Pchela maja
Quote: ZlataUlya
And there are no delivery options except through conductors?
And in Germany 1109 euros is a new model.
In Russia, the old one also had a high price, until a new one appeared.
You will probably have the same. I would wait a little longer and buy a used one with a guarantee, either an old model (cheaper) or a new one.
They are really reliable cars and very comfortable, but you can run into a defective batch.
Why do you need these risks?
Well, or catch it on Avito and then quickly look for a person who agrees to buy and send / transfer with a guide.
ZlataUlya
On Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com forum users are definitely one of the most responsive and benevolent

The amount is huge for me. From kitchen devices, I have a Panasonic SR-TMJ181 multicooker, a Braun blender and a fruit and vegetable dryer. There is no oven (I replace it with a multicooker as much as I can), the stove is ancient, since the time the house was put into operation. Therefore, I pin great hopes on the device.

They offer me here for the same money as to take the TM-31 Multikuk. With a guarantee (service centers close by), you can go to feel and learn how to use. I'm thinking. Very tempting. You should probably go to the appropriate topic, ask around about Multikuk.

Asya Klyachina, Rada-dms, girls, you wanted, in my opinion, Multikuk first? But you don't seem to have bought it, why?
Pchela maja
And what kind of Multikuk? I only know ave Maikuk.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=409735.0
Oksana, a top-starter, had a thermomix and a mikuk, she eventually sold the mikuk.
marlanca
ZlataUlya,
On Facebook there is a whole group called "Cooking at home, like in the best restaurant" according to Multikuk with many recipes, girls are mainly from Ukraine, go in - read ..., the recipes are very similar to TM ....
ZlataUlya
Marina, thanks, for sure - Maikuk, described

Sold? If not a secret, then why? (I don't know if Oksana herself comes into the topic?)

And I seemed to be inclined to buy it
marlanca
ZlataUlya,
Angelina described herself, the robot is called supercook, outwardly very good. looks like Maikook ....
ZlataUlya
Galina, I misspelled the title and misled everyone

I would like to know about Maikuk. It was offered to me as an alternative to TM.
ZlataUlya
Oh, those robots. And the names are similar. So we get confused
marlanca
Angelina,
So you write Oksana LS, she will tell you everything according to Maikuk ...
ZlataUlya
Galina, thank you for the hint!

I'll try to knock on Oksana's ...
ZlataUlya
Oksana is silent while ...

It turns out there is no one else to ask about Maikuk and Thermomix in comparison

I would like to know the opinion of real users, otherwise I have only talked with the girls-distributors of Thermomix and Maikuk so far.

The amount is such that you really choose a nursing cow, not otherwise. I can wait. For several months now I have been reading topics about kitchen assistants. But I don’t have any other similar devices, and I really want to start using it and enjoy it. You are very tempting to describe their capabilities.
ZlataUlya
Maria, Masinen, I read.
And I got the opinion that Oksana, Laslovna, is happy with her Maikuk. But it turns out she sold it. So I thought hard
liliya72
Quote: ZlataUlya

On Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com forum users are definitely one of the most responsive and benevolent

The amount is huge for me. From kitchen devices, I have a Panasonic SR-TMJ181 multicooker, a Braun blender and a fruit and vegetable dryer. There is no oven (I replace it with a multicooker as much as I can), the stove is ancient, since the time the house was put into operation. Therefore, I pin great hopes on the device.

They offer me here for the same money as to take the TM-31 Multikuk. With a guarantee (service centers close by), you can go to feel and learn how to use. I'm thinking. Very tempting. You should probably go to the appropriate topic, ask around about Multikuk.

Asya Klyachina, Rada-dms, girls, you wanted, in my opinion, Multikuk first? But you don't seem to have bought it, why?
TM is a great thing, but it won't replace the oven.
Helen
Quote: ZlataUlya
They offer me here for the same money as TM-31
Look at Avito:
Ad number: 582726931
Ad number: 588747163
Ad number: 585271447
selenа
Quote: liliya72
TM is a great thing, but it won't replace the oven.
He will not replace a frying pan, but should have
ZlataUlya
Quote: liliya72

TM is a great thing, but it won't replace the oven.
I understand that, of course. I just meant that you won't be overclocked when choosing dishes for cooking. Probably not quite out of place on the topic of Thermomix had
ZlataUlya
Quote: Helen3097

Look at Avito:
Ad number: 582726931
Ad number: 588747163
Ad number: 585271447

Thank you so much!
Hardly anyone wants to send it to Ukraine. And we have a completely different pricing policy.
Pchela maja
The last ad is very even, 35tr for the new TM 31st great price!
🔗
Helen
Quote: Pchela Maja
🔗
and I, for the same !!!
Rada-dms
ZlataUlya, I've been thinking about it for a year, but I have a lot of devices, I still can't choose MyCook, TM. MultiCook and Maikuk, it seems to me, are different devices.
For me, the thermomix wins only in terms of design so far, and, as it seems, takes up less space on the table.
So far I have decided to buy a new TM.
ZlataUlya
Rada-dms, in Ukraine the new TM is promised the most optimistic by the end of the year. And so they say that they are in no hurry to bring a new model to us

The 31st is now 1290 euros. Of course, your prices are much nicer (the girls above gave links to ads).

Maikuk's distributor girl described him very temptingly. I almost made up my mind. But I would like to know from Oksana, Laslovna, maybe there are real inconveniences in use, which the girl kept silent about, understandably. She needs to present her product in a favorable light. And I need to know that I will spend this money wisely and profitably.
selenа
Quote: ZlataUlya
I almost made up my mind. But I would like to ask Oksana, Laslovna, maybe there are real inconveniences in use,
Oksana had the opportunity to use both machines and she chose TM, and while she only had MayKook, he was quite happy with it, so that everything is learned by comparison, and if there is nothing to compare, then MayKook is very good
Pchela maja
Quote: ZlataUlya
in Ukraine, the new TM is promised the most optimistic by the end of the year. And so they say that they are in no hurry to bring a new model to us
You apparently have a lot of stock in the warehouse of the old model, which will have to be reduced in price if new ones are brought in.
Helen
ZlataUlyaAnd here's another, just recently put up for sale: 🔗
Rada-dms
Quote: ZlataUlya

Rada-dms, in Ukraine the new TM is promised the most optimistic by the end of the year. And so they say that they are in no hurry to bring a new model to us

The 31st is now 1290 euros. Of course, your prices are much nicer (the girls above gave links to ads).

Maikuk's distributor girl described him very temptingly. I almost made up my mind. But I would like to know from Oksana, Laslovna, maybe there are real inconveniences in use, which the girl kept silent about, understandably. She needs to present her product in a favorable light. And I need to know that I will spend this money wisely and profitably.
The right approach! We will wait for what Oksana will answer, you drop me a line too, otherwise I don't always see notifications!
ZlataUlya
Quote: Rada-dms

The right approach! We will wait for what Oksana will answer, you drop me a line too, otherwise I don't always see notifications!
Necessarily!
Masinen
And today with TMchik I quickly baked these bars))
He distanced the dough for me, kneaded the dough, and baked it in the oven)
I chase him, otherwise I stood motionless for three months)
Thermomix (discussion and feedback)
ZlataUlya
Quote: selenа

Oksana had the opportunity to use both machines and she chose TM, and while she only had MayKook, he was quite happy with it, so that everything is learned by comparison, and if there is nothing to compare, then MayKook is very good
Selena, Hope,
I agree completely.
Just because of the cost of the machine, I want to feel complete confidence in the correctness of the decision (I understand that it sounds like a utopia, but ...)
Bes7vetrov
Thermomix tm31 for 20,000 rubles.

593272746 ad number on avito

Asya Klyachina
Quote: ZlataUlya
But I would like to ask Oksana, Laslovna, maybe there are real inconveniences in using
I don't know about the inconvenience, just Oksana wrote to me in a personal message that TM has more opportunities to take it.
ZlataUlya
I envy your prices for good.

We have all advertisements for the sale of Thermomix only from representatives. The only one where they offer their boo, they have used it for 5 years, from a girl who is now engaged in Maykuks and sells her Thermomix

ZlataUlya
Quote: Asya Klyachina

I don’t know about the inconvenience, just Oksana wrote to me in a personal that TM has more opportunities to take it.

Thank you very much for sharing information.

I wonder awfully what specific possibilities are meant ... Lack of reverse on knives or something else
Pchela maja
Quote: ZlataUlya
It's awful interesting what specific features are meant ..
Have you read the thread about Maikuk? Oksana compares these two models there.
ZlataUlya
Quote: Pchela Maja

Have you read the thread about Maikuk? Oksana compares these two models there.

I read it.
It seemed that in general Oksana was pleased with Maikuk. Differences: no reverse, lower revs, bowl narrowed downwards. Less dough that can be kneaded in one go. But these are the differences. And the point was that Thermomix had more opportunities in comparison with Maikuk.
I'll go read it again. Maybe she missed something.
selenа
Angelina, they have the same opportunities, and both will cook, grind, whip and chop, but the presence of a reverse allows you to cook dumplings or fragile berries in a bowl without turning them into mashed potatoes, and higher revolutions will provide a finer grinding, so on trifles they are typed differences, but compared with 31, and model 5 is already significantly different
Rada-dms
Quote: selenа
5 model is already significantly different
And how is it different from 31? And what's the worst side?
selenа
Rada-dms, Ol, well, for the worse, it cannot be different by definition, the Germans do it, of course they have no global differences (well, there is some kind of induction, or in a bowl, like baking in a grill), but there are lovely differences for the better, well and the recipe gadget is cool too
Pchela maja
In my opinion, the reverse is already a fundamental difference.
If Maikuk had at least a protective overlay for knives, like Proficook, it would have been much easier.
And also, due to induction, Maikuk is noisier than Thermomix. And in terms of heating speed, it does not outperform TM5 with tenovy heating.
In any case, if I had a choice between TM 31 and Maikuk, I would probably still choose TM31 with Avito (for 35tr).
selenа
Quote: Pchela Maja
And in terms of heating speed, it does not outperform TM5 with tenovy heating.
He does not win against 31 either, we measured
Pchela maja
well, even more so ...
ZlataUlya
Quote: selenа

Angelina, they have the same opportunities, and both will cook, grind, whip and chop, but the presence of a reverse allows you to cook dumplings or fragile berries in a bowl without turning them into mashed potatoes, and higher revolutions will provide a finer grinding, so on trifles they are typed differences, but compared with 31, and model 5 is already significantly different

Hope,

Dumplings can be cooked in a slow cooker, I also cook soup in it. So the lack of reverse is, in principle, experienced in my case.

But a finer grind is already very important for me. One of the main requirements for the unit is the function of the mill. I will often grind grain, different nuts. I want to make different vegetable milk, that is, soybeans and chickpeas will need to be ground into flour as well. I also want to try to grind wheat sprouts into a homogeneous mass.
The dough for two adults and two children is enough for me and 500 grams. Here Maikuk suits me.

I do not consider the 5th model, because we will not have it very soon.
ZlataUlya
Quote: Pchela Maja

In my opinion, the reverse is already a fundamental difference.
If Maikuk had at least a protective overlay for knives, like Proficook, it would have been much easier.
And also, due to induction, Maikuk is noisier than Thermomix. And in terms of heating speed, it does not outperform TM5 with tenovy heating.
In any case, if I had a choice between TM 31 and Maikuk, I would probably still choose TM31 with Avito (for 35tr).
Marina,
In this situation, I would also definitely choose TM-31
But I have the opportunity to buy new TM-31 and Maikuk for 1290 euros and there is ONE only offer for TM-31 (used for about 5 years) for 39tr
selenа
Quote: ZlataUlya
But I have the opportunity to buy new TM-31 and Maikuk for 1290 euros
If you have such an opportunity and do not want to wait for the fifth model, then take the TM 31 unambiguously (new, with a guarantee). From personal experience, TM will not replace a grain mill (nuts, sprouts - no questions asked), but if the main requirement for you is the function of a mill (that is, constantly, once a day or two to grind grain, then it is better to buy a mill. It's a pity to use such an expensive, smart machine so primitive
Omela
Yes, I agree with the mill Or professional blender My last grinding ended with sharpening knives. (((
ZlataUlya
Grinding is just one of the functions I need. Very popular, but of course not the only necessary one. I don't have a ton of technology in my kitchen. Family of 4 people. Two children, whom of course you want to pamper with delicious and healthy dishes.
Separately, buy a mill with a professional blender (which is also not very cheap), highly specialized devices, there is no possibility.

Nadezhda, do you think that it is not worth taking the TM that you have been using for such a long time? Is it too risky?
The overpayment (if you know how much it costs in Russia) is of course very frustrating. The amount was accumulated and the waste will hit the family budget significantly. But in this case, of course, you must, of course, not chase savings, but make the right choice
selenа
Quote: ZlataUlya
Is it too risky?
there is no risk if it is purchased from your distributor, that is, you will have the opportunity to maintain it, and if repair is necessary, it all depends not on time, but on the intensity of the machine's operation, you can kill it in a year or in 10 years will be like new. the only thing I'm sure of TM is a reliable car and it has an easy repair (just a broken one is replaced with a new one)
In Russia, for officials, he also costs around 70 thousand, and on Avito for 30 and for 20 it's a lottery
ZlataUlya
Hope,
Thank you for talking with me. This is very supportive. And then I am already all exhausted from these torments of choice.
76tr (price for 31 TM in Ukraine) put pressure on the psyche powerfully
Rada-dms
ALL! I was tortured! Bought TM5! I sit and eat herculean porridge with a banana, and he plows: he cooks potatoes for me below and steamed vegetables for a new dish!
I am very glad that I waited for a new model - he gave an excellent answer to my quirk about the appearance of the technique - he is cool! And tips are needed and the book is good, and the pens close themselves so cool! But maybe this is the first euphoria from the purchase, but so far I really liked it.
selenа
Rada-dms, Olya: goody: congratulations

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