Musenovna
Zhanik, I think they will forgive us.
I did not find those about children here. And if there is, it is not particularly active.
you have a special child. Maybe she has a lot to learn.
It's a pity there is nowhere to pour out the details.
Creamy
My goddaughter had the same problems for 8 years. She was spoon-fed until she was 8 years old! Each spoon was considered a feat. For 8 years, I was solemnly informed on the phone every day that they had fed 4-5 spoons of food for lunch. Only now, at the age of 9, she began to eat herself more or less. At the same time, he studies in a prestigious gymnasium, a class with the most difficult program. studies at 4 and 5, attends a children's theater studio, from the age of three attends choreography, from the age of three to the art teacher. But to feed her is something!
Vei
So start a new topic like Kids Fads or who eats what. I think she will be popular))
Olga VB
Alevtina, if your goddaughter is not blown away by the wind, I find it difficult to believe this story.
Moreover, I have personal experience on this topic: my mother thought all her life that I did not eat anything, that it was impossible to feed me.
In my childhood, she generally told everyone what a feat it was to put at least a spoonful of food in me a day.
At the same time, I was always fuller than my peers, and in the 6th grade I weighed 58 kg. Why did it happen? probably from the fact that "did not eat anything."
Then I rebelled and held out in this weight until I was 50, but that's a completely different story.
Masinen
vernisag, and you bought Kesha?
vernisag
Quote: Masinen

vernisag, and you bought Kesha?
Natusichka
And I'm waiting for mine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
Valya
What kind of natusichka did you order?
Zhanik
Girls, the man was giving this ad. his nozzles are very cheap. Maybe not everyone saw it?
I ordered. He sent me TK 2 pieces

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...463.0
Li-Ona
tyumenochka, for models 94 and 96 this is the same machine, only the blender attachment has changed, now it will be with a stirring paddle and new improved knives. 🔗
Olga VB
Girls, someone looked after something here?
If we collect at least 4 items in Moscow, then they can be taken for 1/3 of the price. I am ready to receive a Moscow parcel at one address for myself, so that it comes out cheaper.
Only there it is necessary to quickly decide.
Natusichka
Girls!!! And I’m already bogged down !!!!!!! Thanks to Innochka! I took it at the old price. 096 model. Included in the kit? blender and food processor (+ discs for slicing, shredding).
While my feelings are still fighting ... will I like it? ... I really liked it in appearance! Now there is little left to do ... start cooking!

Girls! I have a proposal! And let's open the sub-topic "Cooking at CM Kenwood" (for example). And then I started reading this topic, there is a lot of things written there, but you won't find him, if necessary ...
Do you support?
Valya
Congratulations to Natusichka! I'm for the recipe topic!
Natusichka
Girls! Who has already somehow mastered Kesha, please open the topic and start writing recipes, in detail, for dummies who also want to learn!
It would be nice if there were recipes (active) at the beginning of the topic
zairo4ka
Hello! Girls, tell me, please: how is the meat grinder in the kMix series? We are looking for a budget kitchen for my sister. car. Requirements: good dough mixer - bakes a lot (custom-made cakes) + puff pastry, good meat grinder, good vegetable cutter. A blender, etc. is not needed. From everything I've watched, I was interested in this series, but there are few reviews or I'm not looking for it well. Thank you.
Natusichka
Here, I forgot to brag ... Yesterday I kneaded the dough in Kesh, yeast. And she baked such bagels (lean!), The filling - halva, and where there was not enough - poppy seeds and walnuts, Help yourself!
🔗

It's all KESHA !!!!! How did I follow the mixing process !!!! And then I put it on heating at 30 degrees (as Inna advised) and it fit
Valya
They look very appetizing.
Olga VB
Girls, if you really want to, you can, of course, start a separate topic "Cooking in KM with heating", there are other KM models with heating, except Kenwood.
I can do this, but there it will be necessary to post links to specific recipes, drawn up according to all the rules, or at least painted in detail, and not just to pictures.
Therefore, if there are at least a dozen of such recipes, I will draw up the topic right away.
So far there are not very many of them, since they are exhibited mainly in other topics.
They will also have to be collected throughout the forum.
For now, throw links here.
Vei
Olga VB, but it seems to me that you need your own Keshin theme with recipes. He has other modes / speeds / pribluda and troubles. Do not have all the CM in one heap.
Olga VB
I meant KM dough mixers with heating, such as Keshi, for example, Bohmann with Klatronic, everything is the same there.
It is the kitchen machines, not the soup cookers or heated blenders, etc.
However, kesha has recipes using other possibilities (attachments), and not just induction.
Once I also wanted to make such a separate branch on the wave of the first piggy delight from Kesha, then it somehow leveled off, because almost any recipe is suitable for him, just like any specific Keshen recipe can be implemented without Kesha.
Therefore, it seems to me that you can limit yourself to one topic, where you can simply collect all the links to recipes that are convenient to implement with the help of Keshi with induction, Bomann with heating and their brothers.
Here on the forum there are such recipes.
But to sit them specially to collect them separately
Therefore, I propose to throw links here or in a personal, and then I will collect them into one topic.
Or someone else can do it.
Vei
Olga VB, I understood what you mean, but I think that it is not the same thing.
Nyusya23
Natusichka, I see everything turned out just a class !!!! Further successes Natalie to you !!!! It looks very tasty and I have no doubt the taste is excellent, it shouldn't be otherwise!
Olga VB
Quote: Vei

Olga VB, I understood what you mean, but I think that it is not the same thing.
No problem.
If there are at least a few recipes, we will make them separately for Kesha.
Angel with horns
Hello everyone! I read the forum and it made me want to buy Kenwood 080. True, I still haven't figured out whether I need induction, but I'm afraid that having bought without it I will regret it, and selling and buying is troublesome and not profitable. The question is. I found this description of the completeness of 080 Kenwood on a Finnish website:
Kenwood Cooking Chef takes Kenwood's famous versatility a step further by adding an overall still induction heating. Cook food induction directly to the mixer bowl.

Stainless steel bowl: Large 6.7 liter bowl with 3 liters of vegetable and mixing capacity.

Entry into force: The powerful universal machine is equipped with a 1500W power combination and 1100W cooking power.

Cooking Function: The general machine has a combination of planetary motion in which the mixer rotates at the same time as it passes along the sides of the bowl, so you can be sure that the ingredients are mixed evenly. Planetary sekoitusliikken allows you to prepare and "cold" that kneader bowl for cooking kitchens. The bowl heats up quickly and you can control the temperature accurately. 2 sensors and temperature settings between 20-140 degrees.

Display: Convenient display with 3-hour timer and temperature control.

The product has a 2 year warranty.

The delivery set includes:
AT647 Universal Machine
AT358 Heat Resistant Glass Blender
AT502 Flexi mixer

The translation is a little clumsy, because I translated it by Google.
How do you think this is a complete package? On our sites, a whole bunch of all sorts of details are in the photo, and here is just a description and a general view.
And maybe someone will speak out about the need for induction. Thanks in advance to everyone for the answers!
Olga VB
Irina, according to the description, it looks like the basic configuration with a blender and a combine.
As far as I have come across this, if in European stores they write "080", then this, as a rule, is just such a configuration. If "084", then it can be anything and you need to clarify.
In our stores, it is imperative to clarify all the details, no matter what is written there.
As for induction: whether you need it, only you can decide.
It depends on whether you have other equipment, on your cooking preferences and on your financial capabilities.
Personally, I rarely use induction, mainly for baking, but I do not regret at all that I took this particular model.
Nyusya23
Angel with horns, this is model 086 or now 096, only we have the AT502 Flexi-mixer included as standard and there as an additional attachment. About induction I will say from personal experience, I need it at least in order to cook choux pastry just playfully (without straining), risotto, palette, (mamalyga, banosh) cottage cheese, it is convenient to cook in small portions jam, it comes out amber, if necessary for the dough , in order for it to fit, you can set any temperature, it's up to you, but I took it for myself and I'm very happy (I have 086 for about a year)
Natusichka
Quote: Olga VB
Personally, I rarely use induction, mainly for baking, but I do not regret at all that I took this particular model.

Olya, and can be more detailed from this moment? How exactly do you apply induction? I'm just starting to learn Kesha, so everything is very interesting to me!
Olga VB
How exactly to bake?
The most primitive thing is to soften butter or honey for dough or cream, start proving the dough (then in the oven under a light bulb).
Choux pastry, custard, soufflé, fruits and vegetables for fillings, if not raw are needed.
Everything that is recommended to be done in a water bath, I simply do in Kesh, setting the temperature to 80-95 * C, depending on the products.
Angel with horns
Olga, did I understand correctly that the basic configuration and the empty one are not the same thing? 080 looks like this in European style 🔗 There are quite a few special stages here, which is not bad in itself. And which combine at Kenwood is analogous to 080, but without induction? And the price for 080 to 1000 euros is an adequate price? I do not have a separate oven, only in MV Panasonic, but quite large, for 42 liters. The usual one is still only in the plans, since for it all the kitchen furniture will need to be changed, and this will not be tomorrow. I just bought Blender a regular Brown Multicwick 7, but is it unlikely to replace Kesha? Buying Kenwood is certainly not cheap for me, but I want to buy a good thing right away and then rejoice for many years. I'm afraid just not to get carried away unnecessarily.
Inna, thanks for the answer. I read what you are cooking and felt like a careless dolt. Before, I somehow didn’t have enough time for pickles, but now I don’t work, the children are almost grown up and I can conjure at the stove. I hope so at least. Here, I choose my assistants.
kseniya D
Angel with horns, 080 and 086 are identical in configuration. 084 (like mine) without a blender and a combine, and the complete set of corollas is the same, it is the basic one. But I have this second Kesha and I have all the necessary attachments, so I bought a "naked" car, only with whisks.
Regarding the price, I was lucky to buy it for 44,000 two weeks ago. At this price, you are unlikely to find it in Russia now.
Olga VB
Irina, everything is correct: 080 = 086
The price is more or less adequate, but on sales you can actually buy cheaper.
At the same time, if you have the opportunity to buy yourself in Europe, then you can find an advantageous offer, and if you order from there to Russia, then the shipment will eat up all the benefits, moreover, many refuse to send such a heavy and bulky package.
Analogs of 080 in power and volume, but without induction - these are Major series machines - 020, 040 and their various configurations.
If you consider the 080 as a full-fledged pan, then it seems to me that it is not very convenient in this capacity. Here it is more likely to acquire MV, they also exist with induction, but there are also without.
In addition, there is, in addition to Kesha, KM with heating and different nozzles.
Nyusya23
Angel with hornsThe choice of the 086 (now 096) machine is very worthy, with such a machine it is pleasant to cook, it’s a pleasure, the price for the basic configuration of 1000 euros is a little expensive, here in Ukraine 1000 euros is the 096 model, and even a gift of a dough sheeter or cube cutter to choose from You can read the tips on the forum and make your choice, from your desires and what you like best.
Angel with horns
Ksenia, Thank you! So I have to take it with some minimal set, type 080. I have a wonderful meat grinder, I also have a blender, even two, but here the glass is glass, you can pour hot and blender. It remains to decide on the need for induction.
Olga, yes, I plan to buy in Finland, it will get another -24% invoice, I think in Russia, but I can't buy such a price. MV I have two, but no induction. I don't want to buy the third one. I will choose between 080 and 040. It's a shame that there are very few reviews about the usefulness of induction. However, this is understandable, the device is quite expensive and therefore not massive. I will reread this Temko again in more detail.
Angel with horns
Inna, yes in Ukraine is a very advantageous offer. Our prices start from 80,000 to 086 and without any bonuses and gifts. How does 096 differ from 086?
kseniya D
No different.
As a user with and without induction, I cannot say for sure that induction is cool and without it anywhere. For the price that I bought, induction is a plus for me, but at the moment, I would have done without it, but I would have taken instead of my 570 (former), 020.
Zhanik
Angel with horns, I can unsubscribe about induction! I don't make the dough. But here's the custard dough and cream plus Olga !!!! then homemade cheese, sauces (including Bechamel, and especially Bolognese in use), carrot cutlets for my daughter, ice cream for the FREEZER (I don't have this attachment, but I cook the mixture in Keche when heated). And I also cook ham and sausage in it ...
Regarding the invoice in 24%, I would clarify everything ... Besides, as I tried to contact Giganti on this topic 2 years ago ... it is not always available right at the border (for Russians) ... first make an advance payment, and pick it up in a week ... the box will not fit into every SUV even ...
Less warranty ... It's up to you. At that time, taking into account all body movements, I saved about 8 thousand rubles in the end ...
True, I found a good offer in Russia at that time.
Compared with the generally accepted price, there was a sense ... But it turned out like this ... I donated 8 thousand ... and did not bother. My daughter was not even 1.5 years old ... Road, time, green, gasoline is also money ... and now twice money
Nyusya23
Angel with horns, the difference is only in the blender, in 096 in the blender the knife is different (sort of like improved) and the rod for better mixing. Yes, in Ukraine 096 at a new price of 20999 hryvnia, which is about 58-59 thousand rubles.
Angel with horns
Ksenia, I would probably save on induction, but it turns out that for the same 50,000 plus a ponytail I can buy either 020 in Russia or 080 in Finland. Our prices are now completely off the chain, well, why tell, we live in the same country. Yes, and there is almost nothing on sale, many merchants keep the goods until better times.
Natalia, from all of the above I will use only dough-cream-sauces. It's scary to even read about homemade cheese, sausage and ham, let alone take it. The baby is all grown up already. We have a green card all the time, we have a big car, a minibus. You can take out the floor of Giganti. I'll have to call and find out if Keshi is in Lappeenranta. I think that now the Finns are not up to whims, there are almost no clients left. So spending only 1500 rubles on gasoline is still profitable in today's times.
Inna, thanks for the answer, I understood everything.
kseniya D
[I would probably save on induction, but it turns out that for the same 50,000 plus a tail I can buy either 020 in Russia or 080 in Finland / quote]
Then it is better to immediately take with induction!
Zhanik
Angel with horns, if it's not a secret, how much is he there now in Eureka? too lazy to climb and rummage, to be honest, it's simple (((and again I say, find out about the invoice! not everyone gives ... and not everyone pays
Angel with horns
Zhanik, 999 euros now. The funny thing is that even without an invoice it turns out more profitable than in Russia. But for this price (1000 euros) you can buy on Avito, I saw an ad yesterday. Apparently from there they carry for the invoice. Now it's all the same only after NG we'll go, now we can't make it. Something I just caught fire with Kesha.
Zhanik
Angel with horns, cool! 2 years ago, it also cost ... and then Kenwood himself raised the prices ... in Russia there was nowhere to go ... and in Europe it went up by 300 EUR overnight ... (spring-summer 2013). It wasn't that interesting then. But I monitored by inertia just
Musenovna
Angel with horns, induction is certainly good, but not at all necessary. Of course it's up to you to decide.
I have induction, but I don't use it often.
tyumenochka
Nyusya23, Li-Ona, girls, thank you very much for your answers and clarifications. Of course, now we have prices for "space" equipment, and there is practically no choice - they have bought everything, I will wait for at least some stabilization in the market.
vernisag
Quote: Musenovna
induction is certainly good, but not at all necessary.
I have induction, but I don't use it often.
UFffff ...., otherwise I was already all upset that I bought something wrong ...
m0use
And I a little bit (well, somewhere in the depths of my soul) regret that, after listening to the advice, I bought 23, not 13 ... a small difference in power is not at all fundamental, and a bowl of 23 for me is very, well, just very huge and not comfortable .. everything dangles somewhere at the bottom
vernisag
Ksyusha, I understand, when I saw this huge 6.7 liter bowl in the store, I immediately realized that I don’t need this kind of thing. In me and in my (010) everything is flopping about somewhere at the bottom
I wanted so much 13 now I’ll have to buy everything that was cheated in 10k
But if I had gotten then 23 at a normal price and also with a gift, I would have bought it anyway.
m0use
So I fell for gifts - they gave me a set for pasta and a cube cutter. And by the 13th there was a bread maker, I don't need it at all ... No, I'm very happy with it, the machine is a beast, my smart girl, but the bowl is just huge
vernisag
Quote: m0use
presented a set for pasta and a cube cutter
no gifts for myself, but they just gave me a set of rolls for pasta and everything ...
Olga VB
Of course, to each his own.
Personally, I do not regret at all that I took the 080, especially since I knew for sure that one of the most popular attachments would be a meat grinder, and for it more power is desirable. Well, I use induction from time to time.
You just need to soberly weigh what will actually be used not only today, but also tomorrow, and then buy both KM and attachments to it.
Good luck with your choice!

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