Manna
Evgeniya, water at normal pressure and at 200 ° C will boil (just much more intense than at 100 ° C)
argo
ahhh if you set the heating temperature to 200g ... then the water will still be 100g ... but it will evaporate (boil) -intensively ..
Manna
Well, don't you understand? The heating temperature of the bottom of the bowl at normal pressure in a pressure cooker is not limited by the boiling point of water, but heating continues to increase the pressure, which does not increase without a weighting agent, therefore heating continues and continues. Therefore, the water boils very strongly. Well what is there to argue. Try just pouring water into the bowl. Switch on Soup / Stew at normal pressure and observe.
Quote: Argo

ahhh if you set the heating temperature to 200g ... then the water will still be 100g ... but it will evaporate (boil) -intensively ..
Yeah
Narkom
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ahhh if you set the heating temperature to 200g ... then the water will still be 100g ... but it will evaporate (boil) -intensively ..
you do not set the temperature,
Manna
Quote: Narkom

you do not set the temperature,
Well, if it was possible to set 200 ° C, then it would be so.
Narkom
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Well, if it was possible to set 200 ° C, then it would be so.
Yes, I know that, I tried all sorts of modes (the smokehouse from the early ones), so the "extinguishing" mode is not used at all, it makes no sense.
euge
At atmospheric pressure (and it is different at different latitudes: higher to the poles and the lowest at the equator), water boils at a temperature of about 100 * C. It was taken as a temperature value of 100 * C to take the boiling point of water at a pressure of 760 mm Hg. Excess heat input does not raise the water temperature, but only increases the amount of steam generated. You can overheat water and steam only by increasing the pressure. This can be done in a closed loop or in a volume of water: steam when heated. This is the excursion into thermal physics.
Manna
Quote: eugeша

Excess heat input <...> only increases the amount of steam released
This is what I say. Therefore, it is better not to cook soup with excess heat. But food, unlike water, can be heated to high temperatures, therefore, when "stewing" in a pressure cooker without a weighting agent, the food will overheat and either stew or fry
dopleta
Not wanting to delve into physics on Sunday morning, I support Eugene, since I was also surprised by the statement that
Quote: manna

As in a slow cooker, you can't cook soup in it
because she did it many times (also in an American) and with great success. One piece of evidence:

Electric smokehouse-pressure cooker Brand 6060
euge
But we cook dry foods with water, while wet ones (meat, fish, fruits, vegetables) contain water. Their temperature will rise after the water has evaporated and they will start to "burn".
Manna
Quote: dopleta

Electric smokehouse-pressure cooker Brand 6060
Dopletochka, did you cook soup without weighting agent? How much did he boil at the same time?
dopleta
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Dopletochka, did you cook soup without weighting agent? How much did he boil at the same time?
manna, I will not argue specifically on this photo (honestly - I don’t remember), but very often I cook soups just without a load, and I can’t say that it boils over and boils too much. It is brewed in a slow cooker, and nothing more.
dopleta
Have you seen today how Vysotskaya smoked ladyfish in a wok? My husband and I broke our heads to identify this mysterious fish! Because it turned out that it was herring, torpan, and tuna in one pour! And she smoked on foil, on a wire rack, under a lid, and instead of wood chips - dry rosemary.
MariV
Lorik... I have not seen, but I smoke my fish in foil and rosemary.
dopleta
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Lorik... I have not seen, but I smoke my fish in foil and rosemary.
Ol, you do not understand - she put foil on the bottom of the wok, on it - a thick layer of dried grass, then installed the grate, laid the fish, covered it with a lid - and on the fire! At the same time, the hood did not turn on, because the sound was recorded by the camera.
Magadanka
tell me, but as a weighting agent (for pressure which) to remove .. otherwise I'm afraid to pull.
Today my workhorse Shinbo refused to work for me (I haven’t figured out why yet) and put the shurpa (made from parts of the elk's head) to be cooked in a smokebox. 35 minutes was enough (although 3-4 hours on a fire) ... I was very pleased with the smokehouse! wonderful shurpa turned out
euge
Purely theoretically: at a power of 1 kW / h, approximately 1.85 liters of water per hour will evaporate from an open vessel. But we close the vessel with a lid, the condensate from which returns back to the vessel. We only lose that amount of water in the form of steam that comes out through a small hole in the lid, and this value depends on the pressure difference on both sides of the lid (the pressure difference is close to zero: we cook without excessive pressure).
Narkom
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tell me, but as a weighting agent (for pressure which) to remove .. otherwise I'm afraid to pull.
Today my workhorse Shinbo refused to work for me (I haven’t figured out why yet) and put the shurpa (made from parts of the elk's head) to be cooked in a smokebox. 35 minutes was enough (although 3-4 hours on a fire) ... I was very pleased with the smokehouse! wonderful shurpa turned out
Just pull up vertically and it will be removed from the latch.
Husky
Yes, you can extinguish without pressure. Just cover with a lid.
Manna
I don’t even know how to explain what I’m trying to say all this time, so I turned to quotes Helena Br

Here Elena I wrote about cooking soup in 6050, but the principle of pressure cookers is similar:
Quote: Elena Br

If you want to cook borscht in the "Soup" mode without pressure, then the contents of the bowl will boil very strongly, steam will come out of the valve opening with a whistle <...>. So I don't recommend preparing first courses without pressure.
Quote: Elena Br

You can cook without pressure without closing the lids. This method of cooking is perfect for stewing meat, but I do not recommend cooking soup like that. It will boil very hard.

And this is already about 6060:
Quote: Elena Br

Heating turns on, and after reaching the working pressure, it turns off.
That is, if the working pressure is not reached, heating continues.
Magadanka
should not. After Shinbo I bought another Orson, and almost a year later I bought a smoke.
argo
But I'm wondering ..... is it possible to cook condensed milk in cans in pressure cookers .. and if suddenly it is possible .. how long will it take?
dopleta
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but I'm wondering ..... is it possible to cook condensed milk in cans in pressure cookers .. and if suddenly it is possible .. how long will it take?
Why not? Cook. About 20 minutes and you're done!
Manna
Only necessarily submerged in the water
dopleta
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Only necessarily submerged in the water
Naturally! As well as without a pressure cooker.
Kalyusya
I cooked it, set it for 12 minutes or 15, I don't remember exactly, but 20 minutes is better, because it turned out to be a bit undercooked. No, it was cooked, of course, but a few more minutes would not hurt. Slightly pale turned out.
smetanina
Hello, dear members of the forum! I urgently need your help, maybe someone came across such a problem (((I did not find one in this thread. Yesterday I bought a smokehouse, there was no limit to it. Yesterday I tested it, I worked on smoking modes like a watch! And today I decided to try soup and fry.Soup cooked perfectly, worked on frying exactly 14 minutes and died (((: cray: does not work, they do not sound, nothing at all. the day after tomorrow, the girl who wrote it out for you will come out, only to her now ((((maybe someone faced such a problem, (I live between two cities, in 2 weeks I will leave for Rostov-on-don)) how long does it take to repair such equipment? could have happened? I washed it and packed it and I sit sobbing
Narkom
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I worked on frying for exactly 14 minutes and died (((: cray: does not work, they do not sound, nothing at all.
that is, the test does not pass when connected to the network?
smetanina
Nothing, silence (when I put it on frying, I thought after another 5 minutes how quickly the body heats up ..... when it turned off by itself, I think maybe some kind of protection against overheating or something else ..... waited while she completely cooled down, plugged in, and she's dead.
argo
but try to plug it into another outlet .. well ... just in case ..
smetanina
Already, I ran through all the sockets, pulled out the cord, reinserted it, is silent (((I was so happy about her, I should have seen it well to wash (((
Manna
smetanina, and you fried without a lid?
smetanina
Yes!!! without a cover, I stood and watched how the process was going on, maybe I read about the warning about how not to do it, I read the forum for 2 months and licked my lips before buying it, I learned everything by heart. fried meat.
argo
and who else had this? don't remember?
Narkom
Quote: Argo

and who else had this? don't remember?
I did not have it, although I used the "frying" mode, for a maximum of 20 minutes.
Manna
I have not seen this on the forum. I think it might be some kind of marriage
smetanina
Yesterday I cooked mackerel in a combined mode, then hot smoked wings, today I fried a fry for soup, cooked soup, then I set to fry the meat, loin on the bone, there were 2 pieces, I calculated that for 20 minutes max frying, 5 minutes on each side to fry. .... I was there, I wanted to take a photo for the forum and for friends, I advertised it all over Rostov, I wanted to turn the last chop, and the smoker just passed out. I try the case, hot, not the same as when smoked, but I have nothing to compare with how it should be ... and that's it, as a user (who dropped a cell phone into the toilet and then immediately turned it on in the past) is already neat - I waited an hour, then plugged it in, there is no signal, nothing, tears of snot, the smoke is super, my pugs (there are 2 of them!) are also sitting upset in my opinion, maybe we all cooked yesterday, we finished eating today.
Anichka
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Hello, dear members of the forum! I urgently need your help, maybe someone came across such a problem (((I did not find one in this thread. Yesterday I bought a smokehouse, there was no limit to it. Yesterday I tried it, I worked on smoking modes like a watch! And today I decided to try soup and fry.Soup cooked perfectly, worked on frying exactly 14 minutes and died (((: cray: does not work, they do not sound, nothing at all. what to do now? the day after tomorrow, the girl who wrote it out for you will come out, only to her now ((((maybe someone faced such a problem, (I live between two cities, in 2 weeks I will leave for Rostov-on-don)) how long does it take to repair such equipment? could have happened? I washed it and packed it and I sit sobbing
According to ZoZPP, within 15 days from the date of purchase, if there are brightly grown faults in a complex technical product (as in this case), the product must be immediately replaced with the same or similar, or the money must be returned. Do not delay or wait for any girl. Do you have any proof of purchase from this company? If they refuse you, ask for a written refusal. It's not bad at home to make a claim for a replacement product or a refund. The text of the claims is easy to find on the Internet. If the store will pick up the goods for repair, write a refusal to repair and an application for a refund.
If you are in Rostov, Brand products are easy to buy in Yulmart. I can give a promo code -3637507 for the second price. The store works around the clock, orders and reservations can be made online. If you have any questions, write. Good luck.
smetanina
All purchase documents are available, today I called the hotline of the technopark, they offer nothing except service, I explain that I will leave here, they say nothing, you can give it back at the service center in Rostov (((((and if the pressure cooker has worked for less than a day, what will happen to her after the repair? so I'm waiting for Brand to answer me.It's a shame, this gift was for me (
Anichka
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All purchase documents are available, today I called the hotline of the technopark, they offer nothing except service, I explain that I will leave here, they say nothing, you can give it back at the service center in Rostov (((((and if the pressure cooker has worked for less than a day, what will happen to her after the repair? so I'm waiting for what Brand will answer me.It's a shame, this was a gift for me
You do not need to communicate by phone, but live. By law, you must make a replacement or refund within 15 days from the date of purchase. And if they refuse, ask for a written refusal and then contact consumer protection. Pay them 300 rubles and you will win the case. They just dynamite you. And do not delay. After 15 days, only repairs.
For the future, buy everything in Yulmart, there are no such problems. I have been buying there since their opening in Rostov. And I am very happy with everything.
Favorite
Quote: smetanina

All purchase documents are available, today I called the hotline of the technopark, they offer nothing except service, I explain that I will leave here, they say nothing, you can give it back at the service center in Rostov (((((and if the pressure cooker has worked for less than a day, what will happen to her after the repair? so I'm waiting for what Brand will answer me.It's a shame, this was a gift for me
Call the Brand company itself, explain the situation, I think they will help you as soon as possible. 8-495-662-59-97
Cvetaal
Good day! It's a week old in my smokehouse, yesterday I noticed that the cup with wood chips has stopped heating up, it's very sad ... This is probably a marriage? Did anyone have this? And I also initially noticed that the red marks do not coincide by 1 cm, it is unrealistic to insert the bowl until the marks completely match, it just does not get up
Luysia
Cvetaal, the red marks may not match a little, one of ours had this. And the rest is repair-replacement.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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And I also initially noticed that the red marks do not coincide by 1 cm, it is unrealistic to insert the bowl until the marks completely match, it just does not get up

Features of my copy of the smokehouse
Cvetaal
Thank you, girls, for the promptness, I followed Ksyushina's link, I have exactly the same label mismatch, now I turned on cold smoking without a lid, the additional NE does not work, unfortunately. We'll have to go to Yegoryevsky passage ...

P. S. just called the store, they promised to exchange or return the money
Denis BR
Quote: Cvetaal

Good day! It's a week old in my smokehouse, yesterday I noticed that the cup with wood chips has stopped heating up, it's very sad ... This is probably a marriage? Did anyone have this? And I also initially noticed that the red marks do not coincide by 1 cm, it is unrealistic to insert the bowl until the marks completely match, it just does not get up
Good day! It will not be possible to establish the exact reason without examination. Bring a smokehouse to us, on Yegoryevsky proezd, our SC specialists will figure out the causes of the malfunction.
Cvetaal
Denis BR, thanks for the quick response, but tomorrow I'm going to Globus in Shchelkovo, they promised me to exchange for another one, it seems they are still on sale there
Denis BR
Quote: Cvetaal

Denis BR, thanks for the quick response, but tomorrow I'm going to the Globe in Shchelkovo, they promised me to exchange for another one, it seems they are still on sale there
Globus has its own warranty for electrical goods for 2 years, so they will exchange goods without any problems.
Cvetaal
Yes, they confirmed it to me
Magadanka
but I had the same problem, though as it turned out later, there was my jamb. I smoked my thighs on a hot, after smoking I open it, and the chips only burned out by half (although the smoke went on at first) .. I'm in a panic .. (well, as usual, we women react right away) and how good it is that our calm, reasonable men. The husband approached, examined everything carefully and said, poured a lot of water ... water + juice that flowed from the thighs covered the bottom of the bowl with chips, water got inside ... yesterday smoked sausages and poured exactly 100 ml of water ... ok .. maybe my lesson will be useful to someone

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