OgneLo
Quote: Kassandra26
which electric dryer is better to choose?
If you don't have your own garden, then you can consider any with horizontal airflow, temperature range from 35 to 70 ° C, including:
1) with a vertically opening flap door:
1.a) for 6-7 trays (Kitfort, Rawmid, Kelli, Travola), these models differ from each other only in price, body color (black, white or gray), material of which the trays are made (plastic or metal), quantity pallets and nets included in the set, a control panel (Kelli has additional differences: a mechanical temperature controller with a step of 1 ° C and no built-in timer; the rest have an electronic one, a temperature controller with a step of 5 ° C and a timer for 19.5 hours with a step at 30 ")
Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying
Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying
1.b) similar options for 9―10 trays (Kitfort, Rawmid, Travola) with 18 guides for installing trays
Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying
Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying
Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying
Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying
Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying
or,
2) with hinged door
Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying
2.a) analogues of the previous ones with the same characteristics, but with a hinged door (Kitfort)
2.b) with a timer for 24 hours and the same other characteristics (Kitfort, Rawmid).

If there is a garden and a large amount of drying is possible, then it makes sense to pay attention to dryers with vertical airflow and the ability to purchase additional trays for them.
It makes no sense to consider any dryers / dehydrators with a power less than 500 W.
Natalia K.
Quote: zvezda
the last figure is the number of pallets!
come on...
Kitfort KT-1904 -6 metal pallets
Kitfort KT-1905 - 6 plastic pallets
The rest is all the same Yes, by the way, it is very convenient that the door opens like a microwave oven.
zvezda
Quote: Natalia K.
come on..
Itself is shocked! Others have it!
Kassandra26
Thank you girls!) And which pallets are better than plastic or metal?
OgneLo
Quote: zvezda
Others have it!
not for everyone, for OZONE:
Travola KYS-333B - 6 trays
Travola KYS-333D - 9 trays

Quote: Kassandra26
which pallets are better plastic or metal?
for drying - no difference, for something heavy - the metal is somewhat stronger.
zvezda
1904 - metal and 1905 - plastic pallets!




Quote: OgneLo
for drying - no difference
Well, you are forgivable to everyone except you ... the thermal conductivity of metal and plastic
Kassandra26
Are pallets sold separately for kitfort? For liquid, one in the set, for marshmallow I would like more
Natalia K.
Quote: Kassandra26
Are pallets sold separately for kitfort?
Anna, in Kitfort 1905 and 1904 6 pallets for marshmallow, 6 nets for drying herbs and 6 basic pallets. Go to the office. Kitforth website and read about dryers.
OgneLo
Quote: zvezda
thermal conductivity of metal and plastic
there is not such a large area of ​​contact of metal rods with the product, especially placed on a plastic net or pallet, that this value can be neglected!

On trays made of metal with a mesh of 11 mm, we put a mesh with a mesh of 4 mm ... Yes, at least we put a mesh for ironing or a piece of organza ...
It's not for you to lay out a product for drying in the sun on a new galvanized or polished stainless steel! There, under the sun, the heating of the mushroom worms scurry about in a race! Water, in the sun, in a 3/4 "pipe heats up so that that water can burn your hands. From our own practical experience.

Quote: Kassandra26
Are pallets sold separately for kitfort?
Kitfort, completes to the maximum (how many trays, the same number of nets and the same number of pallets), there is no need to buy anything in addition, but in the future they seem to plan to sell them separately. Or buy an analog from Rawmid.
zvezda
Quote: OgneLo
large area of ​​contact of metal rods with the product,
sufficient !! I just want to check it on metal .. I'm sure the difference is noticeable!
Kassandra26
Thanks to all!
Natalia K.
Quote: zvezda
I just want to check it on metal .. I'm sure the difference is noticeable!
Ol, but check it out ... We are interested in hearing the opinion of two dryers. Stop pulling the cat by all the limbs ...
OgneLo
Quote: zvezda
I want to check on metal
waiting for the results. Although it's obvious:
Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying
I do not dry anything on bare trays. I have their nets in Isidri (I immediately bought them at the same time as the dryer / dehydrator), in Travola there are "grill and oven nets" made of fiberglass with a Teflon coating. It sticks less to the nets than to the trays, and it is more convenient to remove, since the mesh is more flexible than any tray.
dopleta
Quote: zvezda





Well, you are forgivable to everyone except you ... the thermal conductivity of metal and plastic
Ol, is it forgivable for an engineer to call thermal conductivity thermal conductivity?
Svetlana777
Quote: zvezda
I just want to check it on metal .. I'm sure the difference is noticeable!
I also think so
Quote: Kassandra26
for the marshmallow would like more
but I don’t understand these trays, maybe I’m the only one, but for sheet pastilles (which some call fig, by the way, while studying the site of Belevskaya pastilles and their assortment, I first met this name there, but in appearance it is different. I remember pastilles and in the markets it was sold rolled into a tube) Personally, I prefer to do on a Teflon sheet, and it is easier to remove and dry faster, but plastic .. no, not mine, I tried to do it on such a tray 1 time - I barely tore it off, now for me these are pallets for drops if that. (before Teflon, I dried it on waxed parchment, cut out circles once (dryer to Travola) and used it repeatedly) Therefore, for me personally, these are unnecessary components, for which I also have to pay.

take for example Travola and a similar Kitfort KT-1907 comes out additional 5lotkov and 5 grids stand like another Travola, somehow overhead. And I rarely use a plastic mesh, there are more universal teflon or mesh, even for ironing, at least buy in fabrics and make everything cheaper yourself. I wrote my personal opinion, it is not necessary to convince me, as some are trying to present as evidence not their own experience, but information from the Internet. Here is a comparison of plastic and metal trays, I'm very interested to know, not theoretically, but in work. I have experience of 3 brands of different dryers, 2 of which are simple round ones, I can tell and compare, and advise about their work, but I don't see any reason to talk about them. I think on HP in any topic they come for advice from users, and you can collect empty information, comparison, rating yourself - this is heaped on the internet, but there is no guarantee of the veracity of these ratings / spoiler]

Irgata
Quote: Svetlana777
but I don't understand these trays
and I have the same opinion about trays and a net as in travola and others like it

the best nets are from Izedri
Svetlana777
Quote: Irsha
the best nets are from Izedri
why? looked at them, too, made of plastic
Irgata
Quote: Svetlana777
why? looked at them, too, made of plastic
Izedri's nets are thin, fine-mesh and flexible - so I took an "example" from them and began to use the nets for ironing.
And in the grass and the same tunnel ones - the nets are thick, large mesh and not flexible.
zvezda
Quote: dopleta
to call forgivable
No ,,, I'm guilty, but I'm writing from the phone, and maybe I messed up myself, but not very critical, I think they understood me!

It's better to be a good person, but not very literate, than hefty literate, but g ...






Quote: Irsha
large cell and not flexible.
Well, let's say it's not very flexible! I really liked making veils and making belevskaya and blackberry raisins!
I still can't go out for flax!
I threw an apple and dried it - one in Travola, the other in Ramik .. the difference is palpable, but I can't show it, they accidentally helped (crumpled)
dopleta
Quote: zvezda
I'm writing from the phone, or maybe I messed up myself
Yes, the phone is unlikely to correct for non-existent words.
Olga 61
Quote: zvezda


I threw an apple and dried it - one in Travola, another in Ramik .. the difference is palpable, but I can't show it, they accidentally helped (crumpled)

What's the difference? At least explain on your fingers




Well, Olya has decided on a name. Ramik, beautiful!
Svetlana777
Quote: zvezda
one in Travola, another in Ramik .. the difference is palpable, but I can't show, they accidentally helped (crumpled)
well, don't show it, just tell me about the differences (in Ramik I think they dried up faster, am I right? I will speculate about the shape and taste
OgneLo
Quote: Svetlana777
plastic .. no, not mine, tried to make on such a tray 1 time - barely tore it off
Pastille sheet / Solid pallet at Isidri, slightly greased with oil and practically nothing sticks to it. Better to use coconut (it won't go rancid). Likewise, Izidriv mesh / mesh pallets - everything can be easily removed from them. I will repeat once again: that is why we do not dry anything on bare pallets.
Quote: EZIDRI
EZIDRI
ELECTRIC DRYERS
User book
For models: CLASSIC FD3000, SNACKMAKER FD500 and ULTRA FD1000
Trays:
One layer of sliced ​​fruits or vegetables can be placed on each tray. Then the trays are placed on the base and covered with a lid on top.
Mesh pallet:
It is a removable mesh tray, very flexible for better removal of sticky and viscous products after drying, and also for small products that, during drying, and mainly after drying, can spill out through the holes of the tray.
Solid pallet:
Lightly oiled with vegetable oil, used for drying pastilles, snacks and soups. The pallet is also placed on the lower tray when drying pre-marinated meat for jerky, and when drying herbs and flowers.
Hollow tray:
This tray provides a high dryer height for drying large items such as bunches of herbs, flower buds or long-stemmed flowers.
From the herbal pallet, all the juices that have dripped and dried on it are also easily removed, although I do not lubricate it with anything and use it as a pallet for collecting crumbs and drops.
For Travola, instead of trays for marshmallows, I plan to buy teflon baking sheets, but so far I can't get out to buy. It's cheaper than matching Rawmid pallets.
zvezda
Marina ま り な, take the veil, really please !!
Apples turned out to be faster and, as it were, evenly dried, but on plastic it was longer and wetter .. wetter !! The child ate .. I'll do it again and show it !! Now I went for bananas and flax ..
OgneLo
Quote: zvezda
take the veil
not within walking distance, so not now
Quote: zvezda
on plastic and longer and wetter .. wetter !!
Once again: I have nets on all trays - everything dries quickly and efficiently. But! I have a good air exchange around the dryer and there is no dampness in the air, even now, despite the fact that there are aquariums on the same table next to it and the apartment now has disgusting ventilation.
Svetlana777
Quote: zvezda
Apples turned out to be faster and, as it were, evenly dried, but on plastic it was longer and wetter .. wetter !!
I thought so, thanks to Olga for the experience. Let your handsome man continue to only please with his work (I think that the tests with Belevskaya marshmallow are ahead of her ... Eh, if I hadn’t grabbed 2 grasses, I also bought such a Ramik, I really like this door and of course pallets
Olga 61
Quote: Svetlana777

I thought so, thanks to Olga for the experience. Let your handsome man continue to only please with his work (I think that the tests with Belevskaya marshmallow are ahead of her ... Eh, if I hadn’t grabbed 2 grasses, I also bought such a Ramik, I really like this door and of course pallets
the one on those travolok Avito. both two. And buy the same man.
Svetlana777
Quote: OLGA 62
the one on those travolok Avito. both two.
no, I'm sorry for the girls who were obtained by back-breaking labor, and I love them, but a little man, here Olya will cook, how she will seduce, then I will think

already crazy thoughts crawl into her head to take the village, both two and chernomazika buy brakes while only being there 2 round still there, and the house my parents bought, I was already mentally figured that to get dragged away, but there for there is not enough space for my devices

OgneLo

Quote: Svetlana777
but there is not enough space for my devices either
summer kitchen, for them, you need to build

zvezda
Marina ま り な, and no one is tormented by remorse
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Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying




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Svetlana777, Svetik, I am now marshmallow and here and there will load and see!
OgneLo
Quote: zvezda
but no one is tormented by remorse
No. Any other oil or fat familiar to us can give an unpleasant "surprise" in the form of a rancid smell and taste.
Such as you showed, I bought only for the sake of a jar with the inscription "Coconut oil", because my oil for current use is stored in a jar from Ashan's cottage cheese in whey for 1 kg, but I don't like it when it is in a jar with the inscription " salt "lies" sugar. There is no point in buying Russian-made coconut oil, since, as far as I know, coconuts do not grow in Russia.
I'm buying:
100% Coconut oil refined in 1 liter bottles for frying, Roi Thai, Thailand.

Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buyingChoosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying


At the moment, the price in our MI for it is in the range from 320 to 530 rubles. The only inconvenience for our climate: at temperatures below 25 ° C, it becomes solid. That is, in our climate, for current use, coconut oil from a bottle must be poured into something wide-necked, if necessary, pre-warming the bottle in warm water.
Svetlana777
Quote: zvezda
I'm going to make a marshmallow and load it here and there and see!
come on, I'm waiting . Oh, I feel you are encouraging to buy
Ol, but what about the coconut oil in the picture? did you grease the trays for bread? (on a box of oil New, interesting, I thought it was a novelty, it just came out, but I bought such oil 2 g ago, it was brown before the white boxes)
Quote: OgneLo
summer kitchen, for them, you need to build
you won't believe it, yesterday I was already thinking about it, one BUT, it's so interesting that the house was built with a covered passage to the barn

not on the topic of course, but forgive me, since the fall they have been looking for a house so that they can use the type of summer cottage ourselves, the prices we have, how much we reviewed the horror, but in all the houses upon arrival I remembered the location, floor, presence / absence of a basement - I like to harvest important, etc. We already looked at 5 houses in the neighboring area, returned, I remember everything except that. Husband to fly away and on the doorstep says - call, do not pull figs - take. And I remember only 2 apple trees from what I saw, that in the house I thought that the transition leads to the summer kitchen, pantry or somewhere else, but not to a barn for living creatures. Where to attach / attach a summer kitchen I don’t know, but I would very much like. In general, I think that if you are building for yourself in the house there must be a gorgeous basement, a kitchen, a large pantry with shelves, a summer kitchen, a garage, a bathhouse, and the rest as needed

OgneLo

Quote: Svetlana777
there is so interesting a house built with a covered passage to the barn
everything is correct, so that in winter to go to animals not through the snowdrifts. It has always been built this way: all buildings can be entered without leaving the roof, and the heated rooms can be entered through the canopy, so that less heat would escape when entering and exiting.


Quote: Svetlana777
on a box with butter New
Once they ordered a package, so it is stamped on.
gawala
Quote: Svetlana777
I think ahead of her and tests with Belevskaya marshmallow
Don't think she won't do it .. It has already been said that it’s delicious, yes, but it’s not ours ..
Svetlana777
Quote: gawala
Don't think she won't do it ..
okay, not our favorite, but nevertheless she was going to / promised to load some kind of marshmallow in both Choosing an electric dryer - recommendations, what to look for when buying # 1179, let's look at another pastille result

Galina, I will ask here while I remember. Do you know how Belevskaya differs from Kolomenskaya? I tried to find something how to do the second, but I could not find anything worthwhile.I just treated my godfather (she comes from Kolomensk) to Belevskaya marshmallow, so she asked why I was doing Belevskaya, she said that Kolomenskaya is better ... she answered - I do it because I like this one, but I haven't tried Kolomenskaya and haven't seen it in my eyes

gawala
Quote: Svetlana777
she asked why I was doing Belevskaya, she said that Kolomenskaya was better ...
You don’t even know what to say to that ..
Irgata
Quote: Svetlana777
what is the difference between Belevskaya and Kolomenskaya?
if this is the only difference, then here
"Apples with protein first and molasses they are whipped in such vats to obtain a homogeneous air-porous mass - you can overeat with this mass alone - it's really very tasty, despite the fact that it is an absolutely raw product. Then the resulting mass is poured into wooden baking sheets as thick as a finger and placed to dry in special ovens for a day or two .. "
And, judging by the photo of the dried marshmallow, the Kolomenskaya cakes are initially drier. Probably.

🔗


Tancha
Quote: Svetlana777
Do you know how Belevskaya differs from Kolomenskaya?
I'll have to ask my daughter. She and her child often go for walks to Kolomna. And they were in the museum, they tried marshmallow and brought home. But something in my head was not deposited. She tasted Galina marshmallow, was delighted. I'll have to ask about Kolomenskaya, let him compare.
Svetlana777
Quote: Tancha
I'll have to ask about Kolomenskaya, let him compare.
ask if her opinion is interesting
gawala
Quote: Svetlana777
really interesting
Light, I'll tell you a secret, only you to anyone .. Ours is still better than any industrial ..
Irgata
A little more about Kolomna marshmallow

PASTILA KOLOMENSKAYA, BELEVSKAYA AND GOST: SUBTLE DIFFERENCES
We are often asked - what is the difference between Kolomenskaya marshmallow and Belevskaya? The same question interested the Program of the 1st TV channel "Test purchase". And so the film crew arrived in Kolomna to the Museum Pastille Factory, and an investigation began. In search of an answer, 3 identical sticks of marshmallow (75x21x20 mm) were taken - Kolomenskaya (according to the 1912 recipe), Belevskaya (according to the 1912 recipe) and prepared according to GOST, which is now on the shelves of all stores.
The heaviest and densest was a stick of marshmallow according to GOST (25 g and 0.79 g / cm³); the weight and density of a bar of Belevskaya pastila were slightly less (20 g and 0.63 g / cm³), while Kolomenskaya pastila turned out to be the lightest and less dense (10 g and 0.32 g / cm³). But the mass fraction of applesauce in Kolomna marshmallow was the largest. As it turned out, Kolomna marshmallow consists of 70% apples, Belevskaya - 66%, and marshmallow according to GOST - 20%. At the expense of what, one wonders, the weight? The answer is obvious - due to sugar, the mass fraction of which in marshmallow according to GOST reaches 77.0%, in Belevskaya - 33.2%, and in Kolomenskaya - 26.8%. Another subtle difference was found out: in the Kolomenskaya marshmallow, there were the most egg whites, giving it a special whiteness and airiness. This is where her historical epithets come from - white-foam, airy, loose.
So, the truth, as always, was in the details: Kolomenskaya marshmallow prepared at the Museum Factory according to historical recipes, in comparison with its "younger sisters", proved to be the most apple and least sweet, as the lightest and least dense marshmallow, which, in fact, is singled it out in the 18th century from the rest - mostly heavy, brown and viscous Russian pastilles and made it the famous Kolomna specialty, which has become an integral part of the Russian table and national Russian cuisine.
We are watching a fragment of the release of the TV show "Test purchase" on July 21 with the participation of the director of the Museum factory of pastilles ELENA DMITRIEVA and the head. confectionery production and the Laboratory for the reconstruction of historical tastes - MARIA NIKITINA.
P. S. Please note: Elena Dmitrieva was the first to voice the hypothesis about the Italian roots of the word "marshmallow" and the technology of its preparation, brought to Muscovy by fryazh masters in the era of the most intensive contacts between Moscow Russia and Italy in the mid-15th - first third of the 16th centuries.

Olga 61
Quote: Svetlana777

no, I'm sorry for the girls who were obtained by back-breaking labor, and I love them, but a little man, here Olya will cook, how she will seduce, then I will think

already crazy thoughts crawl into her head to take the village, both two and chernomazika buy brakes while only being there 2 round still there, and the house my parents bought, I was already mentally figured that to get dragged away, but there for there is not enough space for my devices


While I was dreaming about izidri, I bought a grass for 9 sheets. I am very pleased with her. And I realized that I like the box. Now I want to be like Oli's, Ramik. What about the dream? So I sit on two chairs. Can't understand what to dream about now?
Irgata
Quote: gawala
Ours is still better than any industrial one.
)) ours is made according to industrial recipes, otherwise it would not have been so tasty.
I really like Belevskaya marshmallow, which is Belevskaya, classic, sugar-free, "biscuit" made. Dense, rich taste. Well, with different berry and fruit additives, it's also delicious. More expensive, it would seem, home.
But - if we consider that we cook a rather small piece of marshmallow at a time - and the consumption for the dryer, electricity, and if the fruits are purchased or they need to be brought from our remote garden, then perhaps there will not be such a big difference in the difference industrial and home pastilles, and most likely the cost of industrial marshmallows will be less.
The taste of home, of course, will be different, no worse, no better, just different - in the production of the oven, but we have small dryers and ovens.
The recipe is one, but the conditions for cooking are slightly different.
Quote: OLGA 62
Can't understand what to dream about now?
but I have a travola, 2 simple round rotor dryers, 1 small round simple, 2 round izdripodnye = and all DREAMS practically came true. And not expensive.

gawala
Quote: Irsha
ours is made according to industrial recipes
Quote: Irsha
The recipe is one, but the conditions for cooking are slightly different
Well, you yourself answered. Technology.
But this is not a topic for discussion here.
Olga 61
Irsha,

So I have Voltaire 1000, and as many as 15 trays for it. But I dream of isidri.
zvezda
Quote: OgneLo
There is no point in buying Russian-made coconut oil,
And it's not destiny to write about it right away ?? !! How did I know ?? I already bought this oil because of you, but she, look, the princess, has not yet been pleased
Quote: gawala
Don't think she won't do it .. It has already been said that it's delicious, yes, but it's not our FSE
How did your beaver tongue turn to whisper something like that !! ??? I just buy everything for her! And there is no such that I did not have it! I dress her! Don't you remember my explosions ??
I'm doing Kolomenskaya! Less sugar, beat more and protein turns out, for 350 mashed potatoes - 1 protein!
Now I'll shoot Ramik's morning video, the modet will help someone ..
And I sowed one baking sheet
gawala
Quote: zvezda
How did your beaver tongue turn to whisper something like that !! ???
She said it herself. I'm not going to look for this quote now .. You have more to your heart with uhari.
zvezda
Quote: gawala
with uhari
This is definitely mine ... I like crackers more, but no one has given up on marshmallows for good ... I just need to finish off the crackers, but the marshmallows have already turned out !! You don’t let me get bored with your ideas, but we’ll get out here, keep up with you ...
OgneLo
Quote: zvezda
And it's not destiny to write about it right away ?? !!
This oil itself, in principle, is normal, just more expensive (my mother even fried on organic first pressing when the oil for frying ran out and there was a full jar of fragrant oil on the table). But now you have a specially labeled container for new servings of coconut oil for your current needs.
Quote: zvezda
How did I know ??
That coconuts don't grow in Russia? Now you know!
Quote: zvezda
Look, little princess

Quote: zvezda
And I sowed one baking sheet
buy, since they are available separately.
Tashenka
I have Isidri 500, completed with up to 12 trays, pastilles and nets. Aki slave has been working all year round for over 10 years.I love her dearly. But I really want Travolka (I don’t dream of Ramik) so that the layers are rectangular and solid.

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