Jouravl
Quote: Masinen

Girls, I wrote on the K nozzle, and whipped with a whisk with a bang, but K - I did not work)
Masha! And I'm talking about the K-nozzle ... We talked about it ... it was about how to beat butter with sugar, and then add eggs ..
Masinen
Jouravl, Nadezhd, I didn’t write that I couldn’t beat the eggs To the nozzle)))
And I beat butter and sugar perfectly.
Jouravl
Masinen, Masha! I wrote this !!!!! It's me, me !!!
Masinen
HopeI'll die
Jouravl
Masinen,
Natusichka
Girls, and where in Ukraine you can buy Kenwood (I think that the Chief) ...?
Valya
Natusichka have you looked at the official Kenwood website? I recently took my 084 through the OLH, cheaper than on the official one. New with a guarantee and delivery. Look at olkh there and b. at. you can take it at a good price.
Nyusya23
What kind of kenwood do you want, we had two for yesterday at the old price 096 (086) if you are interested, write I will find out if you did not take it
Valya
And at what price, if not a secret?
Natusichka
Girls, I need one to be good! So that you can knead a lot of dough (both yeast and for noodles) and whip cream, etc. Maybe tell me which one I need? I bake pies for 1 liter of milk ... well, at least to knead for 0.5 liters ... I would knead in portions.
Valya
Are you with induction want ??
Nyusya23
Valya
If without, then KM 020,023, if with induction, then any from the Cooking Chef series (see the package contents)
Nyusya23
I don’t know how to write in a personal so you can call me, I’ll answer all my questions from 086 myself for almost a year, I’m very happy and my friend bought herself the same half a year ago (after watching me that I’m just taking off with him) and how easy it is more time consuming meals can be prepared
Nyusya23
tyumenochka, I had (it is now in the attic, just in case) BOSCH MUM 4856 EU food processor, but it is just a toy compared to 086
Natusichka
Girls, I totally hope for your experience. I'll tell you exactly what I want: as I already wrote, I need a large bowl. I already have a double boiler, so I basically don't need it ... I also have a rolling dough (though manual ... maybe an electric one could be used ...), I also have a shredder. Here, something like this ... Heating ... I would very much like it, but it probably costs a lot?
And yet, I want it to be reliable and powerful (so that there are no problems, like girls)
What will you advise me in my case?

Inna, And what is the price of those Kesh that you can still () buy?
ZEElena
Natusichka, KM 020 large bowl. And if heated 080/084/086 model numbers with induction, depending on the place of purchase and complete set of additional nozzles.
Vei
NatusichkaUntil I realized what you do not need, and what you need, I did not understand. For what purposes is a dough mixer needed, but this is primarily a dough mixer and a planetary mixer! What kind of dough do you use, is there a separate meat grinder, or are you planning to use this machine as a meat grinder too?
While I would say that you need either KMM 020 or KMM 760/770 / etc. The difference between them is only in power, but this will not affect the test, in the number of nests (in 020 there are 3 pieces plus a planetary one, and in 770 - 2 pieces plus a planetary one) and in the quality of materials - 770 are simpler and the nozzles are made of silumin.
Only recently a friend of mine bought a pastry chef 770 and now squeaks with delight, although I told her for a long time that she needed it. Since she only needed a device for the dough and the confectioner, she did not even consider the 020, the power of the 770 is enough for her purposes.
Power affects only the operation of the meat grinder, if a meat grinder is not needed, then any power is suitable for all other purposes.
So explain what you plan to cook / do in it, and then it will be easier to advise you.
Natusichka
I looked at everything ...I would like, of course, to take something better ... now I am solving the issue with finances ... if I find it, I will buy 086 ...
Vei
Natusichka, a strange decision ... I am generally against heating kneaders, but since you didn't say for what purpose you want to buy, then maybe you need 080
Nyusya23
Vei, and what's wrong with the fact that the "kneader" will cook the choux dough easily, you turn on the heater only when you need it, you won't even turn it on by accident, the protection will work. and these devices have a very powerful dough hook, from personal experience I speak
vernisag
Girls, please poke your nose into the dough, which is suitable for pasta, for a nozzle
Nyusya23
vernisag, for pasta or for noodles?
vernisag
Why is there a difference?
Nyusya23
Pasta is when it is made from the AT 910 nozzle, there you need to make the dough "k" shaped whisk, the dough looks more like a crumb less moisture and for noodles then the dough is like for homemade noodles, it is possible only on eggs, but I did it as for dumplings a little tighter only , first just roll the dough into layers and then cut it for noodles
bukabuza
vernisag, IrinaIf for a nozzle that makes different curly pasta, and if not for storage, then you can do anything. I usually make one egg per 100 grams of flour. In it, the most important thing, after the dough has settled, is punching it into a crumb with a processor, then the pasta will be all even.
vernisag
Thank you
Like this? Do you need to knead such a dough with a hook or K-shaped?
Flour 450 gr.
Eggs 4 pcs.
Salt 1 tsp
Oil 1 tbsp. l.

Or is it better in a bread maker
Nyusya23
you can also use a bread maker, but why did you buy a combine, knead with a dough crochet, and let it stand a little, but if there is no time, then roll it out on a dough rolling machine, first it will tear it, but you smooth out the type of puff pastry and again roll it to "1" when you see that it is already elastic, reduce the thickness of the dough, I gradually reach 8 and then for cutting
Zhanik
vernisag, I have 086 ... I mix in HP (((
and when rolling, it is better to "dip" the dough into semolu (semolina of hard varieties in our opinion) before each new rolling
Nyusya23
I understand that you are mastering the gift?
Nyusya23
Zhanik, I don't know, I also have 086, but it's faster for me to knead in a combine, in a bread maker for at least 20, the whole mode for kneading, and in the cache probably mit 3 from strength and the dough is ready, and it's very tight too, but maybe a maximum of 5
Zhanik
Nyusya23, well, it bothers me that he moves his head. I consider him as a dough mixer, no (((I wrote many times about this ... It's easier for me to strain HP ... I saw what happens next to Kesha at Lazerson's on MK ... They look like frogs from Mapet Show ... it's funny to watch. .. but no more (((when it comes to their technique ... They even work with their heads up))) Something has advantages, of course ... but not for the faint of heart ..

I know a girl who changed the latch on my NON-induction Cache ...
Nyusya23
if the dough is tight, when the flour is good, you do not plive at all and you do not need to dip it, and if the flour is floating and it does not help, you just need to do all the manipulations very quickly
Nyusya23
Zhanik, I didn't seem to see this, but how long have you had a combine
Zhanik
Nyusya23, in February 2 years will be. But this did not appear later ... immediately. I do not load. Shore
Nyusya23
my old Bosch had this but I chose kenwood that's why
Nyusya23
When I was deciding what to take for myself, I studied it for a long time, it seems like I remember somewhere there was a discussion about it and there was a conclusion that it was a manufacturing defect, try to call Kenwood on the hotline, of course, for 2 years, but still they can tell you something
vernisag
Quote: Nyusya23

I understand that you are mastering the gift?
Yeah
I threw pasta into the bread maker for the program
But I was making yeast dough, all the dough was wound on a hook and so wound around the bowl, is this normal?
Nyusya23
I have 086, they have a bigger hook than 10, probably a very small amount of dough?
Zhanik
Nyusya23, no ... there was a discussion here that this is, like, an admission that the head nods at heavy loads ... otherwise the engine will burn out ... Not a marriage. It's just that I'm so picky, it looks like ... Watch! Is it really true that when kneading a tough dough, the top is solid monolithic?
Nyusya23
I'll see, of course, but it will be closer to 29, until you really stand up in a cast with the dough, you temporarily make dumplings on a "macarena", but after winding and mournful whining of the Bosch, I think I would pay attention. Maybe you really react very impressionable?
Zhanik
Nyusya23, maybe))) what model do you have?
Nyusya23
vernisag, I had this in Boch, all the dough on the hook and climbs up, but it seems not when there is not enough, but on the contrary when there was a lot of dough, this is probably also from the shape of the hook, and then I also made dough only in a bread maker
Nyusya23
Zhanik, I have 086, bought in April this year
Zhanik
Nyusya23, Inna, you get better the main thing! And as you can, write your impressions)))
Nyusya23
of course !
Zhanik
I'll just put in another five cents, until they showered me with slippers))) In all other respects, I LOVE Kesha !!! I have a lot of attachments and I use it almost daily. Sometimes and more than once a day ... Only kneading hard dough strains. Here are 2 more nozzles waiting for the collection ... So I never regretted the purchase !!!
vernisag
Quote: Nyusya23

I have 086, they have a bigger hook than 10, probably a very small amount of dough?
For 0.5 kg of flour
I tried the juicer yes, really the cake is wet
Nyusya23
Zhanik, and which attachments you have and which ones are you still waiting for what you like and what not
Zhanik
vernisag, oh ... they will definitely beat me ... and ice cream does not always freeze perfectly ... and the potato peeler does not peel all the potatoes)))) there are no universal devices !!!! you need to choose for yourself! and Olya VB wrote many times that you shouldn't buy all the attachments right away ... but just try and understand what exactly is needed for life

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