Liubov_Liubov
The meat does. But after Profikuk died while grinding squid, I try not to load Thermomix by crushing meat. I have a blender with a fastening glass with very sharp knives - I grind in it and transfer the already chopped to TM for mixing
Omela
The meat must be cut into smaller pieces and in small portions, otherwise it starts to jump and yes, the veins are wound on the knife. I make hummus all the time ... first I grind the seeds (or sesame). and then chickpeas ... if you do it thinner, then generally the most delicate mass turns out, if it is thicker, then individual small particles are felt.
Omela
Quote: Liubov_Liubov
I try not to load Thermomix by crushing meat.
For the same reasons, I do not grind wheat into flour, after the knife broke against a stone ...
Alex100
Liubov_Liubov, How did you solve the problem with Profikuk?
Liubov_Liubov
I didn't dare)))) I scored, went to several post offices - our Russian post only accepts international parcels in its packaging, and their maximum size is 6, they refuse to accept a parcel of the size of Profiquk. I'll write to the computeruniverse a little later about this ... + their maximum declared value for Germany is 10,000 rubles, they don't charge more. And you need to put an invoice in the parcel, since this is a return. And the customs, as they told me at the post office, would not let a parcel with an invoice of 300 euros, but a value of 10,000 rubles, will not pass))))
I will order my sister from Germany, and I will give everything except the base as spare parts)))) I think an extra bowl with nozzles will not hurt)
Omela
And today I went to the service. The bowl flowed, and it was good that the bowl was on the table, or rather on the scales. I poured milk, got ready to bake pancakes, got distracted, I came, and there was a puddle on the table. Moreover, she kneaded the dough anyway, it didn't flow. If it was at the base. but the skiff would come TM. And so it cost a little blood - 880 rubles, the plastic base cracked.

In the office everyone is so important, they advertise the new TM. I say it's worth it. like a wing from an airplane, but they are a thing.
Alex100
Quote: Omela

I say it's worth it. like a wing from an airplane, but they are a thing.

This wing will crack, somewhere on takeoff and there will be a thing)
Oktyabrinka
Omela, and from what it is not clear?
selenа
Quote: Omela
the plastic base is cracked.
Ksyusha, is this such a gray h-rnya that holds a knife and serves as the bottom of the bowl? And how could it crack, only from mechanical impact, did you drop it? What office was (in the sense on what street)?
Masinen
But my basket is cracked and I can't understand how, I didn't seem to drop it.
But the bottom is serious, of course.
Pchela maja
Quote: Omela
In the office everyone is so important, they advertise the new TM. I say it's worth it. like a wing from an airplane, but they are a thing.
Anyone who cares can buy an old thermomix model, since they are still sold on Avito for reasonable money. And also profikuk, which, judging by Mashin's posts, in terms of grinding is in no way inferior to thermomix, and in some cases even surpasses it. And so yes, after the increase, now a lot of things can be seen at insane prices.

Omela
Quote: selenа
This is such a gray x-rnya that holds a knife and serves as the bottom of a bowl?
Yes, it is she, and, as I understood, this is a fairly common phenomenon. because the specialist srau began to consider this detail. I myself did not notice this crack. and every time. to see it must be considered very carefully. I tried to take a picture:

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Why it cracked - I don't know. maybe from time to time, maybe when it fell. I don’t remember. I went to Usievich.
Omela
Quote: Pchela Maja
and in some cases even surpasses it.
Mash, and in what cases is it superior?

I will repair mine until it stops.Today I asked about the motors, they said that they were just putting a new one, I didn't ask the price.
selenа
Omela, Ksyushenka, thanks for the photo, now I understand, I need to keep an eye
Omela
Yes, Nagy, visually and tactilely need to be examined periodically.
Omela
Now I once again carefully examined the crack, it is located just above that place. where the metal plate is inserted. which, as it were, is a surprise. There are two such parts opposite each other. there are such windows and the plate is visible. I think. that this plate rests against plastic and from time to time such pressure affects, purely theoretically ...
Pchela maja
Omela, Masha wrote that she makes minced meat better.
But if the knives are sharpened in Proficuk, then it is clear why.
In any case, for me this moment is not so important - I always make meat in a meat grinder.
Omela
Clear.
Pchela maja
Girls, not as advertising, but yesterday I was at a master class held by the company in St. the price of 59,000 rubles is for a new device with a 2-year warranty.
Xperia-5
There are a lot of interesting things about the new model of thermomix TM5 on the European site. As if and reluctant to buy. The new model of the thermomix is ​​now under great doubt, although at first it caught fire. Well, read it yourself (( 🔗®-tm-5
Masinen
Alla, Thanks for the link!
Yeah! Marriage within marriage !!! Sheer horror!
It is definitely not worth buying it, so then run around the services!
Poor people ((
But TM 31 is worth it !!!! Reliable car !!!
Rada-dms
Quote: Masinen

Alla, Thanks for the link!
Yeah! Marriage within marriage !!! Sheer horror!
It is definitely not worth buying it, so then run around the services!
Poor people ((
But TM 31 is worth it !!!! Reliable car !!!
Advise !? Or again in the direction of MyCook?
Masinen
Rada-dms, Ol, I advise. He's reliable!
Time-tested, and this is the main thing.
Pchela maja
Well, Omela repaired her 31st and more than once, it seems to me that it will be lucky here
it's better to take it with a guarantee
Masinen
Marina, yes, with a better guarantee. But the first 31 models are reliable, with a minimum of electronics.
And 5Tm, of course, is beautiful, but so much marriage !!! It's just something.
And in Europe, okay, there are laws.
And with us, then prove that the marriage, and not you broke.

Does it work well for you? Do you use it often?
Xperia-5
The warranty is a good thing, but my TM-31 for 4 years of operation got tired, I'm looking for a replacement. I bought mine in Italy, so it is categorically not serviced in Ukraine. I even had to contact the craftsmen to. In general, I was fed up with 31 models, I want something new, but I was disappointed in TM5.
Vei
Ksenia was repairing her 31st, but she also used it for wear and tear, and it still works! my mine is not very tense (chop a biscuit, cook a cream, in general, without overloading), so I think it will be enough for my life.
Masinen
Alla, try maikuk then))
Pchela maja
Masha, I use it very often, there are no problems and I hope that it will not.
Of those Russian-speaking users who live in Germany and with whom I communicate, no one had any problems either, and even children are allowed to cook there (they cook themselves using built-in programs).
But I am by no means campaigning for tm5, especially since I am not a distributor, but an ordinary user.
The forum to which the link was given, I read before buying, and I am also a member of a German group on Facebook, where people also openly write about their TM5.
But everything can break, Miele breaks too, the staffs and indeed any German equipment.
The only question is the level of service, and in general, that this service is available and the details are available. IMHO
Masinen
Marina, yes it is clear that everything breaks)

Maybe there was a marriage party.
Honestly, it's very strange to read this about the Thermomix. That on the second day breaks down in people and after the service breaks again. This is given the value of the goods.
Pchela maja
I don’t know, you can try Oksana about the maikuk, she has TM31 and Maikuk, she eventually sold Maikuk.
In general, the Thermomix seemed to me convenient and thoughtful or something.
And if not for the fifth, I would definitely have bought the 31st model.
Ekaterina25
Good evening.
First we decided to buy ProfiCook, went to 2 stores, but they do not have them in stock, they sell it only via the Internet. We thought about what it meant to buy it. I would like to "shake" and try on a tooth))))
The mother-in-law TM 31 has been working without interruption for 8 years, she advises buying it, but TM 5. I quickly ran through the reports - many are dissatisfied. Now I think again.
I also have a question in the menu is there Russian?
Rada-dms
Do the knives in TM 5 need to be unscrewed from below? Or are they inserted from above?
Pchela maja
Quote: Ekaterina25
without interruption for 8 years, she advises buying it, but TM 5. I quickly ran through the messages - many are dissatisfied. Now I think again.
Usually, when there are problems, people write on the forum
And when everything is ok, rarely. Not everyone will shoot a video and upload photos of cooked dishes, recipes, and also write every other time, saying that I have a new thermomix for 8 months and everything is fine!))) This should also be corrected.
By the way, the Germans, who have been successfully using the new model since the fall, talk about it on it. forum and write. Even the branch was created by frightened people, they say, write who has been using it for a long time and has no problems)))
But if they are so inclined, maybe it really is to buy 31, since the family has a positive experience? it is cheaper.
Pchela maja
Quote: Rada-dms

Do the knives in TM 5 need to be unscrewed from below? Or are they inserted from above?
I think that the principle of fixation in 31 and 5 is similar
a knife is inserted into the bowl from above, and the lower plastic base fixes it
I don't know, is it clear, did you explain?
in general, everything is very easy to understand there)
Rada-dms
Pchela maja, Thank you! That is, you do not need to screw the base from the bottom of the bowl?
Pchela maja
You don't need to screw it on, I'll try in other words, the knife was inserted into the hole on top, the metal itself. the bowl was planted on a plastic base and turned - all the knife was fixed. Everything is the same as in 31m. It's VERY simple)
you can watch the video 🔗
Vei
Quote: Pchela Maja
It's VERY simple)
agree! I sometimes fix it with almost one hand. In general, I like the ergonomics in TM, everything is convenient and well thought out!
Ekaterina25
Pchela maja, I agree with you 100%

I also consulted with a friend. She was already buying a new model, and her mother was 31. Praises more 31.
Her advice was - if there are worthy analogs and much cheaper, then why not order.

We called a representative in our city, the excitement at TM 5 is frenzied, the Germans are dismantling it to fly away, the queue is until August, if we order.
Therefore, we will not wait, we made an order for Proficuc, tomorrow or after tomorrow they will bring home. Price 249 + 5 home delivery.
I go to the PC branch, share my impressions
Asya Klyachina
Rada-dms, at first I also wanted MyCook very, very much (well, I liked it externally), then 31 Thermomix turned up inexpensively. I consulted with Oksana which is better, she advised TM. I never regretted it, it turned out that for me personally this is generally the best and most popular thing that I got from kitchen gadgets. He just went into my hands. And the girl from whom she bought, with the same joy got rid of him, did not grow together with her.
Rada-dms
Asya Klyachina, well, almost persuaded, if I buy, then a new one! Thanks for the advice!
Rada-dms
Maybe the price will drop a little. Or not to hope? Do they have any discounts? Or order from Germany?
Rada-dms
Quote: Vei
In general, I like the ergonomics in TM, everything is convenient and well thought out!
Well, since you say, then I will seriously start wanting!
selenа
Quote: Rada-dms
Or order from Germany
from Germany is not worth it, the savings will come out dubious (the impossibility of maintenance in Russia, the purchase of consumable spare parts, cookbooks), it is also difficult to count on discounts and promotions (buy three-fourths, get a gift), get ready for the full cost and immediately forget how much it cost and you will be happy
Pchela maja
Well, Kenwood induction plus numerous attachments also costs well over a thousand euros, and although I have it in demand in the kitchen, it is much less thermomix.
It's only a shame that in Russia, representatives sell thermomixes for 1,300 euros, while in Germany it costs 1109 euros.And for the long wait, the Germans were also offered a choice of a bowl and lid set or a cookbook.
It turns out that we overpay, but it's safer for me to have a service in my city.
Pchela maja
Quote: Rada-dms

Asya Klyachina, well, almost persuaded, if I buy, then a new one! Thanks for the advice!
now at 31 they gave a price of 58tr and this is with a 2-year warranty
in my opinion the model is very good and it definitely costs this money
Masinen
Quote: Pchela Maja
It's only a shame that in Russia, representatives sell thermomixes for 1,300 euros, while in Germany it costs 1109 euros. And for the long wait, the Germans were also offered a choice of a bowl and lid set or a cookbook.
And because there is control over everything and order and respect for consumers.
And here they only want to cut down more and that's it.
But 59 for the old model is expensive. you pay more than a thousand euros.
It's my opinion. That's 40 thousand normal.
.
selenа
Quote: Pchela Maja
It's only a shame that in Russia, representatives sell thermomixes for 1,300 euros, while in Germany it costs 1109 euros.
Glory to the Almighty that you do not know the markup for medicines.
Quote: Masinen
And because there is control over everything and order and respect for consumers.
And here they only want to cut down more and that's it.
And with us it will be so as long as we, with and without reason, will find fault with "how we have"
Pchela maja
Quote: Masinen
But 59 for the old model is expensive. you pay more than a thousand euros.
It's my opinion. That's 40 thousand normal.
Mash, optimally yes, I agree, the price is 40t. R. more than 31 models are suitable.
But don't forget how the Thermomix is ​​distributed. I have never met normal prices when distributing through distributors, the product is always sold at an inflated price, take Tupperver, Zepter, etc. So it is here. Therefore, it is worth making an allowance for this.


Masinen
Hope, just need control))
And so, I love my country in any form
Marina, Yes it is)
But they do discounts if they see that you seem to want to buy, but are in doubt.
So my husband's aunt bought TM and her representative made a good discount on the car.

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