Byaka zakalyaka
Quote: Chubby

Ehhhh, so I'm getting old
I clarified "if he himself is not delighted with her"
The taste and color, as they say, the markers are different
Personally, I don't have a single friend of a young man who would decorate his house in a classic style, from this I concluded that children may not even appreciate my mother's choice
Niarma
iris. ka, samples of countertops should also be, if not in this company, then in others, and you can see and touch for free. I walked around a bunch of companies in Kemerovo, chose all the facades
Bijou
Quote: Byaka zakalyaka
what can I do not check my mother's choice
Oh, and my son and I completely coincide.
With daughters, however, in no motive.
Knor
Byaka zakalyaka,
I wanted a completely different kitchen at first, went to the salons, brought the drawings home. Smooth modern was a dream
On one such trip in a furniture center, the whole family ran away from my husband and me and jumped into a German expensive kitchen corner. I had a negative attitude towards the corners up to this point. As soon as we sat down at the table, we decided - ours. And they began to select the kitchen so that it would fit under this corner
Aunt Besya
Quote: Byaka zakalyaka
Do not drive him into the framework of your taste, let him choose the style of the facades, and decide the color together.
Gyyyy So if he took part ... I was here somehow unrelenting, like, do I need one? Not for me to live, why don't you participate ?? So he scratched his turnip and said that apparently, at the subconscious level, he does not want to move out .. Well, how should I be ??
Byaka zakalyaka
Quote: Aunt Besya

So he scratched his turnip and said that apparently, at the subconscious level, he didn’t want to move out.

Well ... That's why they are children, how is it to tear yourself away from the warm, cozy mother's wing. Even the girls at the very least want independence, and the boys all strive from their mother's caring hands, to go into the hands of their wife.
Take him for a walk to the furniture salon, and there you will see for yourself which of the exhibition specimens he will pay attention to.
Such pleasant cares, I am still very, very far away from that, but I would already gladly build a nest for a cub
NatalyTeo
kolobashka, wooden The tabletop looks beautiful new, but it is not at all practical to use. Especially if you cook a lot. It is necessary to cover with a special protective oil, you cannot put hot things, cut too.
kolobashka
NatalyTeo, well, it's natural to cover. They said that it would be possible to cut even earlier without consequences. But, of course, I disagree without looking. I will look and feel.
m0use
I have an Ikeevskaya wooden, indescribable beauty, in the morning I first go up and iron its cuts are not visible at all, something moderately hot can be delivered without consequences. .. The work surface itself is in perfect condition after a year of crazy operation, but near the sink ... oh, it's just trouble - the wood is swollen, there are black spots under a jug of water, I constantly run around with napkins Initially, the table top is processed, but apparently I will have to once again go through the oil. And maybe more than once.
Kara
Quote: Kolobashka

NatalyTeo, well, it's natural to cover. They said that it would be possible to cut even earlier without consequences.

Generally cutting on any countertop is not good at all. Even natural stone will look disgusting if cut on it. Long ago, they came up with cutting boards
kseniya D
Quote: m0use
but, apparently, you will have to go through the oil again
Ksyusha, on the forum (ideas for your home) in the ikeev theme, wooden countertops were discussed. I remember writing that they should be processed at least once a year, or even half a year. And despite the fact that it was soaked, during the installation, the people were once again passed through with oil.
variety
Quote: Aunt Besya

Straight with great interest I read the last conversations - it’s really relevant to me now. Just approached the choice of kitchen furniture in the renovated one-room apartment, from which I made the studio. Everything there is so tiny, straight byada 240x120 clean for a headset (on the short side the refrigerator will go further), I also break my head over the color .. It turns out that except for white, nothing will go there - the color eats up the whole space.
Girls, but no one will tell, light tones of wood such as ash, bleached oak with patina, how do they affect space? I do not like modern or techno
Aunt Besya ,
Facades that reduce space:
- dark;
- warm shade;
- matte;
- textured;
- with a pattern (the more contrasting the pattern, the stronger the degree of "compression" of the space);
- with decorative details;
- vertical doors (but at the same time they "raise" the ceiling);
- small doors and shelves.

Accordingly, an ideal kitchen that "expands" the space will be

light cold tones, glossy, non-textured without a pattern and decorative details, with horizontal large doors and the absence of small drawers and shelves.

Of course, all this is most often difficult to combine (due to the user's taste and the conditions of the kitchen), so you can step back from some of the least satisfying provisions. But keep in mind that the more of these provisions are observed, the more the kitchen space will be "extended".
variety
Quote: Byaka zakalyaka
It is a misconception that light shades are the only thing that does not eat up space. They add volume and a huge number of dark shades only in the lacquered version. Reflecting in themselves as in a mirror, they increase a small volume.
This is true, but in a small kitchen there will also be furniture and appliances located at a very close distance from the facades, and it will be reflected in them. That instead of the depth of space can give a feeling of its cluttered and cluttered. With the effect of reflection, you need to be very careful in small rooms and in interiors filled with details / furniture.
variety
Quote: Jenealis

Aunt Besya, I have simple white glossy facades for 3 years. I'm honestly not overjoyed! I always see where something has dripped from me, I don’t breed unsanitary conditions, I quickly tyranula and that's it, once a week with microfiber, sometimes with a steam generator. I just also have one of the rooms with the kitchen combined, and the question of saving visual space was acute. It is difficult to clean out the texture (wood, etc.), so today I accidentally spilled the dough on the waffles in a second, because it is even, white, you can immediately see where something ran away. Here.
You are the hostess. But will a man bother so much, track every drop and run after her with a rag? Choi, I’m daunting! Guys, they usually have their own ideas about cleanliness and order.
Rita
Quote: variety

You are the hostess. But will a man bother so much, track every drop and run after her with a rag? Choi, I’m daunting! Guys, they usually have their own ideas about cleanliness and order.
This is the harsh truth of life. How many times have I found my husband, quickly cutting something, right on the countertop. And after a quick washing of one tomato or an apple by my husband, everything around was flooded. At the same time, I cannot complain that my husband is dirty or a sloppy person. It's just that for him these are little things that are not worth attention.
I would never install a natural wood countertop, although it is very beautiful.
variety
Rita, it feels like you described my mushshchinko And also instead of putting a piece of bread or pie on a saucer and then transferring it to the dining table together with the saucer, he carries it on a saucer on the dining table, leaving a trail of crumbs.
And a few cuts on the tabletop are also his handiwork (although he stubbornly refuses to admit it).
Scarlett
Quote: Rita
And after a quick washing of one tomato or an apple by my husband, everything around was flooded.
Weak! Mine will not wash at all - so it will gobble up (if it has time)
Quote: variety
And also, instead of putting a piece of bread or pie on a saucer and then transferring it to the dining table with the saucer, he carries it to the saucer on the dining table, leaving a trail of crumbs behind.
Mine eats at the computer - I force the keyboard to be cleaned regularly, otherwise a new life will arise there
Lika_n
mine for less! wash, takes a midget saucer :))))
variety
Quote: Lika_n

mine for less! wash, takes a midget saucer :))))
(I roll under the table and kick my legs) !!!
That's why mine prefers to put a whole slide on a small plate instead of neatly spreading everything out on a large one !!!! And I could not "finish" everything and was surprised when I saw such "strangeness" on his part! Evona as: it turns out, everything is not without reason and makes sense!
Yes, you have revealed to me one of the secrets of male behavior!
Bijou
Quote: variety
in a small kitchen there will also be furniture and appliances located at a very short distance from the facades, it will be reflected in these facades. And this can give a feeling of cluttered and cluttered space.

In small spaces, the simpler the better. And along the walls "khokhloma" do not hang the trash. My son, however, ordered a horizontal strip in a tiny kitchenette from the balcony, but, oddly enough, in beige-gray-brown blurred stripes in combination with cold gray tones (aluminum and stainless steel) and frosted glass came out quite attractive.
OlgaGera
Quote: Lika_n
mine for less! wash, takes a midget saucer :))))
and from which, in the process of moving, something is sure to fall to the floor. So then also wash the floor ...
It looks like they're all twin brothers
variety
Quote: Bijou


In small spaces, the simpler the better. And along the walls "khokhloma" do not hang the trash. My son, however, ordered a horizontal strip in a tiny kitchenette from the balcony, but, oddly enough, in beige-gray-brown blurred stripes in combination with cold gray tones (aluminum and stainless steel) and frosted glass came out quite attractive.
Yes, really, it is better not to hang anything on the walls. But I can't, my kitchen is small, there are few cabinets (the furniture is simple, like a stump) and there is no place to store all this in them. Therefore, while the exit is the rail. I have a lot of sundries hanging on it, mainly scoops, colanders, a couple of blender attachments, oven mitts, a cutlery basket, cutting boards and three graters. And all this on a total length of about 1.8 m. Sometimes I look and so I want to shovel it all off the wall and hide it somewhere in one fell swoop !!! But as soon as I imagine that for each thing I have to climb into different boxes, I will immediately "lose heart". This is very convenient for me, because part of the railing is against the wall not far from the sink and cutting table, and part is above the stove: everything turns out to be at hand and is taken with maximum time and effort saving.
So it turns out that with a small kitchen, you need to either cook less often on it, or have fewer all kinds of kitchen devices and little things. I do not have any of these conditions.
variety
Quote: OlgaGera

and from which, in the process of moving, something is sure to fall to the floor. So then also wash the floor ...
It looks like they're all twin brothers
"fall to the floor" - ah, how recognizable!
Bijou
Quote: variety
so while the exit is the rail. I have a lot of stuff hanging on it.
This is a must! Otherwise, the kitchen ceases to be a kitchen in the sense that it is a workshop for the production of food and everything should be, first of all, convenient and rational.

I'm talking about something else! Quite often I see in my acquaintances in small spaces an abundance of some kind of shelves with balusters, ceramic tweezers placed there, frills on curtains with a drawing, decorative clocks-brooms-bunches-magnets on miraculously remaining clean spaces ...
And it will be lucky if the walls are without a distinct pattern that adds a general mess to the landscape.)
toffee
Interesting,Bijou... In principle, everything is correct.But I really want frills, magnets, and fintiflyushki. I'm thinking of hanging curtains-noodles in the kitchen. I shared it at work, but I was told it would look poor. Strange, it looks so beautiful in net ...
Bijou
Quote: iris. ka
In principle, everything is correct. But I really want frills, magnets, and fintiflyushki.
You need a sense of proportion in everything, probably ... Now, if you transfer this to your dress, for example? We're not going to cling to it all the decorations invented to date, right? We will choose harmony and elegance, avoiding incompatibilities and excesses in details.

In general, the main thing is to like it yourself. And do not give a damn about what others think on this topic, it is not for them to live. How is it ... Sometimes advice is asked not to follow them.

ps. By the way, I like the noodles too.
tana33
iris. ka, Irina, I have a glass apron, I like it))
I refused from the rails, I suffered for a long time, because it is convenient, but the desire to have order won out, there were rails in the old kitchen, very convenient, but the feeling of a mess did not leave me)))

curtains-noodles look good, stylish, as for, they say, poor, then I think lovers of organza, taffeta and other shiny fabrics say so
and although I myself like all the above sparkles, I like them exclusively on other people's windows))))
for noodles, I like the two-layer version, the inner one hangs freely (like tulle) and the outer one is picked up with the help of grippers, in one direction or in different directions
the main convenience of the noodles is access to the windowsill and to the window, you do not need to move anything, then curtain back
kolobashka
Scarlett, our husbands are of the same breed. Mine doesn’t come into the kitchen on its own initiative. Dali - he eats, they did not give - he would die of hunger, but he himself would not go to get food. And he eats at the computer, like yours. And from the floor he likes: "A quick lift is not considered a fall."
Aunt Besya
For several days we have been sorting through all these filing films, all the heads have been sent ... the roof is already going straight. While we are discussing two options: the first combined: top
Lavender pearls 🔗
The bottom is the same shade, but without a pattern.
Here is the top of this lavender 🔗
The second option is just plain from "Light coconut" 🔗
Here's the top 🔗
What do you think?? The height of the tops will probably be 90, but immediately from the table there will be horizontally opening and above them vertically
I can't find a suitable picture, but something like this .. only an open place will be an opening drawer, a mechanism as in the picture on the left.
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Tanyusha
Aunt Besya, I like the second option.
Bijou
Oh, these complex doors open so slowly ... We twisted, twisted, and just put single doors on each shelf.

And there are no hinged doors upstairs in any kitchen and not close for security reasons. At one time, my son lived in an apartment, so he beat his whole face, bumping into ordinary open doors - he was used to the fact that at home they just rise and do not interfere. So in his kitchenette he immediately said "no way!"))

Oh, no, I'm lying! There is one cabinet above the oven that swings open to the left. Moreover, there is a large glass door ... Constantly someone bangs their head on the aluminum corners, although things are stored there, well, the most rarely used.
Aunt Besya
Tanyusha, and I gravitate towards the classics

And in my headset, the curtain opens as in the picture on the right and plus two more boxes such as in the left picture. There is also a simple opening upwards, but it is false, above the hood, only closes the corrugation. I store in these boxes in one spices and seasonings, and in the second small dishes such as baking pots, cocotte makers .. The only negative is that when this lower box is open - the upper hinges cannot be opened any more. But in the upper ones I have something that is rarely required, so the inconvenience is not felt. And I really like the dryer!
Angel with horns
Aunt Besya, Elena, a pull-out drawer at this level will not be convenient. But the mechanisms "Aventos" for two facades, as in the lower right photo, are very good, though not cheap.It is better to take a tabletop more practical - with a plastic coating, if you have furniture from St. Petersburg manufacturers there, then I recommend the tabletops of the "Slotex" company as a combination of price and quality. The stone is also good, but much more expensive. I do not recommend wood. A good wooden countertop is fabulously expensive, and those that are affordable are capricious to use. The drawing on the facades in a small kitchen does not look very good. And any, even embossed, even in the plane. Better smooth monochrome (paint, plastic, veneer). If anything, I have been a professional furniture maker for many years.
Aunt Besya
Irina, thank you very much !! For enlightening the drawing !! I still doubted, now I will definitely refuse, because there is not just a small room, tiny!
Probably, I wrote it incomprehensibly, it is best-selling, but I plan boxes with such mechanisms at a height of 60 cm, and above them are already swinging ones. So it's just convenient, you don't need to raise your hand much and everything that is urgently needed is at hand. I have done this now, quite conveniently. The mechanisms are Bloom, they run smoothly, many times a day back and forth, they have been serving for the 4th year already. I was planning a table by Slotex, but I just can't choose that it will suit this coconut. Nobody makes a stone here, and I won't order from Petrozavodsk by bitter experience. I went through so much with my own that I don't want to anymore ...
Angel with horns
Quote: Aunt Besya

Irina, thank you very much !! For enlightening the drawing !! I still doubted, now I will definitely refuse, because there is not just a small room, tiny!
Probably, I wrote it incomprehensibly, it is best-selling, but I plan boxes with such mechanisms at a height of 60 cm, and above them are already swinging ones. So it's just convenient, you don't need to raise your hand much and everything that is urgently needed is at hand. I have done this now, quite conveniently. The mechanisms are Bloom, they run smoothly, many times a day back and forth, they have been serving for the 4th year already. I was planning a table by Slotex, but I just can't choose that it will suit this coconut. Nobody makes a stone here, and I won't order from Petrozavodsk by bitter experience. I went through so much with my own that I don't want to anymore ...
Maybe something under a small pebble? If the young man lives alone for the time being, then a very good option in terms of cleaning. Even if there are crumbs and drops, it is still not visible. There are good colors that imitate wood, you can try something dark, in contrast. Only without long longitudinal stripes, because when a sink and a hob are embedded in it, then at a short distance the lines will not look interesting, in pieces. In general, these are very pleasant chores - home improvement. Good luck with your choice and be lucky with the manufacturer!
V-tina
Aunt Besya, I am for the second option, we have made the top - oak locarno (the color is similar, the structure is different), it looks very good, the cabinets are also 90, the only thing is that now I would still make those cabinets by the stove by 60 and raise them to the level with a hood, because they interfere with my work all the time
tana33
Aunt Besya, Elena second option))) more suitable for the boy, concisely)))
V-tina
Quote: Angel with horns
Maybe something under a small pebble?
different colors "granite" you can try to look (honey, for example), looks very worthy
Byaka zakalyaka
Definitely the second option suits the boy the most. Moreover, the classic technique of a dark top, a light bottom, very harmoniously relieves the space at the top. Regarding, everything will be reflected in the gloss and will be littered .... in the L-shaped kitchen, on one side, light from the window will be caught (greatly brightening the wall), and on the other side, all objects will be too far away to directly "litter" the space.
In order for the boy to be relaxed to support all this, in the end, it is definitely better to have smooth facades without texture and without diapers.The lower facades, so that nothing is visible on them before the upcoming cleaning, take not a solid color, but a color that consists of small stripes of the same shade located horizontally (such as straw, thin zevrao, etc.) you can not see anything on them.
From a distance of a meter, the color looks monotonous, and due to the hazel grouses, neither spots nor fingers are visible.
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Cirre
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Aunt Besya
Girls, thank you very much for your advice !! What would I do without your help and prompts, they are always so on time and right! In general, the repairs are going on tightly, I can hardly cope without advisers, my head is spinning !!
zhita
Accidentally caught.
Small but roomy kitchen.

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Byaka zakalyaka
Aunt Besya, look at the situation differently, you yourself decided to do it yourself .... This is a million times better than if you had "hachu like this" from all sides, "but I want to do it."
Maybe they don't help, but at least they don't interfere. because otherwise it would be a swan, pike and cancer
Everything will work out for you, you will soon sit on the sofa, take a look at everything and think "what a fine fellow I am, I could!"
A woman, she is such a creature that the main thing is not to interfere with her and everything will work out for her
Good luck
toffee
Quote: Zhita

Accidentally caught.
Small but roomy kitchen.

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I went and looked. Interesting, but there are questions. How do they open the cabinet above the sink in the corner? It is clearly blocked off by something. And those containers-boxes in the corner behind the cabinet - why are they open? Maybe for the convenience of getting it, but in terms of dust and fat collection, it sucks. Sockets on the windowsill are not an option at all. Children are exactly playful under the handles. And in my opinion the TV is not in place. The hostess will hammer right into the ear.
toffee
Quote: Byaka zakalyaka

the main thing is not to interfere with her and everything will work out for her
This should be written directly on a poster and hung up for general viewing. I am simply knocked out of the rut by advisers at this stage of making the kitchen. Everything has already been selected, felt, estimated, paid for ... And they are like: "What color, what color did you choose? What are you completely ??? And how did you do the layout? Fuu, like everyone else."
tana33
Quote: iris. ka
This should be written directly on a poster and hung up for general viewing. I am simply knocked out of the rut by advisers at this stage of making the kitchen. Everything has already been selected, felt, estimated, paid for ... And they are like: "What color, what color did you choose? What are you completely ??? And how did you do the layout? Fuu, like everyone else."

Irina, yes))) they looked at my kitchen and some said - Everything seems to be good, but the brown countertop ... ((((
but I need just such a tabletop, this particular
and in general, my cuisine is not Euro, so that everyone likes it, I like it and this is the main thing
some tactfully kept silent about the apron, but I need this one, I have been looking for it for a long time, my mood rises from it in the morning)))
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Elena Tim
Quote: tana33
and in general, my cuisine is not Euro, so that everyone would like it
Well said! Need to remember...
tana33
Elena Tim, oh, Len, I don't know how to cook beautifully, like you, so at least I said beautifully
Elena Tim
Yes laaan ...
kolobashka
tana33, Yes indeed. I should like my kitchen, and let others like it for their taste. It's all out of envy. Our people are not used to rejoicing for others.

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