Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

if you buy on Ozone, that is, to try it for 2 months and return if you don't like it. is not it so? and all the agony of choice will end

[what if...]

and if there is money for this joy ...

Here are the keywords-what if...

... And as you know, everything new cannot be kept up

That's for sure. We are just different. This is not the first year I have had a Rolsen KW-3026 stove and I don't need another one. I understand that there is better, but mine bakes normally, I am quite happy with it, and therefore I am not going to change

[Olga]

if you buy on Ozone, that is, to try it for 2 months and return if you don't like it. is not it so?

Olga, Would you like to buy used equipment? If everyone bought first, and then returned after testing, because he simply did not like it. Would you buy after someone else?

Is it really possible on Ozone: use it for two months and return it?

[Olga]

Is it really possible on Ozone: use it for two months and return it?

Olga, of course you can't.

You can only return it like that. Copied from Ozone.

Have you received the product and realized that it does not fit? Do not worry!

It's simple: return the item in its original condition * within 60 days.

More details

* Original condition: the packaging should not be opened, the product should not have been in use, its presentation and consumer properties (including the remaining shelf life) should be preserved.

Would you like to buy used equipment?

so they then sell it at a discount, cheaper. and there, everyone decides to buy such equipment or not. some buy precisely because it is cheaper, they do not look that the package has been opened. on Ozone, after all, they write what kind of defect there is and why the markdown. you never know why a person wants to hand over the goods, maybe for some reason it does not suit him, for example, exactly how the unit works, the functionality, the result obtained, etc. I, of course, if I returned the equipment to them, it was due to a breakdown. to just hand over - did not try. nevertheless, this is an online store, a person bought a "pig in a poke", and then he does not like this product for some reason. I, for example, would not be surprised if they repair goods handed over due to a breakdown and then sell them again at a discount. according to the law, you have the right to return the product within 2 weeks, it seems, if it just did not suit you.

on Ozone, after all, they write what kind of defect there is and why the markdown

Yeah they write for defects.
But about the fact that they used the technique and did not like it, but in good condition, I have never seen this on Ozone.

But about the fact that they used the technique and did not like it, but in good condition, I have never seen this on Ozone.

they will not sell faulty equipment, why should they sell faulty equipment?

they will not sell faulty equipment, why should they sell faulty equipment?

What are you writing about now? I have NOT written anything about the faulty technique anywhere.

Further, I consider the conversation inappropriate.

I am writing about this - when it says the packaging is opened - what does it mean in your opinion? who opened it and why? just for fun? I, of course, do not assert anything, because I am simply not aware of such details, but maybe in this way they sell repaired equipment that was already in use? why then on the Ozone invoice it is written - "the goods did not fit? Just return it in its original condition with the preservation of the presentation for 60 days"? how can you understand that he did not fit if the person did not use it?

Further, I consider the conversation inappropriate

as you wish. I do not impose anything on anyone, I just made an assumption

And I remember her mini-stove Shtebu, how I remember and how she praised her

And I, Lyudochka, first of all, always praise everything, because everything is interesting and unknown.Then I lose interest and look for flaws. I don’t have a single unit with which the first and eternal love would develop. This is probably why I no longer have an apartment, but a warehouse of household appliances.
I've been in Shteba for all these three years baking without convection, and here for the first time I took the instruction and decided to read it. I read and read that I also have this very convection!
Wow! I liked it very much!
So I think that Gemlux is even more Wow!

[Rituslya]

I don’t have a single unit with which the first and eternal love would develop.

Rituslya, Rita, it is sad . I have to buy something new. Perhaps this will be the new stove. After all, she liked something, just ask around about the size of the baking sheet, the height between the shades, etc. Moreover, the experience of using such a stove is already there.
Bliiin, as if I myself do not want this HEMLUX. It is so convenient that the temperature of the upper and lower shades can be adjusted separately. Ooooh, getting sick, getting infected, but no complications so far

[Ritulya]

So I think that Gemlux is even more Wow!

Ritulya, it is useless to treat you You cannot be treated
If it came to panties the fact that without this stove, life was lived in vain, then buy of course.
But remember that your ideal is ahead, wang that this is not the last stove ...

[Natul]

Oh, Natul, stops the fact that money is pitiful. It's a pity, otherwise I would have bought it long ago. And I have no extra places. What are superfluous ?! I don't have a place at all, I go into the kitchen sideways.

It's so convenient that the temperature of the upper and lower shades can be adjusted separately

aaaaa, me, too, this function is very, very much!

[Rituslya]

money is stingy. It's a pity, otherwise I would have bought it long ago. And I have no extra places.

Rituslya, first sell your Shteba, and then you can buy a new stove with a clear conscience
Although, I suspect that I don't want to part with Shteba either.

[Mila56]

I don't have a place at all, I go into the kitchen sideways.

Ritual swap the hall with the kitchen and you will be happy

first sell your staff

Mila56, Ludmila, Rituyla previously wrote that her daughter put her eyes on the stove. So Ritulya is motivated by the fact that you can give this stove to your daughter and buy a new one for yourself.

I'm taking the stove tomorrow ...

Rituyla previously wrote that her daughter put her eyes on the stove.

Then you can please yourself and your daughter.

[Irina]

I'm taking the stove tomorrow ...

Irina, Hurrah. We look forward to hearing from you a detailed report and impressions. I think you will like the stove and will not disappoint ...

Then you can please yourself and your daughter.

Of course, you can please yourself and your daughter, if finances allow.

Yesterday I tested this device. 1838. My impressions. The stove is light, the walls are thin. The door is flimsy. (This is a comparison to a full oven.) The top gets very hot. The side walls are tolerant. The stove is not small. Very convenient setting of programs, time, temperature and everything else. It heats up very quickly, did not detect, I think a maximum of 2 minutes before working. It cools down (walls) too quickly. Roomy enough, I fit a 29cm diameter baking dish. The people wrote that they did not keep the temperature. I have experienced upper and lower heating, it keeps the temperature. Well, it looks stylish.

She baked pies. Two downloads at once. Those that stood at the top were baked in 5 minutes. Which surprised me a lot, in connection with which the question. How long does it take you to bake pies, at what setting, what temperature and at what level? The second batch was baked at an average level with the top-bottom mode, 150 top, 170 bottom. It took 15 minutes.

Irina, hurray. We look forward to hearing from you a detailed report and impressions. I think you will like the stove and will not disappoint ...

Yes, yes, we are really looking forward to it, let everything be wonderful!

[Rituslya]

Rituyla previously wrote that her daughter put her eyes on the stove.

So then there is no question! I started to take! I still won't calm down until you buy, I know from myself
Rituslya, take it! Treat yourself!

[Dinochka]

Those that stood at the top were baked in 5 minutes.

fast so! What a little stove!
In my ovens, the average time is 20-25 minutes, and the temperature is about 180. Of course, in 5 minutes it has never worked.
Dinochka, I have nowhere to put a new oven. My daughter changed her mind about taking for herself, and collecting stoves is not included in my plans at all. Therefore, I will read and be happy for others.

The top gets very hot.

in Shtebe the top is also heated. I keep glasses with mugs at Shteba, so I won't say that heating is directly scalding.

She baked pies. Two downloads at once. Those that stood at the top were baked in 5 minutes. Which surprised me a lot, in connection with which the question. How long does it take you to bake pies, at what setting, what temperature and at what level? The second batch was baked at an average level with the top-bottom mode, 150 top, 170 bottom. It took 15 minutes.

And to taste, how did the pies come out in such a record time?

In my small (but not at all fancy), too, very quickly all the dough grasps / bakes, which ultimately suffers from taste and splendor. I try to twist myself in order to stretch this business for a standard half hour, but all the same, in a large oven, pies come out more magnificent and tender. Yes, and hearth bread too. Spat, gave up while experimenting.

And to taste, how did the pies come out in such a record time?

Well done. On the upper shelf, close to the heating element, and the temperature, I first left both the top and bottom 180 degrees (as per the instructions). I can not insert a photo from the tablet, it is evident that it is large, but I do not know how to reduce it.

I can not insert a photo from the tablet, it is evident that it is large, but I do not know how to reduce it.

And go to "Preview", there is a link to posting in the local gallery above the message field on the right in red. True, the photo will lose much in detail, but at least something. ((

I never put the baking sheet on top right away. First to the lower level 180 * top and bottom. After 10 minutes, I look at the pies at how the bottom is baked (until the crust is slightly fried), then I rearrange it to the upper level and subtract t * on the lower shadow to 170 * Upper shadow 180 * or a little more. The pies are tall and lush. Sometimes I turn on convection if the dough was kneaded like Khrushchev's (approach and fermentation in the refrigerator). Here convection works well and raises the dough in front of our eyes in 5-6 minutes. Then I turn it off and bake the pies as usual. It takes 20-25 minutes to bake. sometimes less, depending on the test itself. I like the pies to be ruddy on all sides and I do not like it when the pies stick together during proofing, so I try to put them away from each other on a baking sheet.

My pies finally managed to insert a photo

[Igch]

Igch, cute!
And the bottoms? It’s hard to believe that on the upper level, if there was a second loaded baking sheet from the bottom, in five minutes the bottom was properly browned. Or was convection turned on there?

Something is missing Irina, Swan-Chaika, probably admires the new oven

[Igch]

Igch, cute!
And the bottoms? It’s hard to believe that on the upper level, if there was a second loaded baking sheet from the bottom, in five minutes the bottom was properly browned. Or was convection turned on there?

Convection included, yes.
I was glad that it keeps the temperature, but in vain. Now I put the chicken legs, bottom heating, set the temperature to 175, the oven warmed up to 250. The bottom began to burn, although the baking sheet is at an average level. Reduced to 160 degrees and turned on convection. Now the thermometer is showing 190 degrees. That's it. People, how are you?

[Igch]

Igch, oh, it's a shame how, but maybe it just "glitched" once.
Please write. Tell us. In fact, this is very helpful in choosing.

In Shteba, too, "glitched", but in the direction of the correct operation of the device. What she had in her brain suddenly, so only she knows.

Beautiful girls, I am not lost! Forgive the asshole. I just had my granddad as a guest with an overnight stay (a year and 8 months). Schaz will report. Yesterday they took the stove, but I only had time to prepare it for work. Beautiful! A little about the technical side (I do not want to compare with the stationary - different "weight categories"):
distance between heating elements 23 cm
baking sheet 41.5x31 useful 37.5x27
Heats up:
back wall and top - very strong
lateral - very warm
the door handle and switches are warm.
A good function - when the backlight and convection buttons are pressed at the same time, it shows the current temperature (I can not check - there is no thermometer yet).
The switches are very convenient! It's good that the modes brought up the display - they are clearly visible, you don't need to look somewhere around the handle.
One negative point - in the morning I decided to boil milk for yogurt in the oven: enamel. saucepan + 3 liter can of milk - the grate withstood, but caved in.
The general impression is that I fell in love with her!

I was glad that it keeps the temperature, but in vain. Now I put the chicken legs, bottom heating, set the temperature to 175, the oven warmed up to 250. The bottom began to burn, although the baking sheet is at an average level.

Does she herself write that it is 250 degrees? Or does an extraneous thermometer show? If the latter, then maybe the installation locations of the measuring devices are very different? For example, the oven measures at the top, and when the upper heater is turned off, the error simply must be, because all the heat has accumulated between the lower heating element and the baking sheet. ((

After lunch, the grandson was taken away and I decided to bake bread on ripe dough (I stole the recipe from HP - I don't remember from whom, sorry).
This is at the beginning of baking

Type of finished bread


Baking with steam for 40 min. The first 10 minutes top - 200, bottom - 230, then 180 and 210, without convection.
Baking in the form for cakes - they don't have to stand for a whole year waiting for Easter! I like to bake in them - the bread is baked well, the crust is thin. It's too early to cut, just pulled it out.
I'm sooooo happy!

Baking with steam for 40 min.

Irina, is there such a function in the stove to bake with steam?
I had such an option at AG Hotter, but as a result, so nonsense is nonsense.

[Rituslya]

Rituslya, There is no such function! I just put a mug of boiling water in the oven. Sometimes for a few minutes, sometimes until the end of baking.

the door handle and switches are warm.

my handle of the top ten gets very hot. stronger than the lower shadow handle

bottom heating, set the temperature to 175, the oven warmed up to 250.

on the contrary, both shades were set at 230 degrees, the thermometer shows a maximum of 200. and even sometimes the temperature drops to 180. then it rises again. but this is only in one mode. other modes keep the temperature well. I don't even know if it's the oven or the thermometer. before that there was Simfer and there was the same problem with the temperature, it was on the thermometer lower than the one that was exposed by me.

I had a thermometer, measured the temperature in the built-in full-fledged oven, the difference was 20 degrees (the thermometer showed less than the oven). Perhaps there is an error in the measurement, and the choice of the wrong place (I hung it on the grate and it dangled between the heating element and it). I will continue to test))), interesting.
In any case, my chicken dances with a thermometer did not affect in any way and she, baked, rosy, was eaten with great pleasure for dinner.
My conclusions are that you need to adapt to any technique.

Perhaps there is an error in the measurement, and the choice of an unsuccessful place (I hung it on the grate and it dangled between the heating element and it)

and I have the same.

My conclusions are that you need to adapt to any technique.

that's for sure.

[Irina]

Irina, Thank you! Left to order

[marishka]

marishka, Marina! Have you ordered? which one?

[Irina,]

Irina, GL-OR-2045LUX with a discount, will be brought to the pick-up point 3.05

I kept licking my lips at 1845, but it is the cheapest 9900, I just couldn't make up my mind ..And then 8350r and my oven is already quite on the verge.

And when they issue it, they just give it a visual check? Are they not plugged into an outlet?

And when they issue it, they just give it a visual check? Are they not plugged into an outlet?

can check most likely. at least we have such a possibility at the pick-up point

Marishka! Upon receipt, they asked: will we include? Sure, we will! They unpacked it, put it on the table, and I got it. The worker stood beside him in bewilderment, and with instructions in hand I checked all the modes, all the preset parameters, turned the switches, turned on the grill, convection, lighting, licked the oven and baking sheet with my eyes and fingers from all sides. By the way, I ordered on the 28th, and the SMS was sent already at lunchtime on the 27th! So maybe you will get the 3rd one even earlier!
Yesterday I saw a little pleasantness at the stove. I don't know, maybe this is the case for everyone? - 2-3 minutes after the program was turned off, all the displays went out and the little blue dot on the stove power button remained blinking. Maybe you can leave her like that? but I pulled it out anyway. Sorry, I switched to you. To me for sure on you - well, I don't like Vykat with like-minded people!



My agony of choosing a stove (that's funny now)

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I'm testing the oven so far only on baked goods. Fender dough today.
I put it in shape

At the beginning of baking

Result

Cooked well. The top is a little tanned, but I'm not used to the fact that this oven bakes faster than my stationary oven. In mine, I immediately baked at 230, and then reduced it to 200. Here I set the top 200, the bottom 230 and after 5 minutes I urgently reduced 150 and 180 for another 15 minutes. We urgently need to look for a thermometer, while everything is intuitive!

Irina,

Girls, if you take to the online thread (photo park), then you don't have to check. The first 7 days are taken back without problems and abuse. I do not abuse, but I handed over the goods a couple of times. Portable acoustics, it didn't have the mode I needed. And the cell phone - the sound was bad. I changed the phone to another model, I just passed the acoustics. And under the guarantee, no problem, it only happens that the deadlines do not fit. My store is within walking distance. I buy everything I need from them. Sometimes it is more expensive by 100-200 rubles, but next to it, there is no going anywhere and all problems are solved without nerves.

Girls, if you take to the online thread (photo park), then you don't have to check. The first 7 days are taken back without problems and abuse. I do not abuse, but I handed over the goods a couple of times.

Well, I told you that it is possible. depends on the store. and they took up arms against me, as if I voiced some sedition

I have nothing to do with the store, except that I lived in the next house. Now I have moved to half a stop, but still not far.