uralochka
Y-yes .. Problem! Have you ever used an automatic twist? I respect them more
Tatianaz
is an automatic machine with two handles and a spring? if yes, then I took it from my mother, tried it on an empty jar - he just crumpled the lid in one place and did not squeeze anything. I tried to squeeze the jars after the semiautomatic devices and still the jars remained leaky, the bubbles passed. probably an unsuccessful copy was caught. I also want to try a "snail", one with an extruded spiral on the surface.
uralochka
It is also necessary to adapt to the machine ... If the lid is unevenly on the can, or it is already uneven on the lid, then yes, it can jam unevenly and in one place ... Good luck!
Kara
I just saw this Temko, read the name and I think, thank God, someone came up with a lip-rolling machine Thanks to this brilliant man who stood guard over the family budget ... But no, another Wishlist

Deffchonki, sorry for offtopic
Tatianaz
in general, I will continue to "help cover manufacturers" until this secret is revealed to me -))
Fantik
And I help manufacturers of caps ... I bought a crimp Mashenka. Damages covers. I will try to buy covers from another manufacturer. Cucumbers in three-liter rolled up more or less (out of 4 cans, only one fiddled with - ruined 1 lid). And the jam in half-liter horror. I removed 4 lids on the first jar, 2 on the second, and to no avail. I took the spiral and closed it. And this one crumpled the lids to one side and made radial dents strong ... (((I don't lose hope, I'll try to disassemble, twist, lubricate ...
Fantik
Ps, I forgot to say that I trained with two cap manufacturers before seaming. It seems that I decided that I had adapted to press correctly, but no ...
Here is such
Seamer - Recommend
Tatianaz
I think I solved my problem)) now there are a lot of non-standard half-liter jars. the diameter of the neck is smaller. therefore, automatic and semi-automatic seamers cannot cope with them. I measured them with a caliper and the smaller ones to the side. good luck Fantik!
Aunt Besya
Girls, what's new in this market? The other day I threw my machine gun into the trash, having previously spoiled the heels of the covers. Now I read it. that it was important to disassemble, clean and lubricate the spring, but it's too late There is a choice ...
ksyusha1997
Girls-Muscovites or the Moscow region, and where can you buy Kremenchug cars from us, so that not a fake? They all praise them very much ... Or maybe another worthwhile option? And then my old one began to junk something, and the season is in full swing ...
Admin

In our city, seamers are sold on the market - different.
And including screw lids for cans.
MomAnya
Quote: The hedgehog's wife

Girls, who are from Ukraine, help me to buy a "Click" key with a bearing (I think it is called MZA) produced by LLC "Prodmash" in Cherkassy. We do not sell such in Russia - I really want to buy myself and my mother. Like this:

Principles of operation of MZA - a machine is applied to the prepared jar with a lid. Rotate the seamer counterclockwise until it clicks (6-7 turns). Remove the seamer from the can. The machine is ready to roll the next can.

I will join the question - I would like to purchase such a machine. Nobody saw them for sale in Russia?
Natulek
🔗 - can be bought here, with delivery to Russia.
Found here: 🔗
alba et atra
Moved completely to screw caps.
Canning immediately became a fun and interesting game.
And I want to try more and more new recipes and do more!
And with a typewriter and seaming it seemed like hard labor!
It took so much strength ...
MomAnya
Elena, I also close the screws, but they seem to be more expensive, and the quality is different, some are screwed loose somehow ... You cannot reuse them.
alba et atra
Quote: MamaAnya

Elena, I also close the screws, but they seem to be more expensive, and the quality is different, some are screwed loose somehow ... You cannot reuse them.

I'm probably lucky.
The caps come across very good and I use them several times.
And they are so elegant, and the eyes and soul rejoices! And it's nice to give jars with such elegant lids!

Seamer - Recommend
MomAnya
alba et atra, Lena, who is the manufacturer of these covers?

I keep most of the blanks in the basement, it's damp, the lids rust ... And I also don't like that they absorb the smell of the product.
shlyk_81
How to close with screw caps? Is there a rule? The first time I hear about this I canned it once three years ago, I didn’t manage to screw it with a machine, and I don’t go back to conservation. And two greenhouses of tomatoes. You have to give a lot.
tat-63
Eugene, sterilize the lids by boiling and twist and then turn upside down
shlyk_81
Tatyana, Thank you! It turns out that there are no "tricks", everything is simple! It is necessary to experiment on cherry tomatoes!
lana light
Quote: MamaAnya

I will join the question - I would like to purchase such a machine. Nobody saw them for sale in Russia?
In appearance, the seaming is very similar to the Kremenchug seaming ... I bought this at the beginning of summer in the regular market for 500 rubles, later I saw it in the household stores. So look around the markets / shops if it's still relevant.
In general, I really liked this seaming, it goes so softly, the covers clearly closes, the quality of materials and workmanship is also very, very
I bought exactly the Kremenchug plant on the advice on this site, thank you very much to the bread makers!
MomAnya
Svetlana, the second year I look everywhere. I have Kremenchug, but I don't see this one anywhere ... Eh, I'll look further. 😔
ksyusha1997
Girls, again I returned to the theme of the rolling machine, my still Soviet one on its last legs. According to the reviews, I wanted Kremenchug, how else would I not run into a fake ... Girls, in your experience, what to buy at the moment? Like Kremenchug, I see there are now both Belarus and Voronezh. Is its spinning principle convenient? And what is the principle of a snail, is it worse? I look forward to any of your advice, because the decision needs to be made urgently, I was left without a typewriter at the moment, only spoils the lids, does not close. And a question for Muscovites, where do you get the seams?
Iris
Oksana, A snail is a car in which the slider moves in a spiral. The closer the slider moves to the center of the lid, the tighter the seaming ... This machine is a snail Seamer - Recommend

I mainly preserve in cans with screw lids, but my mother-in-law only has cans with tin lids and a cloud of all kinds of machines ... so, for me, this snail is the most convenient ... There is also an adjusting screw, they you can correct the twist force ...
Trishka
Girls, and I have a question about opening screw lids, prying with a knife is not an option, the lids deteriorate, and so there is not enough strength, and my husband is afraid to roll the "head" to the bank with the glass, which opener would you advise?
Belka13
KsyushaI usually use a cheap plastic key. If it fails, I take out a drying mat (such foam). But the most convenient, of course, is the Leifheit Comfortline key. But you can hardly find him now.
Borkovna
Trishka, Ksyusha, I just take boiling water from the kettle and pour it over the neck with a lid over the sink (I hold the jar sideways over the sink). Then I give it to my husband, son or open it myself. You can put a towel or napkin on top when opening.
Averin
we also use screw caps
Trishka
Girls, thank you, I'll look for the key, and I'll try it with boiling water!
nila
Quote: ksyusha1997
According to reviews, I wanted Kremenchug, as if not to run into a fake.
Oksana, the key for seaming "Kremenchug" is one of the keys we sell most. It's very easy to use. But you have to be careful when choosing, because it is easy to run into a Chinese counterfeit, even here.
Here's how to determine the Kremenchug key or not.
From the manufacturer's website.
All metal parts of the key are made of coated carbon steel. The handles are made of durable black plastic. On the top handle there is a brand name of the plant. And there is also a protective holographic sticker. On the lower inner part of the key there is also a hammered in the brand name of the factory. This is a good guarantee against counterfeiting. In order to twist the jar, you just need to make about 9 turns of the handle clockwise (all the way), without much effort. Then you need to slightly turn the handle in the opposite direction and that's it, the key can be easily removed from the lid of the can. The lid rolls up evenly, without teeth and waves. The wrench fits well all sko-82 sealing caps.
Specifications:
The body is based on carbon steel (the inscription Kremmash is embossed)
Plastic handle (with high quality silver hologram)
Quote: ksyusha1997
And what is the principle of a snail, is it worse?
I have been using the snail for many years, and I really liked it. But it was still the key snail of those Soviet manufacturers. And here a few years ago my snail began to junk, or rather the tracks have worn out from time to time. And I was going to change it to the Kremenchug key. But while I was getting ready, my husband was at the bazaar and bought a new key himself, also a snail. I almost nailed it, because I tuned in to a completely different key. But there is nothing to do, I bought it so I bought it, started using it. But after several of his attempts, and I basically didn’t roll it up myself, but called him, he of course sweated with that snail. He already tightened it up, changed the lids, and took the old key. Then he could not resist and said to buy a new key. With the Kremenchug key, it is a completely different matter, the jars are rolled up playfully.
Quote: Borkovna
I just take boiling water from the kettle and pour it over the neck with a lid over the sink
Lena, I do that too. But when the can is brought from the basement, especially in winter, it is usually cold. And because of the temperature difference, it can easily burst. I make it easier more often. I pour cold water into a bowl or low saucepan, literally a glass, just to cover the neck. I turn the jar over and put it on the lid in the water. Then I turn on the fire and gradually heat it to a boil. Then it opens very easily with a napkin or towel.
Oktyabrinka
Quote: nila
embossed inscription Kremmash)
and on my typewriter there is an inscription of the type of engraving "kredmash", there is a hologram on the handle, on the box there is also an inscription "kredmash". Is it real or fake then?
Elena Bo
Trishka, I have such

Body made of plastic (polypropylene), inner part of thermoplastic rubber (TPR).
I open and close them. Very comfortable. Does not slip on the lid, grips tightly and opens easily. I unscrew the store cans with my hands, but I can't. Only with this key.
nila
Tatyana, then probably a typo on the site, but I did not notice it copied.
Yes, most likely correct kredmash... I wanted to check on my key, but only in the evening told my husband to take it back to the summer kitchen. He brought out and closed the summer kitchen with a key, and I'm too lazy to jump out into the street and open it.
If necessary, I'll check it tomorrow.
ksyusha1997
Thank you very much girls for your prompt reply !!!! Now I'm going to search!




Elena BoElena, where did you buy such a key?
Oktyabrinka
Nelya, thanks for the answer, just my mother had the key of this plant, for 40 years the cans were closed by us and the neighbors, there was also a factory-made cap straightener, only new rubber bands were changed and the caps were used 2-3 times.
Trishka
Elena Bo, Lena, thank you, but what a brand of key, so universal, for all sizes!
Helen
Trishka, Ksyusha,
Seamer - Recommend
Trishka
Helen, Len, this is an aggregate, straight edged weapons ...
Elena Bo
Girls, I don't remember what brand. It is possible that it is Chinese, since there is nothing on the opener itself. I just saw it and grabbed it, I liked it very much, it is solid and this rubber insert inside gives a snug fit to the lid.
I bought it in a small shop in a shopping complex near the house. I don't think this is a deficit.
Trishka
Boom seek
A.lenka
I am on the market today in m. I bought Kremenchug seaming !!!
I didn't expect to see her here, to be honest.
Original - 800 rubles, Chinese "replica" - 400.
Belka13
A.lenka, Wow! We have 500 kopecks. I bought two at once.




ksyusha1997, the packaging is similar to Multidom, but I could be wrong.
ksyusha1997
Elena, Lenochk, I do not understand, did you buy the original for 800r? Is there a sticker and is embossed on the inside of Kredmash? And where do you live? I am also in the field if I understood correctly that you are in the field. Where would I get the original?
lana light
My old snail died of old age last year ... On the advice of the girls on the forum, I bought Kremenchug. I like it very much, it rolls up perfectly - it goes smoothly, no need to apply force. And high quality! Not a single bank has exploded since last year. Highly recommend! ... I took it on the market, with a holographic sticker, rubles for 500-600
izumka
Quote: The hedgehog's wife

Girls, who are from Ukraine, help me to buy a "Click" key with a bearing (I think it is called MZA) produced by LLC "Prodmash" in Cherkassy. We do not sell such in Russia - I really want to buy myself and my mother. Like this:

Principles of operation of MZA - a machine is applied to the prepared jar with a lid. Rotate the seamer counterclockwise until it clicks (6-7 turns). Remove the seamer from the can. The machine is ready to roll the next can.
Interesting key design! Does anyone have one? How is he doing?
lana light
Quote: izumka
Interesting key design! Does anyone have one? How is he doing?
Outwardly and in description, it is very similar to my Kremenchug. There, too, it is superimposed on top, then rotates 8 times around the can until it stops, is removed and is ready to roll the trace of the can
I wonder what is the fundamental difference between them?
Sibiryachka38
Girls who have cars, please see this from Kremenchug? You don't want to fly.
🔗
lana light
Sibiryachka38, Light, my seam is exactly the same! I'm not exactly sure about the packaging, because I threw it out, but it also seemed to be like that. On the photo I see a sticker with a logo - one of the signs of the original
Sibiryachka38
Thank you very much, so I'm ordering
Malva
Quote: izumka
Interesting key design! Does anyone have one? How is he doing?

He's great at work !!! Mom is very happy! She has weak hands, but no effort is needed here: put it on, twist it until it clicks and that's it!
I already bought it for girls in Russia! And she wrote that they are produced in my city.

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