Furniture for kitchen

This is how I'm going to cook rice.

I disagree with this point A rice cookers, which multicooker you have for what ?! Quickly on the topic * how to cook rice *
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I'm wondering ... is this a window or is it an apron?
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I'm wondering ... is this a window or is it an apron?

If you look that the hood is ceiling-mounted, then maybe there are windows, but why then the seams on the "window"?

The idiot's dream came true - I hung up the bars. Tomorrow, in the light of day, I’ll go to take a picture of the result. I look at your kitchens and cannot decide for myself: at what distance from the upper cabinets should the roof rails be hung? From the countertop to the 84 cm cabinet, LED lighting will soon appear under the cabinets.

[Wasp]

I look at your kitchens and cannot decide for myself: at what distance from the upper cabinets should the roof rails be hung?

Wasp, my experience says that it is better to hang higher - you don’t know in advance what will have to be hung. I have 5 cm from the bottom of the lockers to the railing, just right, I don't need it closer. So I bought a huge long bread knife, like Mona 1, so it does not reach the tabletop a little, look at the photo.

My railing also weighs at a distance of 5 cm from the upper cabinets. But when I bought a hinge for it and took a stand for knives and boards, it turned out that this distance is not enough. Two large knives are not included. It is even problematic to slip them. I had to hang this shelf under the dryer. There is no bottom in it, which gives an additional 4 cm, which is very necessary for knives, as it turned out. Therefore, think carefully about everything.

Question:

From table top to cabinet 84 cm,

why so much?

I'm wondering ... is this a window or is it an apron?

This is a window, not an apron. Here is a different angle.

well and well ... spoil such a fabulous view with a hood ..

And don’t tell. Here you don’t know how to get at least a slice of sight .. for this you are planning the second floor and all the same they blocked off the bastards .. my husband is already saying * can we build a third? * Yeah I say a turret

[Wasp]

Wasp, my experience says that it is better to hang higher - you don’t know in advance what will have to be hung. I have 5 cm from the bottom of the lockers to the railing, just right, I don't need it closer.

Thank you! I was afraid if it would be too high. Now I'm calm, I left to cut the pipe (3m pipes are several times cheaper than three 1m roof rails)

84 cm, why so much?

I was visiting several friends, I had to help set the table. Low hanging cabinets have the following disadvantages:
- Bruises on the forehead from handles and corners;
- nothing is visible on the countertop 10-15 cm from the wall;
- neck and back hurt, because you have to stand in an erotic position so as not to knock again on the bottom of the locker;
- you still can't get anything from the top shelf without a stool;
- above the cabinet a) empty (dust collector) - irrational use of the wall, b) old rubbish, boxes, rags.

Advantages of high-hanging cabinets:
- no bruises;
- a good overview of the surroundings along the entire table top;
- no posture disorders;
- it is almost always easy to get the item you need from the two lower shelves;
- if you wish, you can still put something on the cabinet for storage, but on the countertop there can be a high rack / vase with flowers, a bread maker with a lid folded back, a whole tower of dishes can accumulate in the sink, etc.

I hung it as high as it was possible to drill and fasten the suspensions (I did not hang it on "crutches", but on thick bolts, tightened it with a wrench). But I can place the oven and microwave oven one above the other, if necessary, and buy another device for the vacant space.If interested, my height is about 167 cm.

Intrigued .. I went and measured my distance to the upper cabinets - 78cm
But I hung them flush with the window, my window is narrow and long in the whole kitchen, such as a loophole. It would have been higher, I hung it higher, that is, for the sake of harmony, I hung it like that, but the boxes did not reach the ceiling .. I was upset, there is as much as 15 cm of a dust collector.The husband promised to close up this distance tightly with drywall or suitable boards .. but as they say, you have to wait three years for the promised

Ps. my height is 164cm

[Sedge]

Sedge, I will immediately forgive my forgiveness for getting into the text of the quote! I realized that you are striving for convenience. But I will just speak out so that you understand that we, too, seem to live with comfort!

I was visiting several friends, I had to help set the table. Low hanging cabinets have the following disadvantages:
- Bruises on the forehead from handles and corners; -
I now have a distance of 55 cm. In the old kitchen it was 60 cm. Now this minus is not observed in my kitchen, but it was observed in the old one. I explain: the old doors were hinged, now they open up. Everything. Minus is excluded. Honestly.
- nothing is visible on the countertop 10-15 cm from the wall; - I see everything normally, although I do not have illumination directly under the lockers
- neck and back hurt, because you have to stand in an erotic position so as not to knock again on the bottom of the locker; - did not have to take such poses
- you still can't get anything from the top shelf without a stool; - I take it out from both shelves with a height of 164 cm
- above the cabinet a) empty (dust collector) - irrational use of the wall, b) old rubbish, boxes, rags. - well, everything is individual here

Only from the pros I will support

a bread maker can stand on the table top with the lid folded back,

This is worth a lot!

How to hang lockers, of course, is everyone's personal business, but for the sake of justice I will say - I have 60cm to the lockers, HP is with the lid open and there is still space, there is no empty space on top, because there are still lockers above them to the ceiling, but what bruises were filled in someone else's kitchen duck, it's not surprising, even when I am at my mother's place, I handle the doors very carefully, but she is used to it ...

And I, for the sake of interest, measured it. Also 60cm.

Julia, what do you like - so that the tables are empty, remove the equipment from the cabinets as needed, or so that the most in-demand one has its own stationary places?
It depends on how spacious the working area you need. Build on this. Think over your walks in the future kitchen, so as not to wind kilometers in an empty rush. You have a decent room, you can place it as you like - it only depends on your imagination. It is difficult to advise without knowing you.
Ellanna has a very difficult room. You have two windows and an arch, but there is room for both a work area and a recreation area. You can arrange these zones in several ways. There is room for imagination. Build on your preferences. In order for the kitchen to bring joy in the future, it must be individual, "sharpened" exclusively for you.

I love that everything was at hand, not to get it over and over again ...
It's hard for me to come up with something, since now there is practically no kitchen, there is part of the old one that was transported from the apartment, so half of the equipment is anywhere, half in the corner in boxes, and now I have only one desire, to put everything somewhere, and I think, due to the interesting situation, there are no ideas ... Exactly how I would like to put something somewhere ... And how beautiful and convenient it is to place it all

First, decide if you want a corner kitchen, that is, the working area can take a corner to the left of the arch, or another corner, diagonally to the arch. In the first option, you can install a sink by the window. In the second option, you can capture the corner space from one window to another. Or less (if this seems too much to you).

If you don't want a corner, you can make a separate area in one corner (where you marked it in the picture). But arrange it in two rows, as in Ellanna's diagram. That is, parallel to the row of lockers you have drawn, arrange another row. There will be two working zones: one preparatory, the second - a direct cooking zone.

But it seems to me that the corner option is still preferable - the kitchen will look more free, uncluttered, and flow smoothly into the living room.You can occupy the entire five-meter wall up to the window (what size is the window, by the way? The picture is small), and barely climb the second wall. There will still be a lot of space for a seating area, and you will not be cramped with pots.

I'm more inclined towards the corner option. The window is small, 1.5 meters. In the picture, it's like it is now.
In the corner there is a sink, then a dishwasher, a stove, 2 bedside tables (a small one with drawers and a wide one) for a small TV, and a large one is my work area now ... and a table.
There is a refrigerator near the arch, and an old sofa under a large window.
Unfortunately, I have no acquaintance friends who would live in the house, and there was a variant of a combined kitchen, I saw only in the photo. And I don't know how to make the transition between kitchen and living room smoothly, beautifully and conveniently.

Are you describing what is now? No other furniture expected?
A wall-mounted TV is desirable so as not to occupy precious surfaces.

no, other furniture is just foreseen. Now I'm trying to figure out how I want, and then start ordering.

For Ellana - you certainly don't have such a huge window, but the meaning is clear - you can also install work cabinets or a sink under the window.


And the equipment can be closed with such blinds.

yulyax and how do you like this design?

For Ellana, you certainly don't have such a huge window, but the meaning is clear - you can also install work cabinets or a sink under the window.

it is impossible ... she has windows almost to the floor .. all the charm of the garden will hide from her just a huge window .. it takes up the entire wall .. that's the problem ..

It is difficult to find the ideal option, only some kind of compromise option. She needs to place a dining room and a living room with a sofa in 19.5 meters of the kitchen, or a dining room and a kitchen in the living room of 19.5 meters. Here it is necessary to determine the priorities, which is more significant.

About these blinds

They are not cheap, in fact, we only need to close the lower part in which the equipment does not pull, but moves back and forth. And for this small part, it seemed to me not rational to install such an expensive thing to the ceiling. Secondly, it takes up half the depth of the countertop. Still, I am inclined (if the kitchen area allows), to expand the countertop due to the cabinet-niche behind the countertop, and a lot of equipment will be shoved in and you can save money on the doors, install ordinary aluminum or plastic runners, and the doors are also made of plastic or plywood type something ( lined of course).

I love that everything was at hand, not to get it over and over again ...
It's hard for me to come up with something, since now there is practically no kitchen, there is part of the old one that was transported from the apartment, so half of the equipment is anywhere, half in the corner in boxes, and now I have only one desire, to put everything somewhere, and I think, due to the interesting situation, there are no ideas ... Exactly how I would like to put something somewhere ... And how beautiful and convenient it is to place it all

Prefer a corner kitchen? Yes, she kind of saves space, freely .. but if you have children, then * kick them out of the kitchen * won't work, since you don't have a kitchen. And they will constantly be under your feet and everywhere you do not need to climb. In short, if there is someone to control the children besides you, then do the corner, it is really more spacious with it. True, you will have to move more, somewhere higher up it gave pictures of Americans' studies on moving housewives through kitchens of different configurations.

It seems to me that the corner will be more convenient, and there will be less movement than along the entire length of 5m. I was guided by this.
And how will it be more beautiful to separate? I have the option of a bar counter, and where there is a sofa, a sofa can be left, but then nothing can be put in front of it, since there is a front door. You can put a sofa on a blank wall on the left at the entrance, but you also don't put anything, since there is a passage to the arch and the bathroom ...

and if the corner is made where the sofa is now? and put the sofa against the wall opposite the arch?

So the sofa is there now and stands opposite the arch under the window.

and according to the plan on one wall with the arch

Julia, what if you still strictly zone the room? Something like this


In this case, we get 5 meters of the working surface, which is quite enough. There is a cozy tea and coffee corner near the window. It can (and even should!) Be turned into a bar one - by expanding the partition with a higher wall. Due to this, a stationary standing technique is hidden: it is convenient for you, and no one has an eyesore. Space allows.
Well, a sofa with a large table fits without problems. The corner near the arch (60 cm) can be decorated with a tree in a tub or a beautiful floor vase. Or you can put a beautiful sideboard there with tableware.

Sorry for the picture - I don’t know how to use graphic programs, but I’m still the draftsman. But the proportions are observed, so you can visually imagine how it will look.

I don’t know how anyone, but I like it very much. Only IMHO is a tea and coffee corner needed? if it is more comfortable to sit on the couch)))) and where is the TV?

Yes, with the TV ambush. Above the tea and coffee table or on the wall between the arch and the front door. If the second option is a corner sofa, it will be even more convenient.
A tea and coffee table is a must. Sofa and large table in the walk-through area. And there is a corner by the window - quiet, closed, even somewhere intimate. It would be very convenient for me to chirp in one with my girlfriend.

If the ceiling height allows, the TV can be hung on brackets to the ceiling.

and if the sofa under the window in the tea and coffee corner. A telly on the wall with an arch and then it will be from the kitchen. And instead of a sofa, chairs for the dining table? And on the couch, the atmosphere is more intimate

Not. A sofa is not only for the hosts, but also for the guests. A tea and coffee corner with a maximum of 2 m, and if you make a bar counter, then even less. There, if a sofa comes in, it’s a small one, between the two. You can, of course, replace it instead of a table with chairs / half-chairs. But all the same it will be a small zone, "for insiders." Or a kitchenette with the same purpose.
If you put a large sofa in this corner, then only by reducing the working area. I would not agree to that. But the kitchen is not mine. And the living room too

The work area should not be reduced - this is our everything!
I would just clean up the tea and coffee corner and expand the work area.
And further. Is it convenient to eat from the table on the sofa?

It is convenient if your height is two meters. But they will also have chairs. And the sofa - to receive guests, and lie without guests. You can also eat with your family in the tea and coffee corner, there is enough space for 4-5, maximum 6 people.

I just realized that the tea and coffee area is like a coffee table and an armchair.

You can, of course, and a low coffee table. But I would put an ordinary kitchen folding table 80 * 60 cm. (120 * 80). It is of a standard height, it is convenient to just chat over a cup of coffee and have lunch with a small team behind it. I have five sitting at such a table freely. With a strong desire, you can shove in the sixth

[azaza]

azaza Tatyana, well, just a huge human salvation !!! I just showed it to my spouse, he really liked the idea. Me too.
Firstly, the working area increases,
secondly, the running zone between the working areas decreases, everything is at the level of an outstretched arm
thirdly, the dining area is made very cozy.
True, you need to think about what would be convenient to transfer clean-dirty plates, probably to make a blind screen from the window, and then a bar counter.
As for the coffee table, so 100% not, we need a dining table, and for a large family We have 5 children, so 6-7 people eat every time))) But even with the fact that you need to lay out the dining table, everything is fine fits. Measured.
And it turns out conveniently for the guests. We decided to hang the TV on the wall, the one where the entrance will be visible from the tea and coffee area, and from the sofa, and me from my work area.
And put the table in front of the sofa only if necessary, when there will be a lot of guests.
Girls who can draw in the program to see how it will look, please help!
Our gas stove will be ordinary.I love her very good, we have a solid Bosch stove, I'm sorry to change it, convenient and beloved)
But the dishwasher needs to be changed, it will be built-in. Do you think it will be so beautiful?

If you remove the table in front of the sofa, you get a 100% option. The stove can be placed in such a way that it will not be very visible and the overall picture will be harmonious!

So, sir. put your own or something ...

Do you want to exercise, girls?

I liked it .. unusual

Julia, what if you still strictly zone the room? Something like this


In this case, we get 5 meters of the working surface, which is quite enough. There is a cozy tea and coffee corner near the window. It can (and even should!) Be turned into a bar one - by expanding the partition with a higher wall. Due to this, a stationary standing technique is hidden: it is convenient for you, and no one has an eyesore. Space allows.
Well, a sofa with a large table fits without problems. The corner near the arch (60 cm) can be decorated with a tree in a tub or a beautiful floor vase. Or you can put a beautiful sideboard there with tableware.

Sorry for the picture - I don’t know how to use graphic programs, but I’m still the draftsman. But the proportions are observed, so you can visually imagine how it will look.

the problem is ... a small kitchen is bad ... but here with a big one you don't know what to do .. ... but you can't get rid of the arch in any way? you because of this arch .. and the entrance door ... you also have to make an arched door ... and all the furniture with rounded edges .. ufff ..

Girls who can draw in the program to see how it will look, please help!

Say the height and width of doors and windows and their height from the floor. As well as the height of the walls to the ceiling

I carry my kitchen. Rather, the kitchen area.

Excellent care. I compare with three previous kitchens. Heavier with a dark gloss on the table top - you have to rub. And the lockers are not stained, in the sense that they wiped it with a rag and that's it. It doesn't give me much trouble.

Natasha .. I liked your kitchen .. but what about the refrigerator? not very far? I put it on the veranda here in the summer .. I was tortured to run ..

It is not far away, next to the stove, after 40 cm - the stove, at arm's length there is already an island where I put everything. In dreams, replace the refrigerator and remove the microwave. But while I stayed with him, dear, and I can't part with the mikruha. There is also a closet with a freezer and a “on call” equipment rack nearby. If you imagine that before the renovation everything was in the summer kitchen before, and rushed home "to eat" - now what the doctor ordered. I planned the entire trajectory of my body movements in the kitchen, and especially the absence of sharp corners.

Thank you! I was afraid if it would be too high. Now I'm calm, I left to cut the pipe (3m pipes are several times cheaper than three 1m roof rails)
I was visiting several friends, I had to help set the table. Low hanging cabinets have the following disadvantages:
- Bruises on the forehead from handles and corners;
- nothing is visible on the countertop 10-15 cm from the wall;
- neck and back hurt, because you have to stand in an erotic position so as not to knock again on the bottom of the locker;
- you still can't get anything from the top shelf without a stool;
- above the cabinet a) empty (dust collector) - irrational use of the wall, b) old rubbish, boxes, rags.

Advantages of high-hanging cabinets:
- no bruises;
- a good overview of the surroundings along the entire table top;
- no posture disorders;
- it is almost always easy to get the item you need from the two lower shelves;
- if you wish, you can still put something on the cabinet for storage, but on the countertop there can be a high rack / vase with flowers, a bread maker with a lid folded back, a whole tower of dishes can accumulate in the sink, etc.

I hung it as high as it was possible to drill and fasten the suspensions (I did not hang it on "crutches", but on thick bolts, tightened it with a wrench).But I can place the oven and microwave oven one above the other, if necessary, and buy another device for the vacant space.If interested, my height is about 167 cm.

please tell me .. what are you sawing there? where did you buy the pipe .. and what are you going to fix it on?
I have a height of 162 .. my husband has 182 ... hung the drawers on the kitchen, the lower edge at the level of my eyes (hated with quiet hatred-at the top, I got a spelled door) until I smashed my head against the door ... then I took it off .. but I scoffed .. he was watching football in the hall .. and I, darling, get me this and that from the top shelf ...