Lazy
Dry kvass or wort - I think these are also rare elements. Or maybe I will ...
Ana-stasy
They were happy with the bread maker, they baked according to the instructions Basic, Egg, French, Basic with cheese, garlic, salami.
Everything worked out great right away. They looked at the kolobok purely out of interest and to clear their conscience.
The bread tastes excellent, I didn’t like only the egg one (it gives eggs straight), but this is a matter of taste.
Stafa
Kvass concentrate - from the same opera. Now, until the season, in stores there is mainly concentrate, closer to summer there will be all sorts of varieties, from which kvass can be prepared at home. I like dry kvass more. And if not, I add both the concentrate and the wort. Saf - the moment of dry kvass is my favorite, but I buy any that I see, the main thing in the composition is to have malt.
Moskvichk @
Lazy Welcome!!! Well, once you got to our site, save money!)))) Now, in addition to HP, you will want a lot of different cool things !!!
lega
Quote: Lazy

Dry kvass or wort - I think these are also rare elements. Or maybe I will ...

Lazy, If you are on a regional topic, ask where women from Minsk buy ...Minsk like they had no problems with the wort there ...
Lazy
Quote: Moskvichk @

Lazy Welcome!!! Well, once you got to our site, save money!)))) Now, in addition to HP, you will want a lot of different cool things !!!
I collect money from birth, because there are a lot of cool things that make our life easier. In addition to other things, you again need to save up for a bread maker. Something I have not met a single message where it would be said that the bread maker worked for 5-7 years or more (in particular, a bucket). For some models, it was reported that after a year of operation, the bucket needs to be changed.
Elena Bo
Quote: Lazy

Something I have not met a single message where it would be said that the bread maker worked for 5-7 years or more (in particular, a bucket). For some models, it was reported that after a year of operation, the bucket needs to be changed.
You don't read the forum well.
I have HP for 6 years. The bucket is not shabby, only a few scratches under the knife from fillers. I don't even think about changing, because there is no need for this.
Lazy
Well, this is good news. How much you can bake in total, I highly recommend flour and sweet.
Lazy
And I will also tell you that the pizza dough (from the instruction program number 20) turns out super. The ratio of water to flour, perfect. I take out the bucket, turn it upside down, and slowly, slowly, all the dough itself falls out onto the table, the walls are clean, only it clings a little to the shoulder blade.
Taia
Quote: Lazy

Well, this is good news. How much you can bake in total, I highly recommend flour and sweet.

Half of the local members of the forum will envy you now.
Lazy
And there will be nothing from homemade bread, everything is balanced in it and there is nothing harmful. Only benefit from it. All the harm of "store" bread from additives, of which there are a lot of them.
Giraffe
Well, I also came to rejoice for myself in this Temko. Yesterday I bought myself a new SD 2500 WTS bread machine. The old one had retired and was already working only in baking mode. I've made some bread and can already compare, remembering the debate about whether it is necessary to overpay for the brand. But it probably should be in that Temko and write. And in this one I will say about my first surprise. With the same products, the crumb of the bread turned out to be snow-white, as if it was baked from flour not of the 1st grade, but of the highest. I wonder why? The crust is crispy. And it works barely audible, against the previous three models that I used.
Stafa
And in Panasonic, the knife always remains in the bucket and you do not need to pull out wonderful hooks.
With new clothes you!
Giraffe
Yeah, my husband already at home noticed that there is no hook for pulling out the scapula, but I'm smart, well-read, (but I shouldn't die from modesty) explained. Indeed, the scapula slipped through the crust so that only a small hole and a thin cut remained, like a razor.
Taia
I can also compare, I recently acquired Panasonic. The kneading is much more intensive, it works quieter and the bread is always good. I’m not so intently eating the bun, I know that the bread will still be good. And in this bread maker we pay exactly for the quality of the entire unit and then for the brand.
mowgli
Quote: giraffe

Well, I came to rejoice for myself in this Temko. Yesterday I bought myself a new SD 2500 WTS bread machine. The old one had retired and was already working only in baking mode. I've made some bread and can already compare, remembering the debate about whether it is necessary to overpay for the brand. But it probably should be in that Temko and write. And in this I will tell about my first surprise. With the same products, the crumb of bread turned out to be snow-white, as if it was baked from flour, not 1 grade, but the highest. I wonder why? The crust is crispy. And it works barely audible, against the previous three models that I used.
Giraffe, congratulations! I've been using it for half a year! This bread turns out just lovely! My daughter now calls store-bought bread disgusting.
mowgli
Quote: Lazy

I have been collecting money since birth, because there are many cool things that make our life easier. In addition to other things, you again need to save up for a bread maker. Something I have not met a single message where it would be said that the bread maker worked for 5-7 years or more (in particular, a bucket). It was reported about some models that after a year of operation, the bucket needs to be changed.
my former LV stove plowed for 8 years. and never repaired it, but I like bread in Panasonic
Giraffe
Quote: mowgli

Giraffe, congratulations! I've been using it for half a year! This bread turns out just lovely! My daughter now calls store-bought bread disgusting.

Thank you! And we have not been using the store one for four years now, since the purchase of the first bread machine. I campaign so zealously for everyone that I should pay for advertising.
mowgli
while I had an LV, I sometimes bought a store one, but with Panasonic I don't think about it. I like the bread very much
Lazy
Quote: Stafa

And in Panasonic, the knife always remains in the bucket and you don't need to pull out wonderful hooks.
With new clothes you!
And because the shaft, on which the kneading spatula is put on, is very competently made. There is not just a straight cut, but to the top with a thickening and a wedge-shaped gap is obtained between the shaft and the blade. Therefore, when the dough enters the gap during kneading, the spatula is already difficult to remove. Firm.
Nick2011
Good afternoon everyone. Finally it happened, yesterday we bought a bread maker. My wife and I chose between Panasonic and Moulinex, but after reading this thread, we decided to buy a Panasonic. We chose the SD-2500 model and yesterday I brought home a large box and started baking bread that same evening. Oddly enough, everything turned out great the first time, there was a bun and a delicious crust, they did everything according to a recipe from a book. In general, now they have forever abandoned bread in supermarkets and shops, only homemade and healthy bread! Uraaaa!

I have long wanted to learn how to bake cupcakes, advise a simple recipe for a novice baker
Admin
Quote: Nick2011


I have long wanted to learn how to bake cupcakes, advise a simple recipe for a novice baker

Cupcakes in a bread maker (recipe collection) https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=187.0
Tashechka58
Well, I also changed my LG for Panasonic 501. I sit licking my lips like a cat on sour cream - I can't think of where to start
Taia
Keep baking your favorite recipes, I can assure you that Panasonic's bread is even better.
Lazy
Couldn't find a spot where someone was interested in the longitudinal ribs on a Panasonic bucket. Here is copied from Wiki.

The first bread maker was developed in 1987 by a Japanese company Matsushita Electric Industrial Company, Ltd. (the name is currently - Panasonic Corporation).
When developing a bread maker, company employees Matsushita electric faced with such a problem: the test sample of the bread maker could not knead the dough with high quality, due to which the crust of the bread turned out to be dry, and the crumb, on the contrary, was not baked. To solve this problem, an imitation of the technique of manual dough preparation was used with the help of vertical rounded protrusions in a bakery mold, against which the spatula stretches and kneads the dough during the kneading process.
The innovation of the Japanese engineers is that they combined in one device a kneading machine - the kneading mold of which is a bakery mold - a proofer and a bakery oven, and they automated the technological process controlled by the "brains" of electronics.
Bread makers first appeared on the Russian market in 1994.
From November 15 to November 29, 2007, the bread maker was used in a preliminary 14-day experiment to simulate a manned flight to Mars as part of the Mars-500 project. The cosmonauts spread the bread prepared "on Mars" with "condensed milk" and sent them to the earthlings, attaching a note to the parcel with the words: Bread was found on the surface of Mars. We send for examination.

Panasonic is the first!
Tashechka58
Very interesting information, so we drive
sazalexter
Lazy The Panasonic agitator assembly contains at least 4 patented inventions: a knife-shaped agitator, a wedge-shaped shaft and a "blade dangling on the axis", the shape and method of fastening the agitator assembly gland, the design of the agitator assembly cooling.
Waist70
: Friends: Well, I'll tell you this is some kind of obsession !. ... or euphoria! : girl_cleanglasses: in general I have not understood yet ... Exactly last Wednesday I bought PANASONIK 2051: lol: I bake two or three bread a day, including night baking ...: hleb: White: crazy: black cupcakes ... I tried all sorts of additives. ..: girl_dough: I already feel like a baker at a bakery ... And now I pass the bread maker and immediately the thought "WHAT IS THE OVEN STANDING AND DOESN'T WORK ???
23anita
hurray, I bought myself a Panasonic 2500. to replace the ski that has worked for 5 years. tell the owners of Panas - bookmarking of current products starting with dry ones or is it possible with liquid ones?
Tashechka58
I also changed Ski to Panasonic, I make a bookmark - liquid, then dry (like on Ski). Everything works out great
Tashechka58
23anita, wrote the answer, and only saw that you are from Essentuki. I'm from Kislovodsk
Wit
And I am the opposite. And everything works out great too. And even once helped to fix the joint. Falling asleep, everything is dry and already reaching for diluted kefir, I noticed a maliciously grinning stirrer next to the jar Forgot !!! Install !!! : o Well, what? : girl_cray: I remembered myself grinning in the same way, reading the complaints of young bakers that they had forgotten about the stirring blade. I thought that something like that couldn’t happen! And so!!! Sighed, cleared, installed and filled. Everything turned out in the best possible way! And if I first filled it with liquid, it would not be so comfortable to fix the joint.
sazalexter
Quote: 23anita

hurray, I bought myself a Panasonic 2500. to replace the ski that has worked for 5 years. tell the owners of Panas - bookmarking of current products starting with dry ones or is it possible with liquid ones?
You can do it like in Ski, well, it's better like in Panasonic
23anita
Quote: Tashechka58

23anita, wrote the answer, and only saw that you are from Essentuki. I'm from Kislovodsk
thank you habit ... yeah next to it
23anita
Quote: sazalexter

You can do it like in Ski, well, it's better like in Panasonic
I'm used to it like I'll try skiing
Rina
Quote: 23anita

tell the owners of Panas - bookmarking of current products starting with dry ones or is it possible with liquid ones?
since I constantly cook dough, I sometimes changed the order - I poured the yeast with water (to dissolve faster), poured flour on top. So, I can say: it is better to lay according to the instructions - dry products down, liquid on top. Panasonic has a mixing algorithm in the first minutes such that the flour "from above" will dust. And if according to the instructions, the water "from above" works as a kind of filter.

Therefore, if you have to pour flour on top, then I tilt (chatter) the bucket several times so that the water envelops the flour; then the flour does not get dusty during kneading.
Giraffe
Quote: Rina

since I constantly cook dough, sometimes I changed the order - I poured the yeast with water (to dissolve faster), poured flour on top.

at this stage I do the same, only I do not use all the water

Quote: Rina

Therefore, if you have to pour flour on top, then I tilt (chatter) the bucket several times so that the water envelops the flour; then, when kneading, the flour does not dust.

pour the remaining water over the flour
Rina
Quote: giraffe

at this stage I do the same, only I do not use all the water

I use half the flour and half the liquid for the dough (by the way, this allows me to immediately assess the flour / liquid balance).

In principle, in stoves where mixing begins immediately, the order of the laying is not important - all the same, the products begin to mix and it does not matter to them in what order they were put into the mold.

By the way, in the instructions of the unloved Yunold I say that the "reverse" order (similar to the Panasonic one) is recommended if the dough may be too steep.

Many users of other brands use "water from above" loading, in particular, if there is a leak in the buckets (and quite a few people face this after a year or two of operation), especially if the baked goods need to be put on a delay.

Panasonic buckets do not seem to sin with leaks, but all the same ... Probably, it makes sense to master the Panasonic load.

23anita
Quote: Rina

since I constantly cook dough, sometimes I changed the order - I poured the yeast with water (to dissolve faster), poured flour on top. So, I can say: it is better to lay according to the instructions - dry food down, liquid on top. Panasonic has a kneading algorithm in the first minutes such that the flour "from above" will dust. And if according to the instructions, the water "from above" works as a kind of filter.

Therefore, if you have to pour flour on top, then I tilt (chatter) the bucket several times so that the water envelops the flour; then, when kneading, the flour does not dust.
it is clear that I will master it just in the skis there was a bookmark of water then the flour got used to regulate the state of the kolobok ..
Rina
but there is no difference to the kolobok, first water or flour.
If you mean the principle of "flour in water", then this is simply a misunderstood rule - it is easier to add flour into too soft dough (flour into water) than to add water to too steep (water into flour). That is, to control the kolobok, it is better to add some flour and add it slowly.
Waist70
Hurray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviewsHurray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviewsMorning bread, on the timer at night with live yeast, is best baked. During the night, the yeast has time to come up well in a bucket. Especially when pouring lukewarm water and sprinkle with sugar.
Giraffe
I'm on a timer, half the dosage of live yeast. For 650 flour, 6-7 grams of yeast. Otherwise, the loaf kisses the lid.
Waist70
Hurray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviewsHurray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviewsMy next miracle: friends: YES HELLO !!!!! : girl_love: Delicious dry crumb. They ate instead of white: csip: I baked myself uncontrollably on the timer at night on live yeast.
Wit
Persuaded! I bake with live yeast.
Giraffe
Here's what height I got a loaf of 7 grams of raw yeast. The main program, flour 600g, did not put sugar, butter, salt and tsp. water to the kolobok.
Hurray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews Hurray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews

The photo was not very good, there was no light, and it was cloudy outside, but I wanted to show it.
Wit
Quote: giraffe

Here's what height I got a loaf of 7 grams of raw yeast. The main program, flour 600g, did not put sugar, butter, salt and tsp. water to the kolobok.
Why without sugar and butter? I think it tastes better. Or is it some kind of technological trick?
Giraffe
We just like it anyway, it's very tasty. Everyone who comes to visit us is also happy. I can, of course, add oils if desired, but more often I replace some of the water with buttermilk, whey, kefir. If the sour cream has run out, I will rinse the box and put the bread on this water. I made mayonnaise, poured water over the blender's leg over the mold and put some bread. I didn't calculate a little with the amount of porridge, which means that the extra one will go to bread. Not a single bun went to the dogs. And the simplest composition is flour, water, salt, yeast. Maybe my flour is different?
Wit
Great! You are a straight ace in bread baking. And I'm still just learning I will read all your advice with interest and apply in practice
Giraffe
The daily bread for me is room for variety. But I don’t put sugar
Krajukha
Uryayayayaya! My husband ordered HP 2501 I look forward to studying this Temko. In the meantime, I train in the oven, on bread without kneading dough. For my large family it is laborious. Faster if my assistant would come

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