Creamy
What width is the dishwasher planned for this kitchen?
Rita
Quote: Ana-stasy

there in the corner the eyeliner is already ready for the sink and the PMM is therefore next to the sink.
It's not scary! Specialists under the plinth will take you anywhere!

In some topic, Larisa-Doplet showed a curved hob, not square. It would look great in the corner. And the hood, as in the picture, would also look better in the corner.
Ana-stasy
Quote: Creamy

What width is the dishwasher planned for this kitchen?

45, it probably doesn't make sense anymore. It's four of us.
Gypsy
ABOUT! Round .. Italian firm, three burners and there is the same hood and sink. She herself wanted this, but where it was sold inexpensively yok .. and in other places it is expensive. On the F firm, I have already forgotten.
Remembered, Foster

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Ana-stasy
Quote: Rita

It's not scary! Specialists under the plinth will take you anywhere!

In some topic, Larisa-Doplet showed a curved hob, not square. It would look great in the corner. And the hood, as in the picture, would also look better in the corner.

Larisa has a sink in the corner, like here, and then waves go in her kitchen. We can make the same waves, then these waves will rise at such a price to me
Ana-stasy
Quote: Rita

What does Larisin's kitchen have to do with it? I did not get that .

this is me already, you tell me about the cooking, and I about the kitchen
no, I really want a sink in the corner, although now I don’t know, I didn’t think about the cooking room in the corner
Gypsy
Quote: Ana-stasy

45, it probably makes no sense anymore. It's four of us.
For four, 60 is not enough for me
julifera
Ana-stasy

No, I draw, I just write everything for a long time, everywhere and I want to answer right away)))))

Honestly, I would not make drawers under the hob - there is such a zone:

1 - everything is slightly imperceptibly smudged down, although for a non-lazy hostess it is not a problem to constantly wipe 3 handles, etc.
2 - if something is fried, then somehow it is not possible to climb into these lockers with your hands

It seems to me ...

PMM-45 for 4 chelokeks - LITTLE, for two just right, for three - in a Polish butt
julifera
Quote: Rita

Anastasia, what is the width of the top narrow cabinets? They seem to me too narrow - not comfortable. What should be stored there?

Here I agree - it is not very convenient to place in narrow upper cabinets, it is inconvenient for hands there.

Quote: Vinochek

This beauty on the sides of the hood is inconvenient - there is so much dust and it is inconvenient to remove it - it is difficult to crawl through the holes. And for me personally, an open shelf on the left is impractical: a dust collector. putting a lot there will not work, and if there is something for beauty (otherwise why is it open?), a dust collector.

Here, too, I agree.
The beauty of such shelves - it is only at first, and then only when you get tired of washing them and when you realize that it is not very convenient to climb there to the very top ...
Ana-stasy
Sizes of the sides are 3500 and 1900.
julifera
Ana-stasy - in general, I want to say that the project is quite harmonious, everything is balanced in size, in general I like it
But harmony is not always completely on friendly terms with practicality.

I gave up a little beauty and now I am very pleased that everything is convenient.
And still wildly grateful Gypsy, who persuaded that gloss washes the easiest thing in the world! It's true!
I put in such deep handles that we practically do not slap the facade, and if there are splashes, or some splashes, they are wiped off in 1 second and then once a week if I see them!
julifera
Quote: Ana-stasy

Sizes of the sides are 3500 and 1900.

This is good room for variation.
My headset came out 2.60 x 1.60 - you won’t be too smart.
Ana-stasy
Quote: julifera

This is good room for variation.
My headset came out 2.60 x 1.60 - you won’t be too smart.

Thank you
but my head is already spinning, there is still a little time to think. And the price is too high for me. But I fell in love with the kitchen.
MDF enamel.according to this sketch with a plastic tabletop 240 thousand. If the table top is artificial. the stone is still + 100 thousand and this is all without technology.
Gypsy
It's a pity you are not in Israel, now in Ikea there are winter discounts, for Abstract (gloss), though only black and red, 50% discount until January 20.
Save money on technology, look for something budgetary. I bought myself a stove and an oven very successfully, Slovenia. The oven finally cost ridiculously, because I was probably the first customer. In just a couple of months, it cost almost 3 times more.
Ana-stasy
Quote: gypsy

It's a pity you are not in Israel, now in Ikea there are winter discounts, for Abstract (gloss), though only black and red, 50% discount until January 20.
Save money on technology, look for something budgetary. I bought myself a stove and an oven very successfully, Slovenia. The oven finally cost ridiculously, because I was probably the first customer. In just a couple of months, it cost almost 3 times more.

we have already thought, decided that we will take only the refrigerator and the cooking room, the rest will gradually be bought. But in the kitchen it is still necessary to lay it down right away.
Gypsy
Quote: Ana-stasy

we have already thought, decided that we will take only the refrigerator and the cooking room, the rest will gradually be bought. But in the kitchen it is still necessary to lay it down right away.
In general, yes, they are standard. We first bought the kitchen, then the appliances. So you can stretch out the pleasure
And no, the very first it was a dishwasher) the kitchen appeared much later, my husband collected it for a very long time.
q10niza
Ana-stasy , about the drawers of the drawers, the girls are three times right. I, too, "gave birth" to my kitchen for almost two years. And it's good that I didn't order the original version.
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I have towels, spoons, forks, chopping boards, cereals, noodles, sugar in the boxes in those in the first picture.
In those on the second - scapula-ladle-shredder, etc. in the upper, pots-pans in the lower.
And the closet, as far as I understand, is what you are planning?
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My lockers are also high - 94 cm, 11 cm to the ceiling. Everything opens perfectly. And the glass doors do not bother me at all.
Ana-stasy
q10niza Thank you
just do not understand what the girls are right about the boxes? what not to do under the pull-out brew?
Yes, we want such a cabinet under the dryer. But they are different and the departure is different. We were told that as we want, only 75 will fit, higher is impossible.
Kamusik
I would not bet the height of the cupboards (every cm in the kitchen is like a meter!) Because of the elevator. I have boxes under the ceiling with other lifts. IMHO.
Ana-stasy
Quote: Kamusik

I would not bet the height of the cupboards (every cm in the kitchen is like a meter!) Because of the elevator. I have boxes under the ceiling with other lifts. IMHO.

Tanya, can you tell us more about what kind of elevators do you have?
I think to leave the height, and where the lift is to make a horizontal cabinet on top
q10niza
after all, it is in them that the main attributes of the kitchen are stored
the master suggested to me on both sides of the boxes to make 1 shallow + 2 deep. And I had to shove every little thing at hand. It just seems to me that you will have a large depth of boxes. Estimate with a ruler.
Kamusik
I took a photo to make it clear that the elevator holds any opening angle.
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julifera
Quote: Kamusik

I took a photo to make it clear that the elevator holds any opening angle.
When the hanging drawer is not high, then yes, there is no need for 10 cm above the drawer, I have cabinets just like in your photos - in pairs in height with the same elevators
And if the door is 75 cm high, then such elevators are already inconvenient.
Kalmykova
And I have people like Kamusik. I'm glad.
Olex
Quote: q10niza

she "gave birth" to her kitchen for almost two years
It was worth it!!! so cool! I'll show my husband, let him see what I want
Gypsy
Quote: Kamusik

I took a photo to make it clear that the elevator holds any opening angle.
Is it called an elevator? Ikeev's cabinets also open like this.
Oca
I feel it would be nice for me, too, to post pictures of my kitchen. Only it is unfinished and it is not yet clear when it will end I want to show that the shelves under the wall cabinets are very convenient
Jefry
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Kalyusya
Quote: Vinochek

why two ovens?

And then, why and five multicooker. Three bread makers.Two combines. Well .... little things ........
k.alena
In American transmissions of the type Conversion is very often installed in large houses for large families and 2 ovens and 2 dishwashers. If there is a place and a need ... for example, baked ham in one and buns in the other. Well, or, in principle, only meat / fish, and baked goods in the other. Although such a kitchen, IMHO, is just cool in the picture. And every day in this ... brr
Countryman
Quote: k.alena

And every day in this ... brr

The larger the house, the more cleaning it has.

It is a very bad habit to strive to make life better. Life must be lived, not improved. Imperceptibly for us, the process of improving life turns into a way of existence, during which we forget what the fuss was started for. It turns out to be very contagious and fascinating to have at its core a mode of existence focused on improving [the very] life that we do not get our hands on as a result.

(c) From my collection - 🔗
kubanochka
Quote: Countryman

The larger the house, the more cleaning it has.

I bet In a big house, there is a lot of room for every thing. That is, everything has already been tidied up on the shelves, cabinets. And wipe all these shelves, cabinets, vacuum, wash ...
It was more difficult for me to clean up in a two-room apartment, because any cleaning there began with the question: "Where can I remove THIS? !!!"
Kalyusya
In-in ... and especially in the absence of any different storage rooms (none at all!) - shifting from place to place everything that is needed (I am silent about unnecessary, this is a controversial issue) takes a lot of time and effort. and the desire to clean up may disappear altogether. forever and ever
Anna1957
Quote: gypsy

the continuation is this: the family observes koshrut (they are Jews), therefore there are two sinks and two ovens. And maybe two refrigerators Since you can't mix meat with milk (a terrible sin, I'll tell you!)

A Jew needs not a simple apartment:

a Jew needs an immaculate home

an apartment in which there are two different toilets -

one for meat, the other for dairy.
I. Guberman, of course.
Kamusik
Quote: Kalyusya

And then, why and five multicooker. Three bread makers. Two combines. Well ... on the little things ........

There is no such letter in this word! Wrong answer .

Quote: Scarlett

They are probably different ... One is ordinary, and the second is of the type of a steam convector (it seems that it is called that)

And this is the correct answer.
The second oven steams, keeps food hot, reheats dishes for serving, etc.
Gypsy
When there were recent unfortunate events in Israel, my husband's juice bar closed at work during this time. No one went to various such establishments, since everyone was sitting in bomb shelters. But some still worked, it was my husband and some Bedouins. In the bar, the supply of fruit was disappearing, well, they began to spoil. And the workers slowly pulled from there everything that could still be eaten. After the war, everyone went to work and one Bedouin tells my husband that he ate some kind of fruit from the bar, sweet tasty, but then he was bloated for three days.The husband took him to the opened bar and asked to show this fruit (he did not know what this exotic was called) .. it turned out that he ate raw beets. Well, these are dark Bedouins.
Anna1957
Quote: gypsy

And what, it is, usually at least two toilets

We now even have 2 toilets in 2-room apartments in new buildings. But how to ensure that in one - only after the meat, in the other - only after the dairy, apparently, only Igor Mironovich knows
Ipatiya
An interesting kitchen layout is shown here. Instead of a hob - 4 induction hobs (10 min 56 sec) and a dimensionless table (6 min 17 sec).

https://www.youtube.com/w...er_embedded&v=XYV0qATsyts

Hope this is not a repetition of the information.
Oca
The video reminded the room of one of the main characters of the film "5th Element".

I decided to draw a plan for my kitchen:

======= /. window. \ door \ == ||
||*** ###### **||
||*** ###### **||
||*** @######@ **||
||*** ###### **||
||*** ###### **||
||*** ###### **||
||*** **||
||-O- | |===||===| ||
||-O- | | PMM || cold. | ||
|| ============= \ door ||

Legend:
** - lockers (in 2 tiers)
# - table
@ chairs
|| and == walls
-O- sink (2 bowls)
HP, MV, AG - appliances that stand so tightly (on the countertop 44 * 190 cm) that between two MVs on the "Pastry" in the third (middle) one can heat something. On top of the PMM there is an oven, kitchen. the combine still lives on a microwave oven, the rest is crammed into cabinets. There is also a place for a couple of devices near the sink (if you move the dish drainer and other trifles).
Oca
Quote: marinastom

Wasp, and what is the area of ​​the room, or rather, the dimensions of the sides?
If there are no kopecks, then from door to door it is 3 meters, and the wall with a window is 3.3 m.I’m going to bring the computer to the kitchen and take a picture with a webcam, but I just don’t have the courage to disconnect and reconnect all the wires ...
marinastom
Quote: Oca

If without kopecks, then from door to door it is 3 meters, and a wall with a window is 3.3 m.
I have 2.8 (where the window and the door are, that is, opposite each other) and 2.7 others. I broke my whole head, what where. And this despite the fact that we "built" the refrigerator and the PMM into the adjacent storage room, having cut out a part of the wall.
Ipatiya
Quote: marinastom

I watched "Avatar" for the first time, that is, opening my mouth!

Itself was delighted. Here's another from the same series. Here, the dining table is original (combined with a working office) with couches, as well as the apartment itself. I also liked the built-in wardrobes in the bathroom area, tiled with mosaics.

https://www.youtube.com/w...er_embedded&v=oLwQHd0BYcc

Wasp, glad you liked!
Ipatiya
Quote: marinastom

Oh, don't poison me! I love these retractable beds so much, I have no strength! Not to mention everything else.

Marina, with due elaboration, this is available to us. Folding beds are no longer a rarity.

And here there is practically no kitchen either, but there are so many secret places. Who is always in the way of her husband's tools? Can be removed out of sight.

https://www.youtube.com/w...tTjD0X0&feature=endscreen

There are many more interesting videos here: 🔗
Oca
Quote: marinastom

I broke my whole head, what where. And this despite the fact that we "built" the refrigerator and the PMM into the adjacent storage room, having cut out a part of the wall.
Note that I do not have a stove on the plan (and in the plans) At first I thought of giving it to the PMM, and then I changed my mind and built a cabinet in its place, covered everything with a large long table top, from the sink and the whole wall buzz ... I'm very sorry that wall behind the refrigerator with vent. mine, nothing to hang on it. I plan to build a 2-meter shelf above the PMM so that the place is not empty.
Ipatiya
Quote: Oca

Note that I don't have a stove on the plan (and in the plans) At first I thought of giving it to the PMM, and then I changed my mind and finished building a cabinet in its place, covered everything with a large long countertop, from the sink and the whole wall buzz ...

Wasp, with the number of devices that every decent deviceaholic has, the question arises about the expediency of the hob. So congratulations on the free countertop!
P.S. The plan is very original!
Oca
Quote: Countryman

Plan-drawing in pencil on paper, then it under the webcam. And the path is open to success. Even if there is no camera.
Now the time trouble is at work, there is a 3D plan (in 3DsMAX), it needs to be rendered and laid out ...
dopleta
Quote: Aunt Besya

I will have only one main problem: to find a specialist who can make an expert assessment and give an opinion on the reasons for such a change in color. I will not find such a specialist in Karelia. I think it should be a chemist ... well, and a lot of nuances about powers, licensing, etc.
Lenochka, first find out the exact name of the material, it should be announced in the contract, and read reviews about it and its weaknesses on the internet. Now there are many varieties of artificial stone for countertops, and the quality and price are different. I also have a sand-colored countertop and a sink made of it, I also use silicone rugs - both round and Tupper's. And I even clean the sink (although this is not recommended) with a chlorine-containing product. But after 7 years of use, no scratches or stains.
Gypsy
yeah .. about an expensive countertop

once again came to the Japanese .. Japanese kitchen, eh?
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yulyax
Girls, advise how to place that in the kitchen-dining room, room 5 by 6m. I drew here as we have now. I want to finally have a normal kitchen, well, and somehow make it beautifully and comfortably, but how, while I can't think of it too much.
This is our room. The archway leads to the bathroom, toilet and boiler room.
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Gypsy
Quote: Rita

gypsy !!!! And I wonder what is there on the floor with a little black with a long stick? And next to white with a display?
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# 2 think mop or vacuum cleaner

# 3 trash can

But number 1, according to my observations, the Japanese have the entrance to the bathroom from the kitchen (the door jamb is visible).So this display is such an automation with buttons, there is drying the bathroom, warming up and other pleasures, maybe a boiler .. When they leave the bathroom, they automatically dry in the bathroom so that there is no dampness.

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