Fields
Girls. I somehow do not understand why the thermostat. She (the yogurt) must do everything herself.
I don't regulate anything.
irysska
Quote: Fields

Girls. I somehow do not understand why the thermostat. She (the yogurt) must do everything herself.
I don't regulate anything.
It would then be necessary to indicate the model of the yogurt maker, which does everything itself.
And why a thermostat - and then what: for proper preparation, different starters need different temperatures, and most yogurt makers conditionally maintain the same temperature within 40C, or even overheat. This is the answer to your question.
Fields
I have a Redmond M5401. There the cups are tight. There is a tight lid on top. How to slip a thermometer and a thermostat there?
irysska
Quote: Fields

I have a Redmond M5401. There the cups are tight. There is a tight lid on top. How to slip a thermometer and a thermostat there?
Does your yogurt maker have a timer? If there is an electronic timer, then the thermostat will not work with such a yogurt maker.
The thermostat has a flat thin wire, it pushes under the lid and lies on the bottom, and jars are placed on top. A thermometer is not needed - the thermostat plays its role.
Fields
There is a timer. From 1 hour to 12. Auto shutdown.
irysska
Then there is no point in buying a thermostat for your yogurt maker - such a tandem will not work.
Fields
So is it bad or what? It seems to work out fine if you don't put the fruit right away.
irysska
Quote: Fields

So is it bad or what? It seems to work out fine if you don't put the fruit right away.
Why bad?
If you are satisfied with the result, then this is very good. Let your yoghurts continue to turn out
Manna
I don't know if this yoghurt maker was already, but here
Steba JM 1, the price is 2700 rubles.
Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2) Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2)
Timer

Light indication of work

LCD display

1.2 l of yogurt

Cable storage compartment

Easy cleaning

8 jars with lid

Book of recipes
Fields
The question is probably for a microbiologist.
What happens in a jar of yogurt during cooking? Are the beneficial bacteria increasing?
Why can you make yogurt from yogurt by adding it to milk? But where they write, up to two times, where yes five.
How is yogurt from yogurt different from yogurt made from sourdough?
Fields
Yes. And how the yogurt determines the pace. mode. I bought different leavens.
For yogurt + 42gr. For kefir + 30g. ?
Mona1
Quote: Fields

Yes. And how the yogurt determines the pace. mode. I bought different leavens.
For yogurt + 42gr. For kefir + 30g. ?
The yoghurt maker does not determine the temperature regime in any way, it just heats it bluntly to a certain temperature. Until what? - And this is how lucky you are with the yogurt maker. Maybe 40, maybe 45 or higher. To make ANY desired temperature, you need to separately buy a thermostat and stick the sensor inside the yogurt maker. But this can only be done in simple yogurt makers, without a timer, that is, in which there is just one On / Off button. Or if it does not overheat much, then put cardboard boxes, silicone rugs, hot coasters and other improvised means.
There is only one yogurt maker VIVO TERMOMASTER, in which you can turn on 3 modes: 30, 36 and 42 degrees. You can also make kefir there. The temperatures in it are adjusted for the VIVO injection. And if the Bulgarian, for example, do Genesis, then they need 38-39 degrees. That is, at 36 it will not ferment there, and at 42 everything will die.

To your previous question: What is the difference between milk, into which leaven was added from milk, into which yogurt was added and other questions from that of your post, then it is more correct to ask a specialist in the branch:

"Ask an expert: everything about homemade fermented milk products" Right here:

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=172987.0
Fields
Just bought the genesis.I put it at night. Well, such a mixture came out like thick sour cream. Sunu thermometer. There is no problem with that. At least up to 250g.
Mona1
Quote: Fields

Just bought the genesis. I put it at night. Well, such a mixture came out like thick sour cream. Sunu thermometer. There is no problem with that. At least up to 250g.
Only not a thermometer, but a thermostat. But maybe you don't need to, if it works out so well. With kefir, however, you need 30 degrees. But maybe this is the case with VIVO. In Bulgarian and Italian, there may be kefirr at 38, fermented, like the rest, you need to read the description of the ferments.
Fields
I can't have a thermostat. Timer. Check the pace. thermometer.
Mona1
Quote: Fields

I can't have a thermostat. Timer. Check the pace. thermometer.
Clear. Just check the temperature of the finished product, not inside the yogurt maker, but inside the jars. And it is possible not in one, but in several. Because the bottom of the yogurt maker is usually heated unevenly. Depends on where the heating element goes underneath. My central jar heats up the most and also the bottom in the yogurt maker from the side from where the power cord comes out is also a degree and a half more heated. This I mean, it may not be necessary to put it under the entire bottom, but only in these places. Or, if you need to put it everywhere, then in such places you will still put a little more cardboard or something else.
Chernichka
Girls, preoccupied with the choice of a yogurt maker, decided to purchase Brand 4001 Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2), but in one store I came across "Saturn Yogurt Maker ST-FP8512" Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2) , it costs a little cheaper (for one set of additional jars), I have no opportunity to touch the Brand 4001 live, do you think they are the same? It seems that we even have Saturn service in our city.
irysska
Chernichka
in appearance, these yogurt makers are absolute twins (as far as I understand, Brand did not develop a new model himself, but modified some successful one - after all, everything comes from China anyway)
Chernichka
Thank you, so we need to take it. I googled it, it is popular in Ukraine, oh, I could endure the night now
irysska
Have you seen Saturn live? Did you like it?
Chernichka
No, I haven't seen it yet, I'm sitting with my child now, so I get most of the information from the Internet, you won't get out of the house once again, here you can buy Brand in the online store, and Saturn seems to be able to be touched offline. Tomorrow I’ll go on exploration.
Aygul
Chernichka, if you decide to buy Saturn, let us know, we are interested We will measure the temperature, check for overheating
Chernichka
I will definitely unsubscribe
chapic
girls tell me where in Ukraine to buy good leavens. who buys where. and then the yogurt maker is coming to me and there is no starter culture yet.
Aygul
Chernichka, in any case, we are waiting for your comments tomorrow after the calculation
irysska
Quote: chapic

girls tell me where in Ukraine to buy good leavens. who buys where. and then the yogurt maker is coming to me and there is no starter culture yet.
and which ones would you like? Genesis, Lactin, Vivo, GoodFood
What city are you from?
irysska
GoodFood starter cultures 🔗 - here you will find info about your city

Vivo starter cultures are in Metro, Silpo, Velmart, look here 🔗

chapic
Quote: irysska

and which ones would you like? Genesis, Lactin, Vivo, GoodFood
What city are you from? I'm from Brovary. and if I knew what I want. I'm not in the subject yet. just starting to study..
I mean manufacturers. Well, for starters, make a simple yogurt. I'm just not in the subject at all. how to do it in the course. I don't know anything about leaven
Chernichka
I returned with a yogurt maker, set the fermentation on the activator (since I really wanted to do something), after 3 hours I will measure the temperature, this yogurt maker looks like in the photo Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2) Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2) Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2), and she also has 2 years of warranty, Brand seems to give 1 year.
Aygul
Chernichka, with the purchase! Does she have so many stickers on the case?
Chernichka
On the one hand, the timer lists its merits, and on the other hand, that there is a 2-year warranty, it also says on the box that it has two modes of operation, although there is not a word in the instructions, I suspect that the first mode is cups, and the second is that with a bowl ...
Aygul
well, yes, probably. that's because the advertising move is if she did cottage cheese, then yes, 2 modes of operation.

How is the process?
Chernichka
It is worth sweating By the way about cottage cheese, they call a bowl - a container for making cottage cheese 3.5 liters.
Manna
Quote: Chernichka

It is worth sweating By the way about cottage cheese, they call a bowl - a container for making cottage cheese 3.5 liters.
Yeah, at what temperature?
Chernichka
The temperature in the glass is 38.8 degrees after 1.5 hours of work, we will wait further
Aygul
Chernichka, You leave the thermometer right in the glass, let it stand, and you can come up and take a look at any time.
Chernichka
Live and learn. Let's go choose an experimental glass, thank you.
Chernichka
Eh, 44 degrees in a glass Next time I'll try not immediately in a yogurt maker, but put glasses in a bowl. No, probably the thermometer is lying, pulled out the yogurt, cooled in the refrigerator, tasted the bottom with my hand - it's not so hot.
chapic
and I bought the leaven. written on the sachet for 1-3 liters of milk. if there are more beneficial bacteria per liter of ton? pour the entire package into 1 liter. or not all?
Lozja
Quote: chapic

and I bought the leaven. written on the sachet for 1-3 liters of milk. if there are more beneficial bacteria per liter of ton? pour the whole package into 1 liter. or not all?

A lot - not a little, there are no extra beneficial bacteria. Pour everything.
Fields
Don't pour it. Disperse throughout the body. You will not catch.
Better save.
Mona1
Quote: irysska

GoodFood starter cultures 🔗 - here you will find info about your city

Vivo starter cultures are in Metro, Silpo, Velmart, look here 🔗
And the Genesis starter cultures are distributed in our city by the Fagotsia pharmacy chain. And GoodFood - Phytopharm pharmacies. Maybe you have those too. Well, or in principle, you can buy in online stores. It's cold now, not like summer. They will not deteriorate in transit.
You score in Google or Yandex. Buy starter culture .... (name) and will give you a bunch of places where you can buy.
Mona1
Every time I feel so sorry for a person who bought a yogurt maker with a timer. Eh, maybe 44 degrees of course - the thermometer is lying, and if not, then it's all sad. But we have been writing about this automation for a long time. And people still bite the buttons and advertisements for the benefits of automatic shutdown timers. Sorry. If everything is overheating, grab it in an armful and return it quickly to the store. And you need to take the cheapest and simplest yogurt maker with one single On / Off button and in which there is no automation and in which, according to the technology, it is not necessary to pour water between the cans during preparation. Then, in case of overheating, you can buy a thermostat and insert it into the yogurt maker. And make ANY temperature required for a particular leaven. And the temperatures are not the same for different leavens. Here is the alignment.

And even if only newbies read a few last pages before buying. After all, the girls here have already written so much about these overheating, thermostats and automation. I just wrote on the previous page that there is no need for automation and why so. And why I write and others write, I do not know. If a page has not passed, and again: bang-bang. I have such a beautiful yogurt maker with a timer. I can even assume that the next page will be: “What do you do?” And what can you do there. There will be no yoghurts, but beautiful bulbs and buttons. And in the summer, when it is hotter in the room, then the same amount of degrees will be added to these 44 in the yogurt maker. Under 50 will be or higher.
I don't want to upset or offend anyone. I always spend a lot of my personal time (not superfluous for me, by the way) on detailed instructions and assistance to all those in need, but it has just boiled over.

That's it, I'm leaving for the monastery! I'm tired of everything. 🔗
Chernichka
No need to go to the monastery. It's just that my yogurt maker is an analogue of Branda 4001, which everyone praises (until I met dissatisfied ones), only another manufacturer, I'll go in for another thermometer today, it seems to me that mine is lying (I just probably want to believe), I understand that there is no perfect yoghurt maker, but I don't like that " samopalschiny ", I need to buy something and then a bunch of bells and whistles to this, I like everything short and clear, the yogurt turned out to be good, 3.5 hours in a yogurt maker, the next morning there is a spoon in it. It tastes like it
Olex
Quote: Chernichka

Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2), but in one store I came across "Saturn Yogurt Maker ST-FP8512" Yoghurt maker - choice, reviews, questions of operation (2) ,
I have Saturn since November. It works fine, I do it for my family right away in a 3-liter basin (we don't have enough glasses).
I didn't measure the temperature, but there was no obvious overheating (unlike Vinis, there was generally creep)
Genesis in glasses turns out better, and in a basin - from bioyogurt - Miracle, (something that is always at hand in a store for sourdough), yes, the stickers can be torn off, but glued to the conscience.
The result is the yoghurt maker.
chapic
Mona1 do not go to the monastery. I bought a clathronic))) and we have gum in our apartment in winter. 25 degrees. and if you start cooking in the kitchen. then all 28
chapic
Quote: Fields

Don't pour it. Disperse throughout the body. You won't catch.
Better save.
did not understand this humor? NOT A GIRL I AM SERIOUSLY J. but if you’re joking, I have so much body that one packet will not be enough. I just don't want to spoil the product.
Lozja
Quote: chapic

did not understand this humor? NOT A GIRL I AM SERIOUSLY J. but if you’re joking, then I have so much body that one packet will not be enough. I just don't want to spoil the product.

Practice has noted that not all starter cultures are successfully halved, so if you don't want to risk it, start with a full sachet for a liter or two of milk (as much as you need). Then, when you figure out how the yogurt should be obtained in the end and how long it takes, you can try to divide the bag in half. But with some leavens, there may be a puncture in this case. So start with a whole bag and look there.

And the message you quoted, I also did not understand that this is humor or it is serious. I definitely wrote seriously.
Mona1
Quote: chapic

Mona1 do not go to the monastery. I bought a clathronic))) and we have gum in our apartment in winter. 25 degrees. and if you start cooking in the kitchen. then all 28
Okay, since this is the case, and since Klatronic, then where am I going, the monastery will have to be canceled.
chapic
Mona1I read the whole topic. conclusions made. asked de bought. I bought a clathronic on the site that gave a link. I do not like different machines. I love to lead the process myself.)) is in the refrigerator good food leaven. yogurt. 🔗 and bought milk. only I'm not doing anything yet. the son fell ill coughing as if sleeping on ice. so I'm not up to yogurt yet. while I'm studying the Old.

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