Nonsense
I became friends with "Berner". She sent the old one to the dacha. I bought a new one - and became friends! Stands in plain sight, reach out. Well, I can't quickly insert the insert and set the thickness! She fell out of love - right up to divorce!
The main thing for me is onions and carrots. While the husband's hands have to be used for the carrots and the Teskomovsky onion holder. Which, of course, is not always convenient (I'm talking about my husband - what if he is not at home? Or sleeping? Or I had a fight with him?). So I'm looking at this grater. And I also don't understand why there is a difference of a thousand in two stores of the same type?
Fifanya
Last year I bought a promotion on the Internet, only paid for it, the delivery was free, and that was what bribed me. Delivery to us is usually horrible as expensive. The onion rubs well, and my carrots are either diced or shabby and everything is frozen. Fresh rub only on alcohol or for Korean.
Masha Ivanova
Vredin @, Anna! What do you mean by "straw"? Does this mean that you put the carrot perpendicular to the plane of the grater and rub it like a Korean one, only with short 1-2 cm sticks? Or something else?
optimist
Fifanya, Anh, why did the delivery cost me 600 rubles

By the way, I also did not like rubbing carrots on the Giant's attachment for Korean carrots - and the length is not the same (short), and the caliber of the wrong carrot (too thin)! And I pinned such hopes on her ...
Fifanya
optimist, Lenus, I sent the order with Hermes, if by mail, it would be the same.
And while I rub it on a cheap grater, I couldn’t find it better
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It's next to Green Berner
Her blades are not rectangular
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RepeShock
Quote: Fifanya
Her blades are not rectangular

And at an angle. Apparently, this is why it is convenient, usually, on such graters, the blades go straight.
Fifanya
Yes, such triangular long bars are obtained. Our Koreans on the market sell salads like this
Vredin @
Quote: Masha Ivanova
Vredin @, Anna! What do you mean by "straw"? Does this mean that you put the carrot perpendicular to the plane of the grater and rub it like a Korean one, only with short 1-2 cm sticks? Or something else?
Elena, if for frying in soup, then yes, with short sticks of 1-2 cm.Today I rubbed carrots in a salad holding it at an angle, approximately as in the photo, it turned out straws 5-7 cm.
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I tried to rub the full length of carrots - not convenient. The handle really gets in the way and there is not enough space to place the carrots.
Masha Ivanova
Vredin @, Anna, thanks. Everything is clear now. I am 100% satisfied with a cheap grater, only fragile. That would be exactly the same metal!
Crown
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I am 100% satisfied with a cheap grater, only fragile.
And what will she do? I have two of these, one with small cells, red, made of very thin and flexible plastic, has been living with me for a hundred years and does not break, the other is orange, bought not so long ago for 70 rubles in the Globe, the plastic is thicker and the cutting is larger, I on it I rub the carrots into pilaf with thick strips and the frozen butter / margarine I rub into the puff pastry.
I usually beat the graters well on the table from the product - until they break, they are light in weight and even if you drop them on the tiles, they will not get anything.

I will transfer my post on the introduction of the TNS-3000 from another topic:

Quote: CroNa
Quote: dopleta on 06 Jan. 2018, 16:44
although Berner cuts much better.
Also cuts the onion into small cubes 3 * 3 or 2 * 3 and half rings 1mm thick?
Even so, Burner costs 5-6 thousand with additional inserts, and this one cost me 2.400 with the same functions, + thick slices that the respected Burner does not have.

I really needed a grater for onions and cabbage shredders, the tns-ka copes with these functions perfectly, I also use it now to cut the cheese thinly, thinner than in a store on a special slicer. He also takes sausage, but this is pampering, it is easier to wash a knife from fat.
Perhaps, or rather, even most likely, the switch knives of the TNS are dumber than those of the Berner grater, but for me this is even an advantage, I have not yet got used to the fruit holder and I hold almost everything with my hands, so I would have slashed my fingers on sharp knives long ago ( to be honest, I'm afraid I saw him close, touched ...).
No, I am completely satisfied with this grater so far, especially since it takes up very little space, I hung it in the place of the tetrahedral, which I safely wrote off to the mezzanine, and a special platform will be needed to place Berner.

I will also add that this grater is irreplaceable as a slicer. Maybe there are some difficulties with cutting into cube straws, because the knives are not as sharp as those of Berner, but on the other hand, she has the largest cutting range in slices from 1 to 8 mm and the central knife is no worse than Berner's, it is also made of excellent steel.
By the way, this knife can be written out separately, it can be easily replaced at home.





Quote: Svetlenki
Quote: CroNa on Dec 24. 2017, 16:24
and in the compact I will immediately set the thickness of the shredder to 1 or 2 mm and + crosscut 12 mm and in one motion I will get the desired result.

If you can do it with cabbage, CroNa, Gal, please sign off. Or have you already had a positive experience of such work with cabbage? Then it's a really worthwhile unit.
It turned out exactly as I planned: thin "spaghetti" are obtained at a thickness of 1 mm for quick salting, 2 mm long "noodles" for borscht and for stewing, and for a fresh salad, finely chopped "noodles" with a combination of knives, as described above.
Now the cabbage has gone very much oak, so I got such a wonderful assistant very in time.
Vredin @
Quote: CroNa
I will also add that this grater is irreplaceable as a slicer. Maybe there are some difficulties with cutting into cube straws, because the knives are not as sharp as those of Berner, but on the other hand, she has the largest cutting range in slices from 1 to 8 mm and the central knife is no worse than Berner's, it is also made of excellent steel.
Crown, Galina, what are you doing to me, now I also need aaaa ... What does difficulty with straws and cubes mean? Doesn't it cut? And then on the video and carrots, and potatoes and onions planes without problems.
Svetlenki
Quote: CroNa
It turned out exactly as I planned: thin "spaghetti" are obtained at a thickness of 1 mm for quick salting, 2 mm long "noodles" for borscht and for stewing, and for a fresh salad, finely chopped "noodles" with a combination of knives, as described above.

Crown, Galina, is this about a slicer knife?
dopleta
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Doesn't it cut? And then on the video and carrots, and potatoes and onions planes without problems.
She cuts raw vegetables, especially carrots and beets, with great difficulty, since her knives are dull. Sharp main knife only, slicer.
Vredin @
Quote: dopleta
She cuts raw vegetables, especially carrots and beets, with great difficulty, since her knives are dull. Sharp main knife only, slicer.
dopleta, Larissa, thank you, then I will think, otherwise I’ve already revisited where to get it.
dopleta
Here many times the owners of both tiers wrote that if you have a Berner, then there is no need for TNS. The plus is only to save space, but the minuses: the knives are dull, and the fruit holder is much worse than Berner's.
Crown
Quote: Wredin @
KroNa, Galina, what are you doing to me, now I also need aaaa ... And what does difficulty with straws and cubes mean? Doesn't it cut?
Cuts, just cuts perfectly, but you have to make an effort.
It will probably be easier on Burner, judging by its sharp blades.
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CroNa, Galina, are you talking about a slicer knife?
Yes, the main knife is very sharp, the transverse ones are dumber, but coarse winter cabbage normally chops at a thickness of 1 or 2 mm + with 12 mm switch knives, the salad is obtained as from small vermicelli.
And the onion, how she cuts the onion! I already wrote, but I will repeat myself - a small cube, a large cube, medium straw, rings and half rings of any thickness from 1 to 8 mm. Just for the sake of the bow is worth buying.
For the new year, I even chopped potatoes and sausages into cubes on Olivier, without experience it did not work out very well, I still need to train, and I digested a little potatoes, but it turned out quickly.
Quote: dopleta
Here many times the owners of both tiers wrote that if you have a Berner, then there is no need for TNS.
If you need thick slices of 6 - 8 mm, then Berner does not have such a thickness, and he also does not seem to take very thin 1 - 2 mm. Not?
Vredin @
Larissa, so the fact of the matter is that Berner is not and I do not want to. I saw it in the store, very big for me. And here I just coveted the smaller size and the absence of replaceable attachments. The fruit holder is worse, but as I understand it, you can replace it with a Berner one (if you want to), but blunt knives are an iron argument against it.
Galina, and where did you buy it? Look, it's not so easy to buy it.
Cirre
Vredin @, Anna, I didn’t make friends with Berner, it’s not my instrument and a place for it, but TNS is in my use. And the holder suits me. Maybe I'm not right
Svetlenki
Quote: CroNa
If you need 6 - 8 mm thick slices, then Berner does not have this thickness

How is it not? 7 mm there
Vredin @
Quote: Cirre
TNS in my go
Cirre, Galina, and how do you get bars from raw vegetables?
I won't say that I rub vegetables a lot and often. I would like to rub raw carrots and potatoes with cubes and I will be happy!

Did anyone order on the tns-russia website?
Cirre
I rub potatoes, but it's hard with carrots.
dana77
Recently, we are talking about Berner and TNS, and I will insert my 5 cents about the graters Microplane.
Two floats arrived, a holder and a glove.
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I have graters Microplane Professional Extra Coarse Grater 38008 and Microplane 38004 Professional Series Fine Grater
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Now at night I cooked soup for a child and took a few photos. I did not use the holder, because if I had a glove, I did not even take it out.
The glove is just wonderful, I have a small hand (gloves of size 6 are too big for me), so looking at the ones offered on Ali, I didn't even try to buy them.
Microplane, on the other hand, sat like a native, it is very convenient to rub in it, and really without it it is better not even to approach these graters, since they feel sharper than Berner.
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The fine grater 38004 turned out to be very fine, although I bought it for baby food, but it almost turned out puree, in the soup you can't see carrots at all. I think it will be good for the zest. The photo shows the remainder of the carrot, a little more than 1mm remained a piece.
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Coarsely grated potatoes and onions - ideal. Now it will be in use all the time; it's better not to think of it for carrots and onions for frying.
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So I am very pleased with the result and regret that I have run out of money for the entire series. I will buy in addition. But of course not here, since the prices for them are simply not decent. Amazon to help us

On the official website of Microplane I found another such grater, very interested. Adjustable Slicer With Julienne Blade 34040
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Crown
Quote: Wredin @
Galina, where did you buy it? Look, it's not so easy to buy it.
It's easier for me, I live near Moscow, drove into the "White Cat" and bought it out of grief.
There is one office in St. Petersburg, they send it to Russia, but then the colors did not suit me.
Why "out of grief"? That day "Yulmart" despisedly threw me with an order, and I followed him through the cold, the devil knows how far, to a warehouse somewhere outside Domodedovo, and in order not to go completely in vain, I decided to go to "White Cat" drop in. I was sure that they were selling Chinese forgeries, I’ll make sure, I think that it’s a linden tree and I’ll go home with a sense of accomplishment.
The grater turned out to be authentic, I spat on the wrong color (I have an orange one with a dark blue fruit holder) and bought it, since the price here is very democratic - only 2.390.
Vredin @
Quote: CroNa
It's easier for me, I live near Moscow, drove into the "White Cat" and bought it out of grief.
There is one office in St. Petersburg, they send it to Russia, but then the colors did not suit me.
Color is not important to me. In Voronezh I did not find it at all, but from St. Petersburg the delivery will turn out to be 600 rubles, a little expensive. Okay, I'll think, thanks
Svetlana62
Quote: Fifanya
And while I rub on a cheap grater Korean carrots, I could not find it better

Her blades are not rectangular
Anya, thank you for this little girl! At the holidays, I was honored with Korean carrots, I tried a new grape. What can I say, it's not in vain that I dreamed about her for 3 years since Chuchundrus showed her the same on the forum. But then it did not grow together because of the delivery from Kyrgyzstan. Thanks to you, Anya, I now have the same look, the very taste of the Korean carrot, which became authentic for me during perestroika. We in the Trans-Urals then sold just such a carrot. It is much easier to rub on such a grater, since the blades are located at an angle, the thickness of the blocks is 3 mm. (smaller does not taste good to me, larger too). The grater is sharp, I do not fit it without Kevlar gloves. And the blades are slightly corrugated, the cut surface turns out to be slightly swept, due to which the carrot is soaked much faster, and there is no "plasticity" of the blocks, as in other graters. The same effect is obtained on a market wooden shredder for Korean carrots, but the cubes are thin there and rubbing carrots in comparison with this grater from Korea is just hellish torment for me. Thank you, Anya, for making your dream come true!
optimist
Quote: Svetlana62
Anya, thank you for this little girl!
Oh, and what a wonderful grater?
Svetlana62
optimist, Lenusya, on the previous page Anya showed. Answer # 1354.
optimist
Svetlana62, but .... I have one too)




dana77, Dream Gloves!
liliya72
dana77, Natasha, congratulations on your purchase!
Tell me, do microplan gloves fit in size, or are they universal?
optimist
liliya72, on their website they write that one size, the price is 2200 rubles
liliya72
Nonsense, Natasha, and Berner and I have a similar story: I fell out of love with FSE too! The first Berner was bought in 1996, cut like clockwork, is still alive, but, of course, dulled. I bought a new one, and everything is not right, the nozzles are inserted every other time, and not so sharp.
There are a couple of micro-plan graters, but it's a little to rub, that's also in my thoughts: I tend to Status as a large vegetable cutter, there is no need to change the container + nozzles at once, well, the reviews are good. (Well, a small slicer in the company to him
dana77
Quote: liliya72
Tell me, do microplan gloves fit in size, or are they universal?
Lily, Thank you.
Gloves are the same size. But they did not fit into her husband's hand. That is, they stretch, but not that much)))
Quote: optimist
dana77, Dream gloves!
Ooooo yeah)))
Nonsense
Quote: liliya72
Nonsense, Natasha, and Berner and I have a similar story
Lilya,. I'm already thinking of returning the old one to the city, and sending this one into exile.
Aren't you thinking about TNC? I have a lot of graters, but I don't like to use them myself, I'm afraid. I cut myself very badly at one time. And the husband loves only the four-sided, ancient. Otherwise, he will not "swing". I think, I think, no! I don't need another grater! And then - so you want ...
dopleta
Nata, my friend, if your main goal is not to cut yourself, then take it - you won't cut yourself with these knives, nor will you really cut the vegetables! Current if plates. And for this you have a giant!
nadusha
Girls, and what a firm in St. Petersburg, where you can buy these gloves. I also constantly cut myself.
liliya72
Nonsense, Natasha, I will definitely look at TNS, I have not entered this topic for a long time, I need to want something
Crown
Quote: dopleta
you won't cut yourself with these knives, nor will you really cut the vegetables! Current if plates.
But it’s not true! I cut tough cabbage, carrots, radishes, celery and even hard cheese into the finest fine strips. I’m not saying that it’s just like clockwork, but easier than on the classic tetrahedral. And about not cutting yourself, too, be careful, if you swing well, you can also get hurt.
Today or tomorrow I am planning a tougher test for my grater - I will cut raw potatoes, beets and carrots into cubes into a "warm vinaigrette", then I will write off the results.
Nonsense
Quote: dopleta
you won't cut yourself with these knives, nor will you really cut the vegetables!
Lorik, I understand that you (naturally!) Have it. And what is so categorically - no? Not an onion, not a carrot? Well, I really want one thing, but that's it!
Cirre
Crown, Galina, with beets carefully. I could not cut, I was afraid to break the grater
Crown
Cirre, okay, I'll take into account.
dopleta
Quote: CroNa

But it’s not true! ... then I'll sign off on the results.
You just have nothing to compare with except the classic tetrahedral, Galina. If I choose between them, I would also prefer tns. As for the results, they have already been discussed many times on the forum, and if the comparing graters have other graters, except for tetrahedral graters, it is not in favor of tns.
Quote: Nonsense
Not an onion, not a carrot?
Cut the onion, carrots, like other root vegetables - with great effort.
Anna1957
Lorik, this discussion strongly reminds me of yesterday's in one of the topics, doesn't it? It's good that there are no scientific articles on the sharpness of graters.
Jouravl
Quote: dopleta

Cut the onion, carrots, like other root vegetables - with great effort.
All long-handled graters, where the force falls on 2 hands, are difficult to go. Even with a sharp knife, the left hand strains to hold.
Therefore, I like mandolins, there, my left hand only holds the grater, it just lies on the handle, the mandolin is on a stand, and it does not constitute a lot of stress, cut carrots, potatoes, not to mention apples, cheese, cucumbers.
Of course, everyone chooses graters that are right for him, with which it is more pleasant and comfortable to cook. Therefore, personally, I cannot say that the borner is super, I had it and I cannot say that it is convenient
Crown
Quote: dopleta
You just have nothing to compare with except the classic tetrahedral, Galina.
Of course, I am writing that I only held Burner in my hands, but did not use it.
For me, safety is more important than ease of use, I also have simple knives with teeth, because they are dumber and difficult to cut, there is only one even knife for meat, but I rarely sharpen it either. Blunt knives do not strain me, but the holes in my fingers strain extremely, and I consider gloves a perversion, I cannot wash the dishes or clean them in them, let alone cooking.
Quote: Jouravl
Therefore, I like mandolins, there, my left hand only holds the grater, it just lies on the handle, the mandolin is on a stand, and it does not constitute a lot of stress, cut carrots, potatoes, not to mention apples, cheese, cucumbers.
I attach tns-ku on a large plastic bowl, it is firmly held there due to the recesses along the edge.
Berner graters are also placed on special basins.
dopleta
Quote: Nonsense
I understand that you have it (of course!)
Natasha, I then, more than two years ago, bought it, following the delight of people who also did not use other high-quality graters. Although there were sane voices that did not stop me: Different vegetable cutters (Nayser Diser, Alligator, etc.) # 3634
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Answer: rubs, but ... Berner and the Giant are many times better.
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bought tns 3000 something went wrong with me. Berner rubs better.




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Quote: dopleta

While preparing vegetables for the baby now, I decided, instead of grating raw carrots on a grater, to cut them into small cubes on a tske. At the smallest division, nothing worked for me. It turned out only on 4-ke, but I must say that you need to apply much more forces than on the Berner.
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Quote: Sens

I have at the maximum of the longitudinal knives, such a resistance that the knives move down and inward. from which there is undercutting. it is on solid - carrots, beets.
Quote: dopleta

Yes, the cutter (of course, not a cutter, but a shaft with metal plates) moves back and forth with a shaker!
Quote: Sens

I just looked, there this shaft itself bends with an arc inward when pressed from above (with a finger pad) on the knife-plates ...
Anna1957
It is a strange impression that Doplet is forced to make excuses, citing her old experiments with various graters. Lorik, stop, don't waste your time. There is a well-known saying: the smart learn from the mistakes of others, the fools learn from their own. It means that the choice is still yours. I have several people on our forum, whose opinion I trust unconditionally. Doplet is one of those few.
Svetlenki
Quote: Anna1957
It is a strange impression that Doplet is forced to make excuses, citing her old experiments with various graters. Lorik, stop, don't waste your time.

I fully support it. I see the rationale in the "mobile" grater. Still, Berner (I have a pro) does not want to get it for one carrot. But my favorite slicer - always at any time I remove from the carnation and go.

TNS has drawbacks that need to be soberly accepted and, probably, you shouldn't praise and overpraise it, especially if you changed it from a regular grater and dull knives are respected

I cut myself with a blunt grater once soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
dopleta
Quote: Anna1957
don't waste your time
Anyuta, I just advise those who have good vegetable cutters not to look for good from good. And save money. On our site, dozens of TNSs have already been sold by the former owners. But if there is no good grater at all in the kitchen, then this is the way out, yes.
Svetlenki
dopleta, Laris, and speaking of a mobile slicer / grater, what is your favorite?

I now use rocco for soups - radish, carrots in small strips, microfine for cheese - large, medium - ginger, garlic ... All hang on the wall right in front of the nose

What are your preferences?
Nonsense
Somehow I didn’t think that Larisa was making excuses. Just explains what's what. Personally, I don't remember the 2016 discussion anymore. Thank her for that!

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