Aygul
And there is still no price ... and instructions ...

And so, I began to doubt the advisability of a plastic bowl, Ksyusha, well, maybe she is sooooo good quality?
Manna
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Manna, then explain to me, my at 13 watts declared - is it consumed or at the output? And how to measure the output? For heats like, like .... much shorter. Without a thermostat, no matter how.
Usually, the power consumption is always indicated. And to measure the one that remains after the "losses" ... Ksyunya, with us housewives, it will definitely not work Vapshche, I am also surprised by such a large declared power. Maybe it was confused, and it is not 50W, but 15W? Usually all yogurt makers are in the 13-15W range.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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Maybe it was confused, and it is not 50W, but 15W? Usually all yogurt makers are in the 13-15W range.

That would be very cool
Elena Br
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Elena, and the memory of the yogurt maker will be in the event of a power outage, at least a couple of minutes?
I do not know, but one of these days I will definitely check and write.

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Yeah, that means, tapericha ischo yogurt maker * rubbing her hands in anticipation * Elena Br, have you tested it? Or is it still just a factory? I wonder how she is in business ... does it keep the temperature without overheating ... And what does the display show? Remaining time in minutes? Or?
Yes, I used it to prepare yoghurt from Evitalia sourdough culture. It turned out great.
The interval of possible settings for the cooking time is from 1 hour to 12. During cooking, the display is counting down the time in hours.

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Yes, Aygul... I am a little confused by the power of 50 watts. Mine is 13, but it warms me up. And water can stabilize the temperature.
The power of the appliance does not affect food overheating. The more power, the sooner the device will reach the set temperature.

Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: Elena Br

The power of the appliance does not affect food overheating. The more power, the sooner the device will reach the set temperature.

Elena, then a counter question: what is the optimal temperature in it?
Aygul
Apparently, you still have to use a thermostat, because different cultures are fermented in different temperature conditions. For example, I am now doing Vitalakt for a child at a temperature of 32-36 degrees. For yoghurt starter, the optimum temperature is 38-42 degrees.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Aigul, this yogurt maker has a timer. And if there is no memory when disconnected, then the thermostat will not be possible to use, unfortunately.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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I do not know, but one of these days I will definitely check and write.

Elena, but can you then immediately check?
1. Is there an auto shut-off for the yogurt maker? That is, do you set the time on the timer, for example 6 hours, and after that time it turns itself off or does it need to be manually turned off after the signal is given?
2. And in general, is the inclusion of the yogurt maker tied to the timer or not? That is, until you set the time, does it work, does it warm?
If it warms up without setting the time or after the end of the set time, then it will be possible to connect the thermostat too. Until I understand this mechanism. Will explain. I have a mechanical timer in my Smile 3001 yogurt maker. And so he does not influence work in any way. That is, whether I put it on or not, the yogurt maker still works, heats up. I connect a thermostat to it and it does an excellent job of preparing products such as kefir, which needs 33-36 *. Yoghurt needs 38-42 *. It just does not drop the signal, because the timer is constantly turned off. And I just timed the cooking time and turn it off after the right time. But here the timer is electronic, as far as I understand. Will it interfere with connecting the thermostat to the yogurt maker or not?
Elena Br
And for what to use the thermostat?
When Brand 4001 yoghurt maker is connected, 0 lights up on the display. You set the required yoghurt preparation time from 1 hour to 12 hours. You press "start". The cooking process begins. The yoghurt maker gradually brings the temperature to the working value (about 40 degrees), and maintains it for the entire time you set. The display counts down in hours. After the end of the cooking time, the yoghurt maker switches to the "Standby" mode.
Manna
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And for what to use the thermostat?
I understand that Ksyusha suggests that it would be possible to make kefir at lower temperatures ...
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Not all fermented milk products need 40 degrees. For some, this temperature is fatal. For example, sour cream max 36 *, kefir max 36 *, Vitalakt max 36 *, cottage cheese max 38 *. This is normal for yogurt and fermented baked milk up to 42 *. Bifidum max 39 *, well 40 * will not be very critical, more is already bad. This is me about the Lactina starters. I won't lie about others, I don't know.
I use a thermostat in both of my yogurt makers, because one heats up to 55 *, the other a little less. But again, even more than the maximum temperature. And under such conditions, the product turns out to be at least useless, and as a maximum - a harmful product.
Manna
Quote: Elena Br

The power of the appliance does not affect food overheating. The more power, the sooner the device will reach the set temperature.
Et, yes. Power affects the intensity of heating. And overheating of food ... it depends on the thermostat.

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Not all fermented milk products need 40 degrees. For some, this temperature is fatal. For example, sour cream max 36 *, kefir max 36 *, Vitalakt max 36 *, cottage cheese max 38 *. This is normal for yogurt and fermented baked milk up to 42 *. Bifidum max 39 *, well 40 * will not be very critical, more is already bad. This is me about Lactina starters. I won't lie about others, I don't know.
So I want a universal device, so that the temperature itself would regulate (in the sense ... not by myself, but it would be possible to change the cooking program), and not with the help of external thermostats. And sour cream, and kefirchik, and yogurt ...
Elena Br, there is no possibility to create such a device on the basis of this yogurt maker?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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So I want a universal device, so that the temperature itself would regulate (in the sense ... not by myself, but it would be possible to change the cooking program), and not with the help of external thermostats. And sour cream, and kefirchik, and yogurt ...
Elena Br, there is no possibility to create such a device on the basis of this yogurt maker?

Oh, Manna, we still want a lot. Soon Brand will say that it is more expensive to contact us.
Manna
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Oh, Manna, we still want a lot. Soon Brand will say that it is more expensive to contact us.
Can you imagine Ksyunyaif such a device does appear. All your yogurt makers with an external thermostat will immediately go to the trash heap without regrets. Am I right?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Well, maybe not so immediately. Over time, probably yes, everyone will be there.
Luysia
Dreaming is never harmful ... And sometimes it is even useful!
Aygul
Quote: manna

And overheating of food ... it depends on the thermostat.
So I want a universal device so that the temperature itself would regulate (in the sense ... not by myself, but it would be possible to change the cooking program), and not with the help of external thermostats. And sour cream, and kefirchik, and yogurt ...
Elena Br, there is no possibility to create such a device on the basis of this yogurt maker?

I join. This would be the best yogurt maker.
It's just that before the yogurt maker was used only for one thing - to make yogurt. There was no assortment of starter cultures for different fermented milk products. And now such a device is in demand, so that kefir, and sour cream, and cottage cheese, and yogurt, of course, without a thermostat. And we know that it is THIS company that can make such a device. There are multicooker with a manual ADVANCED mode, that is, they will be in December
Elena Br
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Elena, and the memory of the yogurt maker will be in the event of a power outage, at least a couple of minutes?
When the power is turned off, the yogurt maker program is not saved. When power is restored, the device will enter the "Standby" mode.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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When the power is turned off, the yogurt maker program is not saved. When power is restored, the device will enter the "Standby" mode.

Elena, Thank you so much .

Can you clarify? Will the yoghurt maker be in "standby" mode until you set the cooking time in hours and will not start heating? I understand correctly?
Elena Br
That's right, in the "Standby" mode the yogurt maker does not heat up. Only after setting the cooking time and pressing the "Start" button does the heating element turn on.
Manna
With this yogurt maker Ksyunya, external thermostats will not work. This is a YOGURT MIXER, but not a sour cream maker, kefir maker, etc. And as I understand it, from words and from experience Helena Br, th-o-g-u-r-t-n-and-ts-a, perfectly performing its functions, that is, it makes high-quality y-o-g-y-r-t
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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That's right, in the "Standby" mode the yogurt maker does not heat up. Only after setting the cooking time and pressing the "Start" button does the heating element turn on.

Thank you, Elena, once again great. Now everything fell into place
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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With this yogurt maker Ksyunya, external thermostats will not work. This is a YOGURT MIXER, but not a sour cream maker, kefir maker, etc. And as I understand it, from words and from experience Helena Br, th-o-g-u-r-t-n-and-ts-a, perfectly performing its functions, that is, it makes high-quality y-o-g-y-r-t

Well yes, well yes, the name speaks for itself. Well this is what we want all at once.
I, however, had one thought, how to lower the temperature if necessary. But without trying, without turning at least a yogurt maker in my hands, I can't say with certainty that it will work.
Manna
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Well yes, well yes, the name speaks for itself. Well this is what we want all at once.
Yeah, we need a device called sour milk but so far there is no such thing

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True, I had one little thought on how to lower the temperature if necessary.
But what about ... to share your discovery with colleagues?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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Yeah, we need a device called the MILK

I would even add that ALL DILK

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But what about ... to share your discovery with colleagues?

Come on, as the instruction appears, I will read it and if my hypothesis is confirmed, then I will share it with everyone. OK?
Manna
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Come on, as the instruction appears, I will read it and if my hypothesis is confirmed, then I will share it with everyone. OK?
Okay, I'm a consonant
tatjanka
I join those who are waiting!
Manna
Oh, I just saw today that the yogurt maker will be with glass cups
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In November, our company will add another device to its assortment - a yogurt maker. Its set will include glass cups with lids. The same cups can be purchased separately as an additional accessory and can be used to prepare yoghurt in multicooker.
tatjanka
Elena Br, hello, could you whisper when the yogurt maker is expected to appear on the market? : rose: The last hope for Brand yogurt is that it won't overheat ...
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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The yoghurt maker and additional cups will go on sale November 21-22.
Aygul
Price, sister, price?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Aygul, at least try, at least kill - I don't know!
tatjanka
Hurrah! There is still a little more to wait!
Elena Br
We expect the yogurt makers to arrive on November 21-22, and the price will be known only when the goods arrive at the warehouse.

P.S. Preparing yogurt in a bowl. She poured 2 liters of milk and 2 jars of natural yogurt. The result is excellent. Hence the conclusion, even when cooking in a bowl (closer to the heating element), the yogurt maker does not overheat.
Aygul
Quote: Elena Br

the price will be known only when the goods arrive at the warehouse.

P.S. Preparing yogurt in a bowl. She poured 2 liters of milk and 2 jars of natural yogurt. The result is excellent.Hence the conclusion, even when cooking in a bowl (closer to the heating element), the yogurt maker does not overheat.

Of course, price matters.

How long did it take to make yogurt? And the temperature, by chance, was not measured?
Elena Br
I did not measure the temperature. I was cooking from new yogurt, so it was necessary to watch the readiness, but there was no time. Therefore, after 4 hours I turned it off and went to visit. I put it in the refrigerator late in the evening.
tatjanka
tatjanka
Quote: Elena Br


P.S. Preparing yogurt in a bowl. She poured 2 liters of milk and 2 jars of natural yogurt. The result is excellent. Hence the conclusion, even when cooking in a bowl (closer to the heating element), the yogurt maker does not overheat.
As far as I understand, while choosing a yogurt maker, yogurt will turn out even at a higher temperature than it should be. And it will also be delicious, BUT those beneficial bacteria for which we are trying to die. Elena Br, if you have the opportunity to measure T, be so kind as to measure it! The T question is very painful. Thank you!
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
This is what a disassembled yoghurt maker looks like.

Yoghurt maker Brand 4001
Aygul
Oh, the instruction has appeared! I went to study!
Aygul
And she is with a timer Ksyusha, so the thermostat will not be possible, right?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Aygul, yes, the thermostat will not be possible.
Manna
Which instruction is colorful
Xun, can you still edit your first post? Maybe you can insert a reference on the instruction?
Brand. рф / webfiles / Yogurt% 20maker% 20User% 20manual (3) .pdf
And a picture with disassembly
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Nope, I can't, otherwise tama would add the identity.
tatjanka
Outwardly, I really like this yogurt maker and the instructions are of course nicely framed. (y) But, in our time the main advantage is NON-HEATING, let's hope that this device will meet our expectations. Elena Br, please tell me, when the yogurt maker goes on sale, it will also immediately appear at your partners, namely, I'm interested. I'm going to make a purchase of equipment there and everything slows down the appearance of the yogurt maker.
Elena Br
We expect the yogurt makers to arrive on November 21-22. And when they go on sale from our dealers, I don't know.
tatjanka
And here the price became known in 1790 rubles! Shopping day is coming!
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Tatyana, have you decided to buy it?
tatjanka
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Tatyana, have you decided to buy it?
What is not necessary ??? * JOKINGLY * As will be the first review that it does not overheat, so I will buy it right away. I'm afraid to be a first tester. : girl_red: Something Elena Br, is silent. : cray: I asked her to try on T * and silence.
Elena Br
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As far as I understand, while choosing a yogurt maker, yogurt will turn out even at a higher temperature than it should be. And it will also be delicious, BUT those beneficial bacteria for which we are trying to die. Elena Br, if you have the opportunity to measure T, be so kind as to measure it! The T question is very painful. Thank you!
Sorry for the silence. I measured the temperature.
I tested it for 6 hours. She poured 2 liters of milk into a bowl and covered the yogurt maker with a transparent lid. The temperature reached a maximum value of 41 degrees.

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