Svettika
Quote: Umka19
Creamy, but do not share the name of THEM ???
Alevtina, I also join the request! Thank you!
dopleta
Quote: Tillotama
maybe already discussed?
We discussed, discussed. I remember that with Lena Tim, but that's where ..
Tillotama
Creamy, I just can't stop with the questions Why did the L7 buy a new form too narrow?
I can't identify mine at all
length 22 cm, width 10.5 cm
height 12cm
what have I got?
Creamy
Svettika, the link is already in PM. To whom you need to write, I will drop the link for everyone.
Tillotama, I have not baked loaves yet, I recently received a parcel. In general, the assumption that the loaf will blur in the form was surprising, because thousands of bakeries bake millions of loaves in these forms, and why should we not get loaves in these forms? This online store, such a radish, sends orders for amounts. not less than 1000 rubles. The online store positions itself as eco-products, there are all kinds of additives. bran. fructose cookies and others. And initially I only wanted a small toast dish, it costs 332 rubles, I had to buy up to a thousand 4 aluminum forms L17, a loaf dish and a muffin dish. came out at 1,047 rubles for 4 forms. I love my good old L7 shape, and I bought the toast pan because I wanted to have a toast-sized toast. I each make toast in a toaster. On the other hand, with a toast pan, the size and shape itself are best suited for toast. They also have another toast form on sale, longer and more square of ends, it's just that I chose a baby for myself to bake in a Panasonic bread maker, well, there will be another non-standard form.


Posted on Monday 14 Nov 2016 06:29 PM

I got to the bottom of the one who casts toast molds and loafs, it turned out to be Ryaz Tsvetlit. The prices are very tasty, but they are wholesale, because they work for bakeries.
Olga VB
We must ask the Ryazan girls: suddenly there is some kind of retail store at the factory ...
And here is the sale in Moscow from 3 pcs.
рф / #! / top-wrapper

By the way, they write there:
WE CAST ANY PART FROM ALUMINUM AND ALLOYS WITHOUT YOUR EQUIPMENT COSTS
I wonder if they can make a dumplings? there from 500 pcs.
Wit
Quote: Olga VB
CAST ANY PART OF ALUMINUM AND ALLOYS WITHOUT YOUR EQUIPMENT COSTS
In the price of a product, the cost of tooling is one of the main components.
Hitrinka in what? They write the truth. You will be offered a nomenclature of the parts they may take a piss and ask you to choose ANY... And the snap on these the parts are ready long ago and included in their price.
eye
Quote: Olga VB
We must ask the Ryazan girls: what if there is some kind of retail store at the factory ..
Ol, we know: "Ryaztsvetmet" one of the largest lead and lead alloy producers in Russia. For more than 55 years of its history, the Ryaztsvetmet plant has become a real flagship of the domestic metallurgy and has come out on top in the country in terms of the production of lead and alloys based on it.
Olga VB
eye, Tanyusha, is this the production of molds right at this plant or is there some kind of branch? Is there any shop at the factory?
Ryaztsvetlite
Hello, I am the official representative of Ryaztsvetlit LLC, my name is Yuri
And I would like to correct some inaccuracies in the discussion and give answers to all your questions.

1. Our company is called Ryaztsvetlite and has nothing to do with the Ryaztsvetmet plant, except for the external similarity of names and the general direction of metallurgy.

2. Unfortunately, we do not have a store, since we have to make castings on the territory of a closed military enterprise, where entrance and exit are by passes.
Every day at 13 - 14 o'clock in the afternoon, we ship products and take them to the terminals of transport companies.
There are plans to remove and equip a sales office, but at the moment we simply do not have time for this.

3. We plan to cover our molds with a non-stick coating without increasing the price only at the beginning-mid-17 of the year, when there will be a seasonal decline in demand and we will have time to modernize production.

4.
In the price of a product, the cost of tooling is one of the main components.
Hitrinka in what? They write the truth. You will be offered a nomenclature of parts that they can cast and will prompt you to choose ANY one. And the equipment for these parts has long been ready and included in their price.

This is not true. I'll try to tell you, but keep in mind: I'm not a writer)))
Tooling is a mold into which molten aluminum alloy is poured.
In our case, the cost of a mold (tooling), depending on the type of casting (high pressure casting, die casting, low pressure casting, sand molds, etc.) ranges from 1.5 million rubles to 70 thousand. We are ready to invest in the creation of a new mold, firstly, in order to expand our assortment, and secondly, an order of 500 pieces or more partially covers our costs of creating tooling.
At the moment we already have a fairly large assortment of bread and proofing forms, and we are ready to experiment.
New forms are created like this:
We receive a request and offer to send a drawing
After receiving the drawing, we coordinate it with our Ch. engineer, perhaps we make our own changes, we offer our solution.
As a result, we agree on the drawing and send it to the tool makers.
Then we make trial castings, test them, make sure that gases do not escape, the walls of the molds do not swell, the inner surface is not porous and in general it is pleasant to hold the mold in our hands and notify the customer about the delivery date of the entire batch.
As a result, the customer receives his own forms, and we expand the range.
The whole process takes up to 30 days.

5. We are happy to send one piece at a time, but the logistics costs will cover the cost of the forms and we will start working at a loss, so it is beneficial for us to send 10 - 50 pieces (50 pieces is a favorable price) to one address.
Perhaps you could make a joint purchase, it is actually not very expensive (50 pcs (depending on the type) approximately 8000 rubles.)

If you have any questions, I will be glad to answer them.
Regards, Yuri
Ryaztsvetlit LLC.
Svetlana62
Creamy, Alevtinamaybe this is a chance to make our dream come true? What do you think?
Wit
Quote: Ryaztsvetlite
In our case, the cost of a mold (tooling), depending on the type of casting (high pressure casting, die casting, low pressure casting, sand molds, etc.) ranges from 1.5 million rubles to 70 thousand.
Quote: Ryaztsvetlite
5. We are happy to send one piece at a time, but the logistics costs will cover the cost of the forms and we will start working at a loss, so it is beneficial for us to send 10 - 50 pieces (50 pieces is a favorable price) to one address.
Thank you, Yuri, for the detailed answer. I know very well what the tooling for such products is. But you have explained well the motivation for such a step, how to invest in its production yourself. Quite a sensible decision! The trick was in the understatement that you voiced and now no one will look for a trick. Together with the drawing, you must open an order for 500 sets of parts per address or 50 at 10 addresses. The price is really reasonable. Thanks again for the detailed clarifications! Good luck to you!
Creamy
Ryaztsvetlite, it is very pleasant to get acquainted with the manufacturer of wonderful cast bread forms so beloved by all forum users! Two years ago, even in fat times, I tried to contact different foundry companies with a request to consider the issue of making a narrow long dumplings and dumplings for noodle cutters. I even conducted a poll among members of the forum to find out how many people would like to have these dumplings and dumplings. There were slightly more than 300 people interested. Of course, we couldn't afford to pay for the molds with such an amount.As time went on, some members of the forum, including myself, bought a Chinese dumpling machine. And we have a few wishes about cast aluminum molds. There are also some tin molds that I would like to replace with cast aluminum ones.
lega
Quote: Ryaztsvetlite
Hello, I am the official representative of Ryaztsvetlit LLC, my name is Yuri
Hello Yuri! Welcome to our forum! It is very pleasant that the manufacturer himself comes to consumers.
prubul
Girls who will advise a good thing or not ??? So the sides are high and there is a grid for fries and a double boiler. The volume is 4.8 liters, and the price is now not 6 thousand

Cooking utensils (pots, pans, lids) (2)
Alena Besha
Girls, good evening! Can you tell me - does anyone use cookware from Regent Inox, Ferno series? Cast iron red saucepan with a volume of 4.8 liters, quite so nothing in appearance. In one of them on sale today ("Black Friday", even though today is Monday!), This thing costs only 1500 rubles !!! No defects, no markdowns, just such a discount. Well .... I could not resist, I ordered .... What will come - then I will tell you if you are interested, met the expectations or not. Only I don't know how to insert a photo - I copied it from the Internet, but you can't insert it into the gallery? How to proceed?
Sibelis
Fill in the radical and throw the link here
And what kind of THEM? I want enameled cast iron too!
Alena Besha
I ... uh ... I'm probably a bit dull - is the radical a site? Just throw a picture and that's it?
Sibelis
yes, forget it in the search. You upload a photo there, it gives you a link
I don't have Regent inox, but I'm looking closely))
Alena Besha
Now I'll try, but I'll write to them in PM, I don't know how to leave a link correctly so that they don't kick me out with a nasty broom. The kettle is still green
Sibelis
Quote: Alena Besha
The kettle is still green
enameled?
Alena Besha
Aha I can't figure it out - I got the link, but now what? as a beginner, I can not insert a link directly into the text .... And in the gallery how to save it more correctly?


Added on Tuesday 22 Nov 2016 00:32

Sibelis, Natalochka, IM is called "Chiki Riki's Club" (stupid name), like Mamsy, only less promoted itself just registered yesterday. It seems that there is nothing special there - out of interest in advertising on a social network, I followed the link. And I picked myself a pan)))
Wit
Alena Besha, the photo will be inserted after you are assigned the second loaf above your nickname. Although, maybe I'm wrong.
And then you can insert pictures from this bootloader. There were no problems and everything is very simple

🔗


Alena Besha
I managed to upload this photo to the gallery - it now has a watermark of our site. Can I shove her in here now? Teach wisdom, 5 minutes of shame, but how much experience
dopleta
First, never use a radical! Photos from it on the site disappear over time. Secondly, to upload a photo without a gallery (by the way, it is allowed to upload only your own, author's photos into it) we have a special icon "insert image" Cooking utensils (pots, pans, lids) (2)and thirdly - did you want to show it?

Cooking utensils (pots, pans, lids) (2)
Alena Besha
Yes, dopleta, thanks for the science! There are only minor differences - the handle of the lid is more massive and covered with the same red enamel as the entire pan. Your picture is prettier, in my opinion
dopleta
Alyona, it didn't work out - and for the better! For uploading photos from the Internet to the gallery, you may be punished for breaking the rules.
Alena Besha
So maybe - remove him to hell? Only HOW?
dopleta
Only the administration can delete. But, since you have not posted this photo on the forum, then, I think, it's okay.
Alena Besha
Fuh .... carried
Sibelis
Obozhe, how everything has changed! A hundred years ago, I was taught here to use the radical)). I didn't think about pictures from the Internet, I always load my own. In general, I turned out to be a bad advisor. And the saucepan is good!
Another would like to find out how they are with the quality of enamel ...
Alena Besha
So what, not in vain ordered, or is it ...
So I'm worried about the quality of the cast iron and enamel itself .... Well, nothing, the amount is small for testing, I will probably be the first with this pan. There are many similar ones - and Rondell, and Taller, and Le Cruzette, but who knows which one will serve normally? Does the color of the inner coating affect the heating rate or not?
dopleta
Quote: Sibelis

A hundred years ago, I was taught here to use the radical)).
I used it myself a hundred years ago. And then, at the request of the moderators, we had to search for and re-upload the photos to replace the disappeared ones. And there are many such ancient recipes with missing photos on the forum, and all because of him, the radical.

Alena Besha
Thanks a lot for the warning! There are no intentions to distort someone's pictures, but then look like this - I don't want to, I won't!
dopleta
Quote: Alena Besha
I will probably be the first one with this pan
You will not, Alyona... We have owners, and more than one. In the morning they will answer.
Alena Besha
Yes, I will only be glad to this fact!))) They will write an adequate opinion about the vessel - both the pros and cons, so I'm only glad
Sibelis
And now, perhaps, I will also order)). I also liked the baking sheet with the lid.
Alena Besha
I knew that bouts of uncontrolled purchases are contagious and incurable!
Yes, the tray is cool! Which is wooden, right?
Sibelis
no, iron baking sheet with a plastic lid
Alena Besha
And, these are the ones in which you can transfer baked goods? Yes, good stuff. But my cake carrier is idle for now. And here it is really convenient - baked, closed, put on a red cap and went to treat grandmother
Sibelis
I wonder what the diameter of the pan is? Such a cruise is 10 times more expensive))
Alena Besha
Le Cruzette is France, and this Regent Inox is a Russian brand that "mows" Italy and is made in China: hi: Everything is as always, in general))) Although I am confused by 1 nuance - I was rummaging through the net, looking for photos of these pots, and so - the one that Larissa threw off in the subject (with a shiny handle on the lid) - they write that it was made in Italy. I didn't find anything about ours. if the line of dishes is the same - why are the handles different ?! I want shiny too! And also so that 3 kopecks are worth
dopleta
Quote: Sibelis
I wonder what the diameter of the pan is?
Size: 26x12cm

Alena Besha
Larissa, that saucepan, the photo of which you threw off - is written that is already ready for use, calcined in fat. But what about ours, the other? Bald cast iron, or what? Completely without processing, only covered with enamel?
I saw this video, but if it's not difficult - go to the site of this IM, take a look at it - it seems to me that our dark inside
Olga VB
Quote: Alena Besha
copied from the Internet, but you can't paste it into the gallery? How to proceed?
Please, not a radical!
And in general, please, no hosting.
You poke the photo that you found in the tyrnet, right-click, copy the image address and paste using the iconCooking utensils (pots, pans, lids) (2)
FSE!
You can then edit the size or drive it under the spoiler if the photo is too large.
dopleta
Quote: Alena Besha
But what about ours, the other?
Alyonaindeed, they are a little different. In their article, the last digits differ: 0 and 6.
Sibelis
Quote: Alena Besha

But what about ours, the other? Bald cast iron, or what? Completely without processing, only covered with enamel?
And what difference does it make how cast iron is treated to look like enamel? It is important that the enamel does not fly around, and cast iron under it is still impregnated with chemistry, and not edible oil.


Added on Tuesday 22 Nov 2016 07:20

Quote: Alena Besha

Le Cruzette is France, and this Regent Inox is a Russian brand that "mows" Italy and is made in China: hi: Everything is as always, in general))) Although I am confused by 1 nuance - I was rummaging through the net, looking for photos of these pots, and so - the one that Larissa threw off in the subject (with a shiny handle on the lid) - they write that it was made in Italy.
No, well, I know that. And in Italy they have no production, they have nothing to do with Italy at all.


Added on Tuesday 22 Nov 2016 07:21

Quote: Olga VB
You poke the photo that you found in the tyrnet, right-click, copy the image address and paste using the icon
We were explained above that you can publish only author's photos.
dopleta
Natasha, this is in the gallery - copyright! And Olya writes about exactly what I am talking about - about downloading photos from the Internet:
Quote: dopleta
Secondly, to upload a photo without a gallery (by the way, it is allowed to upload only your own, author's photos into it) we have a special icon "insert image"
Sibelis
Quote: dopleta

In their article, the last digits differ: 0 and 6.
The last two numbers in the article are the diameter of the pan. The one you found is 20d, and ours is 26.


Added on Tuesday 22 Nov 2016 08:06

For some reason, our model with a red handle is really only 20 cm in diameter in catalogs I find, and which 26 - everywhere with a shiny
Alena Besha
Girls, thank you very much for helping me figure out the nuances of text design! I will definitely learn! And about hosting - I was just trying to show a thing that hadn't arrived to me yet, and that's the only way I came up with it, but it has already been corrected)))
Sibelis
This saucepan, by the way, weighs 7 kg, sho inspires

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