Timon
Elenka, Elena! Now you can buy a miracle like yours, with a window. Can you share how you still use it, are you disappointed? The pastry is browned enough (top, bottom). Have you ever tried baking bread? Maybe someone else from the owners of miracles with a window will answer, I will be very grateful
Meri klarissa
Quote: Timon
Maybe someone else from the owners of miracles with a window will answer
I have a Miracle without a window and with a window, but Czech remodeling. This is the best of everything that is in my kitchen, and I have everything that was and is in stores from kitchen appliances and other things.
Elenka
Timon
I use it and am very happy with it. I bought it for baking in the summer, but I still use it now. I don't want to warm up an entire oven for one pie.
Blush very well top and bottom. The pizza is excellent, I put small muffins in tins in the pan and bake, pies, yeast buns.
The only drawback is the outdated design. The wire connection sometimes comes off, it is necessary to check and the clamps on the glass sometimes disappear.
But it works great. I thought about buying a spare coil just in case.)
The bread will bake fine, but I didn't bake it. We must try to bake bread like lavash, there is a recipe, we have been baking for a long time in a slow cooker and an oven.
gawala
Quote: Timon
Maybe someone else from the owners of miracles with a window will answer, I will be very grateful
With a window. German GDR. It is indispensable for baking in summer. You can do anything in it, meat, hams, vegetable stews, rolls, charlottes ..
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Katko
gawala, East Germany, kaneshna, cool
Otpad buns
gawala
Quote: Katko
GDR, kaneshna, cool
Well, where am I going to find something else here.?
By the way, my mother's house is exactly the same and German. Probably at one time they were sold. As long as I can remember, we had and still have them.
Timon
Thank you girls for your quick response. Just doubts gnaw - 500w seems a little small. She's not that small. But our window is everything, I wanted it for bread.
gawala
Quote: Timon
Just doubts gnaw - 500w seems a little small.
I have the same German 500W. Rolls in the photo. The bread will just be low. My rolls are baked for 45 minutes. It takes longer than in the oven.
Mila56
Quote: Timon
Just doubts gnaw - 500w seems a little small.
Do not doubt the power at all. Well, fill the yeast dough with no more than half of the pan's volume, because it will increase in volume. I once got a seal on the lid
Svetta
People, but tell me such a thing. Here I have this e / frying pan, I bought it back in the USSR for 7r.50kop. I have this model

And I am suffering with her all this time. It does not bake from the bottom and badly from the sides, and the top even fries and bakes. Of course, I adapted - I put on the lowest heat on the hotplate, so that it was heated from below, I cover the top of the rolls in a frying pan with foil from burning. But I don't want to dance with tambourines. Advise who is in the subject, how to fix it, because for others it bakes normally, too, with the heating elements in the lid.





Timon
Quote: Meri Klarissa
Czech remosca
Meri klarissaI really want a repair, there is an opportunity - (friends work abroad), to bring it, but without a window. I think how convenient it is? I wanted for baking, but I can't imagine without a window Tell me, why is it better than our miracles?
gawala
Quote: Svetta
also with ten
Are there really heating elements, not Kemachichi minibuses?




Quote: Timon
Tell me, why is it better than our miracles?
I think that nothing ..
Svetta
Quote: gawala

Are there really heating elements, not Kemachichi minibuses?
Gal, yes, beads, they rumble a little more.
gawala
Quote: Svetta
yes, minibuses, they rumble a little more.
So you need to open the lid and interrupt these beads.maybe something fell off from time to time, maybe something else ..
zoyaaa
Sveta, when she bakes badly, she stands on a grid stand?
Svetta
Timon, I have a Mulinex bread maker with a window. So this window fogs up during baking and nothing is visible, in addition, heat is lost through it and the top of my baked goods in HP is pale. I suspect that this could be in an electric oven. Better let the users tell.
Timon
Quote: Mila56
Do not doubt the power at all
Mila56, Lyudmila! There were different reviews, some of them were not baked at all, to understand what this is connected with. I do not mind it and modify it, if possible. May increase power slightly
zoyaaa
I have a small repair, I like a miracle without a window more, with a window the volume is larger, the rolls are baked for a very long time.
Svetta
Quote: zoyaaa

Sveta, when she bakes badly, she stands on a grid stand?
Zoya, yes, standing on the bars. I just put it on the surface, it's still white from below.
zoyaaa
Well, if it's on the grid, then, probably, there is some problem with the heating elements.
Timon
Quote: Svetta
the window fogs up during baking and you can't see anything
Svetta, Sveta! I would look out the window more during the proofing. As for heat loss, I'm afraid you are right. And this is a tragedy
Mila56
Quote: gawala
I think that nothing ..
Yes, practically nothing, everything is baked perfectly. But ours, especially those with ceramic beads, are flimsy. I have one. The first one is already 30 years old, it still works, I repaired it more than once, the end of the spiral burns out there and the contact disappears. Therefore, I opened the lid and secured the end of the spiral. Therefore, the lower part of the lid was not tightly fixed to the upper one, and it falls out. There are small clamps, but the metal is aluminum, soft. Now I'll look for a photo.
Svetta
Quote: zoyaaa

Well, if on the grid, then, probably, there are some problems with the heating elements.
I just do not understand why the lid with heating fries strongly, but the bottom and sides are not baked. What's the trick here?
zoyaaa
During baking, I have to cover the window with foil, otherwise the baking in this apparatus loses all meaning.
Maybe I have such a copy, my husband took it apart, said everything is in order with the heating elements.




Sveta, I have three models, the one you have, bakes more evenly and faster than anything, including the bottom and sides.
gawala
Quote: Timon
As for heat loss, I'm afraid you are right. And this is a tragedy
Timon, I don’t know, I’m doing great, no losses. Proofing and look in the window, nothing fogs up during baking, it's also not a problem to look .. Well, in the end, it was not fools who designed it, if they have been working faithfully for 30 years.
Timon
zoyaaa, Zoya! And how do you compare with a miracle?
Svetta
Quote: zoyaaa
During baking, I have to cover the window with foil, otherwise the baking in this apparatus loses all meaning.
I do the same in the bread maker.
Tancha
Quote: Svetta
I am suffering with her all this time.
Sveta, is your frying pan made of aluminum?
Svetta
Quote: zoyaaa
Sveta, I have three models, the one you have, bakes more evenly and faster than anything, including the bottom and sides.
That's why I want to get to the bottom of the reason. The device is initially good!




Quote: Tancha

Sveta, is your frying pan made of aluminum?
Yes
gawala
Quote: Tancha
is your frying pan made of aluminum?
Tatyan, and they are all made of aluminum. They have not been made of stainless steel before. I have, my mother, Ust-Kamenogorsk, that is also from alusmishka. Now I do not know, maybe progress has stepped far ahead and is made of stainless steel, although I strongly doubt it.
zoyaaa
Timon, wrote above
Quote: zoyaaa
I have a small repair, I like a miracle without a window more, with a window the volume is larger, the rolls are baked for a very long time.





Light, and the top cover fits snugly, maybe somewhere heat loss occurs.
Timon
Quote: Svetta
get to the bottom of the cause
Sveta, maybe not a snug fit of the lid to the saucepan?
Tancha
Sveta has her shiny, so I thought.
Timon
Quote: zoyaaa
I have a small remodeling, I like a miracle without a window more, with a window the volume is larger, the rolls are baked for a very long time
zoyaaa, Aha, I understood - out of three, a miracle without a window is better
Svetta
Quote: Timon

Sveta, maybe not a snug fit of the lid to the saucepan?
No, it lies as standard, nothing is warped, no external heat leaks.
Mila56
Here is such a spiral inside with ceramic bead insulators, and the end of the spiral burns out.
Electric frying pan
The top and bottom of the lid are not very well fixed to each other, or rather, with the help of small metal pieces. Yes, until you put the spiral into the groove, and she tries to escape from there.
Electric frying pan
A spiral with insulating beads should be laid in this groove around the circumference, and at the same time it is not fixed.
Electric frying pan
As for me, this is not so constructive, well, or my hands are growing from the wrong place.
Svetta
Ludmila, here you, as a specialist, help me figure out my stove, why doesn't it bake from below?
Timon
Quote: Mila56
it's not very constructive
Is everything ingenious simple? Your hands are all right. Soviet optimization
Mila56
Quote: Timon
I do not mind it and modify it, if possible. May increase power slightly
So I finished my first one like that. She always baked perfectly the first time. But after 8-10 years the spiral burned out, the lid did not warm up. I opened it, and there it can be seen that the spiral has burnt out, and a couple of ceramic insulators-beads split. I removed the fragments, fixed the spiral and set off. Another 5 years. Then the situation was repeated and the same repairs. Only with this repair, the length of the spiral is gradually shortened, and as a result, baked goods are baked a little faster, by 5 minutes, which is not critical.
Timon
Svetta, And you did not disassemble yours?
Svetta
No, they never took it apart. I used it in the 80-90s and got it in 2015, as they began to live in the summer in the country.
Timon
Quote: Mila56
I removed the fragments, fixed the spiral and set off
Mila56, Bravo, Lyudmila! All by yourself I would like to know that in the miracle with the window there is also a spiral
gawala
Quote: Timon
To know that in the miracle with the window there is also a spiral
Shake the lid. The ceramic spirals will rattle anyway. If TeNy, then there will be silence .. If the frying pan is old and Soviet, then only a ceramic spiral. The heating elements were already later. in the 90s. In Ust-Kamenogorsk there is a ten.
Timon
Quote: Svetta
No, never taken apart
Sveta, you have to understand what's under the cover. You can't figure it out. Are there no men on the horizon? Would you spin it up, look, make your life easier?
Mila56
Quote: zoyaaa
During baking, I have to cover the window with foil, otherwise the baking in this apparatus loses all meaning.
Is this about a bread maker? I think there is not enough power. The bread makers work at intervals, that is, they pick up the temperature and turn off, the temperature has dropped, they turn on. This microcircuit probably does not work well, let's say it turns on later and therefore, as a result, does not get the temperature. I read for a long time that such a problem is solved by unscrewing (slightly relaxing) the screw inside the chamber of the bread machine. Which screw I don't remember, probably the one with which the ten is fixed, although not. It seems there was a photo. I read about it here on the forum, but I don't remember which topic. It is necessary to search.
Irgata
Quote: Timon
You can't figure it out.
fast above did not suit you? very reliable.
My Miracle, the end of the 80s, has a circular spiral in the lid, in a frying pan of the early 90s there is ten
There can be no other there, pans of an iron type of heating.
I know firsthand, because "posthumously" the pans were taken apart.
Our same pizza makers have the same ten.
Svetta
Timon, there is a husband, but he is not on these matters. It happens. My dad was a jack of all trades, but he passed away 4 months. back. I wish I had remembered this frying pan earlier and slipped it to him, he would have figured it out.
Timon
Quote: Irgata
the post above did not suit you
Irina, you still need to see, as for me. In any case, something is wrong, since it does not bake as intended. And Lyudmila is right, if the spiral, then it can be shortened, if the heating element - maybe a weak set, maybe poorly fixed.
Mila56
Quote: Svetta
Gal, yes, beads, they rumble a little more.
Yes, they are always heard when the lid is turned over (when turning the lid with shadows, there is no sound, silence). And for myself, after the second repair of the inside of the lid, I concluded that I will no longer turn the lid over. After all, the spiral with ceramic beads always moves a little, contacts the lid. And these ceramic insulators are thin and quite fragile. If you take out this one insulator for the sake of experiment and hit it quietly with a hammer, it will crack just once. And we turn over the lid during its
operation many times, so the beads are pricked on the sly. I haven't turned the lid over for a long time.
gawala
Quote: Timon
if ten - maybe a weak one
Well, this is unlikely ..

Quote: Timon
In any case, something is wrong, since it does not bake as intended.
And how was it conceived?

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