Pchela maja
Do you take the fifth model?
Ass
TM 31 is what model there is only one model in the office of this company. I don’t even know which one? I only know TM31.
Masinen
Marina, it turns out you pay money, but the car was not given to you or what?
Ass
No, only after a full redemption. Or they have banks that can cooperate through a bank, but this is extra interest. Therefore, I chose this payment method.
Pchela maja
Why can't you just save up and then redeem?

Maybe the euro will fall and the price will decrease during this time.
Ass
And they do not give a set price in euros, I take in tenge. 350000 tenge * 3.10 ruble exchange rate = 112900 rubles. I just give 16,000 rubles a month.
Masinen
Ass, Marin, I see. Yes, it would be very expensive with a bank.
But this is the expectation, I could not stand it)
Did they even give you a discount on TM31?
Ass
There are no discounts, if I take cash at once, then 2 booklets with recipes as a gift.
Masinen
Quote: Ass
And they do not give a set price in euros, I take in tenge. 350000 tenge * 3.10 ruble exchange rate = 112900 rubles. I just give 16,000 rubles a month.
Stunned, how expensive !!!!
Pchela maja
How expensive is it! new model 5 now costs 98.500 =, and 31, (discontinued) 85.000 =
These are the official prices.
Ass
oooo my God, there is still another more recent model turns out ???
Masinen
Marina, and bring it from Russia? It would have been cheaper.

Yes TM5 is a new model!
Ass
it's just that in the Russian Federation it is not sold in a store, you have to look for it. And they won't give it in installments. Can I ask them to give them away TM and use it? In general, do you give in the Russian Federation if they take it in installments? Not long ago they came to my house with a very expensive vacuum cleaner, though 210,000 rubles, so they said you will take it in installments, we give the goods.
Masinen
Marina, generally have to give. The first time I hear that you pay, but the goods were not given.
Just do not take a vacuum cleaner, full bullshit is three expensive (
Ass
Thank you for your advice!
Pchela maja
Quote: Ass

oooo my God, there is still another more recent model turns out ???
Yes, the 5th came out (I just had it, my husband gave it, she herself would not have dared into life))
And for 31yu it is of course an insanely expensive overpayment. It is cheaper to come to Russia and buy a used one in a new condition or a new one is not expensive.
There are a lot of ads on Avito now, and there are a lot of representatives there. So the girls bought from the Bread Maker, everything works (mmm).
I myself was just tuning in to 31yu, but of course not for the official. the price.
Vei
Ass, I'm just offended for you, but can I refuse and return the money? Crazy overpayment and receipt of goods only six months later - Ostap Bender is resting!
And take the TM31 model, not the new TM5. It is proven, it seems to me more convenient to operate and much cheaper on the secondary market.
Ass
Oh, thank you all for your responses, in Kazakhstan these are the prices .... I think that it is unlikely that she will return the money, especially since she did not give me a check, most likely I will buy it out, especially since there is no alternative. And if this model is easier for me, that's very good. How to buy a photo of my TM. I'll try to call her (the representative) all the same and ask if she can already give it to me? Anyway, the next payment has to be made this week.
Pchela maja
Yes, the representatives cheat, of course. In Germany, the new model costs 1109 euros.
And for a long wait in Germany (since many are now waiting for 3 months to receive a new model) as a gift either a book or a second pot with a lid and a measuring cup is given.
Ass
No book there costs 2300 rubles. I asked them about the packing case, whether it was included in the kit or not, they said no.
Ass
One basic book is included, and additional ones are paid for.If the bucket gets scratched, then you need to order the cost, to be honest, I already forgot, at that time I was focused on the catfish device. And I'll take the recipes from YOU, my favorite forum !!!
Laslovna
Pchela maja, well, and you were silent that you have TM5 !!! We are waiting for a photo and more stories about him !!! There are no reviews on the Internet yet. Where did you buy in Germany, is there Russian on the menu ???
Laslovna
Ass, there is a bucket - an eternal bowl (well, almost) for good stainless steel dishes, a guarantee is given for 25 years, what will become with this bucket! There is also a non-Teflon coating that is afraid of scratches.
Ass
Yes, just my multi-cooker bowl after 4.5 years of use, not large scratches are visible, despite the fact that I tried to do it carefully. Therefore, I am worried about TM, all the same, I will not get a newer model after it.
Pchela maja
Quote: Laslovna

Pchela maja, well, and you were silent that you have TM5 !!! We are waiting for a photo and more stories about him !!! There are no reviews on the Internet yet. Where did you buy in Germany, is there Russian on the menu ???

I'm in euphoria of course, maybe .. tm-chika I never had! but the difference is not big to overpay of course.
I am a good model and easy to operate (this is important!).
But I didn't have any problems with management in TM5, everything is simple there too.
I bought it in Russia for an officer. the price. Yesterday my husband and I went to the opening of a new center in St. Petersburg, presented the book with dessert. baking.

Of the main differences:
1. Size: tm has become bigger, bigger body, bigger bowl, bigger volume of varoma.
2. Temperature step 5 degrees: from 37,40,45, ....... 95, 98,100,105,110,115,120, varoma.
3. The scale can be used while cooking (up to speed 2, when there is no strong vibration).
4. The knives are very sharp, you can cut yourself.
5. The silicone gasket is now integrated into the cover (((ie, if changed, then the whole.
6. You can block the control from the child by entering the PIN code.
7.speed also with halves: spoon, 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, etc.
If you have any questions, ask. Photo under the spoiler.

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Here is a nice video about the model. The first video is in Russian. And in the second, a comparison of TM5 and TM31 (French).




Ass
What can I say TECHNOLOGY ...
Laslovna
Where did you buy in Germany, is there Russian on the menu ???
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selenа
Pchela maja, At today's euro exchange rate,
Quote: Pchela Maja
representatives
work for a penny, winding up only 26 thousand rubles 98,500 rubles - 72,000 (1109 euros X 65 rubles) = 26,000. This amount includes customs clearance, payment for office rent, warehouses, maintenance of a repair service, salaries for distributors, and for yourself, the guys work just for a penny, given the small turnover Just don't think that I have anything to do with this business, I just can't get used to to the new exchange rate and I understand that with last year's exchange rate of 45 rubles TM 05 would have cost fifty dollars and with my salary I would have bought it for the collection even (my salary was not raised when the rate increased)
Pchela maja
Oksana, in Russia, a book of recipes, instructions, a menu in TM - all in Russian.
Hope, but they do not ship from Germany from the factory for the retail price, they charge for the wholesale one and it is definitely not 1109 euros.
And customs clearance, yes, biting, of course, you can't argue with that.
Why is there a queue in Germany - yes, because for most Germans 1109 euros is not the largest amount that can be mastered with a strong desire, otherwise there would be no queue and delays in shipments. And now the fifth is being assembled - both in France and at a new plant in Germany in Wuppertal and still cannot cope with the volume of orders.
My Kesha induction 84th also costs about 800-900 euros for an incomplete package, maybe 1109 and normal for kitchens. a robot with advanced capabilities, I don't know.
I, too, somehow find it difficult to get used to the current situation.
TatianaSa
I saw him in Spain for 504 euros.
Pchela maja
I added a photo to the message (hid it under the spoiler), who is interested.
Laslovna
Pchela maja, did you try to chop the meat? (Since the knives are sharp, the result should please)
For the experiment, you do not want to boil 1 liter of water in order to have an idea of ​​the power of the device.
I hammer into the search engine "buy TM5" of 0 results !!!
Pchela maja
I do minced meat only in a meat grinder, today I was doing this in the morning, however, I will fry cutlets and make dumplings in the evening with my daughter, so I have a bowl of minced meat in the refrigerator in the photo without a bowl (a bowl of minced meat is in the refrigerator))))
but I'll boil the water for the dough and unsubscribe
I still remain in some confusion, I dreamed about it so much, and when I bought it - you don't even know where to start
but today I plan to knead the dough on dumplings and a cupcake
about the search, it is better to go to the website of the official representative thermomix-tm dot ru
they just updated the site
TatianaSa
Girls, does anyone have a proven recipe for ice cream? I want ice cream like it was in the USSR
Cvetaal
Tatyana, I make an ice cream very simply: cream + condensed milk, I tried different recipes with yolks, gelatin, but more fuss, but the result is the same, at least my family and guests require just such an ice cream.
1 b condensed milk + cream 33-35% (1 pack 450-500 ml) + 250 ml cream 20-25%

But I don't have thermomix, ice cream maker
Pchela maja
Oksana, a liter of water boiled in 13 and a half minutes
Tatyana, I have raw egg recipes in my basic recipe book. I'm so afraid to cook
But if you need to take off in the evening
TatianaSa
First, I interfere with everything, cook in a thermal, and then esessno in an ice cream maker. I am making now according to the recipe of Ksyushka-buns. Maybe it will look like that ice cream that melted for a long time and had to be gnawed nostalgic
TatianaSa
Marina, yesterday I tried with raw eggs ... it turned out to be watery, despite my 45% cream I'm sad
Vei
TatianaSa, Luda Husky has a recipe for butter cream on milk and eggs called Charlotte, exactly according to Husky's recipe. So the cream itself tastes like ice cream, and from the freezer it looks like ice cream. Try it, it’s all the more easy to do it in TM, although I’m already cooking it in MV. In general, look, this cream is amazing and in frozen form for me it is an ice cream. Just don't forget to add vanillin.
Irma
Pchela maja, congratulations. A new thermomix has appeared in Russia! And it's great that you have, now we will wait for new recipes from you
Irma
TatianaSa, and the book you do not have a recipe for the cream "Thermomix"? They make ice cream based on that cream. And I also frozen 33% cream and added a can of condensed milk, it turns out ice cream. I have not tried to make Thermomix cream myself, but I have plans for the near future. I mostly use frozen berries and cream, I love fruit ice cream, it turns out super!
TatianaSa
Irma, I only love ice cream, no additives. No chocolate, no zest, no nuts in ice cream. Tomorrow I'll try Charlotte. Today the ice cream is closer to the truth, but still not the same. Similar to Italian ice cream. And I just hunt ice cream and I just savor a teaspoon ...
Oktyabrinka
in the book "I cook it my own way" there are two recipes for ice cream based on egg yolks, slightly corrected as I need and an excellent ice cream turns out, nothing burns in tm it turns out super.
TatianaSa
I'll try, thanks
TatianaSa
TS06101964, can you share the details?
Oktyabrinka
Tatyana, 4-6 yolks, 200 g of sugar, vanillin, a pinch of salt, stir for 1-2 minutes / sc 4-5, then add 0.5 liters of milk and cook for 15 minutes / sc3-4 from the moment the temperature reaches 90 degrees, it turns out in essence custard. then rub through a sieve, you can add 2-3 plates of soaked gelatin, mix well, cover with a film over the surface of the cream and cool. pour 300ml of cream of any fat content into a bowl and whisk lightly add the cream, mix until smooth, pour into an ice cream maker, at the end of the program, or eat immediately or into the freezer. I have been making ice cream for the third year and we really like it, on this basis I make both chocolate and coffee.
Pchela maja
Today I crawled to the store, bought Babaevsky chocolate, nuts and made a chocolate-nut Nutella for the child according to Mikhaskin's recipe)
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...=com_smf&topic=413772.260
It turned out very thick and tasty. The child is happy)
And before we ordered a similar pasta from aicherb

With Thermomix, cooking is so easy and quick)))) True, I thought about one more bowl)
Today I only managed to get wet with a paper towel.

I also made dough for dumplings according to the vinnovai recipe from the closed group "Thermomix" forum

100 g of water
100 g sour cream
1 egg
0.5 tsp salt
485g flour
pour water and sour cream into a glass + salt, heat to 37 gr. sk 2
add flour, 1 egg on top = 15 sec 5 sc.

Delicious dumplings turned out.
Pchela maja
Quote: Irma
Pchela Maja, congratulations. A new thermomix has appeared in Russia! And it's great that you have, now we will wait for new recipes from you
Thank you!)
I liked a few of the cookie recipes from the Dessert Pastry book. I want to cook in our favorite Nordic)
If it works out, I'll post a recipe for a topic with a photo))))
selenа
Marinochka, thank you for sharing your impressions and new recipes
Laslovna
Marina! And at what speed did you boil the water?

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