improved 2501. I just ordered it on an Internet.
Mona1
I'm picking up my 2511th tomorrow. I will check the completeness. Tell me, in this HP, as in its predecessor 2501, there are also two blades - an ordinary one and a comb?
$ vetLana
Mona1, yes, two shoulder blades.
Mona1
Well, they brought 2511. I checked it, turned it on for a few seconds on the Pelmeni mode (without food), with a spatula, some kind of knocking sounds. Not a creak, but a knock, it feels like a spatula is hitting the bottom of the bucket. I was really scared. Is this how it should be? I have 2501, I went and turned on my own. The paddle spins silently. Completely silent. True, mine is already three years old, but I don't remember such a grunt. Who will calm me down, sho is right. My shoulder blade sits on the pin, not like a glove, but with a slight backlash, and this one rattles on it, dangles harder.
I am worried that all of a sudden repair is needed, and we threw out the packing box, there were reasons for that. The guarantee was also covered, I think, since there is no box.
marinastom
Tan, try to turn the bucket 180. Can you, what will change?
I think the warranty is not on the box, but on the check or type ...
marinastom
Although, if the spatula really knocks, turning the bucket will not help.
Elena Bo
She knocks on dumplings. This is a feature of the batch.
Mona1
marinastom, Marine, that always when you buy equipment, they say to keep the packaging for the entire warranty period. While I checked the ten, I drove the HP without a bucket on the Baking for 15-20 minutes, so that what should be burnt from the shade. The heating element works. I wanted to see if it would knock on the Pizza, but it didn't come out yet, it showed an error on the scoreboard, well, I, you fool, forgot it, it should cool down after baking, it doesn't come out right away. It will cool down, I'll check it.
Elena Bo, Lena, but mine doesn’t knock on Pelmeni, at all .. Maybe it’s gotten used to it, and that’s why. The bread maker is not for me, I will give it to my elder son, daughter-in-law and a vnichichka. She will just be two years old in October, and her son DR, and the wedding anniversary, in general, one shot that is, with a bread maker, I aim at three, so to speak, rabbits.
marinastom
Tanya, try to bake something after all. You will not give to someone else. And running in and checking immediately.
Amasar
Quote: marinastom
I think the warranty is not on the box, but on the check or type ..
According to Russian laws, when returning to the store or handing over to the workshop of a defective product, packaging is not required for warranty. And even if there are consumables that were consumed in the process before the breakdown, they do not need to be returned either.
Now, if you return a work item to the store for the reason “I don’t like it, the style didn’t fit, the color is wrong” - then yes, you must return everything in a salable condition, completely complete including packaging.
But Ukraine may have its own rules.
Wit
Mona1, Tanya, the packaging is stored for 14 days in case you return the goods as unsuitable for any parameters (that is, serviceable)
Under warranty, in the event of a breakdown, even if you require replacement, you cannot ask for packaging from you.
From the OZPP Law
Article 502. Exchange of goods
one.The buyer has the right, within fourteen days from the date of transfer of the non-food product to him, unless a longer period is announced by the seller, to exchange the purchased product at the place of purchase and other places announced by the seller for a similar product of a different size, shape, dimension, style, color or configuration, making the necessary recalculation with the seller in the event of a price difference.
If the seller does not have the goods necessary for exchange, the buyer has the right to return the purchased goods to the seller and receive the money paid for it.
The buyer's demand for an exchange or for the return of the goods is subject to satisfaction if the goods were not in use, their consumer properties were preserved and there is evidence of its purchase from this seller.
In this case, packaging is one of the components of the product - for citizens - storage for 14 days.
So don't worry about the packaging. If you change, you will leave them the packaging of the new bread machine and the whole business. The main thing is that the guarantee remains.
Waist
Mona1, I also have a little backlash, and the fact that the new one is very loose, so maybe they forgot about their new one
Be sure to test the voids between the pin and the spatula will fill with dough and there will be no rumble. And in general, rattling the scapula is quite a trifle, the stove is in good order! Then you can easily wash the bucket, wipe everything and, with peace of mind, give the family a gift for long-term use. Don't worry, it's okay. A great gift!
marinastom
Yes Tanechka will teach any of us how to use the stove. It was she who slightly folded in front of the new model.
Mona1
Yes, the model in general is a copy of mine, only there is also a program for low-yeast bread. Eh, and I miss her so much in my 5201.
Wit, "if you change ...". Nah. We take this sortie from our "island" to the territory where even my son and I had planned the mail for a long time, the path was difficult, dangerous and all that. So, God forbid, what to return, the second time I do not want to rock the boat out of the house. And the two-way road is expensive, about 15 percent of the cost of HP. So it bumps there or grunts. Everything will be fine. Perhaps this is my purchase so happy that at last, at home, well, almost at home.
AlexandraK
Uraaaa !!! I became the proud owner of 2510 !!!! Now I will go to study the instructions and tomorrow I will start trying to make bread !!!!
entin
Hello everybody. I sowed a shovel here. From its price in service centers I sat down ... 1760 !!! Rummaged - dug for 750! Conclusion: it is necessary to be more careful and neat ..!
anelochka
Hello. I am with a banal question: and yet which one is better to buy HP 2501 or 2511? I have a big family (5 men), 1 of them on a gluten-free diet. At night, in snatches, I read the forum. a friend advises 2501. but I understand correctly: model 2511 is more recent (perhaps better?). It differs only in the program for low-yeast bread and that's it?
I would decide tomorrow ... Help who has long been in the subject.
Heather
anelochka, Goodnight! The difference between 2501 and 2511 is in two programs: low-yeast bread and filled bread. Low-yeast program - you need half the yeast; Filled bread is (according to the recipe from the instructions) bread with cheese and bacon, as well as dried tomatoes and rosemary. Determine how necessary these two programs are and go ahead for the purchase! For myself, I decided to prefer a good price for 2501, but Mona1 wrote just above that she really lacks a low-yeast program. In any case, I think you will not regret buying, but men need to be fed! My husband did not expect that the bread maker would turn out to be such a useful acquisition, for a month now I have been enjoying fresh bread and its compliments every day))). And the gluten-free mode is available in both models. Good luck with your choice!
nata_zvezda
Buy 2511. Low-yeast bread is healthier. My neighbor only bakes low-yeast. I want to try it in my 2502, putting on a 5-hour program. Although in the low-yeast mode, the time is indicated - 4.50.
$ vetLana
anelochka, I have 2511. I like low-yeast bread, I used the program with the filling once.
AlexandraK
Please tell me, for the first time I put the bread, the bucket turns to the side during kneading and there is a slight creak from the spatula, I don't know how to download the video correctly
AlexandraK
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anelochka
Girls. thanks for the tips! It's a shame. that Mona1 didn't unsubscribe. how is her shoulder blade: squeaks or everything is OK)) Moreover, she has two such miracles in operation!
Mona1
anelochka, This bread maker is not at my house, but at my daughter-in-law. I just called, she said that she once heard a knock and did not hear it anymore (perhaps it was the start moment when the spatula was pulled on the engine), and she often bakes bread, then buns, even cheesecakes, every other day. it bakes. So it's okay. I would also take it, if now, bread with a small amount of yeast tastes better. Especially if the oven is not on dry ones, which are not very good for health, but on pressed ones, with dough kneading. And then - turn on this mode, it will be kneaded and then a long proofing, normally bread will do.
anelochka
Thank you . what they wrote ... So .... 2511 !!!
Waist
Quote: $ vetLana
I have 2511. I like low-yeast bread
And please write what processes are in that program and how long each one takes. Maybe in ordinary stoves you can get used to low-yeast bake

And probably there are recipes for low-yeast bread in the instructions for this oven, I would also like to take a look

Thank you!
$ vetLana
anelochka, Your video cannot be post The bucket must not turn after installation. There are many videos on youtube in which you can see how to put the bucket. Try to bake the bread several times, maybe the spatula won't creak next times. Do not worry. Everything will be fine.
The first bread is a small miracle! Good luck!
$ vetLana
Waist, the only difference from the main one is the ascent time. Main ascent 1 hour 50 minutes - 2 hours 20 minutes Low yeast rise 2 hours 40 minutes - 2 hours 50 minutes
As a result, the total cooking time for low-yeast is 4 hours 50 minutes - 4 hours 55 minutes.
Waist
Thank you, Svetlana
And yeast? How much yeast is there for a regular 500 g loaf of flour and for a low-yeast one?
marinastom
WaistNatasha, I have adapted like this: I put a little more than half a teaspoon of dry yeast on 400 flour (size M) and disconnect the oven from the mains for half an hour before baking. True, it happens that I turn it on on time and put out the baked goods myself. The bread is excellent!
$ vetLana
Waist, in low-yeast, take half the yeast compared to the usual recipe. If in regular 1 tsp, then take 0.5 tsp, if in the usual 1.5 tsp, then take 3/4 tsp, if in the usual 2 hours. l., then take 1 tsp. For size L 3/4 tsp.
Waist
Marish, Thank you! I just wondered, maybe then bake the usual recipe with reduced yeast in "French" and everything. You haven't tried it, have you?

I love HP for "I laid everything down - pulled out the finished" and there is no hassle

Quote: $ vetLana

Waist, in low-yeast, take half the yeast compared to the usual recipe.
Thank you, everything is clear!
marinastom
Nope, Natasha, I haven't tried it. As I got hooked on the main one, I never get off. Need to try.
Waist
Marishi will try next week and unsubscribe
marinastom
Natasha, me too. If I don't forget, I have to turn on the Frenchman.

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