Mila56
Quote: Svetta
yes, two keys 400 W and 600 W and together 1000 W,
Okay, this gives room for imagination.
Longina
Svetta, Congratulations! We are waiting for photos of culinary masterpieces for inspiration.
Marpl
I also bought a brand new Wonder-M with 2 keys over the weekend. Found on Avito, release 1990, all shiny and heavier than the modern Wonder of Chelyabinsk, there is a double boiler insert. And there are recipes in the book. Here's another brand new one for sale -

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Svetta
In my new assistant, I made a lean biscuit with jam for testing. baking was just a bang! I was worried about how the bottom would be baked, it turned out that I was worried in vain, everything is just wonderful!
Electric frying pan
I am already fantasizing about what kind of ruddy pies I will bake in the country!
Tancha
Svetta, congratulations on your new assistant!
gala10
Svetta, Congratulations! It's great when the right thing ends up in good hands. I am very glad that you immediately developed love and friendship with her.
Mila56
Quote: Svetta
all just great
The baking was good !!!
irman
Svetta, Congratulations! The pastries are excellent
Taia
Congratulations to the girls with new inventions!
A worthwhile thing! So that people do not write, but neither a princess or something else like that is an alternative to the Miracle. (And vice versa). Moreover, you can buy a new one for very inexpensive hands.
Timon
Marpl, Svetta, Girls, congratulations !!! And immediately the question - will the height of the miracle be higher than that of other miracles? Did anyone fry something on the lid itself? And then they offered me for the collection, and also it
Svetta
Timon, the height of what interests, the overall dimensions of the structure or the height of the inner chamber?
I did not fry on the lid until there was this need for an apartment.
Rituslya
Timon, I had such a Miracle. In my copy, nothing could be fried on the lid, but it could be heated.
Plus, what I really didn't like was that all the droplets, smudges, splashes left a significant mark.
Niarma
Timon, overall dimensions 380х360х170 mm
Timon
Girls!! What is the internal height? And about frying in the lid, he asked - is it supposedly positioned like that, and turning it over, they say, can you cook? In general, which of the housewives uses all the buttons? It seems to me that only 600w will be in demand? Or I'm wrong ? Even if I liked all these miracles, consider me abnormal, but I will look, even if in reserve, I thought about it for a long time and decided Thank you all for your understanding
Svetta
Timon, climbed into the closet, took it out and measured it - that for the sake of male curiosity you can't do it!
The depth of the bottom (pans) is 7.5 cm, the depth of the top (pans) is 5.3 cm. That is, the usable height is approx. 13 cm, but this pastry will rest against the lid.
For me, probably, the power of 1000 W and 600 W will be in demand, since baking interests me most of all. I think that pizza should be baked at 1000 W, because it is low, but rolls-pies at 600 W, so that the top does not burn out.
Now I have revised the recipes in the instructions again. There are recipes for different top-bottom use modes, but the cooking power is not indicated anywhere. This is bad.
Girls who use Miracle-M, share your observations on what power is best to do.
Meri klarissa
In a very distant student years in a dormitory, on the cover of a miracle stove, they heated water in a kettle, cooked soup, fried eggs in a thin frying pan, etc., while something was being cooked in the stove. We were very happy. Cooked upstairs in an aluminum saucepan.
Marpl
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Timon
Svetta, , thank you very much! Great height, but not too tall for pizza? In general, it's cool, I, to be honest, I would not document about pizza myself
Svetta
Marina, probably, we have different ovens, because.there is nothing like this in my instructions. Or different manufacturers with different instructions. My stove made in Vladivostok 1989




Timon, I baked pizza every other day for lunch at the dacha in the summer, in the old Miracle I adapted with dancing with tambourines)))
Timon
Marpl, Marina, thank you, there is a whole science of use!




Quote: Svetta
baked pizza every other day for lunch, in the old Miracle
No, well, for me this is already higher mathematics, here it would be to learn pizza in a princess ...
Marpl
Svetlana, this is an instruction for the Miracle-M, produced in Vladivostok, September 1990. And last year I bought a Chudo oven, made in Chelyabinsk. But in it, when baking a charlotte for 5 eggs, my top burns, so I was looking for a similar one, but higher.
Mila56
Quote: Timon
It seems to me that only 600w will be in demand? Or I'm wrong
Timon, my miracle is quite simple, that is, at 500 W (or 600, I don't remember), it does not have two buttons to turn it on. However, earlier I often baked meat with potatoes or portioned chicken in it. The result has always been. And if there is an additional 1000 W power in the Miracle, the meat dishes will be baked even faster. Pizza is certainly good for 1000 watts.
Irgata
Quote: Meri Klarissa
In a very distant student years in a dormitory, on the cover of a miracle stove, they heated water in a kettle, cooked soup, fried eggs in a thin frying pan, etc., while something was being cooked in the stove. We were very pleased. Cooked upstairs in an aluminum saucepan.

Although not a student, already married, she did almost the same. I had a Miracle, production of Kamyshlov

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I rarely baked dough in it, because there was a small stove like Cedar. But yes - I baked thick bread cakes Miracle baked, potatoes with meat, cutlets, stew cabbage, buckwheat porridge - I cooked this Miracle

🔗 How hard the stove was, my first oven was married. She and pies, and porridge, and thick soups, and potatoes with meat and just potatoes. At the frontier post, 80-81, the food was uncomplicated. Meat and vegetables are the most "simple".

Timon
Girls! I didn’t understand something. I thought that for pizza you need the top heating to be as low as possible, but 13 cm in my opinion is too much. Or is the pizza not real? Or am I confused again?
Irinap
Timon, everyone is happy with their own pizza. Someone needs exactly a thin dough, and someone cooks on a thick dough.
Svetta
Timon, why is 13 cm too much? The main thing is that the pizza is baked at the bottom and the cheese melted on top. After all, bake in the oven and do not count these cm to the top.
I'll rummage around and find a photo of a pizza in the Miracle oven.
Timon
Irina, Svetta, Girls, I honestly generally just want to learn how to bake pizza. So far I only bake bread, casseroles, cakes, muffins, etc. But in the topic of pizza makers I read that even the princess did not bake the top for many, and there is only 4 cm?
Svetta
I found an old photo of a pizza in the country.
Electric frying pan
I don't understand Timonwhat's your problem with pizza in Miracle. As for me, this is the most problem-free baking.
Irgata
Quote: Timon
I honestly generally just want to learn how to bake pizza.
Quote: Timon
Or am I confused again
the forum has a topic - Pizza oven = stoves have dome lids, i.e. rather high, analogous to the Pompeian oven, when the heat is evenly and maximally concentrated inside the volume. In the dome ovens, real Italian pizzas are baked at a very high temperature.
If you need a real-real superpizza - go to Pizza oven, study there.
And then you bought up all imaginable electric pans, and pizza, it turns out, is again not how they bake.

Elenka
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But my pizza in Miracle has already shown. The bottom is rosy, the top is also as we want.
Timon
No, girls, you do not understand! On the contrary, I think what for did I buy the princess then, if the pizza could be baked in the miracle girl? This is a more versatile device. And the pizza ovens do not suit the cumbersomeness and there is nothing else to do except pizza.
Elenka
Quote: Timon

there is nothing else to do except pizza.
It seems to me that you are mistaken. I don't have this thing, but our hostesses cook a lot of things in it.
Svetta
Quote: Timon
what for I then ........ bought,
And this is generally a question of questions on this forum! And regardless of the device.
Irgata
Quote: Timon
and there is nothing else to do except pizza.
can. They have upper and lower heating, there are timers, thermostats. Bake whatever you want, a variety of metal forms are full.
Before the pizza makers, the girls just judged, judged how and what, besides pizzas, you can create in these ovens, and CREATED.
True, then pizza makers piled up, and they became a super multifunctional device, reliable, convenient, not cumbersome, baking everything extremely quickly due to thick frying pans that keep heat well even after being turned off.
And pizza makers are also sharpened for baking pizzas.
And Miracle - well, not quite a universal, since there is no bottom heating in it, and they cool down instantly.
A miracle, of course, a miracle, but still a device with heating, bottom + top = it's even more wonderful.





Quote: Svetta
And this is generally a question of questions on this forum! And regardless of the device.
that's right.
Timon
Her, girls bake pizza separately, and pizza maker separately. Don't confuse me. I have a pizza maker princess. And pizza can only bake pizza - it has a stone, pace. dofiga, on top, as a rule, open ten and places in the height of nifiga.




Quote: Elenka
And here is my pizza in Miracle
ElenkaElena, and you please me, as always. Once in our miracle you can have pizza - this is a supper
gala10
Quote: Timon
And the pizza ovens do not suit the cumbersomeness and there is nothing else to do except pizza.
This is why this forum is interesting, that our hostesses adapt any device for making masterpieces that the manufacturers of these devices never even thought of.
Irgata
Quote: Timon
bake pizza separately and pizza maker separately.
complacency?
read Temka about the pizza oven.
Yes, and according to your masculine logic, it means that if the device has heating from all sides, but it is called a pizza oven, then cook there perhaps only pizza.
In any of your freshly bought maker, even in the oven, there is heating up + down, except for Miracle.
Well, it's up to you, judge as you like.
Timon

Quote: Irgata
And according to your masculine logic
IrinaToday, as you can see, you need to make a remark to a man, and I'm under a hot hand ... I think I politely asked the girls about the stoves, and the features are incomprehensible to me. I was not rude to anyone, I was not rude
Crown
Quote: Timon
And pizza can only bake pizza - it has a stone, pace. dofiga, on top, as a rule, open ten and places in height nifiga
After this topic, I now even have an advertisement for pizza ovens on Lost. Before, I didn’t even know what they looked like, it turns out that it’s just an oven divided into two in height, and the height there is much higher than, for example, in my Travola grill, but I make both pizza and flat bread in this grill I bake pies, buns and small muffins, not to mention casseroles, baked fish and gingerbread cookies. I love universal devices, and even not quite universal I try to universalize. I will never buy any pizza maker if it is suitable only and exclusively for pizza.
Miracle - Foreva !!!
Irgata
Quote: Timon
and I'm under the hot hand ...
what are you ...
but if a man repeatedly asks the same thing, then the respondent involuntarily arises bewilderment.




Quote: CroNa
I will never buy any pizza maker if it is suitable only and exclusively for pizza.
Galya, how can a device with heating cook only one meal?
How?
There is heating - the food is being cooked.
If they are fried on irons ...

Timon
IrgataBut my questions have never been addressed to you.
Irgata
Quote: Timon
my questions have never been addressed to you.
for personal answers / questions if PM.
Timon
IrgataMadame Hubby! Or other problems, for this I leave you, I believe that I was survived
Svetta
Marpl, Marina, it's just amazing how different our instructions are. Why I have it so stripped down, one can only guess.

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Well, the recipes go further, I think they are the same.




Timon, nenene, where are you soaped up ??? Nobody goes anywhere.
It's just that Ira has moments of misunderstanding of male logic, well, a person has a fad (sometimes in dumplings, then here ...). She is so alone, and there are many good ones, stay))))
Irgata
Quote: Timon
Irgata, Madame Hubby!
ahaaa ... how much she advised, gave examples. and so ... called
Timon, no one can survive you unless you want to leave yourself. Well this is just a forum.
Marpl
I have such instructions and recipes.Electric frying panElectric frying panElectric frying panElectric frying panElectric frying panElectric frying panElectric frying panElectric frying panElectric frying panElectric frying panElectric frying panElectric frying panElectric frying pan
and here's another cake recipe, but not from my instructionsElectric frying pan took from this announcement

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Svetta
Marplhow fun with recipes! I have repetitive ones, but there are also completely different ones. Now I'm running away on business, later I'll take a picture of mine.
Elenka
Regarding the multifunctionality of the devices.

I have been living here for a long time since 2008,))) so I remember how there were no multicooker, but everyone really wanted to. There were bread makers, so everyone gathered here. I remember how people in a bread maker even cooked chicken / meat.
I intended, but never tried it.)))
By the way, I have these multi-cookers - 3 operating, one has died almost (there is no point in repairing), 2 pressure cookers and all kinds of equipment of a small half-dozen.


Hedgehog
Hello everybody)
I got the idea to buy a Miracle stove, because as a child, my mother constantly baked biscuit cakes in it and always praised her very much. But she does not remember whether she had a MIRACLE or a Wonder Woman, and I, because of my smallness at that time, do not remember either (
Please help me to decide) I flipped through all 108 pages of this thread and so I realized that the Miracle-M is better than just a Miracle. Did I understand correctly? ))) Now I choose just from these two. I want exactly a new one and it is of Soviet production, I found, in principle, both options:
Miracle of '89 release, direct USSR (but I don't know the city of production yet)
Wonder Woman 1990-1991, Vladivostok. Weren't they produced there, and not at some Oryol / Ural factories of any products there? Made according to TU 83 years old, written

I found one photo where the bowl (the saucepan itself) with straight walls, that is, the diameter at the bottom and at the top is the same, there is no decrease in diameter closer to the top. Maybe this is just the Miracle, and not -M?

Thanks in advance!




Another question about the steamer insert. In different ads (stoves of different years, probably), these inserts are different. Has anyone used this mode and how does it work ...
I can't figure out how to add a photo here ...
Niarma
Hedgehog, Ksyusha, take better the Miracle-M, it has 3 power modes - 400, 600 and 1000W (usually 600 and 1000 are used, but 600 for baking). Although Miracle is also 600 or 650, I don't remember.

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