LiudmiLka
I thought, thought, is it worth speaking out on this topic. But still she made up her mind. I believe that we are SOMETIMES to blame for the unlucky equipment. Before I buy something for a long time, I sit on the internet for months. So it was with the purchase of HP. I found out that they are all made in China. I stumbled across the store and everyone praised Panasonic-255. Immediately I realized that the handicraft, according to the "crooked" unprofessional designations of programs, for example, dumplings there were marked PELMEN., Printed on a printer and inserted into plastic, and plus the sound of working mixers did not suit. It seems to me that the appearance (close inspection) will immediately show whether this thing is used, whether it is handicraft. Some write that the inscriptions are being erased. What the hell is this that costs a couple hundred y. That is, but you can't wipe the inscriptions with alcohol?

Of course, there are often hidden defects. But, having read here about Mul, I walked around them a kilometer away.

My cupcakes burn, too, but they're edible. But I no longer bake them in HP, only in the oven.

: flowers: Kuryanochka, I really like the advice from the IRR to consider this money as payment for the lesson. I always do this too, and I also say that it could have come out more expensive. Spit on her. And if you have a lot of free time, then try to pass. Personally, I am not a fighter, my health is more important to me. But we are all different. In any case, I wish you the next great stove and use the advice of our forum.
Kuryanochka
If you approach philosophically, then it's okay, as my experience is worth a lot in the literal sense of the word, I have now made my contribution for the people-bakers, and if N-th number of people have already refused to buy mulinex, then I am quite satisfied with the result and will consider that I and Moulinex are quits.

I will not carry it to the service, I do not like conflicts. Let him bake as best he can.

P.S. And the paint from the body is erased not from alcohol (it did not come to that), but simply from a soft sponge moistened with water! You see, I decided to wipe it!
And the appearance in the store was (and even now) very attractive, the recipe book is high-quality printing. Everything looks so presentable!
Kuryanochka
Well, here's a photo: this is a 10 cupcake mode, a light crust, baked a gingerbread from a recipe book. I barely broke it out of the bucket, I didn't want to climb out, I was probably ashamed of the manufacturer ...
Bread maker Moulinex OW5002
Bread maker Moulinex OW5002
The bottom view is super, as it shines, as if smeared with tar.
It's delicious inside. I cut off the sides, we'll gobble up the rest.
sazalexter
Kuryanochka Honestly, I'm in shock. In my HP without a cupcake mode, it turned out lighter
snegir
I have 5000 absolutely white crust in my mule ... you can cheat if you smear sour cream + soy sauce before baking .. but still it's not ... I heard that craftsmen are tightening some nut ... maybe someone did this, throw a photo the location of this magic nut and where to turn it. grateful ..
snegir
I want to ask .... I have a pale upper crust .. I decided to tighten the screw, so I want to ask THIS whether the screw should be turned? And you need to weaken it?
Bread maker Moulinex OW5002
WETER22
Gave it to my wife for her birthday. The first bread was baked with a white top and soggy inside. Then they baked sweet bread with a C grade plus, also with a white top. I read it here Let's try to twist the Magic screw First I will inform you about the results
Kuryanochka
You will twist the screw, be careful, otherwise it will unscrew from the part inside there and the sensors will fall down, you will have to open it and you will not have a guarantee, but you can make 2 turns.
You can trick this: bake a smaller loaf by weight. but exhibit the highest weight and of course the darkest crust. And at the end of the program, immediately put the baking mode on for another 5 - 10 minutes.
snegir
By the way, this cog does not turn in any direction (
snegir
eh, I wonder if anyone reads topics about mule ((((
Then I'll leave a photo here with a question - whether to twist THIS cog?
The fact is that it does not spin at all in any direction. even with male hands.
Bread maker Moulinex OW5002
Kuryanochka
Yes, this one above the shadows, we twisted it, it unscrews, something has it stuck to you. Unscrews as standard, counterclockwise. But why do you want to twist it, does it bake it?
snegir
my crust is barely light with excellent sides.
Kuryanochka
If everything else is baked, God bless her. If you really want to brown, put a lighter weight bread on baking, and in the program select the highest weight and dark crust, and if you still quickly brush it with egg yolk before baking, everything should work out. Finally, bake for another 10 minutes if necessary.
Now, if it burns, it's worse. And there is nowhere to twist and not to take out before, it is damp inside ...
People here unscrewed the screw when it was not baked. Good luck. We wanted to tighten it up, but nowhere. The screw is tight.
Gerda1
Quote: snegir

By the way, this cog does not turn in any direction (
spinning, it's just VERY tightly clamped, I couldn't unscrew it a little, but my husband did it, now we have a beautiful crust on the bread
snegir
hmm .. it means to apply masculine strength
Kati
Glitch again !!!!! Something bad luck with the stoves !!!! I read the forum .... about 502430 I did not find anything. Maybe I'm not looking there ...
People who have this model? There program number 1 is a baguette, 2 is buns ... 4 is white bread, 5 is French ...
The problem is that program number 9, declared as "Borodino bread" - this is not borodinsky at all, because it lasts 2 hours and 20 minutes. My searches and comparisons tell me that program 9 is gluten-free bread (judging by the time) ....
The rest baked everything - it turns out very much !!!! I made jam, dough, grain, and simple, and baguettes. No complaints.
I want Borodinsky! What to do?? How do you get out of the situation ???
Crochet
Quote: Katy

I want Borodinsky! What to do?? How do you get out of the situation ???
Kati
I have two stoves, both Mulineshkas, both have the "Borodinsky bread" mode, but I don't use it, I tried it somehow, something didn't work out, not that ... But nevertheless, I bake Borodinsky bread pretty well often ,THIS IS THIS HE GETS FOR ME, like the rest of the rye bread I bake according to the scheme:mode "Yeast dough" (kneading + proofing) + mode "Baking".HERE I was just talking about the baking regime for Borodinsky. True, now I only do one batch, it is quite enough.
Rina
Panasonic also has a fairly short program. I have a suspicion that it was developed for bread mixes
Matilda-N
I have a Moulinex OW 5002 oven so I have the same problems as Kuryanochki, the oven does not bake but burns all the baked goods, the crust is just about 1.5-2 centimeters oak. You can use such a loaf instead of a hammer. Hands drop after such a work of art. I tried to turn off the oven earlier, before the end of baking, the result is also deplorable, the crust is burnt, and the top and middle are not baked. And baking a cupcake is a separate topic - during the baking process it burns so much that smoke pours out of the stove, I am not exaggerating, you just need to see it. I'm so tired of experimenting with this stove. At the stove, dust also forms in the form of a circle under the bucket, where the kneading blades are located. And more recently, during the kneading of the dough - and now I am just kneading in it - one kneading spatula flew off and drew a bucket along the bottom - now a delicious scratch flaunts at the bottom. I do not know whether they will take it for repair or for quality control. I don't want to swear with the shop assistants in the store, but on the other hand, the guarantee may end for it. To say that I am unhappy with the purchase is to say nothing. I want to appeal to potential buyers - think carefully before making your choice
Kuryanochka
Repair urgently under warranty. My oven is against your rest. I can still bake bread at least, but you have a nightmare-rr ...They do not have the right to refuse repairs, there is a marriage on the face, the stove burns, let them do it, more than one person has already done it under the guarantee. And why swear. You will bring bread and show you if you can eat it. You can't miss the stove, it's not an oven! This means that the oven does not perform its main function. About a scratch, they can say that they have not worn a scapula well. It's okay, the coating won't peel off further. Good luck!
Frost
About burning bread. This is the second time my stove has been repaired with this problem.
The first time was "repair of the control board", the second - "replacement of the control board". The point is in the Pechkin's brains - repair under warranty, if possible.
Kuryanochka
How does the oven bake now?
We bought "Alaska" for friends, 12 programs and perfect bread, the pleasure costs 2060 rubles.
And then give more than 7 thousand and rush with her under guarantees
In general, the woman bought a pig ...
Frost
I gave five thousand. The stove is still under repair, the detail is awaiting. This fee. In the short interval between the first and second repairs it baked well. That's right! And then, somehow, suddenly again, she began to burn. Even before baking, I felt that the heating of the dough had become too strong. And exactly - a coal at the exit. I’m persistent - I want it either well or not. If it breaks a third time, I will replace it. In the meantime, I bake in the oven. Store bread is no longer perceived in any way.
Kuryanochka
Wow price difference !!! And I fell for the brand. Now she's a scientist. Or some leftist is coming to us. Moreover, the whole trick is that the oven is kind of heated up, it sets fire to white bread, not sweet, more and more.
Throw out nafig, buy Alaska on the principle.
Matilda-N
I haven't been in this thread for a long time, I took the stove to the store along with the product that I baked in it on the advice Kuryanochki , the sellers took it to say the least reluctantly, putting forward the assumption that I was doing something wrong, they said that maybe the wrong recipe, the ingredients need to be changed. : - \ I say that for that kind of money, only one function is used in the stove - a test. The result of such a furnace was taken for verification. ka-quality.... And I also wanted to ask someone who knows what temperature should be in the oven during baking, we measured the temperature at my oven was over 250 gadus.
Pakat
Matilda-N, very high temperature ...
In my bread maker, the temperature is regulated 300 - 375 F, 150-190 C, respectively, and the normal baking temperature in many cycles is 336 F, 169 C. Think about it ...
Matilda-N
Bread maker Moulinex OW5002
Kuryanochka
Just super, can do brick burning, profitable business .....
I just tuned in for a long time, how it will break down to buy a new one, I will not run with it, I can not stand it ...
And after baking, I put rye bread in a plastic bag, so as not to break my teeth on the crust, and so it gets wet, you look and gnaw bread.
And the stirrers will probably have to be removed before the last rise, yesterday it was just who was who: I fought with a loaf, barely pulled them out of the womb, again with shreds of crumb. You take some kind of childbirth ..... And there are two more! It’s as if the advantages (it bribed a lot in the store) can turn into disadvantages!
tatulja12
Matilda, here it is yeah !!! This is not a bread machine, but some kind of crematorium! You can see how the smoke is coming down.
Lili-ill
Hmm, I'm new on the forum. I have been studying the forum since yesterday. I stopped at the choice in favor of Mulinex, and here such passions.
Today I wanted to buy Moulinex OW 6002, and now I don't know what to do. Forum users, help with the choice, please!
Admin
Lili-ill
Thank you very much.
Frost
I just took my stove from the second repair. Now I will test on buckwheat bread.
By the way, both the first and the second time they took it for repairs without a single objection. M. Video Service. The second time I had a black loaf with me, I took it as an argument. But the renovation was done without a single objection, and the loaf was photographed as a hint for the master.
I will report the result of the first baking.
Gypsy
no words
Kuryanochka
The most important thing is that after some time has passed, history does not repeat itself.I'd like to know the result.
Frost
First baking, basic mode (first):
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750 grams (small bread), medium crust. In my opinion, it does.
Moreover, creamy breads are fried more strongly.
Now there is rye-whole grain with apple and malt on 8 Omega3 mode - I'll show you how to bake it.
Frost
Here, I'm showing.
Rye 325 grams, whole 125 grams, wheat sun 75 grams, malt, apple. Omega3 mode, 1kg, light crust.
Bottom (I haven't even taken out the stirrers yet):
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Barrel:
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Full face:
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The crust is really light. The roof is flat, it took me a month and a half to get out of the habit of baking, everything is in the oven. Moreover, I opened the lid every 15 minutes - I felt it, smelled it ...
So we value the service, the loss of time is more than compensated by the pleasure of the result!
Kuryanochka
Well, it seems to me that the crust is not painfully light (creamy bread), I just have someone to compare with (two bread machines of other brands from relatives), then we can assume that my oven bakes normally (except for sweet, it burns). But oak peels kill me ...
Will the cupcake work? (Judging by these crusts, it can burn ...)
Matilda-N
I got my money back after checking the quality of the bread machine. I bought a Panasonic bread maker and didn’t turn yellow, I had already baked the first bread from the oven recipe book in it. I liked the result.
Frost
Quote: Kuryanochka

Well, it seems to me that the crust is not painfully light (creamy bread), I just have someone to compare with (two bread machines of other brands from relatives), then we can assume that my oven bakes normally (except for sweet, it burns). But oak peels kill me ...
Will the cupcake work? (Judging by these crusts, it can burn ...)
Kuryanochka, I haven't tried the cupcake yet. On the first - creamy bread - the crust was medium, and the bread was BUCKWHEEL, dark. Normal crust. Not tough, exactly. And on the rye is not tough and not thick. Yesterday I made a white simple one with garlic (from the instructions). French mode is lovely! crust that's it thin and crispy.
There will be no photos yet, the camera is on a business trip.
Now the next in line is sweet bread and cake. I'll tell you. Maybe I will.
Matilda, happy for you! Successful breads to you! (after this crematorium ...)
Kuryanochka
Well, this story should have ended fairly! So you can fix it all. If I come to the workshop with a smart look and tell me that my control board is junk .......
The cupcake should now come out.
Matilda-N
Thank you all for your support, if not for this forum I would have been sitting with my defective stove. ... Now I'm getting used to Panasonic. I like bread from Panasonic, but I miss the window, and it seems to me that Moulinex's controls are simpler, but maybe I'm not used to it yet. But the bread that is obtained in Panasonic is definitely pleasing!
Frost
Quote: Matilda-N

But the bread that is obtained in Panasonic is definitely pleasing!
And this is the most important thing!
Frost
Kuryanochka, I continue to report. Today I put sweet bread - "Butter bread with raisins" from the instructions (only replaced 100 grams of flour with whole flour). 1 kg, light crust. And what do you think? turned off the stove 20 minutes before the end of the cycle. left standing in the stove - to walk. The dough came up - super, began to bake - it took out above the bucket. But I smell that it is already good - and the color of the top is quite dark. I tried it the old fashioned way with a skewer - everything seems to be normal inside, I would have pulled it out of the oven already. Well, she turned it off. Tomorrow, if the fotik (and my husband! I bake him!) Comes back from a business trip, I'll take a photo.
Kuryanochka
My number "turn off early" in the baking program did not work. The crust was already burning, but inside it was all damp !!!
Frost
In the morning I cut butter bread - I already doubt my words of yesterday. Fully baked, the bottom crust is burnt. Well, it can't be 20 minutes before the end of the program! 2 minutes still looks like the truth. Glitches. I will still experience.
Gypsy
I don’t move in, your stoves are defective, and instead of handing them over to the store, you are trying to adapt them for baking?
Frost
Gypsy, I'm trying to fix it. two times has already been under repair. Here, I tell my colleagues in misfortune.
Gypsy
and not cheaper to buy another x \ n, cheaper? it seems to me it is not reasonable to translate so many products

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