azaza
Gypsy, how much work surface does your plan add? Tears. There is still a catastrophic lack of space either for equipment or for preliminary cutting of food. On the vacated patch, you can put one thing or the other in turn. I took out a harvester and chipped food. I removed the combine, put the multicooker in its place, threw in the food, cooked it. You can, of course, but such cooking will definitely not bring pleasure.
Gypsy
Quote: azaza

Gypsy, how much work surface does your plan add? Tears.
Well, that's not my plan ... I'm just tweaking it. To enlarge the countertop, you can skip the tall cabinet-case, put the oven under the hob, then + 60 cm more. Now there is at least 2 meters of free working surface.
By the way, about AG, which is an airfryer, with a good oven, it will not be nafik. Such a bulky and dust-collecting thing, with which there are problems with washing later.
yulyax
And I really liked the second option! And you can take the table with a transformer and lay it out as needed.
But all the equipment at once still does not use. And for what is needed at hand, it seems to me there is enough space.
azaza
Quote: gypsy

Now there is at least 2 meters of free working surface.
In such a huge kitchen. Terribly insulting! Windows on all walls seem like wow, great, light, beautiful, the garden looks straight into the room. But in fact, windows completely kill a decent area. It turns out a kitchen not for the hostess, but for the guests. The guests came and left, and the hostess was spinning there every day for several hours.
Ellanado you need these windows? Maybe solve the issue radically? We need another solid wall - either the one with two windows, or at least the one opposite the sofa. I look at your diagram, and my heart bleeds. And this is 19 sq. m.! I placed everything on 8 squares, and there is enough space, and there is room for guests. And here it seems like a huge kitchen, and the hostess will have to share a small patch with appliances.
In my old apartment I had two windows in the living room. One large, balcony, full-wall, the second standard on a long wall. It was a quiet horror. Because of this window, nothing really could be placed. So I was not happy with the additional light from this window: the room was already incomplete 16 m (and this is like a Living Room!). So it was just a standard window! And you have full-wall windows. Handsomely? Yes!!! Highly! But..........
azaza
Quote: yulyax

And for what is needed at hand, it seems to me there is enough space.
There is plenty of space when nothing gets in the way. It is necessary to use the combine - came up, used. And then you move on to the next operation and the next unit. And if you cook two dishes at the same time in different devices? And on holidays, when you need to feed many guests with more than one, mind you, dish. Where is there enough room? Everything will fall, crumble, make you nervous. And the kids will get confused under their feet.
I understand such tightness in 6-meter kitchens - there is nowhere to go. And some even have 4. But here 19 sq. m !!!
Gypsy
azaza, let's specifically how much cm do you need for kitchen devices? 2 meters is not enough? but there are more of them + a table on the edge of dumplings and pies to sculpt. The hostess will better calculate how much spare there is. Because I did not take into account the cm, I moved my eyes.
azaza
I've already said: at least 2.5 m for equipment and at least 1.5 m for cutting. This is the very minimum when you can work calmly, but at the same time dream of freedom.
Kamusik
Quote: azaza

Gypsy, how much work surface does your plan add? Tears. There is still a catastrophic lack of space either for equipment or for preliminary cutting of food.On the vacated patch, you can put one thing or the other in turn. I took out a harvester and chipped food. I removed the combine, put the multicooker in its place, threw in the food, cooked it. You can, of course, but such cooking will definitely not bring pleasure.

I would like not to intrusively add. Tan, do you know how they say in our country? - how many doctors, so many opinions! Long away not everyone I like the whole arsenal of household appliances displayed on the work surface! If we talk about grandiose cooking, then you can set everything you need. But I am sure that this does not happen 24 hours a day. The kitchen is, of course, a place where food is prepared using BT (for which we purchase it), but not at all an exhibition hall! IMHO.
makabusha
My opinion. If my kitchen unit is not on the countertop, just plug it in (so that you don't even have to move it anywhere), and God forbid, somewhere in the drawer, that's all .. I won't use it .. or very rarely. I will be too lazy to take it out every time, fold it and put it back. But if the combine, for example, is on the tabletop, I use it regularly. Therefore, I would measure the length of the worktop with the width of the device line. which must be put on it and the number of sockets for them. I now have a cartoon, a blender with a leg, a juicer, a sandwich maker on one line of the tabletop in a row. All plugged in even (4 sockets in one frame). On the second countertop there is a microwave oven, a food processor, an electric kettle (there are only two sockets, a kettle and a microwave oven are always in the outlet, I plug the harvester by pulling out the kettle's plug from the outlet). On the dining table, I have a large table, there is a pancake, next to the outlet (I thought about mesat for more when planning the kitchen))))). Out of work was the slicer that I really wanted .. which folds into a book. So he is in the sight of a book and lies in a drawer, I'm too lazy to take it out.
Py. sy. And at the same time everyone, I personally ooooochen like an absolutely empty work surface, so that nothing stands. But for me this is still out of reach, because it is impractical.
Vinochek
and let's not just give us a list of BT, but right on the plan (which I like better) will ellanna mark where and what will she have? you can just letters. So everything will be visible - is there enough space or you need to look for it. Or maybe she decides to hide most of the equipment in lockers and take it out if necessary?
When planning the kitchen, I calculated where and what I would put. From this I danced, not forgetting what else I want to buy. And also where should I put dishes, forks, knives, so that it is convenient to get them.
azaza
Gipsy, I look at the diagram again, and I don't see those two free meters that you are talking about.
Kamusik, what does the exhibition hall have to do with it? It's about an elementary cooking place! Even if you keep the devices somewhere in the lockers, then when cooking they will have to be taken out and put somewhere... Although the pleasure is dubious to drag back and forth, but you're right - how many people, so many opinions. I would have thought a thousand times before pulling out some device from the store, and most likely I would have done without it. But that's me. And if it is convenient for someone ... Please, why not.
The man himself asked for criticism. Perhaps the criticism meant “praise me, I’ve come up with a better designer, right? Or perhaps the person really feels that something is wrong.
Scarlett
Quote: Kamusik

I would like not to intrusively add. Tan, you know how they say in our country? - how many doctors, so many opinions! Long away not everyone I like the whole arsenal of household appliances displayed on the work surface! If we talk about grandiose cooking, then you can set everything you need. But I am sure that this does not happen 24 hours a day. The kitchen is, of course, a place where food is prepared using BT (for which we purchase it), but not at all an exhibition hall! IMHO.
I am also a supporter of clean countertops, so I put everything in drawers. Getting them out of there is no problem for me. Above most often there is a cartoon, but if I don't use it (although this rarely happens), I hide it.Somewhere before, they exhibited household appliances hiding behind doors such as blinds - that's for me. Otherwise - a feeling of chaos. I and kitchen things that serve as decor, I use to a minimum. But that's just my opinion.
azaza
Quote: makabusha

If my kitchen unit is not on the countertop, just plug it in (so that you don't even have to move it anywhere), and God forbid, somewhere in the drawer, that's all .. I won't use it .. or very rarely. I will be too lazy to take it out every time, fold it and put it back.
Absolutely about me
Only I would add this: it is necessary to organize the place not for the equipment that is now, but taking into account the fact that after a while something new and extremely necessary may appear.
Scarlett, I love empty countertops too. Therefore, one side of the kitchen I have a cooking zone, all the most popular units (MV, SV, AG, coffee maker) are stationary there, and the opposite is pristine (except for the harvester lurking on the side). This is the pre-preparation area for food In this case, the mixer and blender, although hidden from view, are: not far away - once; and at any second ready to go - two. All equipment, like that of Macabushi, is constantly connected to the sockets, you just need to click the individual button to connect to the network. Only the yogurt maker, pancake maker and contact grill have to be taken out as needed, but again they are hidden very close by, close at hand. And most importantly, they are small and light, they are easy to get. But for a bread maker or a pressure cooker, I would not be able to climb into the closet every time. Yes, my back would have broken such a weight to carry back and forth, especially a pressure cooker and AH!

In principle, we have already thrown so many opinions here that poor Ellana, I'm afraid, is no longer happy that she asked her advice to decide. Only she herself knows what is more convenient for her. We offered our vision of her kitchen, and the key word is her.
Creamy
Girls, what a convenient kitchen Kubanochki! There is a kitchen for all kitchens. It's true, 25 meters, if I'm not mistaken. And how rationally everything is thought out, it is clear that the hostess uses all the achievements of modern kitchen technology and at the same time respects, protects and values ​​her time and health, which cannot but cause sincere admiration and respect. There, the hostess, as the commander-in-chief, sees everything at once, what is on the left front, what is on the right, what is in the rear, and what to throw on the front line.
Or maybe the problem of excessive glazing is easy to solve - replace ordinary glasses in the kitchen with mirrors? From the windows of the kitchen, the owners will see both the garden and the panorama, but prying eyes will not see how the kitchen furniture is placed, it (the furniture) can even stand by the window!
ellanna
Quote: yulyax

This is how you can do 🔗

This is what I would like, but you cannot put the stove and hood on the window ...

And a small window is needed for communication with the courtyard and the gazebo in the summer.
ellanna
Quote: azaza

I've already said: at least 2.5 m for equipment and at least 1.5 m for cutting. This is the very minimum when you can work calmly, but at the same time dream of freedom.

I used to have less, and I always had a problem where to store everything ... Therefore, the first task was the storage system.
And another question, how to run along these 2.5 m under the equipment + sink + stove + oven.

I still have doubts about the oven under the hob or at eye level. The furniture maker says that it is convenient when the pots in the drawer are 90 cm directly under the stove, and somewhere I read that a lot of dirt falls there. It's true? And who has the oven up? Is it convenient enough to change everything like that?
alenka_volga
Quote: ellanna

I used to have less, and I always had a problem where to store everything ... Therefore, the first task was the storage system.
And another question, how to run along these 2.5 m under the equipment + sink + stove + oven.

I still have doubts about the oven under the hob or at eye level. The furniture maker says that it is convenient when the pots in the drawer are 90 cm directly under the stove, and somewhere I read that a lot of dirt falls there. It's true? And who has the oven up? Is it convenient enough to change everything like that?
I have 3 drawers under the hob, nothing falls there, and why should it fall? they are closed!
Vinochek
if I put myself an oven, then at eye level. And so I decided that MV and micros with convection will be enough for me.
yulyax
Quote: ellanna

This is what I would like, but you cannot put the stove and hood on the window ...

And a small window is needed for communication with the courtyard and the gazebo in the summer.
Well, the stove and the hood can be left on that surface where they are, and there will simply be a countertop where you can cook food, for example.
I also really liked this option, though I don't know how to do everything at home ... It turns out now only one wall is occupied, and the second is completely naked, there is now the trash lying partially in the corner, I really want to remove everything and make it somehow beautifully cozy that would be convenient and comfortable. And it turns out a bunch of places, but there is no place to cook. The equipment is on the floor)))
ellanna
Quote: gypsy

Option 2.
Furniture for kitchen

A good option. The question is not in the couch, it basically does not exist ... and it is not known or will be. Yes, for a husband you need a green one with thorns to do something around the house.

It's easy for my husband ... We have only two rooms, so the kitchen will be our habitat with my husband.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
azaza
Quote: ellanna

but how to run along these 2.5 m under the equipment + sink + stove + oven.
Ellanna, I'm not trying to persuade! I make a rationalization proposal, but how to do it - it's up to you to decide.
About running. Yes, no running around! Everything is very strictly divided into zones, right down to the tea and coffee corner: everything you need is concentrated on one square foot (plus or minus, because I did not measure the area and did not translate it into feet). And so as not to wander back and forth through the whole kitchen (how it sounds, well, how does it sound !!! with my 8 squares) - I have duplicated everything that may be needed in either zone: spices, rast. oil, spoons and other little things. Thus: my products, right there, next to the sink, the cutting area. Without running anywhere, I prepare products for heat treatment. Prepared - passed once on the other side (as many as two steps in my conditions), and cook for my own pleasure. In the sense: I threw everything over the saucepans, added what I needed (again, everything is at hand, no need to run to the first side), pressed the buttons, and ... went into virtual. So absolutely no running around. You just need to think carefully about what should be where, so that it is convenient for you to use it, making as little body movements as possible when cooking. As for me, you need to be guided precisely by the subsequent convenience for many years until the next repair, and not by the fact that a multicooker can fit here, and even though it is not at all convenient, the main thing is that you can stick it here.
The only inconvenience in my kitchen is that the refrigerator is located far from the sink, on the opposite wall, in the cooking area. He didn't want to fit in next to the sink. So if you count all your body movements, then you first need to get the food out of the refrigerator and transfer it to the pre-preparation area. But this is a minimal inconvenience, I can put up with it.
azaza
Quote: yulyax

And it turns out a bunch of places, but there is no place to cook. The equipment is on the floor)))
And how is it? Is it convenient when you have to drag the equipment to the table every time? And getting it out of the cupboard is even more difficult than just from the floor. As for me, this is categorically
This is not a trick. This is what I mean when planning. But this, of course, is very individual: for someone empty countertops are more important, and a person is ready to carry the units if necessary. Honor and praise to him for that! Others are lazy, and if the technology is not at hand, they simply will not use it. And, alas, there are many lazy people around. But laziness is known to be the engine of progress.
azaza
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Kubanochka's kitchen
Yes, Kubanochka's kitchen is something. But you, Ksun, would not be shy, you have a kitchenette too uhh There is where to turn around, and it is wisely planned. Tell the person what is more important in a large kitchen.
ellanna
Quote: azaza


The man himself asked for criticism.Perhaps the criticism meant “praise me, I’ve come up with a better designer, right? Or perhaps the person really feels that something is wrong.

It was the critics, for example, that I forgot about the electric kettle, in fact I hoped that within the space the stove would go somewhere else. And where the stove is, you can leave the combine on the slave. surface and somehow close it with sliding doors, so that when you don't need a white wall and a mustache ...

ellanna
Quote: Kamusik

not a showroom! IMHO.

I'm also not very much for the ice cream or the waffle iron on the table. I'm more of an accessible storage system. And then everything was thrown on the refrigerator before.

Kenwood chief - I think he will be standing on the countertop near the sink.
Quote: azaza
But then 19 sq. m !!!
18 m

And the table is so - for visualization to the husband. That even the street one, which stands there, fits ... In general, there is a maximum of 1.20, folding.
ellanna
Quote: Creamy

Girls, what a convenient kitchen Kubanochki! There is a kitchen for all kitchens. It's true, 25 meters, if I'm not mistaken.

I saw, I didn't like it, the real showroom, unfortunately, is not mine. I would like everything to be hidden, if necessary, easily accessible, for example, a yoghurt maker is connected right in the closet, etc.

I have a panic on Saturday the masters come to plaster .. soon the sockets will be brought in, the sewer system will again be moved from the small window back in the middle ... I am afraid to torture them with alterations. We must solve everything now.

ideas to remodel windows are not accepted, because I myself designed them with my husband.
lunova-moskalenko
Oh, what a debate here. But I agree with Tanya (Azaza) and Makabushi. Well, I bought myself a harvester for the last New Year Bosch, and due to lack of space, if I used it for the whole year, God forbid, three times, I'm too lazy to get it out, assemble and disassemble it. It was easier for me to tyrannize on the grater. Therefore, he lives with me now on the loggia in a box. For myself, I decided that even though I will not have 2.5 meters for devices, but the harvester, multi, HP, and the pressure cooker will stand in plain sight after the repair, even if someone considers it bragging. But of course, for example, a yogurt maker, mixers and blenders in a cupboard, they are easier to get. I have almost 3 meters on one side of the kitchen, but there is also a hob and a corner sink, but on the other side there is only a little more than a meter, and there I am planning to make a cutting table. And leave a micra on the wall above it. Eh, when will I do all this?
Scarlett
Quote: ellanna

I still have doubts about the oven under the hob or at eye level. The furniture maker says that it is convenient when the pots in the drawer are 90 cm directly under the stove, and somewhere I read that a lot of dirt falls there. It's true? And who has the oven up? Is it convenient enough to change everything like that?
Do not even hesitate - it's just super convenient! I have it like this - I sit like a cat in front of the microwave, watching the pies-biscuits-meat rise-blush
Creamy
Girls, we've already advised a lot ellanna, gave their thoughts, experience, examples of the arrangement of other kitchens. A lot of information, ellanna it is difficult to digest everything at once and critically comprehend. It just takes time. And one should not forget that the world is colorful and we are all different people. The kitchen of 19 meters with an area is simply gorgeous in the sense of the opportunities provided by this area, and trying on such a kitchen on the basis of our experience, we sincerely wish the hostess the best possible arrangement. But our inclinations and experience may be different. Personally, in the new kitchen, I tore out and changed countertops three times, changed sinks three times, moved and moved modules, built in a dishwasher and replaced the fronts a year ago. I do everything to make it as comfortable as possible. And what to do - "experience is the son of difficult mistakes", but I study with pleasure.
Vinochek
Quote: ellanna


I have a panic on Saturday masters come to plaster ..Soon the sockets will be brought in, the sewage system will again be moved from the small window back in the middle ... I'm afraid to torture them with alterations. We must solve everything now.

I tortured my own)))) here we do, here we do not do it, but here we will redo it, but here we forgot)))). Now the plaster is drying, but I already know that one outlet needs to be moved. So don't panic! After plastering, you can still do everything, then carefully plaster the seam and mustache yourself). But there will be time to think again globally.
azaza
Quote: nvk

But of course, for example, a yogurt maker, mixers and blenders in a cupboard, they are easier to get.
I just wanted to say, and then Nadia hurried up.
That's it! These are two big differences: take out a light yogurt maker from the cabinet, or a pressure cooker / bread maker / multicooker / airfryer. You can't even equalize! Therefore, everything small and light in my cabinets is crammed, and the large is in plain sight. But these are by no means exhibition specimens, this is what I use very actively.
Creamy: "experience is the son of difficult mistakes." It is, yes, but in terms of repair, this experience turns out to be too expensive both in money and in physical terms. Therefore, it is better to think it over a hundred thousand times, and only then call the craftsmen to start picking the sewers, electrics, etc.
Ellanna, have you and your husband just designed the windows, or have they already been installed? If only in the project, it is not too late to change the project if you find an error in it. Everything is easier and cheaper than remaking it later in a year, like Creamy.
Do not hurry!!! You still do not know what to put where, but the masters have already been called.
azaza
Quote: ellanna

At 8 meters ??? Duplicated. I used to have 8 ... some, there, at least once put ...
So my technique is not duplicated, but little things. I have a rail along the entire space, there are shelves on it. On the shelves are spices, little things, etc. In fact, this requires a minimum of space. More desire is needed than space. Just think carefully how it will be convenient - and for everything you can carve out a place even at 8 meters. As I say, I have enough space even to sit with friends. 5-6 people are accommodated quietly, while the hostess can easily move around the kitchen.
Do not hurry! Do not repeat the mistakes of Wreath and Creamy! Postpone the visit of the craftsmen - it will be cheaper than hammering the finished wall later.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: azaza

Yes, Kubanochka's kitchen is something. But you, Ksun, would not be shy, you have a kitchenette too uhh There is where to turn around, and it is wisely planned. Tell the person what is more important in a large kitchen.

Tanyush, I will not advise. I was worn out for a year, when everything (almost everything) stood on the tables + the window sill and removed to hell with it into the cupboard. Now beauty! I have 3.5 meters of working surface (this is without a cooker and a sink, I did not count them). A thermopot, a 40-second kettle and a small coffee maker are constantly in place. They take 55 cm. Everything. The rest is purity and emptiness. All that I need during cooking (in the sense of technique) I take out of the cabinets. It's more comfortable for me. I have a certain place where HP stands when the dough is kneading. The locations for MV and SV are also specific. I do not look for a corner for them every time. My mixer always works in one place. And so on. For almost 2 years that I have been living in this kitchen, we have got used to it, have become akin to it and understand each other without words. Until you yourself "give birth" in this matter, there will be no sense.
Creamy
Well Creamy Don't feed it with bread, just give me something to be repaired. I’m probably crazy. but I love doing repairs, including global ones. And, really, I don’t regret money for this business, because we do it for ourselves!
lunova-moskalenko
I, too, am not in a hurry to make repairs in the kitchen for now. It's just that from the side of the kitchen I actually have the third floor, and the kitchen window is between two loggias, mine and the neighbor's. So there it is possible to make the kitchen like a balcony by another 2-3 meters. Therefore, I'm waiting for the neighbors from below to decide on their construction site, if I join them, or if I'm already on piles myself.And then in my 8.9 squares there will be a dining area and an additional free area for brand new devices and a freezer.
Kamusik
Quote: ellanna

I'm more of an accessible storage system.

That's exactly what I like! For this, I made a specially separate cabinet where everything is stored, even in the old kitchen, I hid it in the pantry. Moreover, I store BT with all kinds of attachments (accessories) in boxes, so that it does not lie on all the boxes, shelves. Yes, Lena's everything is neat! But there is an area ... And, if, on our 8-10m all this is put up ... The only thing that, in my opinion, is not subject to discussion is the oven at eye level (super convenient!)! , again this is all IMHO.
Vinochek
Quote: azaza

Do not hurry! Do not repeat the mistakes of Wreath and Creamy! Postpone the visit of the craftsmen - it will be cheaper than hammering the finished wall later.
how to say. While the plaster is dry (do we want mold?), There will be time to think over everything in detail and figure it out on the spot.
I know that it is necessary to move the outlet, because only recently (after test flights) I was convinced that I do not need an oven. I will either muffle this outlet or move it 50 cm to the left and make it in the lower cabinet (maybe I'll put it there for a yogurt maker or HP, I don't know yet, I think). I have several spare outlets - for example, for a food chopper - I don't know if I will, but I have included them in the plan.
azaza
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

All that I need during cooking (in the sense of technique) I take out of the cabinets. It's more comfortable for me.
Well, here's another confirmation that all people are different. And I would not have been driven into the kitchen if I had to pull the appliances out of the cupboards every time. And a sore back is not an excuse: if it were healthy, I would still be too lazy to pull the units out into the light of day. On the contrary, I enjoy the fact that everything is ready for work at any time. At the same time, there is no tolkonti on the countertops, everything is arranged freely, nothing interferes with anything. It's a thrill for me. And there is also an empty tabletop - opposite the working area. And it turns out to be comfortable for me both there and there.
Ellanna, nobody knows you better than you. Do for yourself. Listen to yourself: will it be more convenient for you to carry the equipment out of the closet, or is it more convenient to use it when it is at hand. We do not care here whose opinion you listen to. It is important that you feel comfortable. It is important that you are not nervous in the kitchen, because the hostess spends almost half of her life in the kitchen. If the kitchen annoys you, you can hardly consider yourself an absolutely happy person.
The main thing is not to rush !!!
argo
azaza, Creamy, Ksyusha-girls ... could you show your kitchens ... how is everything arranged with you? otherwise my head is already spinning (and that one is right .. and this one), I don't know what to choose: pardon: if you can of course ..
azaza
Quote: Vinochek

how to say.
God grant that this was the only mistake! And if it did not come out now, when it can still be fixed (but it is always worse to fix it than to do it right at once), and when it is already painted, the tiles are laid or I do not know what is planned there. That is why I say that there is no need to rush. Or am I wrong, and still need to hurry?
Well, it's good that Creamy likes to do alterations, and most importantly, there is enough money and funds for all these alterations. And I will honestly say: I’ll hardly mature into a new kitchen in the next 10 years. I can't afford to redo it every year. But if this is a thrill for someone - so make God happy, I will only be happy for the person!
azaza
Quote: Argo

azaza, Creamy, Ksyusha-girls ... could you show your kitchens ... how is everything arranged with you? otherwise my head is already spinning (and that one is right .. and this one), I don't know what to choose: pardon: if you can of course ..
Here is Ksyushkina: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1366.0
Looking for mine.
Creamy
Any competent project or repair, and even more so a kitchen, should begin with the fact that an experienced electrician first calculates the design consumption of electricity / energy of existing kitchen appliances, and even has to add power for the future, and only after that begins to draw a wiring diagram and location sockets at the proposed locations for kitchen appliances. Then the strobing and editing begins. And only then the plasterers begin to work.
Vinochek
Quote: Creamy

according to the proposed locations of kitchen appliances.
that's it! supposed! and everything is impossible to assume.Therefore, if time is running out, then do it now as in the best option, and then think again and mentally put everything in its place. Do not forget, as Creamy correctly said, about the power of devices.
I also have a bunch of machines.

They drove me around the electrical and water supply system at home. They gave me a couple of days to think (who remembers, they drew the bathroom-toilet together). Then, in the end, on the electrician, they completed it a little before the plaster, and the washer was moved)))). And now they put up a ladder and realized that they had not foreseen a light bulb under it (there is simply a pantry asking for it!). It's good that there is a box next to it - we will stretch it from there.
Gypsy
Quote: ellanna

And there is nowhere to put the devices. My husband and I counted, we need a cutter from 30 in the kitchen.
ellanna, you hide the sockets in a niche that covers the countertop from guests, in it, in this niche, there are a bread maker, a rice cooker, a combine and so on. (measure the height of the tallest unit). It is necessary to use it - they pulled the equipment out onto the tabletop. No need - they hid it back in a niche, and you can close it with primitive doors on runners.
As I understand it, this is not a kitchen room, you have a living room + a kitchen + a dining room, that is, there is also a place to rest. Even if the entire room is devoted to the kitchen and cooking, it is not in the hallway to feed the guests and the family. It is necessary to arrange so that the sheep are safe and the wolves are fed. Since you and your husband also need a place from the children, then plan a sofa (maybe even a folding one) and a bigger TV set in front We put something to cook on the stove, lay down on the sofa and watched the movie. You will immediately hear and see it will run away from the pan.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
My kitchen from multiple angles
argo
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argo
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My kitchen from multiple angles

thank you! liked! how many meters?
ellanna
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

My kitchen from multiple angles
Loved the brickwork and loved the white countertop and white work wall. Well orange is cool!

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