Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

I asked here about the Clatronic MBG 3113 oven (aka Bomann MBG 1248 CB), but received no answer. There are no owners or something. But I bought it anyway. I liked the design, 26 liters volume and quite normal power of 1600W and heat-resistant enamel, with which everything is well rubbed off. Yes, and in the consumer test they responded well to it (enamel was just mentioned there).
Amazing things are happening in Yulmart, for many years, as they say. I decided to look at Klantronica at a discount (there is also Bomann, he also reserved it just in case, but it's far from home and the price for me is 2393 rubles (2590r) - a crack on the middle handle, but the guarantee is full). The deformation of the case was declared and without a guarantee (the point of issue is near the house), but, like Bohmann, the complete set, excellent packaging and completely serviceable. I decided that if the spit works and the tank has not passed it, then I will take it, because I can bend the heating elements, whatever the heel wants (and they all four are generally straight there), and you can find switches and a thermal sensor in Chipdeep and electronics. The manager brought and began to look. There is no deformation, stands on four legs, the door closes, everything rises inside (baking sheet and grate), the spit turns, the heating elements work in all modes, convection works. Sold was worried that he had brought something wrong, he double-clicked the barcode, and in the end I saw a big green toad in his eyes. Honestly, he just almost cried. There is no warranty card and this is a minus. But there is no deformation either, and everything is new in the kit, including heating elements that have started to burn. I finished it off by saying: I definitely take it, until Yulmart changes his mind. Not surprising, given the price tag for me at 964 rubles (1070 rubles). At home I checked the operation of the timer and temperature sensor. Everything is working! It's easy to get stupid!
In addition to this stove, I took a completely new GFGril GF-150 grill on my DR with a full guarantee from a discount, which has a declared crack on the handle (I have not found it so far) for 3332 rubles and a Philips HD 3134/00 cartoon (I did not want to spend on a new one, but I also wanted to take a good model; I took a Philips s / c from repair with a year guarantee) for 1318 rubles. Everything is fully equipped and in excellent condition. The multi cup did not seem to be used at all.
Maybe someone will consider me too frugal, but I have already assembled a bunch of computers from discount components (with a guarantee, but at a significantly lower price) and customers have no problems. It is not worth taking everything in a row, essno.
That's it. Now a cooking test awaits her today.
I also take the Montiss KIM5800M ice cream maker with a full 2-year guarantee for 496 rubles for me (650r) without a spatula, which I will make at the plant from fluoroplastic. )) The interest is purely sporting, there seems to be no special need, but I don't mind trying my ice cream and finding out what it is.

[SHA]

SHAWhere are you finding such a shop with a large selection?

on Ladozhskaya, ave. Kosygin, 21, building 1. under the store "Narodny", it seems 32 place. there are only 3 points with stoves, but this one has a whole wall. I suspect there are also other mid-market places.
PS: they are cheap and cheerful - no backlight, convection, but 3 switches are everywhere. volumes - about 30.40.50 liters.

is there really no lx turbo in St. Petersburg? !! and I began to lean towards her ... ((

more ps:
there is a delta, Saturn and something on the "a", which is analogous to the delta.

no, without backlighting, I was categorically opposed to taking it, and I wanted convection))))))) Then I looked at the label on my stove. Rated power - 1800W, power consumption - 1.1 kW / h. That's why I think that my electricity bills are not wildly jumped))))

[SHA]

SHAI couldn't find the turbo. But I searched online shopping. And nowhere.It can be eaten in small retail outlets. Or maybe because of the rise in the euro, they are holding back the technique?

Well, the stove with an initiative. Grilled chicken on a spit, and baked potatoes at the bottom. Chipu wanted to take as little as possible, because the smaller it is, the tastier, but less than 1.68 kg. Have not found. I didn't invent anything with seasoning, I bought one ready for birds. Rubbed it with salt on top and inside (more inside). The potato is red. I took, which does not boil. Everything was cooked perfectly, the seasoning was on the topic, the potatoes were a little weathered and it felt like they collapse when you chew. I cut it quite large and just put it on a baking sheet, melting the fat from the chick on it.
On the stove: a little more powerful than a heating element or a little thermal insulation near the oven itself, since ventilation for two heating elements at the stove is clearly too much. Immediately I did not turn on the grill, but both heating elements and warmed up to 100 °, and then switched to the grill. Otherwise, the temperature will take longer. I put the thermometer on the potatoes straight. In the process, it showed 98 ° C, which is not surprising, since only the upper 800W are working. But I expected more T. After Nyam, my daughter said that it was awesomely tasty (we hadn’t had a grill for a long time) and the potatoes were classy, ​​although they were a bit fat. The chicken's crust crunches, everything inside is juicy and soft. Well, to spoil the chicken, you need to either burn it, or use the seasoning is not the topic. Sometimes the chicken itself is not tasty, but I ate this only a couple of times.
Tomorrow we are planning to bake braided bread with cheese and ham. There are only three levels for the baking sheet and, in order to guess the height, when baking, the baking sheet will have to be turned upside down and put on the very bottom - it will be the very thing. There is no silicone mat yet, so I will bake at the bottom of the pan. I didn't wash it on purpose, I'll see how the frying goes tomorrow (I drove for 5-7 minutes at the end of cooking on all heating elements with convection). The coating seems to be simple enamel. After cooking, not a single spray was found on the inside of the stove. As if nothing was being prepared at all.
As for heating, you will not get a burn. Around 55-60 ° C during grilling was at the top. Only the back wall is very hot. It was generally possible to hold on to the sides, and the glass at the door (it is double), although hot, but not so much. You can hold your hand for a while. You can only touch the top for half a second. But it was a grill, the stove doesn't heat up so much on it. In general, tomorrow is the second part of the Merleson ballet.
PS: potholders for the pallet and for the skewer come in handy in the kit. The oven is quiet, but you can hear what is working.

Instead of the native pallet, the Clatronic MBG 3113 (aka Bomann MBG 1248 CB) you can use the form Taller TR-6302 with reinforced coverage "Quantum 2"... It is only 1-2 cm deep in depth.
The native pallet was washed without any problems absolutely. Not surprising when you consider that the T was small.

There are only three levels for the baking sheet and, in order to guess the height, when baking, the baking sheet will have to be turned upside down and put on the very bottom - it will be the very thing.

great idea
p.s. with a good start

and I choose everything, choose and never choose. Can anyone help?
you need a small stove 28-33l, with lighting and a spit. up to 600-800 UAH

[1oksi1]

1oksi1, Thank you.
Now I'm preparing buns with chicken roll and cheese for baking. The oven allows for proofing.
Well, since the oven is not under warranty, I will "insulate" the cabinet itself and turn off the convection and put the backlight on. Less electricity will eat and warm up faster. We'll have to look for a similar three-position switch.
In St. Petersburg Yulmat on Leninsky at a discount there is a Bomann MBG 1248 CB with a full guarantee for 2640 rubles. I would take it if I broke off with this one.

Bake. Unfortunately, those that were baked on an inverted baking sheet were burnt at the bottom and decently. And the egg leaked when greasing the rolls on it. We'll have to put some foil on the bottom. The ones in the photo were baked from the grate above the baking sheet, but I accidentally cut in the upper heating elements, I realized a little late.
I bought a Taller TR-6302, but, apparently, there is a discrepancy with the dimensions.With the handles removed, literally a millimeter is not enough to enter freely. I entered with an interference, but in the guides near the stove there is a selection in the middle, so that the handles almost fall through. Well, okay, I'll fix it. In the photo this form.


The temperature on the oven handle differs from the thermometer by 10-15 ° C. And, if you cook in it only on the lower heating elements, you should not expect more than 160 ° С. Or cover some of the ventilation holes. The heating element at the bottom in the middle is not enough, it would be the very thing.
It seemed to me that 26 liters is the minimum (well, maybe there is a higher oven with such a liter ...), if you cook something else while grilling on the tray below. Chick 1.68kg almost scrabbled over it.
Convection at the stove always works, the spit can rotate in any of the operating modes of the heating elements, and not only at the top.

All! I bought it! Uraaaa! Many thanks to all for the advice !!! Now I have Rolsen 3526. It has already been calcined. In the evening we will try to bake puff pastry.
The shape is round with a diameter of 30 cm. It fits perfectly into it. And the height seems to me good for baking cakes. Only with the proofing there will probably be problems. I don't have a thermometer, but I even feel with my hand that at 100 grams. she is very hot.

[tata-nata]

tata-nata, Congratulations on your purchase !!! I was glad to help with the choice. Love your stove and it will delight you !!!!

[Krasatulya 07]

Krasatulya 07, Thank you. If not for you, then I would have been poking around in the stoves, "like a pig in oranges."
The puffs are already baked, beautiful, ruddy. The children almost all heard their ears. It would be necessary to get another baking sheet. But where?

But I nevertheless decided on Brand 3601. The volume of the oven is 30 liters, it fits perfectly into our kitchen. Yesterday they ignited and made a charlotte in the evening, the children were so happy
In short, who needs a stove with burners - I recommend it. It is impossible to forget to turn it off - the timer turns off the power automatically after a specified time (not only the oven, but also the hotplates). Backlight and convection available. The convection works so quietly that I peered into the fan for about 10 minutes: did it work at all I liked that all the heating elements have independent control from each other. During the operation of the oven, the door handle did not heat up at all (it worked for 50 minutes). The only inconvenience: on the regulators you will not immediately see where the pointer is directed, but this is not critical and was easily corrected with white acrylic paint.
In vain I was afraid of her, in general)) Now I will learn from the local gurus to cook)

[tata-nata]

tata-nata, Very nice to hear good from you !!! When I got to know my stove, I was surprised every time !!! And what Easter cakes I had ........ For the first time in my life !!!! Like this!!! I bake on the wire rack instead of the second baking sheet. You just need to cover it with baking paper or a silicone mat. Good luck and happiness !!!! Health for the kids !!!

[Krasatulya 07]

Krasatulya 07, Thank you. How are you doing the proofing?

[tata-nata]

tata-nata, I have a stove of the previous generation, that is, 3025 ..... And in it the temperature starts from 0 ... 65 * С So I do the proofing. This model was discontinued and updated to 3026. I took mine from the last batch. I think you will adapt too ...

Purely out of interest ... Are the Clatronic MBG 3113 / Bomann MBG 1248 CB ovens not listed? Although the manufacturer is not outstanding. Proofing can be done in them, "warm" heating elements are caught and the temperature is clearly not 50, but lower.

[Krasatulya 07]

Krasatulya 07, clear. I'll think.

Lettera, Yesterday, when I was baking eclairs, and the baking temperature oh-oh-oh (set 230, the thermometer showed 220), I put my hand to the hot stove, as I promised (I wouldn’t get addicted to perverted experiences by God)
So, you can hold onto the side walls, albeit hot, and at a distance of 2 cm the hand is not even warm. The roof is VERY hot, it didn't reach the back wall, but, in my opinion, it's also hot. It is important: outside the window it is 18 frost, in the kitchen it is cool, I think it is not higher than +18, the stove is on a metal shelf from Ikea, open on all sides - ventilation is unimpeded.
So if in a locker, then gaps are necessary (I think at least 5 cm from the sides, 10 cm from above)

Vita, thank you very much!

I will definitely not get 10 cm from above, if I take it into the closet, I will probably stick on top of foil or thin thermal insulation with foil.
Initially, it was supposed to be on the tabletop, but without a drawer on the table it is so free

Owners of Redber 4290 tell me if the convection works loudly: my husband gave it yesterday, when I tried to turn on the convection mode, the sound of a working fan seems to be heard, but it is quiet and I do not feel the thrust. what is wrong with the stove?

[lulya pill]

lulya pill, Convention mode runs quietly. And about the thrust-palm, touch the inside of the stove where the circle is on the right with holes. There should be a breeze from there. Just before that, put fewer degrees so as not to shrink.

and I don't feel the pull.

It blows noticeably if you bring your hand ... and there is a fan sound.

[Lettera]

Lettera, I thought I could use a silicone mat as thermal insulation. If you glue it to the shelf of the cabinet above the stove, it will not let it heat up.
Sometimes I have a silicone mat on the stove (so it is always at hand) and I put a baking sheet on it (when I bake in a form on the wire rack, it turns out to be superfluous). It would be necessary to remove these "riches" for the duration of baking, so as not to complicate cooling, but I do not always remember. So, if the baking sheet lies directly on the stove, then it heats up a lot, and if on a silicone mat, it is barely warm.
When the kitchen was made to order, they put a silicone mat under the dish drainer. It is a very neutral light gray color, cut out of a large canvas to fit the cabinet. I think that if you stick it on, it will be almost invisible.

[lulya pill]

lulya pill, there is a sound from the fan, and there is also a draft, when I baked in a form with baking paper, the corners of the paper very much swayed from the fan.

Girls, owners of DEX DTO-420C! You may be asked to measure the exact width of the oven between the slots (where the wire rack is inserted).

Thank you

Finish work, find a tape measure, measure Dex (in an hour somewhere).

The fan creaks, let's see what happens next. Yesterday we even managed to drive the temperature to the desired level. I will fight further.
Even with all this, I'm happy as a baby elephant !!! How many years it was impossible to bake a "zebra" normally! And in the electric oven it turned out! Urrraaaaaaaaaa!

[Rina]

Finish work, find a tape measure, measure Dex (in an hour somewhere).

The fan creaks, let's see what happens next. Yesterday we even managed to drive the temperature to the desired level. I will fight further.

Rina Thank you, I'll wait. Are there any problems with the temperature regime? It seems that I ran through our site what is called "diagonally" and did not see any special problems with DEX, it turns out I looked. : girl_cray: Damn, I thought for so long whether or not to buy an electric stove, it seems like there is enough gas. Last week I read an article about the dangers of gas combustion products in ovens, well, I think this is a sign, I need to buy an electric one, but then I thought again, and my husband again won’t understand me - I’ve bought a week, I don’t buy a week ...

P.S. Now I looked, and really a lot has been written on Dex new. It's just that I was leaving at that time and was without the Internet, and now I did not go back far and read, it goes in vain

When I set the temperature on the handle, the thermometer shows 40 degrees less than the marking. I know that the adjustment there is inaccurate, so I'll have to play around. When set to maximum (230), the thermometer showed 215 yesterday. I measured everything in an empty oven.

Rina, I'm embarrassed to ask, did you measure the oven or, after my doubts, decided that I had completely changed my mind about buying it?
It seems that I still want to.
And, if possible, two more questions - is the difference noticeably noticeable on the quality of baking, if we compare gas / electricity? And in which store did you buy?
Thank you!

Tanya, sorry, there was more work and I just forgot ... I'm already running ...

the dimensions of the baking sheet are 384 x 315, so we can't talk about any forty centimeters. External dimensions slightly more than 500 mm

Nothing happens ...
Only this is what I think, like in this oven the native baking sheet is small and it is put on the grate that goes into the grooves.
And I wanted to drive my baking sheet into these grooves without any grate, so I need to know the size of the grate, or did I understand something wrong and piled up a garden?

I think the grille has the same dimensions as I gave above.

Got it!
Thanks, I will think

Girls, my microwave is covered, which I used to warm up and defrost, I have read about their harm, in general, I thought about purchasing a mini-oven. people who know, tell me, it is clear that it will not replace the microwave, but how well does it cope with these functions? Are the dishes getting too hot? about as if in a conventional oven to warm? And yet, at home, a small child, the stove will stand on a pedestal, that is, within reach, I read that they are heating up noticeably - how dangerous is it? But in general, I really want such a thing, like there is a good oven, but we are 3 people and it is not necessary to cook too large portions, but electricity is a pity. and, as I understand it, it’s faster in the mini-oven, and sandwiches are so generally cute.

[Verunchik]

Verunchik, welcome to the forum! If the tasks are to warm up food + sandwiches, take roster. They have a small volume (from 5 liters) and capacity. But the dishes, of course, will still be warming up.

thanks for the advice, but mom has a roster - it's too small and simple to take, so that you can bake something. although I am an active user of the multicooker.

If you bake, then the volume will be large, respectively power. Warming up will take a long time, the plate is hot.)) Unfortunately. And you can warm it up in a slow cooker. I've been without a microwave for a year already.

thanks, it means all the same microwave.

A thermal stove will not warm up food in minutes. Here you will have to choose - either convenience or safety for the product. If we are talking only about warming up food for "here and now to eat" (especially since there is a small child), I would take a small microwave. And my children have already grown up, I have been doing without a microwave for at least a year (and maybe more). In its place I put an electric oven. I warm food in a slow cooker or on the stove.

girls, thanks to everyone who answered my question about cravings. It was necessary to feel it from the inside, and I checked it from the outside. I again have a bunch of questions: the instructions say that you cannot turn on an empty stove, how then can you warm it up ?? I have a redber 4290. help me figure out which modes are better for which dishes to cook. (I cooked all my conscious life in a gas oven with an inoperative ter-rum) then my eyes run up ... fried (baking + convection) kebabs seemed a little dry, maybe it was only necessary to cook on frying (lower ten without convection)? maybe someone measured the temperature inside, otherwise I have a feeling that it does not hold out? all many thanks for the answers

can anyone measure the temperature inside, otherwise I have a feeling that it does not hold out?

I measured .. if you scroll through, maybe you will find, the thermometer really showed less, but I stopped paying attention to it and I advise you to adapt to your oven. I cook almost everything at 200C, low or medium level, top / bottom / convection mode. Of course, you can warm up an empty stove.

[lulya pill]

lulya pill, I warm up my same stove empty when required, and no problem. And the first time I "burned" it at a maximum empty for more than 40 minutes. Nothing happened. I cook with a thermometer (curiously) - at first my stove kept on the top + bottom + convection mode the temperature that was set to + 15-20 degrees (convection), now in the same mode it shows very accurately the temperature that is set. I can't say about the modes - I cook almost everything up + down + convection. I didn't make kebabs - I can't say anything. I mainly bake bread (thanks to the forum!), Sweet pastries, porridge in pots and baked poultry in my sleeve.

now, in the same mode, it shows very accurately the temperature that is set.

I also set the temperature as indicated in the recipe ..do not reduce by convection.

please advise baking
Requirements:
temperature 250C
preferably not very hot handle - m. e as safe as possible for children
preferably backlight
preferably hidden heating elements
preferably good build quality and pretty)))
height not higher than 50cm, width not wider than 65cm
the price does not really matter (within reasonable limits, of course)

and it is also advisable to indicate your location in the profile, because they can advise both in Russia, and in Ukraine, and in Belarus, and in Germany, and in the USA ...

Girls help out - my husband drove off to St. Petersburg to buy me a present, if I don't order a specific stove - he will be handed some nasty stuff! He is in the Moscow region now, there is generally Yulmart nearby ...

The stove needs to bake meat, bake pies. I read you for a long time and even chose something, like some kind of Redber, I don't remember now ...

[| Alexandra |]

| Alexandra |, yes, many in this temka have a redber (Redber EO-4290), there are also many owners of Rolsen KW-3025, read here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9411.0 describe Rolsen 3025, and below there is a table with the data of these and other stoves