Thermomix (discussion and feedback)

Marina! And at what speed did you boil the water?

on a spoon. Which one is better?

It's just that your indicators are suspicious, but they could not measure what your initial water temperature is. We have already conducted this experiment comparing it with MK, the time was 8 and a half minutes, and you already have 13 !!!! Try to set Varoma speed to speed 3.

no, the lower the speed, the faster it boils!

In general, the debt is 13 minutes. It's kind of more powerful from the old model.

Proficus boils for 10 minutes, if I'm not mistaken. Need to check.

1-2 speed is excluded, these are speeds for slow heating, as the instructions say.

In TM31 speed 3, temperature VAROM - boil in 8 minutes?
I'll try and unsubscribe then.

[Pchela maja]

Pchela maja, we tested on a spoon.

[sk. 3 + 120 degrees]

I repeated the experiment with a liter of water. Time to reach temperature ^

sk. 3 + 120 degrees / sc. 3+ Varoma / sc. spoon + Varoma

45grad - 2:40 / not change / 2:32
50grad - 3:10 / not change / 3:04
60grad - 4:20 / 3:52 / 4:10
70grad- 5:30 / 5:10 / 5:20
80grad - 6:50 / 6:25 / 6:17
95grad - 9:00 / 8:30 / 8:00 boiled
That is, it heats up a little faster on Varoma. Moreover, what is strange, at first the TM heats up rather quickly, and after 80 degrees it heats longer.

Compare with the selen's experiment

Masinen, Mash, (ice water from the tap 1 liter) on my TM set 10 minutes. t * -varoma, sc. 3. Has it boiled when there was 1 minute 19 seconds left until the end, that is, it turns out 8 minutes 40 seconds? Just 1 minute more? check tomorrow on yours)))

[Laslovna]

Laslovna, but my instructions say: "speeds 2 and 3 are used for gentle heating. When these speeds are selected, t is recruited slowly, which leads to gentle cooking"

Added sc data to the table. spoon and varome. It turns out that on a spoon heats up faster to a boil.

Now I realized why I was warming for so long for the first time. I did not set the time, I set the temperature to 100 degrees and the speed 3.
I see something is wrong. And then the prompt "set the time" pops up. I immediately set the time - 15 minutes and the temperature immediately began to gain. Until that time, apparently he did not heat, he just stirred.

Well, it looks like the truth! What interests me is, what is the temperature under the name Varoma in TM 5? It turns out more than 120 degrees !!!!!

I need a cooking thermometer while I plan to buy it.
But my water is boiling at 95 degrees.

[varome]

It turns out more than 120 degrees !!!!!

Water does not rise to 120 degrees without pressure (maybe it does not rise with pressure), just at any other temperature it heats up to the set value and the TM turns off, cools down below the permissible level, it turns on heating again, and on varome, for better steam formation, it heats up constantly, higher temperatures for sautéing and browning.

Today I baked a honey-lemon cake for the first time in the form of a honeycomb


In the next. once I will apply a little bit and knock, apply and knock on the advice of Mikhaska Irina.
But I really liked the form itself !!!)
Instead of glaze, I twisted half of the lemon with honey and heated it, it turned out to be a thick sweet and sour gruel.

[Pchela maja]

Pchela maja, and you were offered to buy chips with recipes, I wonder how much they cost? Another interesting thing, but knives for 31 and 5 are the same or different in size, no one knows?

[Asya Klyachina]

Asya Klyachina, I had one chip in a set with a big green book (i.e. all the recipes from this book on this chip).
And now they have a new book being prepared for release, and after a while (it takes up to 9 months, as they said), it will be on a chip in Russian.
That is, I think so by the end of the year.
Bowl 5 is slightly larger, perhaps the knife is just a little larger, you need to measure it.)
You can still compare. watch video, I laid out a couple of pages before.

By the way, in the kitchen. the technique was added by three TM models)

[TS06101964]

TS06101964, Tatyana, the ice cream really turned out delicious.

Tatyana, I am very glad, with this ice cream I make milkshakes

Girls and maybe boys! Please tell me which elements in the device are made of plastic from those that come into contact with food. You can't understand from the photo: is it plastic or something else

[IRRI]

IRRI, plastic inner basket, butterfly, lid and in new models a steam basket (by the way, I have it, too, from stainless steel). And so, a stainless steel bowl and knife.

[during heating]

Thank you! It's sad ... Plastic is everywhere: in Thermomixes in Maikuk and in Proficuke and in Moulinex CUISINE COMPANION

Although I probably did not quite correctly formulate the question, I will ask again to be sure:
Please tell me which elements in the device are made of plastic from those that come into contact with food during heating?
About the steamer - I understood, therefore I need an older model - with met. steamer, and about the rest:
I need a device like the Thermomix, but with all the stainless steel elements that are involved in cooking with heating. If you just knead, beat, etc., without heating, then I have nothing against plastic.

[IRRI]

IRRI, do not use the inner basket and you will not have plastic when heated. The bowl itself is stainless steel.

[IRRI]

IRRI, and what scares plastic?
He's special here, odorless.

I need a device like the Thermomix, but with all stainless steel elements

TM 21 is made of stainless steel, except for the lid, and the basket and varom

[IRRI]

IRRI, do not use the inner basket and you will not have plastic when heated. The bowl itself is stainless steel.

Thank you! And what will stir? For example, when cooking semolina?

IRRI, and what scares plastic?
He's special here, odorless.

Plastic scares me with plastic itself
In general, I practically do not believe in food, and even heating plastic - for nothing. I already wrote about it a couple of times somewhere on HP: I have a grandmother, Ph. n, and not just an employee, but from among scientific inventors, that is, at the forefront of science and all research in this area, full of patents, etc., worked all her life with fluoroplastics and plastics. Therefore, in our house, plastic was practically banned.
But non-stick pans appeared before anyone else in our country, even before I was born - in the 70s, from experimental parties, because my grandmother just "invented" these non-stick coatings, they somehow managed to get something even cooler than DuPont (with they competed) and they were invited by Dupont several times, my grandmother went "to exchange experience."

+ her husband's aunt is also k. x. n. and absolutely agrees with my position + she is sincerely scared when someone tries to bake something in juice bags, etc. I am also very scared of such really poisonous recipes. But this is a departure from the topic.

About "living so badly" - I know, I try not to aggravate

Therefore, I want a device where all the elements are made of stainless steel (it is possible with silicone), if this is impossible, then, at least where all the elements that come into contact with food when it is heated are made of stainless steel.
As a last resort, I agree with HotmixPro, but again I don’t know about his plastic.

So far I haven't read anything thoroughly, only this morning I realized that I need it

And what will stir?

Stir with a stainless steel knife.

For example, when cooking semolina?

specifically, the semolina should be stirred with a plastic "butterfly".

[IRRI]

IRRI, well then look at Avito Thermomix 21.
But the butterfly will still be made of plastic

[IRRI]

TM 21 is made of stainless steel, except for the lid, and the basket and varom

Thank you! That's better. What about a stirrer (I don't know what to call it correctly) during cooking?

Apd. While I was writing, I already received answers

Stir with a stainless steel knife.
specifically, the semolina should be stirred with a plastic "butterfly".

Okay, I'll do without semolina, I rarely cook it and they get fat from it

IRRI, well then look at Avito Thermomix 21.
But the butterfly will still be made of plastic

Thank you, then I'll do it

In a whisper: but no one knows about HotmixPro, what if everything is made of stainless steel for such and such money? (or kick where to go with this question)

[Omela]

Omela, Little one, I think I mean a butterfly)
Or not?)

No, well, I wrote that the semolina - with a butterfly, the rest - with knives.

specifically, the semolina should be stirred with a plastic "butterfly".

I cook semolina porridge from a liter of milk only with knives, excellent porridge, butterfly only for beating eggs, cream, mayonnaise

I cook semolina porridge from a liter of milk only with knives, excellent porridge, butterfly only for beating eggs, cream, mayonnaise

so ... you don't have to raise the purchase price to HotmixPro Gastro, because then it turns out that plastic is used only for "cold" processing of food
Do I understand correctly that 21 no longer do and I need Avito?
Already went to watch

So I understand that they no longer do 21 and I need Avito.

Stainless steel bowls and knives in all models. In the 21st there is an additional bowl and varoma.

[IRRI]

IRRI, and you are not afraid of plastic bags, pens and folders. they release monomers even at room temperature.

By the way, I also didn't understand why it was impossible to make a stainless steel steamer in a Thermomix in the latest models, or at least so that people had a choice.
Moreover, the price of the issue is simply cheap compared to the price of the entire device.
The Germans are very concerned about the environmental friendliness of everything that surrounds them, and many would still choose stainless steel.
Although I admit that someone likes a plastic double boiler more, someone wrote about it in the topic, but I don't remember.

Although I admit that someone likes a plastic double boiler more, someone wrote about it in the topic, but I don't remember.

I don't remember, maybe I wrote, but I definitely like the plastic steamer more, especially the small one inside. Mom in 21st has everything made of stainless steel, I can't even wash it, it's annoying. I am sure that plastic is safe here precisely because:

Germans are very concerned about the environmental friendliness of everything that surrounds them

I also hope so, they are unlikely to poison themselves in the long run.
In the end, plastic is plastic, but if even some joints are used in surgery, then there is also not harmful plastic.
This is me soothing myself.
🔗

[IRRI]

IRRI, and you are not afraid of plastic bags, pens and folders. they release monomers even at room temperature.

Well, why are you so cocky?
To avoid holivar, I immediately wrote:

About "living so badly" - I know, I try not to aggravate

She described in detail why I do not want plastic, because Maria asked me about it.

Everyone has their own priorities, everyone chooses based on their needs, needs and limitations. I have such as I wrote, so I turned for advice. I don’t convert anyone into my "faith"

And about the use of plastic: when heated, plastic behaves very differently than at room temperature, which is why I try to avoid contact between heated plastic and food.

The main thing: I got the answer to my question, thank you very much to everyone who helped! And then I already decided to go broke on an expensive Gastro

Regarding washing: I will wash in the dishwasher, so I will definitely not get irritated

Girls, and someone can poke me into a comparison of 21 and 31 cars, was it? What is the difference? Scales are not of interest, I usually cook by eye, and there are some.

the most important difference for me is the availability of reverse in 31 models, i.e. stirring with the blunt side of the knives, the minimum temperature is 40 and 37 degrees, the rest is not important

[40]

minimum temperature 40 and 37 degrees,

Hope, 37-50 degrees.

I don’t know, for all my phobias I would not buy such an ancient model. And how to repair, spare parts will be tortured to wait. IMHO

In addition to the previous message. As far as I understood correctly, in 21 models and in the earliest versions, the 31st bowl could not be washed in the dishwasher and even the knife had to be washed by holding it vertically under running water.
I wash the cup myself by hand, it's easy for me.
And the second moment, 21 has long been removed from the production, there is a risk that in a couple of years it will be problematic to get parts for repair. The 31st is also no longer produced, but components will be available for it for another ten years.

[Ksyusha]

Ksyusha, in TM 21 minimum 40, in TM 31 minimum 37 (at a temperature of 37, supposedly melted chocolate does not lose its shine)

[Hope]

Hope, ahh, I didn’t understand .. I thought you were writing a temperature step about 31.

Thank you! It's sad ... Plastic is everywhere: in Thermomixes in Maikuk and in Proficuke and in Moulinex CUISINE COMPANION
Maikuk has an inner basket and a stainless steel steam basket, note!

Girls, ah Libra Has anyone repaired at TMchik? And in general, what were the repairs and how much did it take? I called the Moscow office, they told me that the master is on vacation and only he can appreciate it. They (we?) Have one for the whole of Moscow

Their ring is 800 rubles. worth .., the bowl in all ammunition is 18 thousand

[Olya]

Olya, what did you buy a broken one?

[Masha]

Masha, I found a second-hand TMchik "inexpensive", but the scales do not work for him, so I wonder if they can be repaired and how long such repairs will last, a convenient function, not necessary of course, but very pleasant.

[Olya]

Olya, I would not buy a defective device.
The repair is expensive at the Thermomix. Didn't they drop it? In general, it is very strange, for the first time I hear that the scales do not work.

Masha, I would not have become earlier, but after the almost simultaneous purchase of two Kesh, the family budget became somewhat emaciated, and you are notable seductresses .. so you got sick with it. I persuaded myself to Proficuk, but at the last moment I canceled the order, because I want exactly TM, so I began to look at used units, especially since now many people want a new model and sell their "old" ones. And about the scales, on the contrary, several times I met reviews that they break, but there is no need for someone to repair them. It seems to me even on our forum they wrote.