Venera007
I don’t know how on the kitfort’s website (I didn’t see the information on the fly, and got into the instructions), but their website also states in the instructions for the Kitfort KT-1909 model that the pallets are plastic, and on wb I came across a description, also plastic.




In general, the model is worthy for those who do not bother with the issue of non-plastic pallets
OgneLo
Quote: Venera007
on the kitfort website
the phone number is indicated, that is, you can call and clarify. The instruction may contain outdated information.
but, judging by the photos in the reviews on Ozone, the pallets in Kitfort KT-1909 were plastic (now it is listed there as "the product is over"), and the photos in the reviews on the Ya-market are similar.
Irgata
Quote: OgneLo
if instead of mesh shelves you put solid blank partitions, then it is pointless to expect something other than disappointment.
it's not that the trays are not mesh, but that there is very little space between them for air movement, or practically none at all, and after all, the trays are not empty, something lies on them, so damp and cold at first.
And now, when we dry the marshmallow, we also cover the trays with baking paper, Teflon rugs (mine), silicones, plastic solid trays.
But once the air is blowing along trays, then lattice is not required, anyway, the tray is closed with drying products.

Even vertical dryers have solid trays Dryer-dehydrator Rommelsbacher DA 750 - it would seem that it dries. There seems to be a gap between the trays.
Opening the door = decreasing the temperature inside the dryer, increasing the drying time, do I need it? When you need to dry just different things in 2 months for the whole year, all dryers are in operation.

If you manage to dry on cohesive trays, then and.
OgneLo
Quote: Irsha
when we dry the marshmallow
I wrote about drying / drying thin slices, the same was discussed in the instructions
Quote: Irsha
something lies on them, so wet and cold at first
Travola and others like it, very quickly reach the operating temperature, with the door ajar, it happens even faster (which is facilitated by the door design), or you can first turn on the dryer, and only then fill it with food, and then adjust the drying time.

I also turn on the fan hanging next to the door jamb to speed up the movement of air past the dryer + I open the vents in opposite ends of the apartment, since we have poor ventilation, high temperature and high humidity.
Irgata
Quote: OgneLo
I wrote about drying / drying thin slices, the same was discussed in the instructions
Duc not Belevskaya marshmallow is put in a rather thin layer. This is so, by the way

Okay - everyone dries as best they can. And he wants to.

OgneLo
Irsha, in winter, I dried persimmons on 6 trays one under the other and dried chickens on 3 trays to discharge. Chickens were on the bottom and persimmons on top, everything was cooked quickly and well. The trays were filled to the maximum, but without mutual contact of the pieces.
Mrs. Addams
Girls, thanks to everyone who mentioned using the ironing net - Irsha exactly wrote
I tried it in my Marta Very convenient, I have to move what is land, change places in trays - the mesh helps a lot - it turns out quickly and nothing wakes up

Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying
Irgata
Mrs. Addams, yes, the mesh - this = washes perfectly, and, yes yes yes - transferring to the mesh is very convenient - at the end of the drying, when everything dries up already, but here's a little more and it's ready, then I just put one mesh with the adhering dryers on another - and a lot sticks from the releasing sugar = trays are emptied - for round dryers it is especially important, almost finished down, slicing can again be applied to the upper trays that have been vacated.
And it's also good to take off the finished one - by the edges of the mesh, and pour or pick it into a basin. And the most important thing is that the netting is very fine - to dry the grass = little falls down = the grass still breaks, drying out.
Ukka
The daughter was on fire to buy Kelly KL-5085.But in large Internet stores it is not, but it is only in obscure unknown shops. Only two of them inspire confidence, but the delivery is horse-drawn. The best option was offered in VstroykaSolo, but I will have to move the dryer myself from Moscow, the cheapest and the store is reliable.
Girls, who have already bought, in which stores did they take it?
Kitforth's daughter will not pull ...
OgneLo
Quote: Ukka
Daughter lit up to buy Kelly KL-5085
This is a very good option, but in terms of price / quality ratio (at a price of no more than 3000 rubles) it is the best. Mechanical control is convenient, clear and reliable. Compared to Kitforth and other electronically controlled analogs, everything is the same, but with mechanical control and without a built-in timer.
Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying
By the way, if the temperature regulator in Kelly KL-5085 is smooth, then the temperature regulation in it is practically by degrees, and not with 5 ° steps, as in analogs with electronic control!
Ukka
Marina, thanks for the information, but my daughter and I have read everything there is about this dryer and have chosen it as the OPTIMAL option for us in terms of price / performance parameters.




The question is, where to buy cheaper, in a trusted store, and so as not to hit your feet.
Veta twig
Olya, 🔗
Delivery in Moscow 300r. Pickup from their points - 50 rubles. It is not heavy, only voluminous.
OgneLo
Ukka, self-delivery, in almost any that has the real details of the seller on the site (and they are in the purchase receipt), with delivery, almost (if you are satisfied with the price and delivery terms), similarly.

🔗

Ukka
Marina, thanks again, but do you really think that I have not studied the Internet before asking a question in the topic?
I ask specific people who bought in specific stores.




Veta, yes, this is one of the two proven stores that I had in mind. But delivery to the OZ bites, however ...
I'll have to rush to Moscow ...
Elina
Quote: Ukka

The daughter was on fire to buy Kelly KL-5085. But in large Internet stores it is not, but it is only in obscure unknown shops. Only two of them inspire confidence, but the delivery is horse-drawn. The best option was offered in VstroykaSolo, but I will have to move the dryer myself from Moscow, the cheapest and the store is reliable.
Girls, who have already bought, in which stores did they take it?
Kitforth's daughter will not pull ...
I bought it yesterday at NicePrice, but not all cities have it either. I was also worried that a store unknown to me, payment in cash upon receipt. They even gave me a check. I'll try it tomorrow. The breast is pickled.
And when choosing, it is not so much a matter of price as it is necessary to understand whether it will not stand idle. Moreover, I do not have a lard-garden. That is, the scale of application is small.
Gladis
Quote: OgneLo
By the way, if the temperature regulator in Kelly KL-5085 is smooth, then the temperature regulation in it is practically by degrees, and not with 5 ° steps, as in analogs with electronic control!
Smooth. I bought it at prices. not. By the way, there is now an action on pallets for marshmallows "Tray for the Walter-1000 solid dryer" 188 r. in the section accessories for kitchen appliances.
OgneLo
Quote: Elina
And when choosing, it is not so much a matter of price as it is necessary to understand whether it will not stand idle. Moreover, I do not have a lard-garden. That is, the scale of application is small.
for a small scale, the 6-tray Kelly KL-5085 is ideal.
Quote: Gladis
Smooth
Excellent!
Ukka
Quote: Elina

And when choosing, it is not so much a matter of price as it is necessary to understand whether it will not stand idle.
Thanks for sharing !!!
My daughter and I liked that the baking sheets were rectangular and solid, we sat down on Belevskaya marshmallow according to the recipe of Gali gawala. Well, the price, even with delivery, is attractive. But somehow, purely psychologically, it is difficult to pay for delivery as much as the dryer itself.




Gladis, thanks, I look now in prices not.
OgneLo
Quote: Ukka
psychologically, pay for delivery as much as the dryer itself
Then, take it away ...
Irgata
Features of infrared dryers.

The use of infrared radiation is a promising trend in food drying.The essence of infrared radiation is the excitation of atoms and molecules, which occurs during their thermal motion. A body that has absorbed such radiation will heat up due to an increase in the thermal motion of its atoms and molecules. In this case, energy is transferred from a body with a large potential for heat transfer to a body with a lower potential. With regard to food products, infrared radiation penetrates into them approximately 6-12 mm in depth. Not much radiated energy reaches here. But it should be noted that at a depth of 6-7 mm, the temperature rise of the dried product is much higher than with convective drying. This is due to the exposure of the product to short-wave infrared rays, which have a deeper effect on the molecular structure.

The peculiarity of infrared drying of products is that such a wavelength of radiation is selected that affects only the water in the product. This radiation is not absorbed by the product itself, which makes it possible to carry out the drying process at rather low temperatures of 40-60 ° C. Thanks to this, vitamins and biologically active substances are preserved in the product. This means that the original color and taste remain unchanged. Such characteristics of the process of drying products using infrared radiation allow us to say that this direction is currently one of the most promising among other methods of drying food.

This drying method preserves up to 90% of vitamins and other useful substances in the product. In order for the processed product to restore all its previous qualities, it only needs to be soaked for 10-20 minutes. In this case, the organoleptic, physical and chemical characteristics will almost completely correspond to the original product. After reconstitution, the product can be consumed both raw and processed in any way. Thus, when drying vegetables, fruits, fish, meat, cereals, as well as any other products, it becomes possible to create food concentrates for instant meals. The list here is quite long. These are the first, second and third courses, and various snacks and cereals. Vegetable and fruit powders for the food industry are also produced. They are usually used in the preparation of baby food. The advantage of infrared drying is that the reconstituted products are almost exactly the same as the fresh ones. The positive effect of this method is the appearance of anti-inflammatory, detoxifying, antioxidant properties in food powders. Products processed in this way are often used in the dairy, confectionery and bakery industries. Thanks to this, products are created that have specific nutritional qualities. The technology of drying products with infrared radiation does not allow the use of preservatives or other substances harmful to human health. It does not use electromagnetic fields. Cabinets for infrared drying of products and the radiation that is used in them are absolutely harmless to humans.

Infrared drying of products makes them resistant to the development of microflora. No special storage conditions required. It is enough just to provide low humidity in the room and the products will be well preserved throughout the year. During this time, the level of vitamins in them will decrease by no more than 5-15%. You can increase the shelf life of products by using sealed packaging. So the storage time can be increased up to 2 years. After processing, the products lose up to 75% in volume, and up to 85% in mass. But after soaking, the reconstituted product will be completely ready for consumption or any cooking.

The equipment used for infrared drying deserves special attention. The fact is that the technological process makes it possible to use almost 100% of the energy supplied to the drying zone.

A little clarification is needed here. Infrared drying is the excitation of water molecules.The molecules of the product itself remain at rest and therefore are not heated by radiation. Hence the high efficiency of the drying process, which makes it possible to limit the temperature to 40-60 ° C. This feature of the infrared drying process has the following positive aspects:
- there is no damage to the tissues of the product at the cellular level, vitamins are preserved, sugar caramelization does not occur;
- there is no heat loss through the walls of the equipment and ventilation, since the drying process takes place at rather low temperatures;
- infrared radiation destroys all microflora, ensuring the sterility of the finished product.

Infrared drying equipment is versatile and can be used for drying plant products as well as animal products. It has the following advantages:
- among all drying methods, this equipment has the lowest specific energy consumption per 1 kg of evaporated moisture;
- energy consumption is less than 1 kWh / kg. This is two times less than with any other drying method;
- the drying process takes place at temperatures not exceeding 60 ° C;
- the process itself takes quite a bit of time. Typically 30 to 200 minutes;
- cabinets for infrared drying are simple and reliable, have a low cost and quickly pay off.

🔗


of course, this information is more about industrial infrared drying ovens, at the household level they are not cheap, but, for the sake of interest, the information is quite useful

Ani
Good morning! My husband bought Veterok-2 without consulting (The reviews are good here, but she is huge! Where to store until the next harvest) Or is it a contrived problem?
I looked closely at Kelly, can I take her? But her holes seem large in the photo - are they suitable for berries?
There are a lot of apples this year ... And next year there will be a downtime ...
Leave Veterok or hand over and buy Kelly?
I also liked Kitfort, but the price is not happy ...
Irgata
Quote: Ani
I looked closely at Kelly, can I take her?
necessarily and her !!
One dryer for crops, even if it is a roomy Veterok-2, is about nothing.

A Veterok-2 perfectly specifically for drying apples, [/ u] and other hard fruits and vegetables.
The trays are deep, without a hole in the middle, the bottom of the trays with rather small holes, this is very convenient, a lot can be dried without lining any mesh.
And I dry the apples in cubes, if the apples are large, I remove the middle and cut them on the alligator. If the apples are small, then I simply cut them into slices "in a circle" until the middle of the apple remains = the middle, by the way, I also dry it on a separate dryer.
Cutting vegetables - on a berner, or electric cutting, coarsely smaller. If it is smaller, then I put an ironing net on the bottom of the tray.
You can put in such a large deep tray in bulk, consider it a full tray.
I have 2 similar dryers - Rotors, very good with them.

Smart husband!

Well, Kelli is needed for large cuts, for drying, for meat.

dryers similar to Veterka-2, for example, Rotor , Dry wind MP
Ani
Irsha, Big Veterok, just a huge one .... Autumn will work and stand for 2 years ... Apples in a year ...
Nata19
Experience has shown that the bigger the dryer, the better. First we bought a normal one, as it seemed to us, and then they went for a hefty one. In addition to apples, we dry mushrooms, berries (black chokeberry, mountain ash), dry tomatoes, dry zucchini, because they turned out to be the best for winter in dried form, dry various herbs, dry marshmallow jam. Even outside the apple year, both dryers are in use all the time.
Irgata
Ani, well, how huge he is)) not more than the same Kelly, but it enters Veterok-2 much more than Kelly at one time.
You cannot pour slices into flat trays in a cabinet-dryer in bulk, it is better to dry-dry something in slices and slices.

And besides apples, you have nothing to dry? a lot of things can be dried, even if you don't have your own garden, everything is not expensive at the markets in the fall.

In winter, you can put dumplings in trays, on a rag so that they do not stick, and in the cold, for example, in the freezer, or on the balcony. Manty, too, dumplings.
Dry the noodles, and not necessarily in the dryer, but simply in the lattice trays + ironing net, the noodles dry out faster.

And that dryer will stand. so what - not all of our units we use every day.
The main thing is that we have it, and we can use it.
Ukka
I chose, I chose, I chose Marta MT1952 black, 320 watts.
We met yesterday. Yes, she, of course, dries slower than Rotor, but such beautiful dried tomatoes turned out to be cream !!! The color is preserved, and at the same time they are completely dry. Dried for 8 hours. Actually, my daughter wanted this dryer for Belevskaya marshmallow. I didn't have time to make a frame for it, so I laid it out on a Teflon mat, silicone paper and tulle twice for the experiment, cut it out to size. There is no difference ... It dries the same way. Flatbreads 1.5 cm thick. I dried it for 12 hours, I’ll come back, I’ll dry it for another couple of hours. But even in Rotor, it takes 14 hours to dry on average, or even 16 ...
While I like it, this type of mother-in-law's daughter liked it for a long time. Almost noiseless, transparent. While the assigned tasks are being fulfilled. I will carry out tests further.
For small volumes, for a small family, for purchased everything has the right to life.
Olga 61
Irsha, by the way, the middle is also dried on a separate dryer.
For what? Then what to do with them, I'm so sorry when I throw them away




Quote: Ani

Irsha, Big Veterok, just a huge one .... Autumn will work and stand for 2 years ... Apples in a year ...
Take it easy. There will be a dryer, there will be something to put in it to dry. You will see. I, too, have this opinion. Two are not alone. Need to take




Quote: Ani

Irsha, Big Veterok, just a huge one .... Autumn will work and stand for 2 years ... Apples in a year ...
I am now drying watermelons and melons. what is malnourished.
Irgata
Quote: OLGA 62
for what?
into the compote.
I like to brew this tea = apple cores + herbs, leaves.
I used to make a lot of compotes - in jars - from oilcakes and from the middle of apples and pears.

Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buyingBerry and fruit cake in compotes, jam
(Irsha)


sometimes disputes arise - what is waste and what is needed))


Olga 61
Quote: Ukka

I chose, I chose, I chose Marta MT1952 black, 320 watts.
We met yesterday. I will carry out tests further.
For small volumes, for a small family, for purchased everything has the right to life.
Olya, can you try to dry something from meat. For example chicken breast. Can someone tell me. Can that kind of power handle it?




Quote: Irsha

into the compote.
I like to brew this tea = apple cores + herbs, leaves.
I used to make a lot of compotes - in jars - from oilcakes and from the middle of apples and pears.

Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buyingBerry and fruit cake in compotes, jam
(Irsha)


sometimes disputes arise - what is waste and what is needed))


Well ... now I will dry
Irgata
Quote: OLGA 62
Can that kind of power handle it?
the dryer is not large = and the capacity is appropriate.
I have one baby, round - power 250W, but it dries just like the big ones.
They will not put powerful heating on a small volume.
Ukka
OLGA 62, Ol, I'll try, just not today and not tomorrow. I drain the marshmallow, cut it into a large pepper, into the baby tomatoes. Tomatoes are still left to dry for tomorrow, not yet cut. In, damn it, I raked it ... One of these days I'll take a file, I'll try to wither it.




OLGA 62, Ol, I've just thought. You have Gravolka and Oli Zvezda Gravolka. And both of you dryers dry marshmallow in a crouton. Can the fan be too powerful there? Do you set the temperature to maximum? Try to make your second marshmallow.
Tell me again, what will your kids dry in a small dryer? I tell you that my mother-in-law's dryer, an analogue of mine, dries perfectly mushrooms, apples, bananas, apricots, dries up to ringing overnight. They have it for three, the mother-in-law gives it to my and my second son and daughter-in-law. I used to dry tomatoes on this one, and dry pastille for Galina, but with flat cakes. Be patient until Thursday, I'll take a picture of what I dried and for comparison from the Rotor. I used to just break up ... Be patient, please. Believe me, she copes with the minimum volume. And Ira is about the same. Look at Ira in the profile, she wrote about hers and there is a photo of the finished product.Mine has even more power.
Olga 61
Quote: Irsha

the dryer is not large = and the capacity is appropriate.
I have one baby, round - a power of 250 watts, but it dries just like the big ones.
They will not put powerful heating on a small volume.
oh, so the meat can be dried too? I read somewhere that there should be at least 500 capacity for meat.
Ani
Quote: OLGA 62
Take it easy. There will be a dryer, there will be something to put in it to dry. You will see. I, too, have this opinion. Two are not alone. Need to take
I can't) It's not my unit, this Veterok ... It makes a noise ... It takes off from time to time ... Everyone, I wonder, is the sound uneven?
And even with my apple harvest, I physically do not have time to load all 6 pallets
and one huge sight makes me sad - like a washing machine)
I want something smaller and quieter, put it in a convenient place and dry it all the time ... And this one is only for the season .. In general, I feel sorry for the money, and myself, and the place that it takes ...
During the night, of course, all the apples dried up, but how many times I cut them ... And now I'll go cut ...

And for marshmallow, silicone mats are specially sold round with a hole?
And tell me, please, do you need to boil apples for marshmallow or how to puree them raw?
Irgata
Quote: OLGA 62
I read somewhere that there should be at least 500 capacity for meat.
power has something to do with it), the meat is dried and dried without any dryers, and often in huge chunks at the same time - it's just that there is a long shrinkage in the air.
The meat will cook in both the powerful pressure cooker and the much less powerful slow cooker.
Quote: Ani
but how many I cut them ... And now I will go to cut ...
There are many cutting devices - electric cutters, burners, alligators.

Well, how, if not cut something? Well, dry in halves is also an option, a dryer will quickly overlap, if you don't remove the middle either, only here something is definitely needed more and more powerful))
Drying seems to happen by itself, but the preparation of products for it is sometimes not quick.

You have rather strange requirements for an electric dryer - and to dry harvest, and not a couple of kilos for dessert, and so that you can't hear or see her)
For "not to hear and not to see and not to approach and not expensive," take the Dry Hose M5 or M8 - the trays are like those of the isedri = laid out and forgotten, it works quietly, nice-looking, compact. Electric dryer Sukhovey # 148
Quote: Ani
The breeze ... Rustling ...
big metal fan, that's good.
Without labor and time spent, how to process the crop, especially if you have your own, gardening? This is from summer until the end of October, just have time to put everything in jars, lay out freezers, electric dryers, and then rejoice at the supplies, or not be fooled, and take everything in the store))

Well, if only for dessert - then it's another matter, the volumes are not large.

Quote: Ani
apples on marshmallow must be boiled or how to puree them raw?
marshmallow can be different, for example, for belevskaya, for example, for a thin layer and for raw it is dried ..
Raw apples are smashed with a blender - submersible or stationary, or in the bowl of a food processor with knives.
You read the drying topics, everything is detailed there. and about different dryers, and recipes and cooking methods.
This is the topic about choosing a dryer.
Ilmirushka
Ani, It is impossible to write EVERYTHING in one message, although Irsha tried. But if you want to know, see and understand HOW-WHAT and WHY ... read the forum! Read different topics, see different recipes, reviews of different techniques. There are so many things here! And people ... will always respond, tell, show and share their knowledge and experience
Fotina
Infrared gemlux gl ir500, I wonder how the quality?
Oroma
Ani, my neighbor recently bought an Orson dryer at Online Trade for ridiculous money, it looks very neat On the account of "how much I cut them." I also cut with my hands. Yes, not fast. I sit down for an hour at 11 am, put my tablet next to it, turn on YouTube, listen and cut. I take out the middle with the device, cut it into circles. Not too stressful. But, if it is very annoying, you can probably buy some kind of machine for cutting apples.
Fotina
10 Belomo pallets are filled with medium and large apples with a core knife and a Berner V-grater (probably any other - the same way) in exactly 30 minutes. Spotted)
Ilmirushka
Quote: Fotina
using a core knife and a Berner V-grater (probably any other - the same way) are filled with medium and large apples in exactly 30 minutes. Spotted)
and if you call the combine for help ... it will take even less time
Oroma
Ilmirushka, and what can be done with apples using a combine? Which attachment are you using? I'm dulling something
zvezda
Ira, oh, how I found you here in time
I rush between Ravmid and Kitforth for 9-11 pallets. How do you think, is it worth the metal baking trays to cling or plastic is good, will it not really affect ?? I dry everything that catches my eye, I need a big one, that's for sure! Can you jump up what ?? Neither noise nor something superfluous bothers .. I perfectly understand what and why
Svetta
Quote: Ani
This Veterok is not my unit ... It makes noise ... It takes off periodically ... Everyone, I wonder, does the sound uneven?
And even with my apple harvest, I physically do not have time to load all 6 pallets
and one huge sight makes me sad - like a washing machine)
I have Veterok-2, I wrote about her here that she was making noise. But my noise, rather a hum, uniform, without drops. Due to the size and noise, I use the dryer only in the country, where it is stored all the time. Last year there was a large harvest of all kinds of fruits, especially apples, so the dryer was plowed around the clock. There is no harvest this year and I have never turned it on at all.
I do not make pastila, there is no demand for it from the household. It is possible that she would have dried meat, but there is no desire to drag this bandura into the apartment. It would have to be placed on the loggia, since it hums and heats the air decently, but there is no place for it on the loggia. As it turned out, for our family, this unit is not very much and is needed, well, only in the years of a large harvest. And for everyday use, a small, low-power, quiet dryer would be fine. And it’s not a fact that I would use it - the electricity is very expensive.
It all comes down to the preference for using dried products. Vaughn Irsha dries everything she sees, then in winter she uses these blanks with pleasure, so she has more than one dryer. And we somehow do not really have all these compotes, from last year's dried and half did not go away, enough for this winter.
zvezda
Quote: svetta
Irsha dries everything she sees
Well, straight SISTRA !!
Ilmirushka
Olga, I do not know what it is called, in the form of a straight slot, I cut potatoes on it with plastics for baking. So why the apples are not allowed in the same way, the circles will be the same thickness, they will dry the same way.
zvezda
Ilmirushka, who are you ??
zvezda
Ilmirushka, where did you send me
Ilmirushka
zvezda, Olya, don't be afraid, it's here, outside the garden!
zvezda
Quote: Ilmirushka
behind the garden
In ... you posed me about nreshchka, but I have no problems with this

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